Category: philosophy
02/11/10 07:36 - 26ºF - ID#50999
Broken Homes Aren't ok
So as some may know I'm an Uncle. I see my niece some but not tons. I'm sure it is a lot more then some and a lot less then some other uncles. But every time I do see her i feel a sadness, not a deep sadness like I want to cry but just a general sadness. The reason for that is that I know that I'm seeing her for the wrong reason. It isn't like I'm watching her for hours or anything like that. It is because the the Baby's mother and father aren't together. For those that know me you may get that I'm very complex and complicated and also very simple in some ways. What I mean is that some things I find are simple and they should be that way don't go and make things complex that don't need to be. Most of the time I see her if they where together their would be no need for me to see her.
I know everyone is a little bit fucked up. But I'm sorry A one parent house hold fucks kids up. That going back and forth, and living in two places. Having different rules and maybe different parenting styles. All of that fucks kids up. I know in this generation that is thought to be ok and that kids will be fine, well guess what that is wrong they won't be. Kids need stability. But what they also need is to have an example set of what family is, what commitment is. What Sacrifice is. Believe me, I don't know how but kids pick up on all that stuff, you don't need a degree to know that.
That I know of there are 2 people in my family who had a relationship, then had a kid, then kept the relationship, then that ended. I don't need to know the details to tell you why those ended. Someone or both people thought that their own Happiness was more important then the welfare of their child. I'm sorry but Fuck You. Once you have a child what is good for you is second to the kid. He didn't ask to be born, he didn't have a choice, he is innocent. You have a responsibility to him/her to what what is best (not what makes the child happy, don't get me started on that bullshit idea, Oh I want him to be happy, or I want to be his best friend) for them, I get and know that relationships are hard and kid makes them tougher. But every step of the way their was a choice to have sex, what to do about the baby, if you where going to stay together, then you make all the choices and when things get tough you give up and only think about your self. Well fuck you and what you want you have a kid, you are no longer a kid you are now the adult and the parent and it is time to act like. ARGH I' m so pissed.
I get that there are cases where two people can't get along and all the fighting or maybe throwing things is worse for the kid, in that case that is ok. But then if that was the case you should have broken up before the kid not after it. I get that sometimes the love ends and people fall in love with other people, but still your kid needs to be priority #1.
This is one of the reasons I'm glad I'm not out trying to met people in bars. On a side note will I ever met anyone on okcupid who I didn't all ready know (Dana, Carey , Heidi and someone else). Well it wouldn't matter really since I don't catch anyone's eyes in straight or Gay Bars (that was a good time hanging out with all those (e:peeps)). But see at least with a one night stand if something goes wrong like a condom breaks or something, it isn't that commitment issue. You where both their to have sex, there was no intended child, their was no relationship you where both getting off and it was about your self for both of you.
I think I'm starting to get those Crazy Christians. You know the ones with the big banners who yell about sin. I'm not saying I agree with how they give the message. No one wants to hear that when they are at a downtown concert. But you know what they have a point. Think of it this way. If I'm in a relationship with someone commitment to them is a big part of that. If I don't have enough of a commitment (might be wrong word) to that person to wait to have sex until Marriage . Then How could I have any commitment to that person after we have sex. If someone doesn't have the patience to wait till marriage why would they have patience enough to stick around after you have a child.
I have been good friends with people who had multiple kids by different fathers and it is so sad. I didn't think it was then. But my point of view was a little bit different. I can't imagine what it is like for kids to have their mother, and then there is a boy friend. Kids like or don't like that one and it lasts for some time maybe even a few years and then the relationship runs it course and ends, and mom is ok but then for the kids it is a new boyfriend. I'm sorry it is just fucked up. Don't take this the wrong way I don't dislike all the people I have known who have done this, but thinking back it is fucked up.
Well I have no idea if I expressed what I really wanted to but at least it is out there now., and I got it off my chest. I didn't even touch on how parents bad mouth the other one, or how sometimes in divorces or splits each parent tries to out do the other one with better and bigger gifts, that must mess up kids pretty bad to.....
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02/10/10 06:05 - 27ºF - ID#50994
1-5 go the bandits from Rock
I like those New Out Fits the Bandettes have, well I assume they are new.
Congrats for getting to the bottom!!!!!
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Category: holiday
02/10/10 05:58 - 27ºF - ID#50993
V-day what to do?
Maybe On Sunday I'll watch some movies or maybe I'll go to the movies and out to dinner by myself on Saturday. I want to see that From Paris with love and there are other movies out I would like to see. March 5th Alice In Wonderland comes out, oh my awesome it looks amazing. I don't know if I even remember the original maybe I should look into finding that. I kinda want to see something violent Maybe I should buy the other Kill bill and watch those back to back. In some form I need to buy myself a huge box of Chocolate or a small one. But it is so expensive for how much it is. I don't know I'll figure something out and maybe I'll find something violent. That reminds me the new Robin Hood with Russell Crowe looks amazing. If I had it on DVD True Blood would make a good Marathon. I do want to watch something good and violent wish I could find some great animee with naked hot chicks killing monsters with swords or something like that, that would be good. I'm not sure but I will try to have fun somehow.
Not going to go to a strip club. I do want to check out that Tiffany's cabaret. It would be fun to find some fun out of the back of art voice but I won't be doing that. Hey even if I can find some kind of olympic sports i like say luge or Bobsliegh not sure I need to find something fun though.............
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Category: nfl
02/07/10 10:12 - ID#50979
More Pre then Game
I know I bash E! for this but they do this same super early pre game show thing to on the award shows. I have seen that they had a 2-3 hr red carpet and then a preshow before that. Then again for some of the awards Fashion TV had stuff on at the same time. Than after the awards they have a post show. The post show makes sense so you can recap and show people what they looked like getting the award. Maybe I need to stop bashing E! because the more I think about it their preshow is like the NFL. On their show they interview people and see what they are wearing but if these people don't win you won't really see them.
Today the 1st preshow starts at noon. Yes I will be watching it. Not sure what road to the superbowl is. But hey it should be good. Later on is the All Iron Team. Hey if Madden can have one why not Phil Sims. By the time that the game starts I will have seen more pregame then I will game even if it was the first game to go to Over Time. Yes and as bizarre as that sounds it is but it isn't really. I do want to ad that I have seen some pretty interesting stuff in the past before superbowls . Some of it was about players. Some it where ads that didn't show again during the game. Some of it was entertainment.
I haven't been to a Bills game in a long time. The one thing I can remember though is Tailgating. Everyone does their own thing in their own way. This is different in Different cities as well. My impression was that there where people who where their hours before us. I have heard that some people get there the night before or maybe it is more like very early morning, I guessing though that they wait for the sun to come up. I have even heard that some people go to just tailgate and don't even have tickets, now that is a party and watch the game on a TV outside the stadium. That is the same Mentality that goes on in all the pregame stuff. Just wanted to ad that this doesn't only happen for football It happens at concerts as well. So my end point is Enjoy the game, enjoy the event and hopefully the game will be better then the pregame stuff but it won't be longer then it. Oh yeah and if the team you want loses show some class and watch the other team interviewed.
I feel as if I'm leaving something out but not sure what else I could really say other then the Super Bowl started out as a game and now it is an all day event hope everyone enjoys it. Hey if football isn't your thing and you are at the party for the party enjoy that to cause it could be better then the game.
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02/02/10 09:19 - 23ºF - ID#50957
Bandits Sat. Part 2
Couple of things I have to admit that I both like and dislike the Swarm Jerseys . I like what I think is a dragon fly but I don't get the lines that match the shorts. I'm not a fan of theirs and I like the bandits, and I love the Bandits 3rd Jersey and yes I have one if you haven't seen a picture of me in one. I will admit it is only one win and the bandits have to do better then they have been but at least it is a start and if they win Sat. they continue the fight up.
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01/31/10 12:00 - 17ºF - ID#50946
Religious Saturday (Legion,Church,Bandit
Well so then it was off to the movies but there is two pictures I have to share first from the elmwood area. If this is your bike that has to suck. But also this is a symbol of something but not sure what it is a symbol of draw your own meaning from it, I know I found it interesting.
Not sure why there are 3 pictures when I only uploaded 2 but once this is published maybe it will make sense.
So the next thing was onto the movies. I went to see legion. I liked it. If you haven't seen the preview it is about God decides to wipe out humans again but one Angel Has faith in one person so he doesn't take the order from god to kill this child and he helps fight off the angel and army trying to kill the unborn baby. I thought it was pretty good. Now I don't know how people of the faith and the pope and the vatican feel about this movie. Yes it is an action movie but I think even with all the killing they would like it. The reason is that there is some stuff about Faith and Mercy and my general sense is that it isn't a movie they would bash but I could be wrong. I know I liked it.
So after the movie I had a few minutes so I tried to eat at Wendy's I love there food but they where so slow that it didn't happen. Here are some pictures from the way home on the bus.
Some might ask how is a bandits game Religious well it isn't but they do share some things. The one I mean is Faith. I don't mean the preying before or after games like in football. I do think that is a nice thing to see when players who just fought as enemies go and prey together. I also don't mean when people prey for their team to win. What I mean is that assuming your team is good or at least has some good players you have faith (well sometimes just like that other faith) that they will win. Yes some of it is hope also (but if barrack doesn't do what he said he will he will kill hope since that is what he ran on). But when a game is close you have faith that your team will win. There is no prof that they will and on side's fans wind up being on the wrong side but it is faith no less. I know this fits better at a football game where one team is driving and those fans have faith that they will score and win and the other fans have faith that the defense will stop them. But it is the same thing. Well it is a miracle the bandits won, ok not really but they did win.
Time to go Watch Winter X games so I'm out of time Hoping to make a Badits post and call it part two or maybe just do all the Bandettes not sure what the peterazzi will do yet. Oh yeah I dropped the 3rd person my english skills aren't good enough to do it convicingly so..................
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01/29/10 06:53 - 13ºF - ID#50934
Two Sides of snow Humbling
I work out near the Thruway Mall well now it is the plaza. I didn't want to chance walking in the street. Hey them cars and trucks move fast and who knows how the ground. That snow on harlem was deep and that sure felt like one long as walk, I was pretty tired out by it.
That snow your feet goes down into is a lot of work to walk in it is really tough. For those that don't know at work I pick orders some times people might call it pick and pack or order selecting. So I do a lot of walking and picking up of boxes all day long. So I assume that I'm in good shape and in some ways I am. But in terms of the kind of shape where you have to like run 3 blocks, 1 mile or maybe 7 no way so it sure was an eye opener.
That brings me to a point that I have made before and so have others. Just because you are thin doesn't mean you are in good shape. People assume this all the time. Just like there are people who are overweight and and in good shape, quick example is Offensive/defense line football players . I know I eat a lot of crap but am still thin but some people eat healthy and all ways put on weight so people should assume so much.
This leads me into my next point. There is all this debate over the health care system. Some people don't want to pay for illegals some don't want to pay for abortions some thing a government plan will lead to all kinds of problems. But again as is true many times in this country we are fighting the health care fight backwards.
Insurance Companies want to make money and the more the better. You pay them so that if you get sick you are covered. But most people get really sick or are sick a lot or you are healthy and so you have low cost. But what if you could get a high % of those sick people well or atleast much better. Well then that would help keep costs down and profits up and then there would be enough money for everyone to have some kind of health care.
How you do this is tough people don't want to change and not in this country what you do is improve the health of the food. Yes fast food is bad for you and even some of the stuff that is supposed to be good for you has dies and chemicals and all kinds of stuff in it. Think about anything diet or lite. For it to taste the same how do they do that, well they use some chemical. That has to be worse for you then sugar.
I'll use my self as an example. Part of the problem is that in America we eat food for enjoyment. I won't say all the time but..... Some people won't eat left overs. When you go to a movie you have to get snacks same is true at sporting events, well for some it is only beer but same thing. I don't do the beer thing but during a football game I have to have something to do or I don't know what to do with my self, my hands have to do something, that is part of watching the game.
I don't know how to get people to eat better, it is a slow process and I know it wouldn't work on me. I'm sorry I have to enjoy what I'm eating.
There should also be some way that encourages exercise. I'm not saying go run 5 miles, at some point the impact will do damage but maybe non impact or low impact stuff. This would also help the country get healthier. Hey maybe the first step is using the wii for kids who sit around and eat and play video games all day.
The point is that there every year in every city is some guy or multiple guys who go out and shovel and don't know how much work it is and cause them selves to have a heart attack, but if these people where in good cardovascular shape they would still be alive.
Back to the snow as I left it was blowing and it was hard to see and that wasn't fun. Later in the day I read Mike's post about the Blizzard of 77' it was a good post and I wish I had time to post this yesterday. It was a fitting day yesterday for the anniversary . Again walking was more of a work out then I needed and man it was cold and took forever to warm up. I'm now tired of the snow and cold. If I skied I would love it. I have to venture out on saturday that should be interesting.
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01/25/10 07:08 - 33ºF - ID#50910
Taxes?
The First thought is to go out and buy a nice computer with lots of memory. Hey that way I could be online and upload and download pictures as I watch stuff on TV. Plus it would give me more time to do other photo stuff and maybe even play some of those games on myspace and facebook.
But then there is the Idea of traveling. I don't mean like cross country plane tickets are a lot and going through check points is a pain. There is no passport so going to Toronto is out, I've heard Montreal is amazing but isn't it a bit far again no passport. I would love to take a train up to NYC and do the explore time square, go see the statue of liberty, and maybe Go to some broadway or off broadway play or Musical, Not sure if that Rock Music one is still around and I heard there is some greenday one that would be amazing. I could also just do the go there for a day so I could say I'm been there that kind of thing. I would also like to visit Pittsburgh. I'm not a Pirates Fan but I could take in a game. What I really would love to do is go to a penguins game there, but that won't happen. I have never been to boston not sure what there is to do there but is that where they turn the waterway green for st. Patrick's day? There is all ways a redsox game. I also want to go see Chicago. Do they still have all the gangs like they did years ago? Don't want to see that part but would love to see a Blackhawks or White sox game and I do want to take pictures at Millennium Park. Of course any of these trips would expand the picture taking of the peterazzi and would be fun also.
Then there is another part of me that says spend the money on storage stuff and all the picture frames for posters you have or at least a bunch of them.
There is another part that says that money would come in good for if the sabres make the playoffs, the peterazzi has never gone to the playoffs.
There is another part that says hey there are some things you might want to try, that the back of art-voice is good for...........
Then there is the TV, movies and sports side that say dude get a Blue Ray player and a medium size 1080p HD TV and then get a HD DVR box from Time Warner. But then the downside is they would need to hook up another line I think, not sure about that really.
Then there is a small part and this is very small that thinks, dude do you really need the money donate some of it to someone who does need the money. I don't see that happening.
The other option is that there are all kinds of festivals and concerts during the summer and other months and it can go into the bank so I'll have money for those events. Ah who knows.
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Category: movies
01/23/10 08:51 - 34ºF - ID#50896
Religious Movies?
The First Movie I saw was Avatar 3D. With out giving anything away I can now see why the vatican got upset by it. I'm not saying that they should have but they are so sensitive when diety stuff that isn't their version is in a movie. I will admit that is a part of the movie I never saw coming and that was fine. Story wise yes it an idea that has happened in the past in histroy and that has been in other movies as well, but that doesn't make it a bad movie at all. I know I liked it. The one odd thing is maybe it is just because I have seen so many movies there where parts that reminded me of other movies those movies are Braveheart, Lord Of The Rings, Earagon, and starwars. Now where things got interesting was the effects. If you watched any thing on Fox you saw a preview and so you know what the effects look like, and they where pretty amazing. I can't really speak on the 3D aspect since I don't have the non 3D version to compare it to. At the end of the movie I did have a slight head ache and I think it was from the 3D. But the thing is again this isn't the kind of 3D from the old days. Nothing was filmed in a way so it was coming at you that was kinda the same with UP. That Being said the Previews for "Alice in Wonderland" look like that won't be the case. Yes in the old days when one saw a 3D movie things leaving the screen was the entire point. But that being said I never did see The Final Destination 3D. It was pretty cool to look at and I had a good time so that is all that matters.
I wasn't sure what my second movie was going to be. I wanted to see Daybreakers but knew with only one showing the timing would be tough. I got out to late to see Legion but not to late to see "The Book of Eli" hey post appoclytic movies are allways fun. That reminds me for those that haven't seen it Zombieland comes out on DVD early Feb, 2nd I think that is a great and funny movie. This I knew was going to have to do with faith, from the previews you see it is some kind of book with a cross. Action wise I liked it. Story wise I liked it. I like how he wasn't looking for trouble , it came to find him. The only tough part is getting use to Mila Kunis being a serious actress I'm so use to her being Meg on family guy and Jackie on That 70's show. But that shows how good she is since those two people are so opposite, ok so she just does the voice but still. I think she did a good job i had a good time. I wonder if this movie will get certain faith people upset. I can see how some of it could but some of it is so positive towards faith also.
I'm hoping to have time to go see some movies next weekend but I doubt it will happen on like thurs. or Friday Winter X Games start, I'm pretty sure and I have a Bandits game and is the probowl next weekend also. If so that is another post on its own, argh.
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01/22/10 08:45 - 29ºF - ID#50887
Taught Vs. Learning on line debate
So I admit that I'm guessing this will sound better in my head then on the web, often thoughts do. One thing the Web is great for is political debate. Hey who doesn't like to get into these debates they can often be fun. Religious debates can get pretty interesting also. That being said there is really no reason for these debates. The fact is that most people's minds and ideas aren't going to change based on something that is said. In issues that are only cultural maybe they will change but that is unlikely. The reason for this is that the majority of everyone's opinion is already set. They feel something and use facts that they know to back up their own Ideas. It should be the other way that they look at all the facts and then use that as how to form their opinions but it isn't.
Question?
Why do you Believe in the god that you do?
Why do you think that some things are right and others are wrong?
Why do you have certain stereotypes either good or back about others?
Why do you view the world the way in you do?
Answer:
Every thing you believe you where taught or learned on your own or based on things that happened but most things you where taught in some way.
The Best example is belief in God. I'm not bashing god here. If you prey to Mecca or won't eat a cow because it is Sacred the majority of the time it is because that is what your Parents or family taught you. If your family takes you to a Southern Baptist Church you are a Southern Baptist. It isn't like you can go "Mom lets go to the Anglican Church up the road and see how they think". Most kids wouldn't think of it. Yes this isn't true all ways in multi faith families but that is more about what you learn and currently I'm writing about be taught. As one grows up they are taught the ideas of the church or lack there of that they go to. If the family watches football and says stuff like Why is Warner preying ... Then Kids are taught of the lack of god or at least the lack of Warner's Good.
Morals are not only taught through Faith. Most People wind up having the same Political outlook as the people who raise them. As adults or even as Babies having Babies you pass your ideas onto your kids. I don't have a good example for this really. The one I will use is how one treats others is a big factor. If someone in front of you drops their wallet the next thing you do will teach the kid different things. If you yell sir you dropped your wallet, you teach them honesty and looking out for others. Now if you pick up the Wallet and take a couple dollars as a reward for your self, then you are teaching them that it is ok to help people if it also helps you. Then if you do some version where you keep the contents and don't tell the person at all you show them that it is ok to get over on others, or that steeling is ok. What is even worse is if you take the credit card and then you both go shopping on some else's money and max it out or empty the bank account.
In Terms of stereotypes I don't only mean racial stereotypes. Yes those are the ones that most people think of. But those extended to more then just race , gender, sex, sexual orientation , Religious beliefs, national origin, how someone looks and even how they talk. All kinds of people teach these and they are very common in families. There are so many I don't even know where to start. Some comments are so small that you don't even notice them yourself. If someone thinks they got ripped off they go "Oh They Jewed Me". There are so many examples of these but the point is that these stereotypes are taught in little ways and big ways and so most kids wind up thinking like how their parents think.
I will admit Political views are more complex and it is tough to say how parents out look on life effects their kids. Again though I say parents but it is more then just them who teaches Kids what to think. For people who protest and take their kids to them as well that we can agree shapes how there kids think. I won't go as far as saying Parents brain wash their kids. But through daily interaction ok so maybe for some once a week, but the point is still the same. Kids learn so much when they are young and take in a lot so they get the same beliefs as there parents and this was true of the kids parents also. That is why things like racism stay around for so long. I also think that what stereotypes (again both good and bad) tie in and intertwine with ones political views. The best example I can think of is that if you have stereotypes about what it is like to be gay, you are more likely to think gay marriage is wrong.
I Admit one thing about a blog is you never know if anyone is really reading it or not. But for anyone who is this is where my thoughts I think get more interesting but maybe that is Just me. Remember I said taught vs. learned. There is a big difference. I will use school as the example to start this off, not sure where it will go. On a side note a bit any of you who went to high school with me remember how bad I was in English I can't believe I write blogs back then I would have never believed it. That makes the perfect example. Yes my grammar is still bad I have no idea why all those green lines show up. everyone goes to class is taught by a teacher. But just because you are taught stuff doesn't mean you learn it. If you did then every kid would get a 100% or an A+ in every class. Hey How would a College decide who to pick, HA. Different people learn differently. Some people can go to class and never open a book and remember it. But some people don't learn by hearing they learn by reading or by writing things out in notes. Not only do people learn differently in school but this is true in life as well.
It is really scary how much people can learn in school and I don't mean just in high School I mean at all levels. Often this things that are learned at school conflict with what home and the world teach you and that is where things get really interesting. I can admit I don't really know how ones mind decides what things are the truth, I would tend to think that what you learn out in world is the strongest. You live it and you know it and it is real, it isn't just an idea. But in terms of ideas I'm not sure how that works. Well that is what is coming up next.
I'll use the racial stereotypes as an example. Lets say at home you hear N this and N that. I think we all know what N means. But then you get to College or a big high school and those people are "The Cool Kids" They have the parties and they not what you where taught at home. There is this conflict between what you where taught and what school is teaching you so over time you learn what the truth is to you. Sometimes it happens the other way around. Now maybe after you leave school and get out into the world you get a job or what ever and meet more people and at that point you might learn some other version of what people are like. Again what happens to you sometimes causes you to learn that what you thought before was correct and sometimes that it was wrong.
This is not only true for racial stereotypes, It is true for many stereotypes. I guess the best example I can use is homosexuality. I won't use the example of the girl who finds out in College she also likes to have fun with girls when she is drunk. But before I do that, I will admit I have no idea what it is like to be gay and I can't even imagine what it is like. That being said I don't remember what my views on it was when I was young. But when kids are young they call each other fags and stuff like that. So I'm guessing for a lot of people you have this negative view of it. I wasn't one of the people who thought it is a sin being gay means you are going to hell. But there are people like that or people who think yuck. Yes to me it does still seem weird. But at least for me once you meet people who are gay, you see they really are no different then you. It isn't like I heard "oh can I........" but maybe for some people that happened and that is why they don't get along with them. I think that if more people who don't like homosexuals knew some they would learn that they are just like them. I know I learned that. I don't know as I ever thought they where any different or if I even really knew what it was.
I admit I'm out of practice of writing long things so my mind is run out of examples. But learning from the world is not all ways how people learn. Yes some times they learn things from the people who bring them up based on what those people do. The Best example I can give isn't really concrete but hopefully people will get it (assuming anyone is even reading this). Sometimes parents lead a life in a way that the kids find is screw up or makes no sense. In this case the messages that are taught often get learned to be the other way by the kids.
One example would be if you teach your kid that hardwork is how to live ones life. I think it is. At work you need to give it your all. But if the parent(s) is working so much that the kid never sees them, they may get the idea that screw this when I have a kid I want to spend time with them. One idea that is close to this is work hard then party harder. Hey you work hard then come home and grab a bottle kid is going to learn one of two things. Dad worked his ass off so now he can relax (then you where taught that) or the kid is going to learn from seeing that isn't a good way to live that, that is a bad idea. I'm not going to factor in that people wind up doing later in life what they know that would be a different discussion but it does kinda tie in here. For example kids who are beat and hate it wind up beating their kids often because that was what they know. But some learn that isn't the way to go. This is very true with women who keep dating abusive men. It isn't that they like it, but it is what they know. That is really a different topic.
I lost my train of thought a bit. But what I will close with is feel free to add your ideas to this. In other words add a comment or two. I do think that people are taught things and also learn things through life. But that what is learned is part of what is taught even when it is in conflict. Once someone has an idea on a certain subject then that is what they think and unless life shows them something different then that idea will never change. I also think that all political/social commentary and debates are done from the idea backwards. In other words I have an idea and the facts and ideas I use to support it are just my way of saying why I agree with this idea. They aren't why I think this way. I learned to think this way these facts are just a way to support that. If my thoughts where based on the facts then different facts (to be a fact for this point it doesn't have to be proved what a fact is, is very debatable) would change peoples thoughts. On a side note I stayed away from the drug debate on purpose way to complex with legal and illegal and scripts and stuff. My last example is the gay issue. One thing I have heard read is that homosexuality is not normal and not natural. The counter point is haven't you heard there are gay animals and people can " " the nature show where they saw gay animal sex [in an educational not porno way get the mind out of the gutter]. That fact should be enough to at least get people to rethink their thoughts but it doesn't. As a final note I remember being with my uncle and seeing a cool bumper sticker that said "Don't believe everything you Think". But most people do and for that reason real debate on line and off line can never really achieve much. It would be nice if it could.
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The thing is that for some beliefs sex is only for conception. That is why birth control is a sin. You have to be Married other wise it is sin. If it is someone who isn't married to you it is sin. The thought (not to many people think this as opposed to the past) alone, yes lustful thoughts is a sin. So if you aren't with your husband/wife having sex to have a kid it is a sin.
Showing that a broken family messes up everyone life might do the trick and it would be a lot more effective. The Problem is Contraception to them is a sin, I don't even want to know what they think about "The Morning after Pill".
I don't believe in the abstinence only idea and think it is a bad idea. It is like teaching a kid how to cross at a light and telling him you can only cross at a light. Well kid plays out side ball goes into the street so he hasn't been told how to react he run out into the street. Remember he isn't crossing it (anal sex isn't sex and neither are blow jobs but anal can give you all kinds of STD's) so he runs out and gets hit by a car. Oh yeah and if you want a real life example look at Sarah Pallin's family. But what I'm saying is this. Sex is great and it is a lot of fun. I shouldn't have it really because I have enough trouble raising my self, let alone a kid. People at least need to think about that and if they aren't ready for that don't fuck. If you aren't ready for sex and the other partner wants to have sex and you don't to Till You know it is the right person and they can't wait then they don't have the set of skills they need to stick through the tough times after the kid is born.
See This new Generation it is all about Me. And you can't hit a kid, you have to be their friend, and you can't discipline them. When it is all about you, and you have no dedication or loyalty or being responsible for your actions it is very easy to say, fuck him I'm taking my baby and I'm going.
I'm not bashing an entire generation but some of them are fucked up.
Oh yeah (e:tinypliny) you do make some great points
Those crazy people are really just that - demented and ignorant for good measure.
Sex is not a one-way affair and is essential to being human. However, too err is human too.
You could argue that every species is alike in that the male gets to walk away from responsibility. But no species on this planet, apart from ours actually casts stones on the female and makes her bear of cross of guilt for ever. I don't look kindly on parents who run away, but I have only respect and empathy for women who realize that they can't be good parents and try to do something about it before its too late. Shame on people who hold up "religion" as a curse against women.