"Typical Corrupt Dirty Buffalo" written by Vincent on estrip.org

08/22/11 06:56 - ID#55000

Typical Corrupt Dirty Buffalo

I'm just spreading the word. This is just the typical way things are run around here, use your muscle and pull to drive away any competition.

Taken from the Facebook Page

Establishments that have complained about a food truck serving somewhere they had been invited to:

Fables Cafe

Waterline Cafe

Taki's

Establishments that have lobbied the Buffalo Common Council to delay implemenation of food truck regulations:

Jim's Steak Out

Elmwood Taco and Subs

Just Pizza

This may actually be a healthy thing to do anyway. F those arrogant fast food places on Elmwood.

metalpeter writes at 05:21:05 08/24/11 - Comment #64581

The Funny thing is Most of the food trucks by the time they are someplace I've missed them and I'm a fan of Llyods.... I think what we are maybe really debating is what is fair?

What is really an even playing ground is an interesting question really.... Don't get me wrong I love the truck idea but since you are outside you can walk and eat or lean on a building or find ground or someplace to sit.... So would it be fair for Bigger trucks less mobile that had a setting area? So I admit there any sit down place does have an advantage ......

Now what I would love to see but it will never happen is for all the food truck people and anyone who owns a bar or any place food is served to have a big giant round table and state what they think about food trucks and the issue then let the law makers watch and let them come up with some fair laws.... Now the reason I mention bars is a few years back at I think taste of buffalo not sure they had this big lot and Labbatt had a truck with a set up that you where buying beer right from the Semi truck and up top there was a stage.... The other reason I mention bars is that the ones who serve food and beer have two things.... Don't know NYS laws but why can't there be a Beer truck (granted drinking any thing out side would be a crime) but that is what they do at Thursday at the square set up the truck back and put up tables and there you go......

It is great that we have great food trucks.... But most good things get ruined by a small number of bad people... It would be nice to have the right laws in place so it doesn't happen... But both sides have just as much right to their ideas on the laws...

My main concern is that food truck can roam free with out hurting any one else who is selling food including not really mentioned in this the food cart people... There also needs to be some way or some system that works and is fair to deal with bad food trucks... If there is some problem it shouldn't take a month to fix... You just report the problem and the inspectors show up and see what the problem is... I hold this both ways... If a food truck is set up selling taco's Mighty Taco can't send some guy dressed in a board sign or what ever for mighty taco in front of his truck to try and steal eaters .... "hey that is a long line what you getting....OH that is called this down the street a bet your there isn't a line there never is at this time" type of thing....

Just have to ad one thing that I don't think I have heard anyone mention in this debate and I don't mean just between us I mean in the news.... This goes back to (even chain places run by local people) why I think there should be a big pow wow... Do food trucks do better near restaurants ? And this the opposite also true? Granted it has been a long time since the research was done on fast food places but Burger Kings and McDonald's that are near each other do better then opens where there isn't a competitor ****

YesThatCasey writes at 04:20:32 08/24/11 - Comment #64557: "The Point is if you are in stock trading or any other form of capitalism there will all ways be predators and people who just want to fuck or who will fuck you over and as cool of an idea as food trucks are gotta make sure that there is no way for them to do that......."

What I'm saying is....substitute "Food Truck" with "Brick and Mortar".

For the record, I don't even care for Lloyd's, though I've only once been a patron. The reality is that personal preference isn't what's important here; it's about what's fair.

Consider this: 20 years from now, most food establishments are based out of trucks. The concept of brick and mortar fast food places is antiquated, thought of as terribly inefficient. High-traffic locations are free'd up for other businesses that can make more appropriate use of them and possess a synergy with the food trucks that frequent the sites.

Either this sounds possible or laughable. If it sounds possible, then what this law does is stymie innovation. If it sounds laughable, then it weakens the argument that this will somehow destroy these businesses.

In the end, ETS has the ability to make a truck of their own. They are on equal playing ground. 500 feet seems more than reasonable to me to prevent any shock to the establishment. Trying to block them from the village does not.

metalpeter writes at 05:14:40 08/23/11 - Comment #64540: What is 500 hundred 500 both ways in a walking area never walked it out Zillycakes ? End Of Bidwell Park? Point is it doesn't matter... Everyone loves the new thing and says this is great but no one wants to worry about the dark side... Everyone loved the tech of flash Mobs and singing Christmas songs or having a pillow fight... But now they are in the news for the damage they cause and that is all many people know of them....

Many Years ago I was in Toronto and this holds true for any other Big city (not Buffalo size).... It was dark out some truck was selling food I was hungry but city that big no way I'm taking my chances from eating from that truck....

Now quality of Lloys vs ETS do I really want to pay $7 for one taco eh maybe but that isn't the point the point is with out the right regulation some thing made for summer that in theory could go any where could cause someplace else to close....

Both sides have just as many rights to try and get the laws to favor them.... But I'm not going to boycott Just Pizza.... That would be just as I don't want to say dumb to say Llyods is trying to be young and hip and skip the rules so I won't eat there.....

One other thing that the law needs to address is food trucks near food trucks..... The reason I say this is could all the food trucks say be in a certain empty lot.... What if say Jim's or ETS or Mighty Taco as examples want to start a food truck.... and that brings up my point about why ETS needs protection.... Why can't say Mighty Taco who's locations all ways seem to change why can't they go out and get 2 maybe 3 trucks make them hybrids or what ever type of fuel source they like and send them out at what ever time they want to Elmwood?

As Another Example why can't some National company set up Desert trucks on Elmwood and try and get sweetooth and Zillycakes to close......

The Point is if you are in stock trading or any other form of capitalism there will all ways be predators and people who just want to fuck or who will fuck you over and as cool of an idea as food trucks are gotta make sure that there is no way for them to do that.......

YesThatCasey writes at 03:05:30 08/23/11 - Comment #64531: Peter: These trucks cannot set up within 500 feet per the rules they have agreed to, so your scenario of trucks setting up on each side is something that would not happen. The problem is that these establishments want to push that barrier out to well over 1000 feet, which would essentially block trucks from the entirety of Elmwood and other similar areas. That's a power move that should leave a bad taste in your mouth.

In the end, if they have a good product, they shouldn't have to worry. And if they don't have a good product, maybe it's time they focused on fixing that problem. The quality of ingredients Lloyd uses are obviously well above that of ETS, and they are also pricier. They are not similar businesses, but ETS wants to muscle out any competition.

And as for the 'hard earned money' of ETS, let's remember that this was the place that avoided $400,000 in taxes just recently.

I'm not knocking ETS overall; they have done some nice things. But they don't have a leg to stand on. Being a respectable business doesn't mean you can push lynch laws into place.

vincent writes at 11:52:42 08/23/11 - Comment #64529: Another good article
:::link:::

vincent writes at 10:28:15 08/22/11 - Comment #64513: Personally I don't go to any of the three places anymore. So I'm not changing my habits at all.

Only having so much money to go around doesn't entitle anyone to it. The last time I checked it we do have an free market capitalistic system at least on paper in the USA. If one cannot make it in business on their own, it's not my problem.

As of right now there is no permit process or law other than NYS sanitary rules. There isn't any way if they even wanted to get a permit to operate on public property. The city council REFUSES to make any rules because of pressure from ETS, Jim's & Just Pizza. They now operate on PRIVATE PROPERTY by invitation only. WHAT ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS?

It's all about pressure from people that have clout in the city to prevent anyone from competing against them. The ones with the friends in high places make the rules in this city. Forget about the free market or capitalism. That's why Buffalo fails, it's all about who you know not about the best product.

Here you have someone that moved back to Buffalo to go into business, but the dude from Jim's is afraid of competition down the street, calls a friend and shuts it down. You have someone with a new idea, but because people have pull they snuff it out.

Just watch the story :::link:::

This is why Buffalo fails and the rest of the country succeeds. We don't allow outsiders in unless they're going to school at UB. Well that's an over exaggeration but this is how the rest of the country operates. We just have the mentality to protect our turf and shy away from new ideas.

metalpeter writes at 08:13:52 08/22/11 - Comment #64512: Sorry Gotta Disagree with you With the ETS.... They Burned down... Opened up a new place then a bank wanted it moved again....

So you are telling me that if you poured your own hard earned or loaned money into a place (It takes enough money to be able to lose money for about 5 years granted that might be a fancy place with wait staff and all that) and found your spot and had a good client tell you would be ok with who knows whom from who knows where being legally allowed to set up a truck 10 feet from your place so that anyone who wants a Taco can go to the truck instead of your place..... I know I sure wouldn't want them to be able to....

The other factor with food trucks is..... There is only so much money to be spent on that kind of food.... Now if I sell tacos like the 3 places mentioned most people can't eat those every day... Now if that truck hangs out by where they work next time on elmwood no one will buy a taco they just had them yesterday....

See like Flash Mobs everyone thinks oh we have great food trucks and we do.... But like flash mobs it only takes one bad one or worse yet how about out of town people who could bring trucks in and try to put local buffalo places out of Business hey why can't (now that they are in the burbs out near the Galleria mall it would be silly) Chipotle say come in with a fleet or really all they need is two and part on either side of ETS..... Kill all there summer Buisness then vanish......

Just Pizza (yes I remember when that is all they had) not sure how the franchises are Have put a lot of money and time into being the best Specialty Pizza place .... Where this I think ties in for them and Jim's Is that I think they both are at other festivals and have there own set up and charge more..... Now Lets say someone comes up with a pizza truck they could be not even part of say The Italian Festival and Park where everyone walks to enter... Or if they are part of the festival be another pizza place oh and then when that Festival ends for the night go drive and hang out at their corner....

I love the idea of food trucks and think they are great.... I do agree in a free market.... but the problem is in this fucked up country of ours people lie, cheat and steal so they can make half a cent more and so there has to be a way to make sure that that the playing field is even I say the trucks should be like the ice cream trucks and play music and not camp out with the exception of festivals in that case just like the stands they have to stay there for entire thing and can't leave and come back the next day.... You have to bring the supplies to the truck....

On a side note how is the food inspected and how are they inspected for clean and good food?

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Category: concerts

08/04/11 12:13 - ID#54854

Free Show Crowd

Tuesday = Trash Day in Lewiston NY

'Nuff Said

This is the demographic of Western New York that goes to this things or the part that you just can't shake like a bad smell in old sneakers.

They don't want to remember the band, music or show; This is what it's all about to them!

metalpeter writes at 12:20:15 08/06/11 - Comment #64144: You Act like you have never been underage and had to many and got really fucked up (I'm kidding around sort of) .... Anyone who has ever had a drink has been that guy once... And anyone who says they haven't been is full of shit!

If I drove there are many free concerts I would go to Like The Tea Party and ZZ Top for the music.... That is why a lot of people go to them is for the music.......

Now of course there is that set of people who are there for a good time and don't care what the band is... What is wrong with that go out there look at the pretty girls and or boys get messed up and listen to music why is that any different than what so many people do in a bar go and just listen to whom ever happens to be there...

I admit I would rather people go for the specific band but some people even who do have to get high or smashed to go and then don't remember the show that isn't my thing and I think it is fucked up but that is how they enjoy the show so just don't spill beer on me or if you do buy me a drink.....

vincent writes at 04:08:36 08/04/11 - Comment #64099: (e:mrmike) The music you hear is the opening act, he HAD to be pre-gaming/tailgating it somewhere. Most people do, that's why the village residents complain about the beer cans & other stuff on their front lawns every Tuesday/Wednesday.

mrmike writes at 01:46:28 08/04/11 - Comment #64098: Must be nice to be so well-financed to purchase all those $7 beers

vincent writes at 10:54:50 08/04/11 - Comment #64097: (e:tiny) I shot it on a dark beach in FLA, I realize that it's dark & I like it that way ;-)

(e:leetee) It's totally scary to see, especially when there are hundreds of them in the same place.

tinypliny writes at 08:32:47 08/04/11 - Comment #64095: Your avatar is too dark, (e:vincent)! I have now viewed over several monitors, colour, saturation, gamma, brightness and contrast profiles and it is uniformly dark everywhere.

tinypliny writes at 08:31:08 08/04/11 - Comment #64094: Maybe he is the only one enjoying the music and doing an interpretative sufi sort of dance?

leetee writes at 07:46:25 08/04/11 - Comment #64093: it's been a good 20 years since i personally have felt the only way to have a good time is to get toasted. i do, however, know way too many people my age and older who have yet to learn that lesson....

libertad writes at 06:59:35 08/04/11 - Comment #64092: Maybe he needs a V8?

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Category: stalking

08/02/11 04:42 - ID#54846

Social Engineered (sort of)

So I was sitting at the Orange Cat today with my Mom in Lewiston

and I overheard a couple of young women say something to the effect of:

Blah Blah Blah, Over there him, Blah Blah Blah It's like a facebook for Buffalo Blah Blah Blah...

Then I realized that I tweeted that I was there at the OC and this profile page is linked to my twitter account. It's funny because when I looked under the Orange Cat in the search box I saw the twitter account for the chick that was sitting in front of me.

I always used to get crazy about my Ex-Girlfriend talking about specific details about my life out in public. I remember down in Florida I was able to locate a ton of info on someone from 4 words from a conversation on a patio restaurant.

To be honest I really don't care too much as I'm trying to maximize my twitter account to get my Klout score up just because I'm bored with being off of work. But it is creepy sometimes when you're out and you swear you recognize someone then realize that you saw a dating profile of them somewhere on OK Cupid or Plentyoffish.

To me this experience was a bit amusing and goes to show how digitized we are as in the amount of info we can pull up on each other in public with just a tiny bit to go on. Yet going over to them and striking up a conversation in person would be ultra creepy. It's just part of the whole text but don't call type of thing that we've moved into these days.

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Category: business

08/01/11 12:28 - ID#54840

HSBC

So it is now going to be First Niagara Arena?

How about First Niagara Tower???

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07/27/11 02:01 - ID#54796

Yep this is so me

Now I'm Asexual

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07/14/11 08:21 - ID#54698

waterstreetlanding

Basically I'm writing to say that water street landing at in 115 South Water St Lewiston NY 14092 716.754.9200 in Lewiston NY totally SUCKS.

Basically we were at another Lewiston Establishment, told there was a hour wait. This was 6:20 PM. We tried to figure out what else to do and then called this place. They said that they could serve a party of 4 when we arrived, Great. We came down sat in the pub side, which was half empty. This is now 6:35 as we order a round of drinks. Time flies by it is not 7:15 we have to WAIVE or FLAG Down the bartender/waiter at this point to get another round. The food should be out by now right? NO, 7:35 rolls around, still no food. Keep in a couple who came after us ordered, ate and paid their check and is out the door at this point is on their way to see a concert at Artpark, the same one we are heading to.

At this point we just pull a typical Hell's Kitchen and pay for the drinks and walk out. The ironic part is that they kept on stalling us to give us our bar tab. Talk about adding insult to injury. We after a hour plus of waiting we walked out as we had to catch the concert at Artpark.

If you're thinking about this place make sure you have time to waste looking at the view of the Niagara River float by because that's all this place is good for is the view. The food is over priced and the service is non-existent.

Another thing manager is extremely rude. She made it a point to insult me saying "we're extremely busy on the patio." Well guess what Ma'am I'm from Lewiston, my parents came here now as I won't let them frequent this establishment any longer 2-3 times a month; It wasn't any busier today than it would be on a typical Wednesday. There are concerts at Artpark every Tuesday and Wednesday during the summer months; this is clockwork not a surprise. I've been here on Friday for fishfry which in Western New York is a well frequented and busy event, it wasn't even 1/2 as busy as it was Today.

Horrible Staff and Service, if you like being insulted while looking at the river then this is your place. When does the customer deserve blame to wait over a hour for their order to be served without any contact or explanation. A simple apology would have sufficed but the condescending insults were totally uncalled for. People walk out of restaurants for being extremely show all the time, just watch an episode of Hellâ€™s Kitchen. At least Gordon Ramsey takes it out on the staff not the customers. Please keep in mind I an a local non-tourist that lives in the area and whose parents are frequent customers.

Just think if they treat me this way, what do you think theyâ€™ll do you to a passing through town tourist?

Visited July 2011

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Category: craigslist

07/03/11 05:59 - ID#54633

Why Niagara Falls Sucks

I found this gem on Craigslist R&R's

So True on so many levels!

They wonder why so many people leave this place? It's obvious. You can't make a life here. The jobs pay nothing, and every house you go to buy you have to contend with renters who either lie and say they know nothing about a house showing (so you can't get in), disappear when they're supposed to let you in, or they refuse to leave once a deal has been signed. The property management companies own so much property here that it's becoming almost impossible to actually buy anything, and so many owners are renting out because no one is willing to pay top dollar for rundown houses in crappy neighborhoods.

And who's renting these places you ask? Of course, bums, drug addicts, drunks, gang bangers, and single mom whores on Section 8 who refuse to work, sitting on their fat asses yelling at their bad ass kids all day. Listen to an ad I read for a house being sold right now in Niagara Falls:

Owner resides in California and "VERY MOTIVATED!!!" CSS will authorize showings through the tenants daughter, since the tenant has no direct phone. Property SOLD AS IS with no repairs resulting from home inspection. INVESTOR DARLING! LONG TERM TENANT. Home rented for $532 via subsidy with social services.

So the ad clearly establishes that the tenant is a loser who refuses to work, and gets a huge nice FREE house all paid for by the state. I've seen the tenant and she's just another fat piece of despicable white trash. The sad part is that this house is not only nice but in a good neighborhood. What a damn shame.

But if the rent problem isn't enough, you've got these Real Estate companies blocking deals. They'll lie and say they've talked to their client and made the offer, then you see the client on the street and ask them about it and they're like "I never got any offer! WTF is going on?". The companies do that so they can make a fake bidding war to get you to pay more money, and since if you buy a house in Niagara Falls you'd be bidding against a property management company 99% of the time because they're the only ones really buying houses here (so they can rent them out), you're going to lose because they're always going to be willing to top your offer.

I need to get out of this city somehow, but it's tough to figure out where to go and what place has the best to offer. I used to love this place, but now it's pretty much unbearable to live here. How unbearable you ask? Well, if the Devil died, God would force him to spend all eternity in Niagara Falls, NY.

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Category: tv

06/24/11 04:50 - ID#54564

When Ch 29 was good

Before Fox

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Category: tourism

06/21/11 07:06 - ID#54545

Downtown Niagara Falls

I was just thinking lately that Niagara Falls NY is slowly turning the corner and isn't the embarrassment that it has been in the past. From what it appears it's been part government and the other portion has been Canadian investors. The people that just bought the Sheraton own most of Niagara Falls Ontario and it's just ironic that they're bringing the playbook over here. Basically it's have a Starbucks in your hotel and a chain restaurant which is TGI Friday's which will open up next week. The old Hotel Niagara was purchased by some guy from Vancouver, but as you can see from the pics nothing has been done as of you. What gets me is what are they going to do about parking? Carl Paladino beat them to it as it appears he got the lot that used to be used by the hotel.

Yea the old OTB sign still stands on the rusted out mall and the walkway from the parking garage to the now One Niagara Center just looks out of place to the knowledgeable eye.

metalpeter writes at 09:02:43 06/26/11 - Comment #63209: The Winter Gardens used to be pretty Cool.... Love the Hardrock Cafe..... Not sure if I can remember when there was good shops in the Rainbow mall or not.....

The Ugly fact of the matter Niagara falls is the place where it seems that every 2 years ok maybe 3 you hear about some great plan and then none of those cool things ever show up..... I say it is the local mob I mean the Phelps family I mean local 210 not really sure who it is Maybe it is just why would someone want to build something when all the good stuff is on the other side....

I think a lot of it comes from the younger drinking age.... So many people go over to what ever that place was called to drink and then stay over there.... The Older crowd has the strip clubs..... But Trump and others who where concerned about organized crime made sure that gambling would stay illegal so NF usa never got the Casino yes they got an Indian one But it just isn't as cool you can't do as much with it you don't get all the taxes ....... As an example (have no papers so can't cross the boarder) in the past I went to the hardrock Cafe and there is a door that goes (used to be) right to the Casino...

Yes for looking at the falls we have the better side and yes that park should be there....But it is so scary how the other side has taken what ever that place they had with the games from when I was a kid and changed that entire area and the US really hasn't....... I Hope I'm wrong but guessing in 10 years it will still be the same?

paul writes at 09:31:13 06/22/11 - Comment #63121: The rainbow mall is so creepy now. I remember looking down into it from inside the parking ramp a few years back. It looked like something out of a post apocalyptal movie.

I like the openness created by the removal of the wintergardens but at the same time, that was such a cool winter destination.

I hope it all changes bit the Canadians will always have the advantage if the better view. Maybe we should add a curtain and charge them to open it each day, lol.

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