Category: religion
06/06/07 12:07 - 51ºF - ID#39544
Religion: Theory and Evolution
I'll begin with something my mother once told me. It went something like
"I don't need a roof over my head to believe what I believe" in reference to going to church.
I grew up attending church. Or Sunday school at the very least. I have to confess that a great deal of my superficially religious nature had to do with the activities at the church, rather than the religion itself. My Sunday school teacher was a wealthy woman who used to set up an assortment of activities that peaked my interest. Picnics, trips to Darien Lake (what is that religious week that they have? Kingdom Bound?) We went to Toronto to see Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dream coat.
It wasn't until about tenth grade when, in my social studies class, we started to study world religions from an educational position. It was at this point that I started listening. I started quietly questioning what they were teaching me.
Throughout the years I have become very interested in religion, but from a more open minded, historical and didactic point of view. I took a course in the Bible in college and got an A. I have probably watched every program that has ever been on the History channel about religion. But my curiosity has always been in the historical rather than the religious. To be precise, the evolution of religion to what it has become today, and the theories and gospels that have been dropped along the way.
I read in a book of fiction recently (one of the slew of post - DaVinci Code religious conspiracy theory books) something that I actually found as an interesting theory. At the risk of an argument, I will summarize.
The theory went as follows: Jesus was an ordinary man who had a religious inspiration about the way to live life. It was a beautiful and inspirational way to live without judgment of others, and love for one and all. When Jesus died, he was not resurrected to walk the earth in the flesh. The resurrection of Jesus was intended to develop into the rebirth of his principles into the traditions of his followers. It was the state of the world, and the requirement for a more authoritative message that prompted for the ascension of Jesus as the Son of God, in order to generate Christianity as force to challenge the pagan religion of the Romans as well as Judaism.
Now I'm not saying that this is in fact my belief, but I will say that this speculation touches me more than the contradictory and ever evolving verses of what has become the bible. The bible is an amazing volume of poignant and moral (and not so moral) stories that serve as a guideline for living a life of love and peace. But the idea of taking said Bible and following it as if it were law is quite absurd to me. I am very much in the conviction that religion is an individual experience, not one of sheep following sheep blindly without question.
Okay on that note I'm going to stop, as I could probably go on forever, and I've probably made enough enemies for the day.
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Location: New Paltz, NY
Category: gay
06/03/07 05:43 - 80ºF - ID#39515
New Paltz Pride
the parade was today. but first.....
KITTEN!
cute as hell, I know. so anyway... on to the parade....
a truck (float) in our parade.
this was the grand marshal though i'm unsure as to who he is supposed to be.
I love these drummer women. they are an all female brazillian drummer group and they rule.
this is one of the hudson valley drag queen personalities. she is at all the gay events. i wish i cared enough to look up her name.
then after the parade came the festival in the park
i am not sure who these horses were but i loved them...
Char played later after we left.
this is qi. i wish i could describe qi, but there are no words that could possibly get you to truly wrap your mind around that which is qi. this picture, however, is probably the closest that i could put up here without legal implications. please take in the hair, the yell face, the half pointing finger and the starbucks cup of straight scotch. this is qi.
my drummer ladies played too!
which led to....
in new paltz, gay parades turn into hippie festivals...
lauren likes to dance too!
michael (one of our current fruits) came out of nowhere with a water bottle full of tanqueray and a splash of tonic.
got home and found our other fruit - steven, at home... steven doesn't do the pride thing.
so yeah those are a couple of our current fruits that we need replacing...
i'm doing something. or should be doing something now anyway.
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Location: New Paltz, NY
Category: randomo
06/02/07 06:06 - 85ºF - ID#39504
dance your cares away...
Now I have to first of all admit that I don't like the guy. And it is not just because it is her ex boyfriend, but more so because he is a genius in most everything that he does and therefore tends to be extremely pretentious. Most of the time I want to punch the pompous little prick in the face. (I'm not violent; I just wish I were sometimes). Anyway, the kid has only been painting for about 10 months, and he already has an art show. He is exceptionally good and I have to admit that there was a green little monster inside me that I was having an internal debate with for a while.
So I have decided that this evening I will grab the paintbrush and canvas and let it go. I will paint with wide-open strokes, and not tiny tentative dabs. I have spoken it, and therefore it is so.
Last night, in the car on the way home, we were discussing Buffalo, and she said, "We are going to need a new cute gay boy. I need a cute gay boy in my life!".... Okay we are fag hags. Gay men = Less drama + more fashion than a lesbians.... Applications to be our gay boy will be posted in the weeks to come.
So I see from (e:metalpeter)'s pics that last night's party was quite the enjoyable one! the pictures really helped me get a better idea of what the estrippers are all about. Also to put names with faces - though i don't know 98 % of you still...hope to see many more pics from tonight's party! I'll be sitting in my garage painting whilst you all party on up!
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Location: New Paltz, NY
Category: randomo
06/01/07 01:15 - 76ºF - ID#39492
i decorate in my sleep
Ever walk around in a store and just have a striking urge to just stick your arm out and just knock everything on a shelf onto the floor? Not that I would ever do such a thing, but I still think about it and it makes me chuckle to myself a bit.
Last night I dreamt of our buffalo apartment. It was right on elmwood and it was lovely. I don't remember much about the actual apartment, except that we had a lovely brown and light blue living room (as seen @ pier one). I only remember that it was great, and I felt wonderful living there. I hope that is a sign of great things to come.
I can't think of all those things that I thought about posting previously. So I guess I'm done.
Hope you all have a great time tonight/tomorrow! And good luck to lilho's evening goals!
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Location: New Paltz, NY
Category: work
05/30/07 05:08 - 83ºF - ID#39463
when you work at a toy factory....
So I am presently working a ten hour day in one of my stores. It is a slow store, so i usually spend the day bored/playing online. today i watched a movie online - Another Gay Movie which is a spoof on all the gay movies that are out there.
Wow there is a lot of gay sex in that movie.
So the funny thing is that here I am, watching gay sex movies at work.... and if my boss was here , he probably would just laugh at me.
The funny thing is that the owner of this company has another business. he runs this website: www.shevibe.com with his wife. so when i work in the poughkeepsie location, there is constantly shipments being delivered for his website.... and so when the owner (thor) calls me back and says 'hey your order is in' and then he waves a giant black dildo at me, i think to myself... wow... this is the greatest job ever...
if i were just reading this, i would probably be completely skeeved out by the idea of a boss waving a giant rubber dildo at their employees... but somehow here it just is hilariously the way it is...
anyway... i just thought there should be some type of indication of the fun environment in which i work..
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Location: New Paltz, NY
Category: randomo
05/28/07 10:43 - 63ºF - ID#39431
Random acts of selfish thought
We have managed to schedule a date for our next visit to Buffalo. June 18th-20th. Basically will involve waking up at the ass crack of dawn and driving for 6 hours, then Job Hunting/Apartment hunting for both the rest of Monday, as well as all day Tuesday. We will be camping too.
Yesterday I also managed to schedule in the following events.
June 1 - Art Show in Utica
June 9 - Nick's Body Building competition in Poughkeepsie
June 18-20 - Buffalo
June 22 - Concert in NYC
June 28/29 - move out (TO WHERE???)
June 30-July 1 - Campout going away party @ Kim & Jean's
July 7-8 - "the Felly & Lauren are gone!" party @ 66 south
July 22-25 - Family 'get together' @ Bear Mountain State Park.
I also got completely overwhelmed by all that is to happen and how the hell to do it all.
I realized that we have no place to store our crap for the entire month of July (if we don't get an apartment right away July 1)
I realized that I may not be able to work in July if I have already given then a July 1 leaving date.
All this and Mel decided to spend a good hour asking me why I am wasting my time selling cell phones when I am such a talented videographer. All the reasons that I managed to give to her all ended up being a steaming pile of bullshit. What it all comes down to is basically a lack of confidence. Sometimes I know i'm an awesome videographer. I can't even watch a movie without picking it apart. Then when it comes down to actually trying to prove that, I just get afraid of putting myself out there. And then I say.... All I need is ten G's and i'd be fine... I would start my own business!
blah blah blah its all bullshit.
Really though. Lauren is going to be gone for the evening so I'll spend the night painting some delicious works of art for Jess. And avoid the thought of taking control of my life yet again!
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Location: New Paltz, NY
Category: 'deep' thoughts
05/23/07 11:03 - 73ºF - ID#39386
Camp Felly
which basically means that no matter what happens, we will never be completly homeless...
maybe that is a rather bleak way of looking at the future. But seriously, it will work out wonderfully in our travels to Buf to check out apartments. We can just camp there and make it a fun little getaway. But the screwed up part is that I have a crapload of relatives in the youngstown/lockport/wilson/ransomville area up north of Buffalo. Brothers, grandparents and aunts and uncles. But really the only place that we could really stay would be my grandparents house due to circumstance.
I love my grandparents. Really I do, but with my grandpap's recent decline and the stagnant emptiness/loneliness of that house when nobody else is there... well i just don't like staying there.
And I count myself so lucky, because my gripe with not wanting to stay there has nothing to do with the fact that I am in a lesbian relationship and would be bringing my girlfriend with me. The last time we were there, they absolutely loved lauren. I am so very lucky for such a wonderful and loving family.
Alas. I love tenting. And so it shall be.
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Location: New Paltz, NY
Category: food
05/22/07 11:38 - 65ºF - ID#39374
bubble tea is being tried again...
my original post spoke of bubble tea.... here is the post without photos.
[box]I first heard of Bubble tea on here, but I was new to the estrip community so I did not voice my confusion. (what the hell is bubble tea? Bubble gum flavored tea?)
Then yesterday Wazina invited me to the City with her and Steve to have Bubble tea and do some shopping. (actually they didn't tell me they were shopping, they said 'walking around')
2 story morals here.
1. bubble tea is weird but good.
2. never shop with wazina and steven.[/box]
also saw 28 weeks later last night... not all that great...
it was as if the cameraperson was having an epilectic fit. i mean, the first one had just the right amount of fast camera pan/tilt/zoom/etcs to give you glimpses of what was going on... but this one - it was just too much... i felt cheated i guess... but then that is my videography training perhaps... i often feel cheated when watching movies...
also saw shrek 3 online.. (hehehe) and though the quality was poor, i enjoyed it immensely!
okay time for groceries.
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Location: New Paltz, NY
Category: work
05/19/07 04:05 - 59ºF - ID#39344
i'm not irritated...
my girlfriend told me that i have to calm down. i'm calm.
anyway, it just sucks and it really makes me consider this job and these people who i work for to be a lot less grand than it used to be. not that it was ever 'grand' but now i see them as a hell of a lot more shady.
good thing i have tomorrow off. Nelson asked me to work for him tomorrow and i told him ihad things to do.
i'm sad that i'm missing yard sales. i need stuff. cheap stuff, apparently, since i'm losing money.
also - i was just doing some family genealogy research and just found my grandfather in a 1920 census. he was a fireman. he lists his parents as being born in 'england'.
England?? what happened to Ireland?? I THought I was IRISH! somehow i definetely just switched heritages... how odd. not that i embraced the irish part of me much more than drinking heavily.
i need to make a visit to buffalo soon and do some job hunting.
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Location: New Paltz, NY
Category: work
05/16/07 02:10 - 51ºF - ID#39304
storms and angry lisps
Entry number one got eaten by a power outage/storm.
Entry number two was lost in a horrible backspace/back a page incident.
here we go
we just had a really crazy 5 minute storm. dark as hell, lightning, rain like a waterfall, etc... we lost power which ate my first entry. and now its gone, sun is out, and only 5 minutes have passed!
before that a fella with a lisp came in and wanted to pay his bill. being as though we are not a corporate, the only way we can accept payments is through Precash, which charges for every payment. And its cash only. So the guy just flipped out on me and then said that I was rude. I told him that he needs to chill. He demanded that I call customer service. I told him that irregardless of what customer service tells me, I cannot do something that my system physically will not allow me to do.
Where is your manager?
I am the manager.
Where is your home office?
This is the home office.
If you are not sprint then you take that sign down now!
um. no.
What are you going to tell sprint when i bring somebody from sprint into here tomorrow?
um... the same thing that i'm telling you now.
incidentally, this guy has been in this store several times before trying to do all kinds of stuff that only a corporate office can do. So he knows that I cannot do this stuff. Also he had a lisp.
I have to say that normally i am one of the most helpful and understanding persons ever, but sometimes people are so besides themselves that I have to laugh so that I don't get pissed..
and i just heated up soup which means i'm now very busy!
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Location: New Paltz, NY
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Of the four Biblical Gospels, 3 are similar, Matthew Mark and Luke. John is pretty different, and likely written at a later date. By looking at what's in the other 3, scholars have concluded that Matthew and Luke both had access to Mark and used it as a source. They also each had an independent source that nobody else used. Matthew and Luke also had a source in common, besides Mark. The Scholars called this "q" short for the German word for source. Nobody has a copy of Q, it may or may not have existed, it is our best guess.
Even the most skeptical of scholars give earlier dates to the New Testament. There are multiple attestations to it in the 2nd century.
The different translations have actually helped us understand what the early texts said. This is because most translators did not do translations of translations, but worked from the original languages. There are, of course, a few variants, and the footnotes of a scholarly Bible will point these out (Oxford NRSV is kind of the standard English translation--I can show you the best Greek if you want). Anyway, by comparing early translations, we are able to see that the Greek text was pretty well established. Almost all modern translations have gone back to those early texts, rather than doing the copy of a copy thing.
Yes, the canon was formally voted on at Nicea. However, there was wide agreement much earlier than that. If we look at the "excluded" texts, most of them were written at a later date, and by people that had no connection at all to Christ.
It's fun to look for conspiracies, but if they were being conspiratorial, they did a lousy job of it. After all, they did not do anything about the inconsistancies among the 4 gospels, or the different theologies held by Paul, John, and James. They also left letters explaining why some books were left out and others included.
Same thing about the bishops "deciding" that Christ was the son of God at Nicea. That's like saying that Newton "decided" that gravity was real when the apple hit him. The ideas had been there for a while--yes, there were people contesting them. (By the way, some argued the opposite position--that he was only divine, and not human). They weren't "decided" at Nicea, so much as "codified."
Yes, history is written by the victors, but its pretty much all we have.
As for other theories:
If Roman soldiers knew anything, they knew how to kill people.
If Jesus had a kid, SOMEONE would have mentioned him/her.
Thanks for listening.
Anyway, thanks for reading. I get into this stuff, but I know I am in the minority.
And yes, I do understand that I can be wrong on just about anything, but I have put some time and energy into this stuff.
1) The Bible (any realigous book) was written by men and not god.
2) It was supposidly written around 400 years after Jeusus died
3) It was translated into many different langauges and there are different versions of it
: For your own personal beliefs it is good to keep those things in the back of your mind but when you start to think someone isn't living the way they should then you need to think about those 3 things and understand that you might be wrong.
At the Council of Nicaea - wherein said canons of what was to be the bible were decided upon, it was decided that Jesus was the son of God.... by bishops. And even at that, it has been proven that there were many bishops that were prevented from reaching the council until after the vote had been made. But all that is another story that I will not get into right now.
Truth is a constant factor that exists at many levels; it is in our interpretation of the details that confusion exerts influence and our faiths fragment.
For myself, someone who had struggled for a long time with religion, I find peace in following the teachings of love and compassion for all, without having to adhere to the beliefs that have been outlined by various religions.
Yeah, I think denying the ressurection would rankle Christians - its one of the single most important articles of faith in all of Christianity, and most Christians would argue that beyond the ressurection being an article of faith, it is a historical fact based on documented eye-witness accounts. Ultimately, I suppose either you believe it or you don't.
To be honest though, I agree with virtually everything you wrote and am particularly interested in the historical angle.
Actually, this afternoon NPR had a panel discussion about religions role in society - slightly skewed (everybody on the panel was either liberal or a member of the "left hand of God") but still an interesting and level-headed discussion that I thought had alot of value. One of the panel members suggested that Europeans, while vastly secular, are more educated about religion than most Americans. Personally I thought this idea was counterintuitive and simply wrong, but it got me thinking about how more secularized societies than our own approach religion. Generally speaking, its my understanding that secular people are more prone to approach religion from a historical perspective. One of the more interesting historical tidbits for me is how the Roman Emperor Constantine affected the spread of Christianity - without him Christianity as it is and has been might have been vastly different. Another more controversial topic might be the Apocrypha and how the early church manipulated what the Bible would contain based on what they thought was and wasn't heretical.
For religious people... true believers, religion is (in my own view, anyway) not an intellectual exercise outside of knowing the content of the Bible. The larger meaning of the faith is contained within the experience of having a personal relationship with God. I think all religious people should at least have some understanding of other faiths, because there are some lessons to be learned and since religion has been the most powerful force in human history (for both good and bad, admittedly) the more everyone knows the better.
I also grew up attending church (e:felly) - my family are members of the United Church of Christ... one of the more liberal and gay-friendly denominations I might add. We did not grow up as members of your stereotypical "christian right," in other words, hehe.
Maybe some wouldn't admit it, but I believe everybody struggles with understanding God, or if not g-o-d then the concept of a higher power. Personally I find myself wondering alot about the concept of a loving God versus the concept of a punitive God (biggest religious topic (e:jason) and I talk about), the afterlife and whether or not the major world religions really are that mutually exclusive. I think there are some positives to take out of most religions that Christians, Buddhists, Hindus can all appreciate. You can imagine my twin brother and I with a joint talking about these religious things - sometimes they get too deep and way too theoretical, haha!
Sorry for this long comment but I'm like you - I could go on forever. When it comes to TV I'm a horrible, unrepairable History Channel/National Geographic Channel/Science Channel/Discovery Times Channel junkie.
Secondly, I agree with most of your post.
Finally, while your theory is intriguing, there isn't a lot of evidence to back it up. Because you have studied a lot, I am sure that you know that the earliest and most reliable accounts of Christ and the church were Paul's letters, and then the Biblical Gospels. I'm not saying that there weren't other books. We both know that there were others, but most of those came later.
Proving the actual resurrection is tough, but the first followers of Jesus were convinced that they saw an actual resurrected body, and were willing to (and did) die to defend that idea.
That being said, I wouldn't mind if a lot of people followed the way of Jesus for other reasons. I just don't think your theory squares well with history.