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02/05/10 01:23 - ID#50971

Recovering from Church?

So as a pastor, I serve all kinds of people. It's one of the joys of the job, working with people way to the left of me and way to the right, richer and poorer (both by quite a bit, it seems) creative and/or analytical, believers and non-, you name the "genre" of person, and they are likely part of the Elmwood Village--and thus my "parish" if not my congregation (which though small, contains a wide/weird sampling of Buffalo---and I can call us weird because I love weird).

While I love the diversity of "my parish," it seems like every pastor also ends up serving a particular population more. Dan Kimball is the only Rockabilly pastor I know of. Mark Driscoll is all about macho culture. Bill Hybels is good with Chicagoland executives, and Joel Osteen is for people that need mediocre jokes and positive thinking.

There is one "type" of person that I spend more of my time talking with than all others combined. He'she is the one on who has either been directly hurt by the church or severely disappointed with it.

The causes of the hurt may include (but are not limited to):

asking the wrong question
listening to the wrong teacher
hanging out with the wrong people
wearing the wrong clothes
liking the wrong music
voting the wrong candidate/party
liking the wrong people
being too happy
being too sad
not volunteering enough
taking over everything
questioning the status quo
questioning militarism
questioning theology
questioning a pastor/teacher/small group leader
just about any excuse will do if you are "different."

What's worse, many Christians, when the church turns on us, have nobody else to turn to. We wend up very alone.

I know that Christians are supposed to love one another and build each other up, but just today I met with four different people that were broken by the church (that I am aware of--could be more) Sure, it was an above average day--but there are still a lot of us out there. (I myself have received an evangelical "shunning" before--and I'm a regular Charlie Church!)

So with all the hurt people I've seen, perhaps there should be some specialized help, right?

But I don't know of a community out there with this particular calling/gift. Do you?

The biggest reason that this bunch does not exist is that such a community would be a gathering of Christians which is exactly what each individual has learned (through sad experience) to avoid.

But it is also the thing we crave the most. We want community--it just doesn't feel safe.

We hurt people need to know that they are not alone. We need (excuse the cliche) to tell our stories, and to know that there are people that won't hurt/hate/exclude them for whatever it was that led to them being hurt by/thrown out of their church. (Again, please forgive me if I sound like Oprah--I've been thinking about this all day, and it is late).

It seems to me that such a gathering would have to be loosely organized, but with strict rules, sort of like AA. No set leaders, but agreed upon rules that are known to be helpful for healing (and to prevent the behaviors that caused the problems in the first place). These rules would be especially needed because people that had hurt each other would likely eventually end up in the same group.

I know--strict rules are part of what may have driven us out of church. I'm not talking about a dress code. I'm talking about rules like "listen first."

As I see it, the rules would hold us to our purpose--healing for people hurt by church. (Nothing against other problems of the world out there--but this is a big enough problem to require a singular focus).

So I guess I have three questions.

1. Do you see the same need that I do?

2. Would you be willing to be a part of this group?

3. What do you think would be appropriate rules for the gathering?

If you are "out" as a hurt Christian (or the close relative--a frustrated Christian who can't find a church that has room for him/her), you may respond in the comments section, but if you would answer better anonymously, please send an email to drew@elmwoodjesus.org or a direct message.
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Category: football

01/06/10 09:25 - 20ºF - ID#50755

See Yinz later


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01/01/10 01:59 - 26ºF - ID#50711

New Year

I usually don't make a deal about the New Year, but today, I have already kept up a number of goals I have set for the New Year.

I've prayed a psalm, and the Jesus prayer (spiritual goals)

I've written for 30 minutes (not an every day goal, just 3 times a week)

I haven't eaten fast food (I get once a month). I still have to exercise 30 minutes, but I might save that for another day (also only 3x a week).

Sorry about missing the party. Sounds like it was great. (e:Janelle) and I had a nice night at home.
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12/23/09 11:22 - 24ºF - ID#50645

Phone help.

Ok, so I am always about 2 generations behind tech-wise. You can make fun of me, but I think this can work--with a bit of help.

I have the EnV phone, thanks to a generous friend who upgraded (thanks!), and a prepaid service (Page Plus) that lets me talk and text on the Verizon network.

The browser needs to be changed so that it goes through a different Proxy. Verizon set up the phones so that I couldn't change it easily, but THIS forum tells us how to re-program the phone.

The problem?

1. I don't think I am even smart enough to follow the directions it gives.

2. I don't have the cord that connects the phone to a computer.

Soooo--can any of my super-cool friends help me out? I will gladly trade any theological insight you might need (I wish I had a more marketable skill to trade. I can always purchase beverages for you though)
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Category: food

12/11/09 03:33 - 20ºF - ID#50539

Tokyo Shanghai Bistro//Hu's


Went today, around 1:30. There was no buffet. The chinese food tasted ok (I had hot and spicy shrimp, that wasn't too spicy and was too sweet), but it only contained four average size shrimp. FOUR! The hot and sour soup, however, tasted great. (e:Janelle) had a bento box and it looked a lot nicer. I am definitely going to do Japanese if I visit again there is no buffet.

Afterwards, we stopped at Hu's discount store. It is my new favorite store. Everything is affordable there. I wish I had my picture phone (will again in January), I would share pictures of cheap wires, the aforementioned four shrimp, and the tights that had jeans painted on them.

I wanted to buy shoes and sharpies and underwear and cleaning supplies, and luggage but I held back, because I didn't really need any of them and they will still be cheap when I need them.
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12/09/09 11:57 - 34ºF - ID#50521

I like Christmas parties

But I don't like Christmas. (not until Dec 24, anyway).

I like apple cider, but not apple pie, apples, or apple juice.

I like sleeping in the morning, but not going to bed at night.

I like (e:strip), but I never post.

Sorry about that.


My friend wrote a paper that had a great line.

"The church is like manure. If you spread it out, something beautiful might grow, but if you pile it up, it starts to stink."

I haven't opened a t-shirt factory or written my play, but I am going to get back to the play after Christmas, for real.


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11/03/09 10:26 - 47ºF - ID#50207

Sheriff

I do not know too much about the challenger in the Sheriff's race, but I do know that the county's holding center is messed up. The state and federal governments are suing the county for access. There are tales of people not having access to basic necessities such as toilet paper and toothpaste. There have been allegations of abuse.

Not that anybody deserves this treatment, but keep in mind that this is the HOLDING CENTER. YOU could find yourself there, even if you have not been convicted. There is no excuse to mistreat a prisoner, but it is even worse when a person has not even had a trial.

I am rarely political online, but this is a human rights issue. Vote today.
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Category: halloween

10/30/09 02:32 - 63ºF - ID#50153

Tonight

Frank Rossitano will be at the party tonight.

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10/25/09 04:27 - 52ºF - ID#50109

Plumber

Who is your favorite plumber? What's his (or her) phone number?
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Category: ideas

10/09/09 12:44 - 54ºF - ID#49971

The T-shirt factory

If American Apparel can make sweat-free T's in LA, and make a profit. Why can't the same be done in NY?

Now, I know NOTHING about t-shirt manufacture, but I do know that we have a lot of available space. I also know that we have a lot of labor. Sure, taxes are high, but they are in LA, too.

I DO know that the shirts made by American Apparel feel better than any I have ever worn, and that people will pay extra for a shirt that is comfy, cool, and local.

I also know that every entrepreneur in Buffalo has started a screen printing t-shirt shop. So why not create t's locally to sell to them?

Another con--there isn't much local cotton (or any), but right now, the average t-shirt is made with American cotton shipped to the far East. Buffalo would be a much shorter trip.

I would encourage everybody to join me in brainstorming ways to create jobs in this city. We need them.
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