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12/16/09 06:13 - ID#50577
Rochester's bus fares are $1 because...
they scrapped the transfer charges of $0.30 and charge $1 for every ride regardless of however many transfers you might be taking.
Honestly, I would prefer that scheme. I never have that ridiculous quarter AND a five-cent coin or three ten-cents coins anyway and end up paying $1 or $0.50 for transfers. Also, I rarely transfer within city limits or while going to the nearest malls/airport.
I am just a little annoyed that the fares are $1.75 here because of poor management of public transport while our neighbouring city has better sense and judgement.
Oh, and on another note, I derailed someone's lunch plans to go downtown and see if I could catch the Matrix bloke, but all I saw was a white tent. That's it. I couldn't see even the cameras! Unfair. Were they shooting inside or what?
There seemed to be most barricading near the M&T gold-domed bank building.
Honestly, I would prefer that scheme. I never have that ridiculous quarter AND a five-cent coin or three ten-cents coins anyway and end up paying $1 or $0.50 for transfers. Also, I rarely transfer within city limits or while going to the nearest malls/airport.
I am just a little annoyed that the fares are $1.75 here because of poor management of public transport while our neighbouring city has better sense and judgement.
Oh, and on another note, I derailed someone's lunch plans to go downtown and see if I could catch the Matrix bloke, but all I saw was a white tent. That's it. I couldn't see even the cameras! Unfair. Were they shooting inside or what?
There seemed to be most barricading near the M&T gold-domed bank building.
- Yeah, that was off the Intehn3ts.
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I also wonder about if 24 hour service to all stops is possible. I get off work at 3am there is a bus. I know I would pay $3 to walk out of a bar stagering and I walk a block to the #3 or what ever and then it shoots to my part of the city.
How about charging all those high schools and colleges that subsidize NFTA's services for their students so heavily, a bit more - just like RGRT? How about cutting some trains? Instead of running every 8/12 minutes, could they run every 15 minutes? Over time, such small measures are bound to add up.
On the same note, I wonder how many fare checkers and police the NFTA employs... Can't they simply install swipe gates at stations like NYC/Delhi and get rid of the checkers altogether and make more money in the long run?
In Rochester they let the cops police anything that goes down on the buses. But see here we have and underground train system and NFTA has to pay the people who check for fares. They have to pay the nfta cops and their cars and all of that stuff. Yeah if they wanted to be dicks they could pass that onto the city. Who can't even pay everything now. The other issue is it being underground you think the cops really are going to go down to the underground station.
Back to the ticket checkers since it is on the honor and then they check them, I'm sure people only going a couple stops cheat all the time.
All those other things NFTA is dippid into raises costs so that raises fares.
Someday, you need to explain over lunch about the cultural disdain for long sensible coats here! If you cross the pond, you will find that the sexiest and the most masculine men are often in the longest warmest coats. ;-)
Apparently, the $1 fare came at the right time - just before the depression hit the city and many people lost their jobs. He said that at peak hours, there was sometimes no place to stand in the buses and the bus drivers don't even stop at designated stops because they are under instructions not to go beyond a dangerous limit of passengers. Some routes have 2x frequency now because of so many people taking the bus. He said that in the morning, he often sees people dressed to the nines on the bus - headed for their offices at UofR or downtown.
I was in the city at an off-peak afternoon hour and a route that I knew wasn't crowded 2 years back was overflowing in the afternoon! I think I expressed surprise at this and that is why the employee (who was recording passenger statistics on his digital counter clipboard) told me how it was all working!
The NFTA needs to take economics and business lessons from the RGRT.
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As far as winter apparel tiny, I don't think I could wear what you wear and not get beat down. There has to be a better way! BTW, I mean no offense to your coat, for you it works and I imagine you are never cold in it.
@(e:libertad): You need a heavy-duty down-filled snowcoat reaching your knees or even longer. It keeps you warm and toasty and has enough air trapped to prevent sweating when you are walking fast.
I was talking to one of my officemates today and he told me that there is a cultural barrier against wearing longer coats here. Apparently people think longer coats are only worn by older women. Is that true? That really sounds ridiculously vain.
The news had some shots and I guess some people made their way in to have a look. Bank robbers coming out of the bank was something that was shown.
As the Scandinavians say, there is no such thing as bad weather, only insufficient clothing.