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Football Homosexuality on Glee

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Now some might say that liking Glee makes you Queer. Or I've even heard the term of fag for people who love Broadway musicals but it was used in a good way not a bad way. Sometimes Glee is so great.

Now they deal with the issues of being different, being picked on and Homosexuality on the show.. One of the most recent ones is there is this football player who picks on the one openly gay kid and not in the nice way. So he stands up to the guy finally and the end the hater kisses him. Yeah that was on last weeks show. But there was a tie in about if he tells anyone that he will kill him and at one point he winks at him also....

What I don't think the show is going to talk about is the fact that Homosexuality is often something people can't admit to for many reasons. But one of them is because you lose who you are and what you love. See even if this character new he was gay (and not repressing it) and loved the fact that he was. He could never come out cause the day that he did, bye bye football. Anyone (say a dad) who had football dreams for him would be hurt as well. Why would football be over for him (not that I ever played in school)? It makes a non sexual thing sexual. Tackles in the mind become grouping. Lets not even get into the locker room and showers and all the awkwardness. Now some might say this is silly why should people stay hidden because of haters. It isn't really about haters though but it is some. This is the same reason why male teams don't want women on the team and if they do some how make it, get a different changing room.....

But that takes me onto a different issue. Women and reporters and camera men in locker rooms. Sorry it shouldn't be allowed. The Locker room is a place for the team. Where people change and get ready and no Cameras or women should be there. What there Should be though is A media room that players and coaches can go into and get treatments if they want to and do interviews....

How many girls would change if they thought a boy was watching through a peep hole. Well that is what it would be like if someone came out when they played football. Yes some people wouldn't care but some would not want that person looking at there stuff. Also how about when the o line holds hands or are neck to neck in the huddle or snap towels now all that all boys stuff boys being boys loses what it is because of the assumption of everyone being straight.....

There really is no way of changing this.... But what really causes this is in our society Gender roles are so strong. Boys do this and girls do that.....

There was this prowrestler I liked Named Chris Cannon . He was kinda a mid level wrestler. AFter WWE bought WCW he kinda went no where. Some Time he came out publicly and not sure how high he would have climbed but it sure derailed any chance he had... It is to bad. As Many Wrestlers he died at a young age. I'm sure it is because he came out and it killed his chances. Look at how wrestlers dress and the close body contact how could that work knowing someone is gay......

This is tragic that this is how things are but that is how things are. It is a real issue and no NFL player has ever come out during their playing time. In Wrestling yes there have been charcters that hint at it, but that is just a charcter a way to mess with the other persons mind but to really be gay is different.......

My Point is that often times because of how Society Is (not just certain people) there are reasons people can't come out or admit to what they really are because it would destroy there lives and it isn't only from hate.... This is a real issue that I don't have the answers to.....
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  1. tinypliny ·

    I think you have raised this point before in the context of "don't ask, don't tell" in the military. You make a point that it is tough to admit one's sexuality partly because one is engaged in activities at work/play that involve close contact/nudity.

    CPR involves close contact. Would you refuse to take CPR from a person of the same sex if they admitted that they were gay? I think the problem is very artificial. It is unfair to assume that there is a heightened potential for sexuality in these circumstances - when you have no idea what it is like to be gay yourself.

    The point I want to make is that not all close contact means sexual arousal. Think about it. If you were required to be in close contact with a woman at work or at contact sports - any woman, would you necessarily be attracted to her? I don't think it is likely. It is the same for gay people as well. Thinking that it is somehow different for them and they will be attracted in all instances of close contact is an assumption that heterosexuals need to stop making.
  2. metalpeter ·

    I would not refuse it. But that being If I could refuse It I wouldn't need it but I agree with your point. But there are people who don't want blood (who need it) from people who are gay... Just like some people don't want blood from blacks and in some cases claim they would rather die... Reality is that they wouldn't really choose to die they just want blood from people they think they have the same moral code as.... But maybe they really would rather die....

    Here is my thing about Don't ask Don't tell is... Should People who are gay serve yes! Should they have to lie about it no! But what I think gets lost is that Gay people aren't the only ones who have rights. Me personaly if the best snipper is also blowing the general I don't care if general is a girl or a guy. But that being said there are people who aren't comfortable around someone they Know is gay and some people it takes them over physicaly....

    That being said. The Army is supposed to break you down and take who you are in the old world one person. Then retrain you to be a killing michine. Oh yeah and they are also supposed to do this in a way so that when your time is up and you go home you don't go crazy and you know you are out of the war zone... The Point is if they could do this like how they are supposed to, then everyone could get along and gay or black or looking like the enemy wouldn't be a problem.

    In Terms of girls in sports. I can say I have only competed with them on a team of mine never against them. And in my case them being on the team didn't make them any less hot... Now for me If I'm wrestling a guy I want to win and a girl I still want to win but when her crocth is in my face it is an entirly different thng...

    I do agree with you that people need to stop making that assumption. But I don't see that goin away any time soon. See guys assume a lot of stuff, like that girls want to see our dicks and that they want to do dirty web chats and stuff. We all think that hot chick at the bar with the big tits wants to blow us... So we assume that all gays want us thinking we might go that way, guessing a few might make that mistake. See from a logic perspective it makes sense that how does someone who is gay find someone who is gay, well in that process they must go up to men and some of them won't be gay. See it makes sense in a way. Like if I go to a bar and decide to hit on ladies they all will turn me down and a few will because they like women. Well how do women find other women with out going up to them (I know they go to Roxy's or have a meet up group or something) but somewhere along the lines they must get women who aren't into girls. But where the problem comes in is the next step thinking that "Sorry Even though I'm in a gay bar (ha kiding) I'm not into guys". Well people think that no isn't no to someone who is gay and that is an insult...

    Part of my point is that it is a complex issue and I do hope the show goes into it a bit more, more about how if the football player came out it would ruin his life and how it really shouldn't be but is that way...
  3. tinypliny ·

    Your illustrating using a bar example is all well and good, @metalpeter, but we are talking work situations here. I don't see anyone hitting on anyone at work unless there is a strong mutually acknowledged attraction there!

    The assumption that gay people are overtly sexual is even more annoying because somehow it seems to imply that they have the potential to be less than professional in a work situation. That is why homophobia = racism = every evil little prejudice that has wracked humanity. Believe it or not, we are still struggling against racism in this country and particularly in healthcare.

    So it saddens me that we have another sort of internalized racism rearing its ugly little head in the form of homophobia. I am especially saddened by it in the case of India - where politicians and other insular bigots who made the constitution and the laws are SO SO SO brainless and dimwitted that homosexuality is actually still classified as illegal according to the Indian Penal Code. I don't think anyone ever was or ever will be arrested for homosexual tendencies, but the fact is we are not a society that likes to be honest - and this fact irks me so much. :/
  4. metalpeter ·

    Well at work people do flirt and joke around sexualy but there really isn't touching or at least not anyplace I've ever been, but I have heard of men touching women and vise versa where it causes problems....

    I think one of the issues with the army is that when you are at war or stationed someplace you often work and live in the same place or with others. So say two people don't get along who share barracks or a bunk on a ship (oh wait I forgot people not in the navy thinks everyone in the navy is gay, or at least that is how army used to bash the navy). Well that is a problem a big problem.

    The Military is slow to change as it should be. You can't have an aramy changing cause something is new and then finding ou it is a flash in the pan as they say. But the down side is that the military should be able to make it so most people can get along. I'm not saying gay seperation. But really not just on sexuality.

    I had another point that I lost somewhere.....

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