"VP Debate Note" written by James on estrip.org

10/03/08 09:04 - 45ºF - ID#45913

VP Debate Note

John Edwards always seemed like he was doing a preacher impression. Last VP debate I saw I clearly remember John looking into the camera with that dura-flame fire in his eyes and said marriage is between a man and a woman and that is that so there end of discussion. Preachers, when saying things like that, bug the shit out of me.

Last night was a different story. Joe Biden got the question about same-sex couple rights. He knocked it out of the park for me. No difference between a het couple and a homo-awesome couple.

Sarah skirted the question by talking about marriage and god and stuff, ignoring the issue entirely. But since she changed the topic to marriage, the next question was "Do you support same-sex marriage". And that is when things got interesting.

Joe said no, he and Obama do not support it. But the way he framed it was so different from what Edwards had said four years ago and he said it in a way that fixes the biggest problem with the discourse of same-sex marriage. He framed it was the government must make the two equal in terms of rights. Gay marriage is a religious thing and the government wont force a church to do anything.

Many people, including many homosexuals, do not understand that the marriage debate has two components: civil marriage and religious marriage. We only care about civil marriage, as churches can perform marriages if they are so enlightened. The other side only talk about the sanctity of their religious marriage. Joe Biden isn't even talking about that and the differences between civil unions and gay marriage are inconsequential in terms of a first step towards marriage equality.

How the discourse has changed in four years. While it is far from perfect (perfection would be no marriage at all. Am I right guys? Am I right?) it dismantles the GOP argument pretty well from a rhetorical stand point.

kisses,

-James

tinypliny writes at 09:35:11 10/03/08 - Comment #39640: Extending that concept further, I would avoid saying "couples" as well. This is not a flippant comment. For me, death is so real and life feels so short that any man-made ridiculous impediment toward achieving happiness seems like an inhumane thing to do - as bad or even worse than racism and other societal evils. If people want to live as a family, there can be no greater joy than allowing them to achieve that harmony in their lives.

Religious and/or short-sighted legal arguments forcibly erecting barriers towards happiness seem so cruel, hypocritical and petty to me. :/

metalpeter writes at 07:38:18 10/03/08 - Comment #39631: I wish I could have stayed awake for that part. Hey it was could and I need a blanket so out I went. So since I didn't hear what they said I can't comment on that. But there is a difference between state marriages and ones done in a church. If I have heard correctly Canada legaly says there is a difference and because of that if someone in a church won't Marry you they don't have to and they can't be forced or sued for it. I also don't think it should be called "Gay Marriage" . This is going to sound like a joke but I'm serious. Why can't two life mates get married. There are often times when friends are like family where two people are like brothers or cousins and are really tight or when one old person takes care of someone who is less old. If these two people got hitched they would get rights that they normaly wouldn't get. Currently it is a state issue but I think it needs to be a national issue really and here is why. What if two people are in love and they get married in Boston well then one of the couples company closes or movies to Chicago so they both move, Well in that state the Marriage isn't recognized but then would they have rights and legal protection for things they took care of in boston. See how confussing it gets. But see if there was some federal law that said States had to recognize marriage rights given in other states then that would really help. The other issue is, is same sex divorce legal where marriage is? Not everyone stays together for ever.

tinypliny writes at 06:36:15 10/03/08 - Comment #39625: "I don't know how you can separate the civil right from the civil benefits! I don't know how you can be for one, against the other, and still be thought of as friendly to the cause. Someone please help me with this."

You cannot. I agree. I don't interpret what Biden said as being any favourable to gay-rights that what Palin babbled about. See below.

jason writes at 05:28:41 10/03/08 - Comment #39622: I have a feeling I'm going to regret the effort, but I'd like to add a few things.

I've actually tried to make an argument similar to Biden's before to some people, and it was summarily rejected. Why? Because "separate but equal" is a relic from a time gone by, and we need not look to the past for an answer. I am sympathetic to that idea. I wonder how prevalent that view is. Maybe some of you can fill in the blanks for me?

Then again, politicians can say whatever they want, especially if they don't actually have to take action that has any effect on the problem, and they don't have to answer for themselves. Biden voted YES on the DOMA, so presumably he's deferring to the states. He can say whatever the hell he wants when he won't have to deliver, and he doesn't strike me as a states rights kind of guy.

In fact, I'm more libereal than Biden is on this. I don't know how you can separate the civil right from the civil benefits! I don't know how you can be for one, against the other, and still be thought of as friendly to the cause. Someone please help me with this. I know that when I made the argument before I was made to feel like I was definitely anti-gay. It actually made me more liberal on the topic.

tinypliny writes at 01:22:06 10/03/08 - Comment #39616: Alright, I don't see why its so tough to be clear on this issue. I don't like both their answers.

Biden first: You support equal rights for all couples but won't support marriage because it has a religious edge? So religiously, you are uncomfortable with giving all couples equal rights? Or as you phrased it, you won't be forcing the church to reconsider their stuffy position.

Don't you think religion and spiritual beliefs are a right in themselves? If you cannot guarantee them, don't go about saying that you will give all couples equal rights. That is a white lie.

(e:James), you bring up the two faces of marriage - civil and religious. But marriage is an artificial construct. We were not born to marry, we were born to reproduce. So marriage is an artificial non-biological construct with its roots in law and religion. I think the essence of marriage is to allow couples to have legal rights AS WELL AS the spiritual well-being in the knowledge that their partnership is recognized and celebrated by the society as a whole. If one or the other facet of this construct is missing for some couples, in my opinion, they are being given a raw deal. The church-state non-involvement is a perfect excuse for clothing your real hypocritical opinions.

An ideal situation would be to take away all and any significance attached to the church/temple performed facet of marriage. Make it mandatory that every couple need to have a legal registered marriage in a court such as the lease for your flat or the deed for your house. If you are rich and can afford to spend the money or simply want to get your family together for the event, by all means, have your wedding ceremony at the Church/temple/wherever, in addition to the legal registration. With time, this practice will ensure that the "religious" component gradually loses any significance whatsoever and marriage will simply be a legal contract (which it is, right now but not many are comfortable accepting the idea).

Palin second: You are confused PR-driven soul. If you believe that religiously you can't agree to Gay marriage let alone rights, just say so. No one is going to be surprised (as many have already pointed out) or even care.

joshua writes at 10:56:38 10/03/08 - Comment #39610: To be honest both of them creeped me out last night.

james writes at 10:52:25 10/03/08 - Comment #39609: Yes. There were no real surprises in terms of policy last night. Even though there was half a team of mavericks on stage.

joshua writes at 10:50:05 10/03/08 - Comment #39608: Right, but what I'm saying is that I'm pretty sure you knew that before the debate anyway.

james writes at 10:47:00 10/03/08 - Comment #39606: Despite her rambling answer I figured it out. ^_^

joshua writes at 10:41:32 10/03/08 - Comment #39604: She doesn't support gay marriage. I'm pretty sure y'all knew that.

james writes at 10:15:50 10/03/08 - Comment #39601: Ya, Palin avoided the question. She tried to talk about religious marriage and rights. She was trying to have it both ways. Yes, I think everyone has rights, how tolerant of me. But don't worry guys, I don't think they deserve rights or anything. So when she was done puking buzz words Gwen Ifill said "good, so you both agree".

And that was magic.

dcoffee writes at 10:08:51 10/03/08 - Comment #39600: Biden was unequivocal about the civil rights guarantees of the constitution. I didn't even understand what Palin was talking about. She has a gay friend or something. I'm glad Biden was so direct about everything.

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10/02/08 12:56 - 53ºF - ID#45893

Dina Martinia

It is October and I am listening to the Dina Martina Christmas album. It is the funniest album of holiday music since Motorheads.

And who is this Dina Martina you may ask?

Why, only the finest drag performer.

Merry Christmas everyone!

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10/01/08 09:38 - 55ºF - ID#45874

Obey

How could you say no?

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09/30/08 03:18 - 65ºF - ID#45862

Blender

My landlords snagged us a blender before it went into our neighbors trash. They are awesome.

For a blender that was second away from being covered in diapers and vegetable peelings, it is the sweetest blender I have ever used. It has made life so much better in the two weeks I have had it.

Chocolate Milk:

Skim milk, water, whey protein, a table spoon cocoa powder, a few drops of stevia. So deliciouis, almost no fat or sugar. WIth the cocoa I couldn't make this before because you just can spoon mix the stuff into anything.

Fruit and Vegi smoothie.

non-fat yogurt, skim milk, whey protein, celery, whole lemon, whole apple, parsley, spinach. Because it is a blender and not a juicer the mix has some bits of solid vegi, but is such an easy, delicious way to have a mess of raw goodness.

Tzatziki dressing.

non-fat yogurt, juice of 1/2 lemon, whole peeled cucumber, garlic, dill. I used to make a tofu-based dressing with many of these ingredients but was much more watery. This has the same amount of protein and is even more delicious.

I know these recipes aren't exotic or interesting, they are just things I wouldn't have been able to make without a blender, or a much larger food processor.

Thank you gods of the garbage for making tummy happy.

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09/29/08 07:05 - 61ºF - ID#45847

Doing my part

Races are fun.

(e:Janelle) was nice enough to drag me out to a race this Sunday. We both ran a 5K with 1,500 other people. I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised.

My dad loves running. LOVES it. He used to run a couple marathons a year and would do 10ks regularly. I, however, loathed it as a kid. He was sign me up for a race so we could have some father/son bonding. But nothing pisses a 12 year old off like having to get up at 7 on a Saturday morning to jog.

But this was so much more fun. First, running with a crowd of hundreds is way more fun than doing it solo. I get to play little games, like running with someone for a few yards and then sprinting way ahead of them while making space ship noises in my head.

On the last mile I found the guy I wanted to beat. He looked my age and was about my build and we were making the same time about. He would pull ahead of me, then I would pull ahead, back and forth. Finally, I saw the finish and just gunned it and beat him by a few seconds. WOO HOO! Then I saw that a women in her 60's beat the two of us, giving me a lesson in humility, or something.

After, there was food and drink and a girl way too excited about pudding. But it was fun and I would do it again next weekend.

Thanks (e:Janelle) for inviting me.

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09/27/08 10:43 - 65ºF - ID#45803

Choose your own..... BRAIIIIINS!

Remember those choose your own adventure story books from childhood? They always had so much potential. One second you are having a perfectly educational experience exploring pioneer life, then the next you are drinking booze from the mouth of a whore. The greatness of the genera was never realized sadly.

But you can relive the wonder with The Outbreak an interactive zombie movie. It has surprisingly high production values and all the classic elements of a zombie flick. A sure crowd pleaser and a fine way to spend ten minutes.

Go get 'em.

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09/22/08 09:25 - 55ºF - ID#45763

How Long Can YOU Last?

See how long you can choke down this turd. I lasted two words before vomiting all over myself.

fellyconnelly writes at 07:13:11 09/24/08 - Comment #39190: this might have been ok if somebody else was singing it. maaaybbee...

metalpeter writes at 07:23:06 09/23/08 - Comment #39178: Was that Josh Brolin ?

Yes I watched it all, and I give it to him he has guts to do that and here is why:
1)singing on tv shows is often bad and his talent is way above that
2) His singing style doesn't fit theme songs
3) Tv show themes are classics
A)People know them and have memory attached to them
B) Even if not known well the second it sounds a bit different people freak

That being said Animal was Awesome. He got South Park perfect. I wonder how much control he had over how the band played the song or if they had to fit it to his style. Yes he does have a lot of talent but most of the songs sounded odd to say the least.

morgan writes at 05:14:30 09/23/08 - Comment #39175: Seriously?!?!?!? I would be embarrassed to sing this song....

You need to look aroun 1:43 to see his interpretation of South Park's theme song.

OMG nows he's singing the theme to COPS - and he is way too white to be singing the theme to fresh prince of bel air theme.

Ok, so it looks like I'm going to be watching the whole thing, but someone had to do it. Surprisingly people actually clapped he was done. Maybe they are the real losers!

tinypliny writes at 04:25:47 09/23/08 - Comment #39173: That was revolting. Yuckers.

joshua writes at 03:38:46 09/23/08 - Comment #39161: WTH?

drew writes at 11:24:08 09/22/08 - Comment #39154: That was me. Janelle would never watch that much crap.

janelle writes at 11:22:43 09/22/08 - Comment #39153: I was glad to see animal, but it was bad as soon as he got to the friends song.

Bad. Very bad.

The choir, I thought would help, but it didn't.

Law and Order twice? What's up with that?

I made it to the bitter end though.

jbeatty writes at 10:14:24 09/22/08 - Comment #39150: I made it to the love boat, then quickly turned it off so nobody in the house would think I was enjoying it.

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09/13/08 12:13 - 73ºF - ID#45665

Furries, we salute you!

With Hurricane Ike causing disaster it is important that we applaud those brave souls who stayed behind. And most of all, the Furries who stayed behind.

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09/11/08 11:47 - 66ºF - ID#45652

Sweet, Sweet Revenge

The lease on the campaign office lasted only until city hall processed permits for redoing our space. They sat on them knowing the developer was an ally of Sam's. If only they realized that it was our office they wanted to rip apart. So, yesterday we packed up and this afternoon we moved into our new office.

Now, where could be the sweetest place to move into? Sure, there are lots of nice spaces in great locations, but that is not why this space is tops.

No my friends, this space is infinitely better than marble walls and a view. We just moved into Barbra Kavanaugh's old campaign office.

We captured her castle, we win.

The only thing that could possibly make it better is if it came furnished with a throne of skulls taken from our foes.

But we all know the real base of operation was city hall. Maybe next year will will take that base too.