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The Don Imus Nonsense

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Interesting take on the whole soap opera, written by an African American Columnist


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  1. james ·

    Oh man, what a crock of shit that was. An interesting take, granted.

    Of course, the culture he wants us to attack exists for a reason. And that in of itself opens up a can of worms too large for a comment on a journal that just linked us to that article.

    Thanks for the find, it was a fun read.

  2. imk2 ·

    please elaborate, james...i'd like to know why you think that was a crock of shit?

  3. james ·

    Well, basically I think attacking the culture that arises out of a particular group of people is misguided. Music that deals with drugs and violence, that is mysogonist or racist springs forth not on its own but from a very real environment.

    So, in short, attack poverty and not the music of the impoverished.

    And here enters arguments about rap music being co-opted and so forth, which is why I shouldn't have entered into it.

    MrMike, I apologize for hijacking your post. Feel free to get even by posting random pictures of puppies in any of my entries and we will call it even.

  4. imk2 ·

    thanks for the clarifications. i don't think you hijacked the post and i dont think mrmike does either...(right mrmike?) i like knowing WHY people think what they do.

  5. mrmike ·

    No apologies necessary. The beauty of (e:strip) -- we just chattin. I like ideas and how people utilize them.

    I'm fresh out of puppy pix, but you didn't hijack.

  6. james ·

    Thank you both.

    Just wanted to cover my tracks when I take a plane full of passengers hostage you two can say that I am no hijacker.

  7. joshua ·

    Imus' problems and the problems in inner city culture are mutually exclusive; neither set understands the problems of the other and most likely don't care either.

    I agree with what the writer says about Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. These people are race baiters and opportunists who have a vested personal interest in perpetuating a myth - that racial tensions are still at a 1960's level. Their literal bread and butter depends on shaking down corporations for hush money if they feel that their companies aren't as diverse as they would like. Generally I think their practical usefulness to African-Americans has passed them by.

    Setting that aside, dismissing Imus' problems to concentrate on a completely different issue IS misguided. Black culture may have created the words that he used, but they certainly didn't put them in his mouth. Bigotry is bigotry and regardless of whether its okay for blacks and not for whites to call each other "niggers" Don Imus just had his last public case of verbal diahrrea.

    Imus was obviously guilty and IMO he is deserving of what he is getting - there is far too much precedent in these sorts of things for him not to have been fired.

  8. metalpeter ·

    That is an excellent article. I think a lot of it is true. I think Al and Jesse do the black community a disservice most of the time. They are just trying to push there own agenda and use blacks for there own gain.

    Before I get into the music debate I will say that Imus shouldn't have been fired. What he stated was his opinion just like if someone said "Homosexuality is sin and all gays will burn in hell forever and never see their loved ones unless they are in hell also" I personly don't believe that but a lot of people do. Some people believe whites and blacks should intermarry and have kids and with in a few Hundred years everyone will be a brownish color and bye bye to rascism. So people think that intermixing Races is wrong and even nationalities is wrong. It is an opinion and we are free to have differing ones. It doesn't matter whos way of thinking is the majority both sides should be free to say what they believe with out being punished. There is a difference between thoughts an actions and often that is forgot about. Imus didn't take his hate grab a girl with wavy hair and strighten it and then take her to church to un ho her. All he did was express his thoughts.

    I admit that I used to listen to rap music a lot. You have the positive stuff and the Gangster stuff . I'm not saying it all falls into the catagory. Then allong with rap there is hip-hop also. The thing about rap is that (or at least in the past) you heard a lot more of the negative stuff then postive stuff on the radio. Yes women are looked down on in the music. But I do kinda agree with Snoop a little bit they aren't singing about mom they are singing about lose girls who really are hos. But now in terms of the videos is where I would disagree (if you ever don't have porn just watch a rap video, yummy, yum, yum those girls look delicous) Because those girls know what they are signing up for. The thing about Rap Music is that most of the time it is a reflection of the culture. It does glamourise it but that doesn't mean that it encourages it. We all know that art reflects life but not sure if it also the other way around, it could be.

    I find it interesting that some of what Louis Farakhan (why isn't he the civil right leaders for blacks) says even though it is hateful towards whites is also what whites say about blacks. I haven't heard anything he has said in a long time so my memory may be wrong. But basicly he wants blacks to correct there wrongs of single mothers and he wants his "sisters" to be strong. There are a lot of problems in the ghetto that compound other problems. That doesn't mean that everyone is a drug dealer or murderer but if you listened to rap you would think that.

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