"I've fucking had it" written by Paul on estrip.org

04/18/11 08:38 - ID#54081

I've fucking had it

I joke woke up at 7am to have the "doctor" take my $20, touch my throat and tell me my tongue looks freaking normal. It does not look normal. Then she said it might just be retaining the color of food I have eaten. I had to leave or I was going to kill her.

After a really stressful evening it turned an even prettier orange.

tinypliny writes at 11:51:33 04/20/11 - Comment #61925: HEY! I happen to like this picture-documentation. Back off.

kookcity2000 writes at 11:15:14 04/20/11 - Comment #61924: you can use my tongue for the next six months if you promise to stop posting those gross pics

tinypliny writes at 03:12:28 04/19/11 - Comment #61887: No, you certainly don't have this. I have been reviewing several citations of this article and things don't add up in your case.

tinypliny writes at 02:39:39 04/19/11 - Comment #61885: Please note. Not not.

tinypliny writes at 02:39:17 04/19/11 - Comment #61884: Finally. :::link:::

Please not that I am not saying that this is it. In fact, I am not even sure I should be sharing this with you when I have no basis or even reason for thinking in this direction. Consider it as merely some food for thought about what could possibly be orange...

tinypliny writes at 02:34:11 04/19/11 - Comment #61883: Hmmm... Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon = 4 days. That does not count as several days! Give it some more time...

Stressful? In what way? How do you define stress? (I am really curious now... ) Did you experience any heartburn along with the stress? Did you happen to measure your saliva pH today evening?

I am uploading an article from 1985 that describe a saprophyte being responsible for a "golden orange tongue". I am still searching for proper documentation or even case histories of your (and several other people across the net) particular symptoms... So far, its a really elusive search. Maybe I am not using the accurate scientific keywords.

paul writes at 12:58:44 04/19/11 - Comment #61880: P.S. tiny - I have almost entirely changed my diet for several days now with no effect on the tongue. However, the heart burn is totally gone. I kind of think maybe that was more the green apple, no eating, jamming in food before yoga, eating right before bed thing.

tinypliny writes at 12:32:24 04/19/11 - Comment #61875: You will find this interesting: :::link:::

flacidness writes at 12:25:25 04/19/11 - Comment #61874: I'm so sorry babe. But really how can she say it's normal? And wtf thank you for takin the 20 bitch.....

tinypliny writes at 12:10:54 04/19/11 - Comment #61870: And yikers. I wash every leafy thing like a maniac. Three times or more if I am in an OCD mood. You should do the same even if it is organic or super-pesticide free. You just don't know what's in the soil. Organic just means they didn't use inorganic fertilizer or pesticides (and I sometimes doubt that even). You do realize what the best organic fertilizer is... human or animal excreta with PLENTY of organic organisms and fungi.

tinypliny writes at 12:05:12 04/19/11 - Comment #61869: Tempting. Very tempting! But the logistics of culturing scrapings is a bit more complicated than what we can possibly achieve at home. There are kits out there that can help students culture bacteria etc. at home. See: :::link::: and :::link:::

However, I am not sure that is your objective here. I think you are looking for an accurate diagnostic culture here, to determine what that organism is - if it is fungal or bacterial or whatever or maybe not an organism at all but some chemical reaction. This is so we can determine what is its favoured environment of growth and target measures at depriving it of this environment or maybe understand what exactly it is. With that objective in mind, you would need an absolutely sterile environment to avoid cross-contamination with foreign bacteria or fungi. It's not enough that you have a clean, bleached place. You need an air-controlled cell-culture hood to make absolutely sure that you are introducing no other organism but the organism of interest. Let's say you have this sterile hood from somewhere, the next step is setting up the culture in SEVERAL media - all of which don't come pre-prepared. This is because we don't know what that orange thing will grow best in. For example, they found that the Tuberculosis bacteria grows best in the LJ medium :::link::: after years of experimentation. All these media need to be sterile as well - to prevent contamination.

I could make a few basic media using recipes provided by the lab, but quite honestly I doubt my media making and culturing abilities without supervision - for diagnostic culturing. Many of these media etc. are provided to institutions by scientific companies like Fisher etc. I am not sure if they even supply individuals....

To cut my rambling short, yes it's possible to culture random organisms for fun at home (hey! that's how microbiology started centuries back!). But diagnostic culture is a completely different (sterile) beast that is next to impossible to achieve (with the degree of confidence you need) from a home setup.

I am wondering if you can request a culture from UB or any institutional microbiology lab or even a commercial lab without a prescription/order from a practicing physician... Some infectious disease-focused GPs who also do research can do these cultures in their lab...

Also, if by changing your diet habits, you see an improvement in the orange tongue symptoms, it will show indirectly that the organism (or chemical product) cannot survive in the changed environment of your mouth. In that case, why bother with the culture - when you know how to stop it from coming back?

paul writes at 10:34:24 04/18/11 - Comment #61867: I need a microbiology lab. Can I culture it myself with some investment? Do you know how to do that?

paul writes at 08:37:08 04/18/11 - Comment #61860: I don't wash my organic greens very well. Holy crap. I barely rinse them at all and honestly sometimes they are dirty. Ironically, I believed a little dirt was health. Maybe not then.

enknot writes at 04:37:21 04/18/11 - Comment #61851: BTW: this is why I'm in love with (e:tinypliny)

"I wish I worked in a microbiology lab. I want to take a scraping of that orange stuff and see what it grows..."

enknot writes at 04:36:22 04/18/11 - Comment #61850: but my presentation of this post was heightened by the fact that you and the banner are making the same face... you know, with your lounges out.

leetee writes at 11:10:13 04/18/11 - Comment #61832: maybe you need to stop eating orange food, Paul.

Yeah, not all doctors are good doctors.

I wish i had some advice for you. All i have are sympathies and well wishes!!

tinypliny writes at 10:22:05 04/18/11 - Comment #61826: BTW, I have a question - are you sure you wash your organic greens very well before eating them raw? Soil saprophytes are pretty hardy...

tinypliny writes at 10:20:24 04/18/11 - Comment #61825: I wish I worked in a microbiology lab. I want to take a scraping of that orange stuff and see what it grows...

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Category: weather

04/17/11 06:34 - ID#54074

Snow in mid april

The other day I was telling someone about this video we had taken of it snowing April 19th back in 2003. Well here is snow on the 17th. Its coming down super hard right now. Lets hope it stops.

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Category: orange tongue

04/17/11 02:01 - ID#54072

orange tongue continued

Tomorrow I have a doctors appt. No one seems to be able to figure it out.

Symptoms: orange tongue followed by spots that appear small and pink and grow larger. The spots never have orange.

Doctor thought geographic tongue but I can't find anything connecting geographic tongue to orange tongue.

Eventually the pink areas grow large and the tongue looks like new. Then it stops, several weeks go by and the cycle starts over. The orange never goes away.

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Category: terry

04/17/11 01:34 - ID#54069

Decorated Warrior

(e:terry) was so wrapped up in his warcrafting that I was able to decorate him and take pics without him freaking out.

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Category: dancing

04/17/11 02:00 - ID#54066

East side goodness

We actually parked our car near my work and walked to the cosmopolitan art gallery over the Cherry St bridge. I think I might just walk next time.

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Category: food

04/16/11 07:11 - ID#54063

wagyu beef

I did not by this:
1. Because it is ridiculously expensive.
2. Because I am reducing my protein intake.

But seriously how does it cost $34? What does it taste like to be that expensive?

According to Wikipedia

WagyÅ« (å’Œç‰›) refers to several breeds of cattle genetically predisposed to intense marbling and to producing a high percentage of oleaginous unsaturated fat. The meat from wagyÅ« cattle is known worldwide for its marbling characteristics, increased eating quality through a naturally enhanced flavor, tenderness and juiciness, and thus a high market value.

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Category: weather

04/16/11 06:48 - ID#54062

Shorts weather?

It might be springtime out but I wouldn't say it's shorts weather yet.

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04/16/11 01:53 - ID#54059

Dal with carrot and asparagus

(e:tinypliny) came over last night and made dal. It was really yumny. I feel bad because I made her make it not spicy hot but there is really the only way my body can tolerate it.

paul writes at 04:43:31 04/16/11 - Comment #61799: Hopefully, we don't have to ask her because I will be better by then.

heidi writes at 04:39:09 04/16/11 - Comment #61798: Jealous.

Yeah, yoga gives me heartburn sometimes, too. I try to be really careful about not eating more than some yogurt about 4 hours before class - any food just makes it all kinda digestively uncomfortable. However, having to pay that close attention to food and time makes it less likely that I'll actually accomplish the goal of attending class.

tinypliny writes at 04:16:39 04/16/11 - Comment #61797: Maybe we could ask Erin to focus on heartburn relievers next time...

tinypliny writes at 04:15:13 04/16/11 - Comment #61796: Seems like everything went wrong and came to a head this past Wednesday. I think it's great that you have so many variables that you can eliminate.

tinypliny writes at 04:13:32 04/16/11 - Comment #61795: More interesting stuff: :::link:::
:::link:::

tinypliny writes at 04:02:59 04/16/11 - Comment #61794: Another variable...

paul writes at 03:53:06 04/16/11 - Comment #61793: I realized thqr doing headstands today. WHat if this is it. All of the headstands and flips in the last two weeks.

tinypliny writes at 03:09:34 04/16/11 - Comment #61792: Oh man, I just realized. You did all those headstands during class... That's worse than lying down!

paul writes at 02:57:19 04/16/11 - Comment #61790: I was okay. My tongue is going through its newly typical death to rebirth cycle but I had less heartburn. Could be the not eating before bed or laying down after eating. Or even the snacking throughout the day instead of waiting on large monolithic meals. I guess the not eating all day and then eating 20 minutes before yoga was probably bad that day too.

tinypliny writes at 02:08:47 04/16/11 - Comment #61788: It could be that this dal made it all super-worse? Is that the case?

tinypliny writes at 02:08:24 04/16/11 - Comment #61787: How are you doing today? The diet is kind of interactive so you will need to post updates to decide on the course for the rest of the week.

tinypliny writes at 02:07:33 04/16/11 - Comment #61786: Actually, I could have omitted the red chillies and made it more tolerable. Sorry for cheating. :^) Next time you are not getting ANYTHING remotely hot.

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Category: linwood

04/16/11 12:07 - ID#54058

Historic district tax credits

I wish I waited to get my roof repaired. There was a major tax credit for it this year.

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Category: orange tongue

04/15/11 10:03 - ID#54056

Orange tongue and body PH

So I measured my morning PH as the test strip pocket suggests. Urine 5.75-6.0 , saliva 6.75. I guess I am acidic but according to the packet the healthiest urine is 6.0-6.9 and I was close. The second reading was almost exactly 6.0.

The more intereting/ gross part is that my orange tongue now also includes orange spit. I didn't reaalize till I spit it out to measure the Ph.

I get so frustrated when I read things like the following. I already eat a varied natural foods diet, I don't do drugs or drink, I exercise, I guess I have stress but who doesn't. I've barely ever taken antibiotics in my life, except for like during surgery and I sleep well. Not to mention my gastroenterologist can only schedule me in May 5th at 7:45am. What the frick? I need a new doctor. Its weird, I have money, I have insurance, I have a problem and there is no doctor - again.

by lf08, Jun 20, 2008 07:29PM
I have experienced orange tongue since December 2007. I saw the gastroenterologist and told me it was a yeast infection in my mouth. I was give nDiflucan for about a week. It seemed to go away but it came back as soon as finished this medication. Same the antibiotics. Later I learned that its not a yeast infection. But it definitely has to do with the stomach. It definitley comes from a combination of extremeties like stress, eating poorly, not excersing, and not getting proper sleep and the misuse of antibiotics and over the counter medicines. I have ulcer, hiatal hernia, gastritis, and ulcerative proctoctis. I saw a macrobiologist doctor in February and he was able to tell me my deficiencies. According to him I was lacking oxygen, developing kidney stones, pancreatis (pancreatitis), etc. It all makes sense. Our bodies are not designed to intake chemicals. I completely changed my diet and starting taking probiotics and herbs to heal myself naturally. I have been improving slowly, I feel better and the orange coating is not as dark as before. Definitely take oil of oregano, garlic and mastic gum helps as well as eating organic whole foods. WE NEED TO DETOX OUR BODIES NATURALLY!

Seems there are lot of people with this issue:http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Ear--Nose--Throat/Orange-tongue/show/7117

At a minimum most of the people reporting this seem to agrees the bitter metal taste is terrible.

Maybe an allergy to metal to the metal in my new fake tooth - It seemed to start right after I got it?

hi everyone, i too have orange tongue. I actually got this years ago when i was a kid and had braces, no one could really figure it out, i was sent to specialist after specialist and they eventually decided it was an allergy to the metal in the braces, and took them out.