02/25/09 10:41 - 25ºF - ID#47883
Reproductive Rights
By now you should have at least heard of the "Octuplet Mom" that is all over the damn tabloids and news stations.
She is getting all kinds of flack...including something the other day about a gun. I dunno. It's tempting, don't get me wrong, to think, what the hell is she doing? She already had a bunch of kids, she has no husband and no job and now she's got eight infants on her hands. Who will support these kids, America wonders. We will! That's what's going on in most people's minds I imagine.
Before I get into this...I want to remind those of you who don't watch TV, or at least not quality programming such as these shows...that there are many, many women who have tons...yes, TONS of kids... and who are not getting half...or any of the negative responses that Octuplet Mom is getting. For example:
John and Kate plus Eight have their own show on TLC...and the only reason they have their own show is because they have EIGHT kids. The show chronicles the trials and tribulations of raising such a large family and there is always commentary by John and Kate where they are all made up and sitting in chairs alone looking calm and relaxed. The picture of a happy, heterosexual, married couple who just happen to have kids.
Then there is this show with the Dungar Family:
They have, I believe, 18 or 19 kids! They are of some religion where you can't use birth control, obviously. They home school all their children and have a real estate business to provide for the little fundamentalist army they have spawned. Once again, happy heterosexual couples who are married and ready to keep producing, and America is ready to keep watching in awe. Maybe a little disgust, but once again, not half the flack that the single Octuplet mom is receiving...
Sigh.
The point here is not to say that John and Kate Plus Eight or The Dungar Family should be getting more negative attention for reproducing as much as they are, but really looking at why Octuplet Mom IS getting so much. We approve of certain women reproducing, and that approval seems to have no bounds when it comes to how many that particular woman can reproduce. She must be married, obviously, to a man who can support her babies for her, and she must be at least middle class or higher. Preferably she should be white...although I guess if she meets enough of the other criteria that would prevent her from being labeled a "welfare queen," then we might let that one slip.
May I remind my dear readers that women, women of color, immigrant women, poor women of color especially, disabled women, and mentally ill women were STERILIZED against their will in this country. Why? Who decides?
Women's reproductive abilities have long long long been used against us. Whether we were having too many babies or not enough, whether they were white babies or light skinned babies or healthy babies or boy babies or whatever the hell men wanted at the time.
So basically, what I am trying to say is this. I understand the temptations. I fight with it myself sometimes. the almost instinctual judgment wells up and we say, you shouldn't have babies that you can't take care of. It seems so simple. But it is not. We are talking about a long and complicated history of women's bodies being used as a tool to manipulate, abuse, coerce, and blame women. And history is not some giant in the hillside that no longer haunts the villagers.
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02/22/09 12:27 - 25ºF - ID#47856
UnbeWEAVEable!
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02/17/09 03:57 - 32ºF - ID#47783
Pishaw
I took Ralphie for a walk today...his first walk in a VERY long time. Maybe I'm a bad mommy, but he hates the cold too, so we haven't gone since maybe October. It was nice today though and made me want nothing more than to go outside in a tank top and flip flops and be comfortable. That to me is nice.
Oh yes and I got fingerprinted today! I was quite impressed with fingerprinting technology...I don't know what I was expecting... ink and paper? But that's some fancy stuff they got there.
Oh right...speaking of...I had to go and privatize my facebook and my myspace cause...well, its best I spose. I never really had anything to hide before...not that I really do now, but for my own safety and well being I guess its the right thing...you can still find me on estrip, but hopefully there isn't anything too damaging on here :)
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02/12/09 12:26 - 36ºF - ID#47729
mm. sleep. good.
I have been waking up at 530 for the last three days in a row for my training, which is thankfully now over. the training was pretty good... not as terribly boring as i expected it to be. they have some pretty good techniques for dealing with kids and being a "teacher"...but i can't help but wonder how three days of lectures and mini role plays can really prepare you for working one on one with kids.
i know that when it comes down to it though, you can't really prepare. its like someone explaining to you exactly how to drive a car. it doesn't really click until you get there and do it yourself...and do it awhile before you are good at that. i also think that there is much that i can learn from kids...just like i hope they will learn from me. its all about the process i suppose
anyway, I am now a certified Direct Care Worker in the Wraparound program for Erie Country. I know how to deflect the punch of a cute little lady who was my partner for that exercise, and the correct steps of "preventative teaching," and crisis intervention. we shall see about that.
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02/04/09 12:19 - 16ºF - ID#47634
25 things...might as well.
2. When I was in high school I was in the band, orchestra, marching band, pep band and chorus. I also played the hand bells at church. Now I don't play anything.
3. I went to SUNY New Paltz to major in theater. I came out with a degree in Women's Studies.
4. I am currently writing my Master's Thesis.
5. I was born in Oklahoma and haven't been there in over 10 years even though I have tons of family there. I want to go back but I am afraid that they will judge me.
6. I am obsessed with black women's fiction.
7. I just got my first "real" job...at 25.
8. I am out to my parents...and they love my girlfriend.
9. I hate the cold, but I love to ski.
10. I got "best eyes" my senior year of high school.
11. I miss my New Paltz friends sometimes...and I miss New Paltz in general.
12. Cleaning makes me feel happy and accomplished.
13. I believe in ghosts, but I don't know if I believe in an afterlife. Explain that one.
14. I hate being the center of attention, but I crave the spotlight.
15. I am a hoarder. I keep everything. Notes from high school. New Kids on the Block collector cards. Trolls. I have them all.
16. My older brother lives in Seattle. I am extremely proud and jealous of him. My younger brother still lives at home and I'm not sure if he will ever really know how much I worry about him. I am the middle child and only girl.
17. My mom told me that my dad thinks I "walk on water".
18. I used to suck my thumb. I used to bite my nails. I used to chew on my hair. Now I smoke cigarettes, even though I think they are gross. I am a nervous person.
19. I am nostalgic about the past. I can't quite seem to connect all the parts of me.
20. I have never had a one night stand.
21. I hate shopping, but I love getting new clothes.
22. If I could, I would wear tank tops all year.
23. I have to get fingerprinted next week.
24. I managed to get through all my stupidities without ever being arrested. I am good at not getting caught and playing the part of good girl.
25. I want a baby someday....
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02/04/09 11:03 - 15ºF - ID#47630
Job Desciptions and the like
ISS
"Provides in-home/community skill building to individuals with Mental Health Diagnoses.
RII
"Provides in-home respite care to individuals ages five through seventeen with a MHD.
This is the very very very basic descriptions of my jobs. Yesterday I spent 45 minutes reading and signing my life away. They now have access to my SS#, my bank account, my drivers license and my gf's name. They know every address I've lived at since I was two years old and chances are they watch me when I pee.
Just kidding...a little.
Both of my job titles came with three page long descriptions of duties, requirements, qualifications, etc. It's enough to intimidate someone. My mother is a "keyboard specialist" for Broome County Developmental which is a state run agency and she is basically a paper sorter. She goes on and on about how much useless and unnecessary paperwork there is for every single thing that every single client has ever done since they were out of the womb. My mother often rewrites her superiors work so that their wording fits the guidelines of what the state finds acceptable in their paperwork. My mom's a smart lady. She got a 100 on the civil service exam. But she doesn't believe in evolution. Go figure.
Sigh. And so it goes....
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02/03/09 11:57 - 25ºF - ID#47616
RIP Spike
I think both felly and I have discussed the problem of our cats, Max in particular, of have a taste for plants, so Spike was always being chomped on and had stubs where his long spikey tendrils should have been. But he lived. This morning however, he was murdered. I had gotten up, peed, and poured myself a cop of coffee before I saw the gruesome scene.
There was so much dirt I couldn't even see the plant anymore. The pot was upside and to one side, while I saw the large roots sticking straight into the air. The dirt was concentrated on one area but then spread in two to three feet in either direction. I sighed. Poor Spike. What a way to wake up. I got to cleaning up the dirt and discovered what was left of the decapitated spikey leaves that were apparently his masculine trait. Now nothing but a sad story to blog about.
So, we are down to one plant. This one, feminine plant has survived perhaps even more than spike did. We thought we were helping her when we put in the sun last summer, only to watch her slowly shrivel and get sun burned. Apparently she is an indoor plant and needs only indirect light. After her near death experience however, she came back and is now bigger and more beautiful then ever.
3 weeks of winter left. I am looking forward to spring so i can plant some flowers outside where they are (a little more) safe from my cats.
Oh yes. Notes on the job....
Had to get a PPD test yesterday...apparently they are checking to see if I was exposed to Tuberculosis...the nurses at the office were craaazay, in that women who work together kind of way. Then I went to the Social Security office on Sheridan which was a trip. Weird. This is why I hate the government. Oh yeah and apparently "they" think (ie. have in their computer) that I was born in California, when really, I was born in Oklahoma. How this happens, I don't know. My passport says Oklahoma...I have never even been to California. Ah well. And today I have an appt. for 45 minutes of paperwork. I have gathered my degree, my passport and the paper that says I have a social security card on the way. (e:janelle) says I get fingerprinted too. Maybe I will find out some more things about myself that I don't know.
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01/31/09 12:17 - 13ºF - ID#47582
The Price of a Ticket
I set my little pee filled cup on the desk next to him and went to wash my hands, again. I came back and he was sitting there, looking around, rolling his eyes and not really doing anything except not looking at me. I was confused. Then he looked down and said "sign here for a negative result". I didn't realize they did it right there, so quick, tada you passed. Sweet. That guy must hate his job.
I talked to a woman from Human Resources yesterday and she was like, you need your social security and a copy of your degree. Uhhhh, I have no idea where my social security card is so I have to go get a new one on Monday and bring her the proof that says I'm a real live person. After three or four phone calls to my family back home, I found my degree and am having it shipped here in hopes that it will arrive by Tuesday when I have 45 minutes worth of paperwork to do. Good thing I already have a passport.
What is this? The Inquisition?! Is that what its like when you get a real job? I mean, I guess I can see cause I am working with kids and I will be representing the company so they want to be sure that I'm not a child molester or something, but holy hell.
Oh YEAH AND TONIGHT YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME BREAKIN!
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01/28/09 10:22 - 22ºF - ID#47541
Jobby Job
can i just tell you how much of a worry warted first time mom I am? I was doing and all but then Ralphie started popping blood, sleeping all day and got this rash thing on his nose. I might have cried a little, telling him that we would take him to the doctor and he would be all better. yeah, thats me. haha. course, being the poor mom that I am, I opted for only the blood tests instead of the x rays and, of course, the blood tests came back fine. 200 plus down the drain. at least he is feeling better though...he is eating a "bland diet" of boiled chicken and white rice, which I made for him. Spoiled little shit. he loves it and probably won't be happy when he starts getting his regular food mixed back in.
Anyways, everyone cross their fingers for me and my clean system. I'll keep you posted.
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01/21/09 04:21 - 20ºF - ID#47473
The Day After...
ug. i have to disagree with you. I will confess that she certainly was not the most inspiring reader on the planet, but the poem is beautiful and appropriate. also, elizabeth alexander is an extremely well known and highly regarded poet, theorist, academic, etc. perhaps it is a surprise to the (white) american public that there was a black poet reading at the inauguration that they had never heard of.
In general
"Say it plain, that many have died for this day. Sing the names of the dead who brought us here."
How many people were crying tears of joy? How many tears of pain for the many who died for that day, and I speak not of the men and women in the military, but the men and women who were brought to this country in the bowels of slave ships. who were not counted as entire human beings. who were beaten and murdered for protesting segregation. i am not being dramatic or sentimental but we have to ask ourselves what the tears are really about, and where have they been hiding? electing president obama, swearing him into office does almost nothing in the face of all that history. i kept asking myself yesterday, why... why is this such a "historical moment"? because the whites have opened the door and 'allowed' a black person in? i cried yesterday and i have to ask myself the same question. chances are there will be differing, but deeply connected answers.
i probably shouldn't have started this entry because i don't have the time to finish it properly. lets just say that i watched cnn for five hours and it made me tired. the complexities of this situation are too much for my brain and my heart to handle sometimes.
I forget who, but someone said that racism basically decides who gets to live and who gets to die.
"Say it plain, that many have died for this day."
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The kids suffer, of course. There may be some good foster homes. But the system as a whole tends to be overburdened. And as for the woman...if she cares that little about the well being of her children, then she probably doesn't care that they'll be taken away.
Despicable. But, again, she in some way "wins", assuming that a significant goal in life is to continue your line. You can't blame the children for having an irresponsible mother. So the line will not sustain a punishment worthy of whatever crime someone might think has been committed.
I'm not arguing that the line should be punished, of course. But the issue is definitely more complicated than most give it credit.
Personally, I think society might benefit from there being somewhat less emphasis on this "family line" or genetic imperative. Not having children is selfish in its own way, but then again...
Here is the thing how can one women by herself take care of 6 kids on her own. I don't mean money wise I just mean take care of them and be a decent mother one is tough enough. For anyone with kids or who knows anyone think about how much work one baby is, now you have to take care of 8.
I think she may be a "welfare mother". Yes there are single moms out there, but that isn't what I'm talking about. You have women who have a kid young and get on the system. Then to get more money they wind up having another kid by a different father (that is how they play the system) oh don't get me wrong I'm sure they have lots of fun sex nothing wrong with that along the way.
But see this brings up a bigger question what about the rights of the kid. Kids, babies and the unborn do have rights. That is why most states make late term abortions illegal. At that point the fetus is a alive and has rights. If someone ever wanted to end abortions that would be the way to do it. A living fetus has just as much right to live as a women has to control her body so who wins.....?
I don't think it is fair for the kids there life is going to suck, assuming they even live. How can you have 7 sibelings your own age and have any kind of life. I would say even with two parents with two good jobs the kids would suffer. Is it still better then being a foster kid? Well Maybe but not sure. What about the Kids rights. Why does a kid have to wear dirty clothes and be mocked at school for being the dirty kid? Or maybe mom can get nice clothes and the kid can starve and pass out in class and be the dump kid. What about the kids rights?
This woman is a thought experiment come to life. It brings up the question of what exactly society "should" value and what we really feel is fair play. And how much we truly respect wealth in this society, over pretty much any other aspect of life.
If "genetic survival", if the family line, is meant to be important in one's life, then how could you fault what this woman has done? From where she was, there is no possible way she could obtain the resources necessary to gain an edge in that survival game. When you're born poor, when you live in poor environments, it is INCREDIBLY difficult to pull yourself out of that.
So... She found a way to out-maneuver society's rules and, perhaps coincidentally, actually recieved a "survival edge". I can only laugh at the ridiculousness of it all. Though I can't help but pity the children.
But then...that's just because I can only see smaller families as preferable, somewhat due to personal experience.
As to the question of reproductive rights... This woman is a fringe case. With any question of rights, there will always be fringe cases. Especially ones which you find disgusting or are offended by.
For those that find the one-child per family law within China despicable, well... Legislation will always have its peril. You attempt to curtail something like this and someone WILL suffer. And, almost certainly, that will be the children, whether or not the progenitor(s) suffer any harm as well.
If that's ok with you just to take out some vengeance on people like her, and by extension people NOT like her but who end up in similar situations despite it, then I suppose making some nice restrictive laws will be your next logical step.
Buck v. Bell (1927) :::link::: is the Supreme Court case that upheld Virginia's forced sterilization statute. The rest of the quickly updated their forced sterilization statutes or implemented new ones. Buck v. Bell legitimized the eugenics movement in the United States. The last forced sterilization in the US was in 1981 in Oregon although the bulk of it was done before the mid-60s. :::link:::
People need to start taking in consideration whether they can properly raise the children they bring into this world. In my opinion, people should be pressured more to limit children to what they can emotionally and financially handle. Pressure in the form of counseling and subsidized sterilization offered to some women and men or birth control when wanted. I believe this counseling can be done in hospitals and should certainly have ethical guidelines that are not based on religion.
I believe the doctor who assisted this woman in having these children acted unethically. Nadya was was able to do what she wanted here but will have to face the public condemnation for her selfish actions.
1) How is she paying for IVF?
2) Who is going to pony up the $5M for this year?
3) Who is going to bear the ongoing costs?
And I've got more questions like, "Why is her crazy ass on TV arguing with her mom about fertility?" and "Why is she telling Ann Curry she's having these kids to fill an emotional childhood void?"
The simple fact is that we don't limit how many children a woman is allowed to bear. In this sense nobody's reproductive rights are threatened.
What is objectionable, and tax payers have a right to throw a shit fit about it, is that this woman is gaming the system, taking advantage of everyone else, flipping them the bird and the whole while behaving as if she's entitled to it. No sister, you're not.
If the other couples were in similar circumstances, you could make a similar value judgment. We know enough about Nadya to understand this situation is much different than a situation where people are being responsible.
Because really, what she did was irresponsible, a Dali portrait of motherhood - bankrupting your parents, forcing your neighbors to pay millions and millions over time for them and for her, as well as setting up these poor kids for what is going to be a very difficult, tough, poverty riddled life.
Yeah, the kids - what usually gets lost in the argument of whether their mother has a right to dilate and extract them, or the right to have the public be their daddy, is what is right for the kids? They might as well be set props. The Ann Curry interview was creepy, really creepy and revealing. It's all about Nadya, and all about fulfilling her own needs. No, I don't support that, and yes it should be judged harshly.
I don't know John and Kates financial situation, but they seem to be in a much better position to provide (and they started with two, then had the six, not six then eight!) Definitely NOT my thing. :)
Good stuff to think about though; thanks for the multi-dimensional thought provokers!
Yes, I am making a a value judgment, but I do believe that society owes it to the children.
Take the right to bear arms. Not necessarily the most helpful right (imho) but there in the constitution nonetheless. So I won't begrudge the person who decides to buy a gun. But do I want my tax dollars to buy one for the one who can't afford one? NOPE!
If this woman can make 8 babies on her own, that's her choice. But that doesn't mean that anybody has to assist her in getting there.
Anyway, I want to preface my statement with, I have no strong opinion on this woman with the 8 kids.
But here are somethings I think we should consider when understanding the public outrage. Time and place provides important context to this situation. She made this decision in the state of California while the state government was experiencing a serious financial crisis. Undoubtedly there will be people who are going to respond with outrage that the state can't meet its financial obligations, but is going to be providing welfare benefits to a woman who chose to have 8 kids. Talk show hosts are going to tap into that sense of outrage to increase their ratings and beat the story to death. Might have been a little bit different if it was a different time and place.
BTW, the Duggars have had their share of internet critics. People have said some awful things about the Duggars and about their religion.
American culture values self sufficiency so it makes sense that people would respond a little more negatively to a single woman who is having difficulty supporting herself, let alone her large family, versus the Duggars who generally are financially sound (the Duggars have had things donated to them, but again, donations are different than welfare).
I also think there are some ethical questions at play regarding carrying eight babies to term at the same time versus one by one like the Duggars. But that's a side topic, I suppose.