So I was watching, "So You Think You Can Dance" and the one girl who twisted her ankle and lost was so sad because she had fought for her life after a terrible wedding floor collapse accident a couple years back. So right away I googles "wedding floor collapse" and I could only find one in Jeruselem, Israrl. I thought - she was asian, it couldn't be but then I searched some more and it was. They got it all on video. It is perhaps the most horrific accident I have ever seen 23 people died. I will save you the googling, you can watch it on my journal.
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06/06/2007 22:05 #39558
The Wedding From HellCategory: accidents
06/06/2007 18:44 #39550
The book of viscoCategory: religion
In response to (e:jim,39535)
First of all I would like to say I totally support people's freedom to believe whatever they want as long as they don't get tax breaks on it and I don't have to pay for any part of it.
I hope this doesn't offend anyone but as an athiest, gay, polygamist my sheer existence is probably offense enough for most people, although, honestly - I think I pull it off with grace, pun intended.
I believe that religion does bring happiness, kindness, joy, compassion and union to many people. It standardizes and codifies the way that humans should act with one another.
It is not the only thing that can bring these emotions. Any group with a common belief system can share these feelings without a spiritual context. People having these emotions in a religious context often believe it is the spiritual aspect that causes it.
The thing about religion is that it also causes so many problems. People fight wars over religions and kill people in the name of jesus and other magicians. I know all you good christians can't believe it, but it is true. Other people kill other people for not believing in Jesus - not only that - they kill them for not believing in him, in prescribed way.
I am not the kind of athiest that screams about it. I am definitely not interested in converting other people to it, but that doesn't seem to stop so any people for trying to get me interested in their spiritual beliefs which offends the hell out of me.
That is why in fact I am an athiest, because I don't care about religion or the absense of it. I would rather describe myself as someone who never considers spiritual aspect of religion or the absense of it very much. If I never had to hear the word spiritual or religion one more time, I would not be athiest. I would be in perfect harmony, lol.
I read the bible, and I am over it - like I am over Alice and Wonderland and The Hardy Boys - learned some valuable lessons but the magic part is pretty hokey to me.
Okay, check this out - I am going to go get a random bible quote from the internet and see why I don't need the book. Here it is
Seems reasonable, guess what - I could think of it myself. I pity the people that can't think of this but I know they exist. I guess I can consider myself luckily for having the education to even consider these things. Maybe in previous times, it was necessary to have these ideas given to you.
Then I roll the die again to find:
Here we are back in magic land and there lies my problem with the book. Showing hospitality is a fine goal, contributing to the needs of the saints is questionable and sketchy. I mean who defines the needs of the saints.
Okay one more time this is too fun
This one is great but once again, I could totally think of it myself. At least it is a noble goal.
And again.
While this is freaky and dangerous. It is the basis of war.
I feel that I have the capibility to understand human interactions without guidance from people in an ancient world or divine intervention. In fact, I think it is a unfortunate that the book mixes these two messages together - the message of treating people kindly and that you need to believe in the power of the mighty magic wizard, his halfling son and their sidekick ghost. It seems like the message could be much more powerful divorced from the book. Why can't human interaction and social etiquette be secular? I mean why not distill the bible down into a smaller book of ways to live your life without the spiritual bullshit.
I have seen so many people fall down the slippery slope of having their life suck because they were a bad person, then turning to church, the people they meet are nice and kind and then - bang they are in magic land and keep asking me to come visit it - when I wasn't having any problems in the first place.
CONCLUSION
I just had a brilliant realization while writing this. aybe I will change the world. I am going to create a new religion based on the Paul Visco interpretation of the bible. See, you think I am joking but what I plan to do is take the magic out of the bible. Same great book, less agic. That way the next time someone tries to tell me the magic book is really about a moral code about how to treat other people, I can say - no that book is full of magic sdtories, what you need is the Visco Bible.
First of all I would like to say I totally support people's freedom to believe whatever they want as long as they don't get tax breaks on it and I don't have to pay for any part of it.
I hope this doesn't offend anyone but as an athiest, gay, polygamist my sheer existence is probably offense enough for most people, although, honestly - I think I pull it off with grace, pun intended.
I believe that religion does bring happiness, kindness, joy, compassion and union to many people. It standardizes and codifies the way that humans should act with one another.
It is not the only thing that can bring these emotions. Any group with a common belief system can share these feelings without a spiritual context. People having these emotions in a religious context often believe it is the spiritual aspect that causes it.
The thing about religion is that it also causes so many problems. People fight wars over religions and kill people in the name of jesus and other magicians. I know all you good christians can't believe it, but it is true. Other people kill other people for not believing in Jesus - not only that - they kill them for not believing in him, in prescribed way.
I am not the kind of athiest that screams about it. I am definitely not interested in converting other people to it, but that doesn't seem to stop so any people for trying to get me interested in their spiritual beliefs which offends the hell out of me.
That is why in fact I am an athiest, because I don't care about religion or the absense of it. I would rather describe myself as someone who never considers spiritual aspect of religion or the absense of it very much. If I never had to hear the word spiritual or religion one more time, I would not be athiest. I would be in perfect harmony, lol.
I read the bible, and I am over it - like I am over Alice and Wonderland and The Hardy Boys - learned some valuable lessons but the magic part is pretty hokey to me.
Okay, check this out - I am going to go get a random bible quote from the internet and see why I don't need the book. Here it is
Galatians 5:22-23
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law."
Seems reasonable, guess what - I could think of it myself. I pity the people that can't think of this but I know they exist. I guess I can consider myself luckily for having the education to even consider these things. Maybe in previous times, it was necessary to have these ideas given to you.
Then I roll the die again to find:
"Romans 12:13
Contribute to the needs of the saints and seek to show hospitality."
Here we are back in magic land and there lies my problem with the book. Showing hospitality is a fine goal, contributing to the needs of the saints is questionable and sketchy. I mean who defines the needs of the saints.
Okay one more time this is too fun
Thessalonians 5:15
See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone.
This one is great but once again, I could totally think of it myself. At least it is a noble goal.
And again.
Samuel 2:2
"There is none holy like the LORD; there is none besides you; there is no rock like our God."
While this is freaky and dangerous. It is the basis of war.
I feel that I have the capibility to understand human interactions without guidance from people in an ancient world or divine intervention. In fact, I think it is a unfortunate that the book mixes these two messages together - the message of treating people kindly and that you need to believe in the power of the mighty magic wizard, his halfling son and their sidekick ghost. It seems like the message could be much more powerful divorced from the book. Why can't human interaction and social etiquette be secular? I mean why not distill the bible down into a smaller book of ways to live your life without the spiritual bullshit.
I have seen so many people fall down the slippery slope of having their life suck because they were a bad person, then turning to church, the people they meet are nice and kind and then - bang they are in magic land and keep asking me to come visit it - when I wasn't having any problems in the first place.
CONCLUSION
I just had a brilliant realization while writing this. aybe I will change the world. I am going to create a new religion based on the Paul Visco interpretation of the bible. See, you think I am joking but what I plan to do is take the magic out of the bible. Same great book, less agic. That way the next time someone tries to tell me the magic book is really about a moral code about how to treat other people, I can say - no that book is full of magic sdtories, what you need is the Visco Bible.
jim - 06/06/07 23:27
Should I feel bad to stir things up like this?
By journal #100 I'll be inciting riots.
Should I feel bad to stir things up like this?
By journal #100 I'll be inciting riots.
paul - 06/06/07 23:10
That is fantastic, saves me time. I am really Jealous with a capital "J" of Thomas Jefferson :::link::: . He had so much time to think and so much independent wealth to allow him to do as he pleased.
That is fantastic, saves me time. I am really Jealous with a capital "J" of Thomas Jefferson :::link::: . He had so much time to think and so much independent wealth to allow him to do as he pleased.
drew - 06/06/07 21:10
Thomas Jefferson beat you to it! He took out his scissors and made his own, "magic free" Bible.
I'll do a longer post on my own page later tonight.
Thomas Jefferson beat you to it! He took out his scissors and made his own, "magic free" Bible.
I'll do a longer post on my own page later tonight.
metalpeter - 06/06/07 19:37
I just need to clear one thing up Spirtuality and Realigon are not the same thing. Yes sometimes they can be but a lot of realigous people believe spritual things are evil. Some of those things would include Dreamcatchers, oujia boards, Terrot Cards, or anything along those lines. One can believe that there is no god but that there is this something like a soul or a spirit that makes us more then who we are as a body alone. Two examples from science that could suggest that there is something there is that the Famous Goat who was cloned had problems and died. It could be that the science was bad and that there isn't all the info we need about life yet. Or maybe there is something about being born that you need some kind of life force. The other example is 21 grams. Yeah I know they made an entire movie based on this fact, that I never saw. But supposidly when you die your body weight drops by 21 grams. There could be ways to explain it like that when you body is alive it is making things and you are bringing in air and that the act of you not being alive anymore is what causes that to happen. Or it could be that your soul or lifeforce leaves you and that is the weight. You can also belive in mother nature and that there is a balance to life and earth and have it not mean anything about god. For example the world is over populated and polution is killing the earth and all the animals. So that is why there are all these killer storms as a way to make the earth healthy. You can also believe that is why there is Diesse. That it is a way to kill off people so that the world doesn't become over populated. AIDS is an epicdemic really it is just that it isn't thought of that way because the HIV Virus kills people off slowly in stead of quickly. But that in terms of the virus is a good thing (bad for humans) because you can spread it and spread it and spread it before you know you have it. If you belive what you read and hear with out help it may destroy all of Africa. Yes one could make this realigous and say it happens because they are a godless country (all of them) we will go help them and give them god and medicine and they will follow us. But you can also just think that AIDS is a way to help kill off all the people who are destroying the world. Ok so maybe this should have been a post and not one paragraph but I think my point was kinda made.
I just need to clear one thing up Spirtuality and Realigon are not the same thing. Yes sometimes they can be but a lot of realigous people believe spritual things are evil. Some of those things would include Dreamcatchers, oujia boards, Terrot Cards, or anything along those lines. One can believe that there is no god but that there is this something like a soul or a spirit that makes us more then who we are as a body alone. Two examples from science that could suggest that there is something there is that the Famous Goat who was cloned had problems and died. It could be that the science was bad and that there isn't all the info we need about life yet. Or maybe there is something about being born that you need some kind of life force. The other example is 21 grams. Yeah I know they made an entire movie based on this fact, that I never saw. But supposidly when you die your body weight drops by 21 grams. There could be ways to explain it like that when you body is alive it is making things and you are bringing in air and that the act of you not being alive anymore is what causes that to happen. Or it could be that your soul or lifeforce leaves you and that is the weight. You can also belive in mother nature and that there is a balance to life and earth and have it not mean anything about god. For example the world is over populated and polution is killing the earth and all the animals. So that is why there are all these killer storms as a way to make the earth healthy. You can also believe that is why there is Diesse. That it is a way to kill off people so that the world doesn't become over populated. AIDS is an epicdemic really it is just that it isn't thought of that way because the HIV Virus kills people off slowly in stead of quickly. But that in terms of the virus is a good thing (bad for humans) because you can spread it and spread it and spread it before you know you have it. If you belive what you read and hear with out help it may destroy all of Africa. Yes one could make this realigous and say it happens because they are a godless country (all of them) we will go help them and give them god and medicine and they will follow us. But you can also just think that AIDS is a way to help kill off all the people who are destroying the world. Ok so maybe this should have been a post and not one paragraph but I think my point was kinda made.
fellyconnelly - 06/06/07 19:28
thats it. from now on when asked to label my religious convictions, I'll say i'm a Visco! it has a nice ring to it...
I can't leave religion alone though... i'm so interested in the history of it all...
thats it. from now on when asked to label my religious convictions, I'll say i'm a Visco! it has a nice ring to it...
I can't leave religion alone though... i'm so interested in the history of it all...
jenks - 06/06/07 19:10
sign me up!
that's kind of what i was trying to say. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you... do not murder... do not cheat... do not steal... all wonderful messages. But virgin births and dead bodies coming back to life and ghosts in heaven dictating my future... sorry... i just can't buy it. No offense. But what can I say... I'm a scientist.
sign me up!
that's kind of what i was trying to say. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you... do not murder... do not cheat... do not steal... all wonderful messages. But virgin births and dead bodies coming back to life and ghosts in heaven dictating my future... sorry... i just can't buy it. No offense. But what can I say... I'm a scientist.
06/06/2007 17:40 #39549
Surebert 3.0Category: programming
06/05/2007 09:53 #39530
The macbook proCategory: computers
They have finally released the new macbook pro
As someone said on the macrumors forum, "Great specs, same price, im loving it! " This means that once I get it my life can return to normal and I can become an even more productive programer/designer. I can finally go back to 3D design which will in turn let me make lots of fun icons for my projects. I will also be able to check windows and mac/linux all on the same machine. It's like a web designers dream come true.
I am so curious what the LED backlit display will be like. The only thing I am kind of disappointed that the system looks the same as the old one. I was hoping for some reason it would be shiny brown. To bad it couldn't come with a new operating system. Guess I'll have to wait until October for that.
As someone said on the macrumors forum, "Great specs, same price, im loving it! " This means that once I get it my life can return to normal and I can become an even more productive programer/designer. I can finally go back to 3D design which will in turn let me make lots of fun icons for my projects. I will also be able to check windows and mac/linux all on the same machine. It's like a web designers dream come true.
I am so curious what the LED backlit display will be like. The only thing I am kind of disappointed that the system looks the same as the old one. I was hoping for some reason it would be shiny brown. To bad it couldn't come with a new operating system. Guess I'll have to wait until October for that.
jim - 06/05/07 15:00
The iMacs remain conspicuously un-upgraded. Maybe they'll get new enclosures?
The iMacs remain conspicuously un-upgraded. Maybe they'll get new enclosures?
jenks - 06/05/07 11:04
i know people are doing brown [the zune... hahah hohoho... ] but it just seems very un-apple to me. But jun 29?! How did I miss that announcement?! Thanks.
i know people are doing brown [the zune... hahah hohoho... ] but it just seems very un-apple to me. But jun 29?! How did I miss that announcement?! Thanks.
carolinian - 06/05/07 11:01
See, I told you to wait. :)
If you want a new operating system, one option you have is to pay the $500 to join Apple's developer program, which gets you a preview copy of Leopard (the next OS in beta) plus $500 off a macbook pro that you get from Apple's developer purchase program. So in other words, you pay the same amount of money if you go through the developer program, and you end up with next-generation stuff you can test estrip and roswell stuff against. You'll also get the latest updates the current OS and, I'll have to double check on this, I think you also get a copy of os x tiger server.
See, I told you to wait. :)
If you want a new operating system, one option you have is to pay the $500 to join Apple's developer program, which gets you a preview copy of Leopard (the next OS in beta) plus $500 off a macbook pro that you get from Apple's developer purchase program. So in other words, you pay the same amount of money if you go through the developer program, and you end up with next-generation stuff you can test estrip and roswell stuff against. You'll also get the latest updates the current OS and, I'll have to double check on this, I think you also get a copy of os x tiger server.
jim - 06/05/07 10:37
You left out the best part - up to 4GB of memory.
OWC has a 2gb stick for $120.00 - that seems almost too cheap to be true.
:::link:::
You left out the best part - up to 4GB of memory.
OWC has a 2gb stick for $120.00 - that seems almost too cheap to be true.
:::link:::
paul - 06/05/07 10:01
Brown will be the new black. Sony is already making them :::link:::
The iphone is being released on June 29th. Apple announced it the other day.
Brown will be the new black. Sony is already making them :::link:::
The iphone is being released on June 29th. Apple announced it the other day.
jenks - 06/05/07 09:56
shiny BROWN? Are you nuts?! :)
but ok, the new macbook's out- i want to know where the iphone is! they said june!
shiny BROWN? Are you nuts?! :)
but ok, the new macbook's out- i want to know where the iphone is! they said june!
06/02/2007 21:10 #39506
The lilho going away partyCategory: party
Before the party
This bird was so dead.
What the heck are all these iDVR stickers and signs everywhere. I like the idea of giving out temporary tattoos but was it seems like they all just end up on the floor group, I found hundreds of them downtown.
(e:enknot) at the (e:lilho) hair studio
where (e:imk2) got extensions that looked so real
I know this is so not right, but I am totally sick of these peaceprint birds everywhere. It just sees like such a stupid slogan and I always think it is a euphemism for poop.
If the (e:ladycroft) going away party wasn't tonight I would have gone to this.
The party was pretty nuts. We ended up having 65 people according to (e:lilho) 's countdown. I would post the list but she made up funny, inappropriate names for some people.
Some highlights
Holy crap - (e:metalpeter) looks so different without a beard.
Hallways are much more visible from outside at night.
Here are some pics although I didn't get many, I do have an hour long video that I can probably never post.
Put the banner up
Chris Haight got "cake" in (e:mike)'s face somehow.
Thanks (e:carolinian) for all the mojito stuff. I have never seen so many limes in one place.
Giving robert and company a tour of the house, we could only see the unfinished side of the attic by camera flash. They had plenty of theories about the cage.
The end of the night video - such a waste of alcohol
This bird was so dead.
What the heck are all these iDVR stickers and signs everywhere. I like the idea of giving out temporary tattoos but was it seems like they all just end up on the floor group, I found hundreds of them downtown.
(e:enknot) at the (e:lilho) hair studio
where (e:imk2) got extensions that looked so real
I know this is so not right, but I am totally sick of these peaceprint birds everywhere. It just sees like such a stupid slogan and I always think it is a euphemism for poop.
If the (e:ladycroft) going away party wasn't tonight I would have gone to this.
The party was pretty nuts. We ended up having 65 people according to (e:lilho) 's countdown. I would post the list but she made up funny, inappropriate names for some people.
Some highlights
Holy crap - (e:metalpeter) looks so different without a beard.
Hallways are much more visible from outside at night.
Here are some pics although I didn't get many, I do have an hour long video that I can probably never post.
Put the banner up
Chris Haight got "cake" in (e:mike)'s face somehow.
Thanks (e:carolinian) for all the mojito stuff. I have never seen so many limes in one place.
Giving robert and company a tour of the house, we could only see the unfinished side of the attic by camera flash. They had plenty of theories about the cage.
The end of the night video - such a waste of alcohol
paul - 04/11/10 21:16
Oh, remember yvonne?
Oh, remember yvonne?
fellyconnelly - 06/03/07 16:35
paul: thats the beauty of alcohol... it kills germs! (thats what i tell myself)
paul: thats the beauty of alcohol... it kills germs! (thats what i tell myself)
metalpeter - 06/03/07 10:46
I mistyped current owner should have read previous owner meaning the people you bought the house from not you guys sorry that was unclear. And On a side note nice pictures of (e:imk2).
I mistyped current owner should have read previous owner meaning the people you bought the house from not you guys sorry that was unclear. And On a side note nice pictures of (e:imk2).
metalpeter - 06/03/07 10:33
How could I forget about that cage. My mind wants to think that it was up there for dirty reasons. But then my mind also thinks that maybe it predates the current owners and goes back to the church days and maybe the detained people. Or who knows maybe it was there animals when they went away. I never made it to the jungle juice, I knew there was no way I could handle all that alcohol. Would I be correct to assume that the fruit absorbed the alcohol and now is a special snack. Hey maybe that would be a good idea for someone to make lots of money on somehow. Alcohol drenched fruit. It is good for you and can get you buzzed. It is to bad you had to waste it but I really don't think you want that sitting around either.
How could I forget about that cage. My mind wants to think that it was up there for dirty reasons. But then my mind also thinks that maybe it predates the current owners and goes back to the church days and maybe the detained people. Or who knows maybe it was there animals when they went away. I never made it to the jungle juice, I knew there was no way I could handle all that alcohol. Would I be correct to assume that the fruit absorbed the alcohol and now is a special snack. Hey maybe that would be a good idea for someone to make lots of money on somehow. Alcohol drenched fruit. It is good for you and can get you buzzed. It is to bad you had to waste it but I really don't think you want that sitting around either.
paul - 06/02/07 22:38
(e:lilho) and I wanted to save the alcohol but some dude convinced us it was disgusting because so many people had their hands in it.
(e:lilho) and I wanted to save the alcohol but some dude convinced us it was disgusting because so many people had their hands in it.
fellyconnelly - 06/02/07 22:16
that was full of alcohol? you could have saved that for tonight!
that was full of alcohol? you could have saved that for tonight!
holy hell that was absolutely terrifying!
oh
my
god
:( :(