"The island and the vote? anonoman" written by News on estrip.org

Category: estrip

04/17/10 12:37 - 41ºF - ID#51411

The island and the vote? anonoman

Up until this point I have never deleted anyone because of anything other than posting commercial content, which I never hesitate to do. I am fine with deleting this guy because his postings are harassing which is against the TOS. However, I fear if you guys determine that you want to delete people based on a group vote mentality that everyone will get deleted at some point. I can guarantee at one time or another I have heard from just about every single person how they are so angry about what some other person posted and yet we all made it through because I don't delete people based on content.

This person is different based on the fact that they are not really a member of the community but more like a harasser, so go ahead and post your feelings here about it.

What makes it all so weird is that (e:theli) has not complained about it but maybe he is embarrassed? I have no idea.

paul writes at 11:41:42 04/19/10 - Comment #55856: Thanks for all your feedback. I spoke with the person who I needed to. He is gone.

jacob writes at 10:51:15 04/19/10 - Comment #55855: From a community stand point, something that runs off, or kills members of the community isn't healthy. I'll admit I'm mainly voyeristic, but I still enjoying hanging around and randomly posting. I think it's a shame (e:theli) no longer feels he can.

james writes at 10:03:12 04/17/10 - Comment #55843: I have seen this debate before on other sites. Notions about preserving free speech versus the health of the community boil down to "should we delete trolls or should we let them troll".

Trolls are not worthy of consideration. They do no good for the community and should be removed from the community. Anonoman has not posted anything on this site that was not trolling.

heidi writes at 08:45:56 04/17/10 - Comment #55842: I second (e:libertad)'s and (e:janelle)'s comments. (e:anonoman) is here to bully and harass (e:theli) and so zir use of the site is in violation of the TOS. Us sniping at each other once in a while or being a little mean isn't bullying, it's not using the public space to drive someone else out of it.

metalpeter writes at 06:12:40 04/17/10 - Comment #55840: I have a bit of a problem with him (Her Maybe) being deleted for one reason, and that is we the reader don't know the entire story. What I mean is that yes it seems to me like (e:anonoman) is here just to attack or bother (e:theli) . Yes I do believe (e:theli)'s side of the story but I don't have him as a friend on any other sites and I don't know what happened out side of the web, in other words in real life. So is it really fair to kick (e:anonoman) off the site when maybe something happened that causes this person to do what they are doing (from their Perspective).

What I don't get is why doesn't (e:anonoman) Just write a blog and explain what went on from their side of the story.

I have another issue with Deleting (e:anonoman). If this Person's only reason for joining is to go after (e:theli) won't they Just later join as someone else or take someone's phone and Join or find another way onto the site?

I also Have a fear that if you start here where would it stop? I won't name any names here but I know there have been (e:peeps) that haven't gotten along before (someone took a phone and said stuff on facebook I think) well what if something like that spreads here. What if two people Just can't along and get into it on line would it really be right to have to chose who to kick off or kick them both off what about people who are friends with them.

I don't want to say that (e:anonoman) should stick around but I think in the end deleting him would be a bad idea. This doesn't mean that what he did was right by the way.

uncutsaniflush writes at 06:07:43 04/17/10 - Comment #55839: (e:libertad) - (e:paul) wrote "What makes it all so weird is that (e:theli) has not complained about it but maybe he is embarrassed?" So I figured that if (e:paul) said that (e:theli) hadn't complained that meant that (e:etheli) hasn't complained. I stand corrected.

My oringal point was that if (e:theli) complains about harassment that means that anonoman has violated the TOS. Good Bye anonoman. Nobody needs to vote him/her off the island.

I'll grant your point about the chatter - it is hard to avoid. On the other hand, I have no trouble selectively reading comments.

I think I'll hush now lest I be voted off the island myself.

libertad writes at 05:05:37 04/17/10 - Comment #55836: I would also add that it is impossible not to read what anonoman is writing since they are comments and chatter not actual journals that we can avoid clicking on. This type of behavior can be the worst type of bullying and the most damaging because of the amounts of people who see it.

libertad writes at 05:00:17 04/17/10 - Comment #55835: (e:theli) is complaining and in fact feels he can't even use the website anymore because of the harassment.

"theli writes at 01:57:27 04/16/10 - Comment #55812theliCongrats. I'm taking a hiatus from posting on all online social sites.

Asshole."

"theli writes at 01:30:51 04/16/10 - Comment #55807theliThere is no relationship. Every inch I give turns into a mile. There was never any stability. And my wanting to live my own life is beset by guilt trips of the highest order.

I feel bad for inflicting this upon estrip."

janelle writes at 04:35:35 04/17/10 - Comment #55834: Don't delete because of a group vote, delete because he broke the terms of services. It seems black and white. You know when someone is being snippy and mean in the moment, but this guy is stalking/harassing via your site.

uncutsaniflush writes at 01:59:21 04/17/10 - Comment #55828: I share your feelings on the group vote mentality regarding content. I tend to think that if (e:theli) hasn't complained, the content doesn't rise to the level of harrassment; and thus, it would be inappropriate to delete anonoman. Those that don't like anonoman can choose not to read him/her. Of course, the fact that anonoman doesn't really have any content other than comments and chat is an indication that he/she is not interested in being a member of the community. Another clue to the lack of interest is the name "anonoman" itself. But I don't think that in and of itself is a TOS violation.

I reckon if all the people who don't like anonoman ignore him/her, anonoman would get bored and go away. Problem solved.

jenks writes at 01:54:44 04/17/10 - Comment #55827: Yeah, I vote delete. I see how it's kind of slippery slope. Sure there are/have been people who say things that piss people off- I'm sure we all have. but this guy is almost like a spammer in that he contributes nothing to the community, and is just there to harass someone else. If he has an issue, he should take it up in private- not anonymously in public like a big coward.

libertad writes at 12:50:16 04/17/10 - Comment #55823: I would delete, since the person signed up solely to harass someone. (e:theli) did say something about how he felt bad for bringing this on estrip. I don't think he should feel bad though.

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Category: party

12/28/09 11:10 - 19ºF - ID#50678

New years party 2010

We are having a new year's party after all. 9PM 24 Linwood bring all your friends. Ball drop at midnight - sorry about the late notice. Hope you can make it.

--Paul

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Category: estrip

05/10/09 03:50 - 47ºF - ID#48640

Buffalo News Article I Missed

Somehow I missed this

Buffalo News article that mentioned estrip.

(E:strip):

This is the self-proclaimed "original neighborhood blogging community" of Buffalo - inspired specifically by the Elmwood Village strip.

A fairly sophisticated site, it allows for image, sound and video embedding, as well as a mobile/dial-up site for the blogger who just can't wait until he or she gets home to tell everyone about that squirrel fight in Delaware Park.

Blogging topics on this site are broad, including but not limited to animals (with such delightful posts as "A bird in the hand means poop on the car" and "Chinese death camp for cats") and Food ("Dave don't eat it!" and "Subway. Finger-licking Freedom").

Turns out, the Elmwood strip is a popular hangout in cyberspace, too.

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Category: estrip

03/30/09 09:40 - 32ºF - ID#48236

New estrip - new top info area

Here is just a glimpse of what it will be like in the new estrip when I am done - someday. I really wish I had more time to donate to it, sorry it is going so slowly. Not done with fleshing out the messages yet, but it is more obvious when you have messages showing you the number of new and the number of total messages. Then you can read them inline, by clicking the link.

I only have a few things left:

1. The new mobile site
2. Preferences section
3. Draw replacement
4. quickstart guide
5. help
6. stats
7. convert latest data into new database structure

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Location: Buffalo, NY

Category: estrip

03/20/09 03:36 - 36ºF - ID#48139

Work on new estrip

I decided to go with avatars and titles in the latest entries list. I think for people who are not familiar with the site content it will make more sense than the person's name or the date. The datetime shows when you hover over the title, the user's name by hovering over the pic. Both link to the journal.

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Location: Buffalo, NY

Category: estrip

12/11/08 08:06 - 28ºF - ID#47031

IE Browser stats

On both the Buffalo NFTA Bus schedule site

and on estrip.org it appears that the use of IE6 is dying rapidly. I think Roswell might be the last stronghold. I can't believe we are using such outdated, insecure crap as our browser.

IE 6 is green, IE 7 is in blue ad IE 8 is red

this is only out of the small IE percentage. Firefox alone is now 57% of viewers. On the NFTA site though, IE is 77% of viewers, although, same ratio of IE 6 to IE7

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Category: estrip

12/09/08 11:17 - 47ºF - ID#47012

Mysql 5.1

There was some drama after the upgrade to mysql 5.1 yesterday night. I am not sure what happend. The upgrade seemed to go find and I updated and repaired the tables but then the blogs table crashed in the middle of the night. Its all fine now and has held up since then. Hopefully, it was just a freak thing and I won't have to downgrade.

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Location: Buffalo, NY

Category: mobile

12/06/08 01:39 - 26ºF - ID#46985

Updated the mobile site again

I updated the estrip mobile site

again.

0. Made the buttons way bigger on the iphone, which has enough screen real estate to handle that.
1. Made the login work better on the iphone. There was a glitch before trying to type in your password.
2. Moved the login right to the top of the fron page of the mobile site
3. made a mobile version of the send message, send email link on the users mobile journal pages that leaves you on the mobile site and returns you back to the site when you send a message/email. Previously, it used to regular sites page which sucked for the mobile. The new one give syou feedbakc saying the message was sent
4. Chnaged the message user and email user to text links instead of the postit and email link.
5. Added link to mobile nfta bus and metro schedules at the bottom of the front page

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Location: Buffalo, NY

Category: mobile

11/30/08 12:24 - 35ºF - ID#46891

Mobile Site Updates

I don't have all that much time right now but I decided to do some mobile site updates that make using the mobile site easier now that more of you are using it.

1. You are now presented with the login box, when trying to leave a commit from the mobile site, and not logged in. Thanks (e:fellyconnelly) for catching this. I had no idea what people meant when they were saying comments were not working.

2. The contact links now work. e.g. post it and email link.

3. The search box is more efficient and no longer has a default value. It also has a search button for phones that don't submit with the enter key being pressed in a form field.

4. I added a before/after journals section to the bottom of any mobile journal page that shows the previous and next 5 journals as links by title making it easier to jump around on a mobile phone. I may do the same for the main site at some point in the future.

5. Got rid of useless mobile nav links that were cluttering mobile nav. The TOS link, the defunct WAP site, epad. Limited messages view to last 10 so that it loads better on mobiles.

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Category: estrip

11/10/08 10:43 - 37ºF - ID#46639

IE 6/7 support Question

Does anyone care anymore. If the new estrip was IE8, Firefox, Safari only and IE 6/7 users had to use the mobile site would anyone even care?

news writes at 12:25:42 11/30/08 - Comment #42768: Oh peter, I just saw your comment on the last journal here. No worries, they can still check the site from the mobile site if I drop IE 6/7 support on the main site. You can get to any journals/chat you need to from there.

metalpeter writes at 05:59:27 11/12/08 - Comment #42020: I'm not the one who runs the site, or does the work to maintain it. I think the site should support IE and the reason is that lots of people use it and don't even know about Safari or Firefox. This is often the case of people who use it at work. I don't use it at work. But maybe someone is about to go home and they want to see if anyone wants to meet at a movie or something and then they won't be able to use the site. But where I think the support is more important is for new members. Say I hear about the site and I come here and only have IE. To Join a site I'm not going to try and figure out why things don't work or that there is a mobile site I'll just give up and never come back, and that could be a factor.

jim writes at 11:49:21 11/11/08 - Comment #41970: IE7 Is a lot of people, is IE8 even out yet?

Doesn't affect me though :)

carolinian writes at 11:00:14 11/11/08 - Comment #41968: Sometimes you just say "Let the legacy bastards burn!"

paul writes at 09:51:05 11/11/08 - Comment #41965: IE 8 as is, is pretty awesome. It supports almost all of what you consider standard DOM/javascript. At least enough of everything to make it much easier.

zobar writes at 09:05:43 11/11/08 - Comment #41962: Please say that IE8 is actually an improvement over IE6. Every day I'm finding new reasons to be disappointed with IE7.

Just two days ago I found out that IE6 doesn't support <option disabled>, and that IE7 never bothered to address the issue - after spending hours writing code that relies on it.

Sometimes I seriously believe that the Internet Explorer team is hindering global progress. How many millions of billable man-hours have been wasted trying to make their crappy browser work?

- Z

imk2 writes at 08:53:58 11/11/08 - Comment #41961: you could use it at work janelle, you'd just use the mobile site. if you click on mobile now, you can see what it would look like.

janelle writes at 07:37:32 11/11/08 - Comment #41960: <Gasp> Then I can't use it at work, I don't think. What will I do all day?

theecarey writes at 11:47:08 11/10/08 - Comment #41958: Whatever you want to do. I use Firefox and only rarely ever IE.

tinypliny writes at 11:46:25 11/10/08 - Comment #41957: Heh, I installed firefox even at work (without admin rights or authorization). The "official" IE-6 made my life a hell with no tabs and 40+ windows at times. It was a question of mental health.

tiburon1724 writes at 11:38:40 11/10/08 - Comment #41955: nope, haven't used IE in years.

james writes at 11:34:46 11/10/08 - Comment #41954: I think the internet needs to stop catering to outdated IE versions. Bring the hammer down Paul!

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