04/22/08 02:06 - ID#44098

Real LaPlaine - The Scientologist

It's not your beliefs, it is the actions of the freakin' practitioners themselves and their aggressive, obnoxious street mission tactics. I have become increasingly afraid of them, one in particular. In fact I often find myself having to run across the street to avoid them.

I have no idea what the Scientologist's really believe nor do I care. I didn't really look it up until just now when I found

My problem with the group stems specifically from the practitioners at the Church of Scientology Building on Main Street.

They are constantly getting in my face on the way to my work and have harassed me numerous times at my home. That is totally unacceptable behavior from any group of people. They are a plague to my neighborhood and honestly I hope their whole building collapses, taking the congregation with it.

Sorry, it is hard for me to separate my feelings for that group from you as a person. I recognize that is a personalty flaw I have, and I thrive on it. If you were just a practioner I would feel different, because I would probably just feel sorry for you, but the fact that you are a large scale persuader, makes me feel uncomfortable supporting your message with my software.

So yes, please stay away from this site and tell all of your Scumbagtologist friends that they are not welcome here either - not for what they believe in, although I hear it is quite sketchy, but rather for the way they have treated me in my hometown neighborhood. They alone have made it a far less pleasant place than before they arrived. Not to mention the outrageous amount of paper wasted taping up those damn posters on ever light post and window around for the last two years.

I hope estrip makes scientologists feel just as uncomfortable as I feel on that part of main street near your church and that you return to LA.

Paul - I find it interesting that because of my association with Scientology, that you now go from friendly and open, and this site is for anyone, to antagonistic. Do you do that with other people who study other philosophies or practice other religious beliefs? Is this site only for "conventional" beliefs?

Besides, read a book on Scientology. If you are a graduate of university they should have taught you to keep your head open to new thoughts.

And yes, I did head up the entire Volunteer Ministers program at one time. I have friends who also headed up different church around the world - they never had a problem with Scientology - because I also respected their beliefs and their religions.

So my question is this? Is your site now off-limits to me? Let me know and I'll bail now if that's the case and I'll know that the Elmwood district is not all that it is being punched up to be.

Real

Real Laplaine @ 1-800-334-5433 or email atinfocenter@scientology.net.

Real Laplaine
Senior Consultant
Dianetics Information Center
1-800-367-8788
6331 Hollywood Blvd
Los Angeles, California, 90028
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Real Laplaine (Volunteer Minister Program In Charge)

imk2 writes at 05:13:17 04/23/08 - Comment #34261: i have finally been accosted by the scientologists too, and so has faben. seriously, do they think that constantly harassing people in the neighborhood will get them more members?

i was in the middle of a conversation with (e:tinypliny) and this crazy looking dude comes up to me, interrupts our conversation ,doesn't even say excuse me....just walks up and butts into our convo and says "hi" and just stands there glaring at me like he (or i) am crazy.

and i'm like "um....dude....wtf?" after he left, tiny reminded me of how (e:enknot) started screaming at them and wigging out and then i regretted not doing the same.

god, they're so fucking creepy.

stress test my ass.....leave me the fuck alone when i'm walking on the streets of my neighborhood, ok? don't you people see how fucking weird you all appear to be? stop molesting people on the street and come up with a different tactic if you want your recruitment numbers to increase. i doubt your current strategy is working very well.

maybe you should throw in some oral action from tom cruise as an incentive. i'd actually consider joining if that was part of the deal.

jenks writes at 10:08:30 04/22/08 - Comment #34257: omg i'm a little buzzed but these comments are cracking me up. I love you guys.

hodown writes at 09:28:00 04/22/08 - Comment #34255: oh right and the anti drug thing. for reals- zanax is your little yellow friend.

paul writes at 09:02:25 04/22/08 - Comment #34254: Ya, I am not sure if there could be a worse combo for me than a commercial, anti-drug religion with a cat entity.

hodown writes at 08:50:24 04/22/08 - Comment #34252: im making a comment to get closer to 10k or whatever, but in realtion to this post i loved tom cruise so much until he joined the cult known as scientology. any religion that involves cat aliens freaks me the fuck out.

metalpeter writes at 07:07:04 04/22/08 - Comment #34238: The thing that I'm going to say is coming at this with a slightly different view. I'm not defending or attacking anyone so please no one take it this way, on a side note it has been a long time since there has been any (e:strip) drama and I often seem to miss it some how.

The stress test thing really freaks me out and they even have it every year at the same place at the Erie County Fair, and that is deceptive it really is. But lets be honest they are not the only people who do this. Army Recruiters do this all the time and often I won't say lie but don't tell the entire truth and go after kids (poor areas) at malls and say stuff like wow your pretty good at that game I always die on level 15 and then they talk about how they could shoot people for real. Again at the fair the army often has a place to play a shooting simulator. There are people who hand out little bibles at festivals and go door to door trying to convert you to there way of thinking ( 3 different churches)that I can remember. You see this even on some of the political news shows on TV. It is a common practice that these guys really have perfected to an artform. I think when you are passionate it is very easy to go from Come on in and have your questions answered and we can't make you life better to harrasement.

I think that he is trying to sell a book. I think he is trying to convert people. However that being said I think that he has a right to write here. No one has to read his journal. I think that he should be given a chance as long as it isn't spam and he doesn't only write about the book.

On a side note I'm not a Budhist (sorry about the spelling). But one thing that I do like about them expect for the entire Tibet thing as the exception to this. Is that they don't come up to you and tty to tell you there beliefs unless you of course ask. As prof of this I had no idea that there where different kinds of it until (e:libertad) joined the site and I still have no idea what the differences are. Again it is a fine line between sharing ideas and trying to push them off on someone else and I think the cult that they are (christans started out as one to though a long time ago ) over the line the way they try to get people into it. But my point is they are not the only ones who are that way.

paul writes at 06:05:58 04/22/08 - Comment #34232: I was thinking more along the lines of a free pepper spray taste test.

fing writes at 05:02:11 04/22/08 - Comment #34227: Agreed Paul. I hate it how belligerent they are sometimes. I was walking with a coworker last summer and one of them came up and tried to hand us a card. He (my coworker) was on the phone at the time and he just kept talking to him so he finally just said "I am on the phone!!" and we kept walking. I think we should get some estrip.org cards made up and we can talk to them about Estripology. We can show them a free movie or do a free stress test.

hodown writes at 04:28:14 04/22/08 - Comment #34222: Agreed. Scientology is sketch-o-rama. Really aliens who died a long time ago and then their spirits got trapped in volcanoes or some shizz. And I don't like their high pressure sales tactics. And lastly any "religion" that requires you to pay to get closer to their form of a higher being is highly suspect.

paul writes at 04:11:01 04/22/08 - Comment #34218: Thanks all for your feedback.

tiburon1724 writes at 03:57:41 04/22/08 - Comment #34216: Scientologists are trained very well in how to manipulate others. After all, according to them, we are all one. Re-read his post, it's clearly phony. I think it's every month that there is a worldwide protest at Scientology headquarters, including here in Buffalo. They will say things to purposely make the protestors react in an aggressive manor, so they can point the finger and say we are the problem, not them. (passive aggressive behavior at it's max?) NOTHING they do or say can be taken at face value, there is always another agenda. I love the booth at Blvd Mall that says "Free Stress Test" when it's actually a Scientologist recruiting station. If you're not sketchy, why not have it say "Free Scientology Info" instead???

jon writes at 03:54:40 04/22/08 - Comment #34215: Here is just a sample of the beliefs in their CULT, fyi:

"Various writings and recordings of Hubbard claim: that Christ was a myth fabricated by space aliens to deceive Man from realizing his true nature; that Christ was a child-molester; that Blacks are genetically inferior to Whites; and in the 'free personality test' women are scored lower than men." - JDRAKE :::link:::

Actual sound bites of Hubbard concerning some of the above... :::link:::

Also how they deal with crtics...

"Scientology had an official, formal policy, written by L Ron Hubbard, for dealing with critics, which urged filing harassment lawsuits, digging up or making up embarrassing personal problems about critics and then publishing them, trying to get critics fired, picketing their homes, and threatening critics with bodily harm. It stated 'always attack, never defend' and 'the purpose of the lawsuit is to harass, not to win.'"

They are just a CULT, albeit a very well funded one.

libertad writes at 03:48:10 04/22/08 - Comment #34213: I didn't see this persons journal, but I do think that is acceptable that paul does not want to allow the site to be used for the Scientologist agenda. These people take advantage and use people who are desperate or suffering.

drew writes at 03:19:13 04/22/08 - Comment #34211: Three things:

1. Let the record show that, although Paul and I disagree on many (most?) things religious, he has been nothing but hospitable to me.

2. Although I have no love for Scientology, and believe it to be misleading. It is my preference that everything be allowed, save obvious spam. We are obviously smart enough to not be misled.

3. Point 2 doesn't matter so much, because it is not my hard work that makes (e:strip) happen. Paul is the boss in this here land.

brit writes at 03:06:07 04/22/08 - Comment #34209: they go after vulnerable juniors on our campus who just moved away from their families really aggressively.... I agree with you Paul...what they believe is neither here nor there, they recruit like an evil cult

paul writes at 02:47:20 04/22/08 - Comment #34208: I just want to re-iterate - this is not even about the religion - for me, this is really about the dudes on the street annoying me.

lizabeth writes at 02:28:16 04/22/08 - Comment #34207: Ooh man, Scientologists are creepy. I got a weird feeling when I saw L. Ron listed in his post, too.

james writes at 02:26:40 04/22/08 - Comment #34206: Return to LA? Did he even leave?

lilho writes at 02:21:12 04/22/08 - Comment #34205: i don't care if people want to speak their beliefs, but i feel it is totally disrespectful, aggressive and offensive to push your philosophies or religion on anyone.

religion is a personal choice, something that should be for you, and kept sacred in that way. when people start whoring their religion and beliefs out to everyone else, it just seems really wrong.

i agree with you paul.

this site is to connect and talk about buffalo, life events, and anything really. it is not to try and sell anything or convince anyone of anything.

i used various forms of the word, "any", way too much.

paul writes at 02:13:13 04/22/08 - Comment #34204: You don't have to blame all of the Elmwood District for my feelings. I have no idea how the entire district feels about Scientologists.

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