While I did spend most of my five days off doing house work on the properties, we did end up going hiking at Zoar Valley for memorial day.
(e:terry) hiking down the gorge
Racing through trying not to drop the camera
The car that didn't make it down the road.
The cliffs are beautiful as always.
As is the confluence you have to cross to get to the waterfall and the island where the nudists are.
This time we crossed half the creek over a fallen tree.
The water fall is my favorite place.
Some guy was sun bathing at the bottom of the cliff when a rock slide happened. He didn't move fast enough and got covered in the fallout dust.
Here, you can see that tiny vanilla color spot in the pic above was a naked dude.
In the end we met up with a lot of naked people. We previously had heard rumors that you couldn't go naked there anymore. Didn't stop Dave and I. (e:terry) and (e:matthew) remained clothed but there are no pics of any of that this year yet.
Here I am crossing the creek on the way home
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05/30/2007 00:57 #39450
Zoar Valley HikingCategory: hiking
05/23/2007 22:06 #39395
American Express CommercialCategory: television
I just watched this american express commercial where this slightly post skater-looking slaker kid gets bored in San Diego or wherever and looks up skiing on the net. He then decides he need to go where it is snowing to go skiing and flys to utah, where he meets some people who tell him to go to Canada where there is even better snow. The canadians say the real storm in Japan - so off to japan. The japanese tell him the real skiing is in Norway, then off to go to italy where he gets a text message that the surfs up in maui. Each time he flys to the location and skiis.
Each time he flys with "points." At the end he says I need a card that gets me places - and thats why my card is american express. Mind you, the ad was playing during final American Idol episode.
Is this not a way of luring in young people to spend a fortune on credit cards and rack up ridiculous debt.
Holy crap. I would never think I would see the most tacky rendition of a beetles medley on American Idol where they got together and sang Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds. I wonder if that is what people thought when they heard the beetles sing it.
Followed by:
Oh, I get by with a little help from my friends
Mm, I get high with a little help from my friends
Mm, gonna try with a little help from my friends
Yes I get by with a little help from my friends
With a little help from my friends
I feel like (e:mike) 's Dare censor must be going off.
American idol had a record 74 million votes for Jordan Sparks who won this moment.
Each time he flys with "points." At the end he says I need a card that gets me places - and thats why my card is american express. Mind you, the ad was playing during final American Idol episode.
Is this not a way of luring in young people to spend a fortune on credit cards and rack up ridiculous debt.
Holy crap. I would never think I would see the most tacky rendition of a beetles medley on American Idol where they got together and sang Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds. I wonder if that is what people thought when they heard the beetles sing it.
Followed by:
Oh, I get by with a little help from my friends
Mm, I get high with a little help from my friends
Mm, gonna try with a little help from my friends
Yes I get by with a little help from my friends
With a little help from my friends
I feel like (e:mike) 's Dare censor must be going off.
American idol had a record 74 million votes for Jordan Sparks who won this moment.
imk2 - 05/26/07 22:33
i dont know ajay, we flew round trip on FF points last year to china. three people in the middle of summer vacation completely free from buffalo to china. i cant even imagine what that would have cost us had we had to pay. not too much trouble booking the flights. just went online, played around with some dates and voila! just had to book the vacation first and then decide on my vacation days off. there is no way it would have worked if i had a set time off.
in addition, we stayed in a 5 star hotel on points, and because we were platinum point members, everyone had free breakfast (delicious, upscale buffet) and access to the concierge lounge with free hors d'oeuvres and alcohol.
that was the cheapest vacation ever, yet the most luxurious. i wouldn't call them a complete rip off. not as easy to utilize as if you were paying, but free never is, nor do i expect it to be.
i dont know ajay, we flew round trip on FF points last year to china. three people in the middle of summer vacation completely free from buffalo to china. i cant even imagine what that would have cost us had we had to pay. not too much trouble booking the flights. just went online, played around with some dates and voila! just had to book the vacation first and then decide on my vacation days off. there is no way it would have worked if i had a set time off.
in addition, we stayed in a 5 star hotel on points, and because we were platinum point members, everyone had free breakfast (delicious, upscale buffet) and access to the concierge lounge with free hors d'oeuvres and alcohol.
that was the cheapest vacation ever, yet the most luxurious. i wouldn't call them a complete rip off. not as easy to utilize as if you were paying, but free never is, nor do i expect it to be.
ajay - 05/26/07 19:38
The points thing and FF miles are the biggest scam around.
I once tried to book a RT ticket to Santa Fe, NM. Booking the flight directly, it was a 1-stop flight. If I tried to use FF miles, the airline sent me from here to Chicago, then from there to Dallas, and then to Santa Fe, taking a whole day with 5-hour layovers. Clearly they like it when you rack up FF miles; but they hate it when you actually try to use them.
The points thing and FF miles are the biggest scam around.
I once tried to book a RT ticket to Santa Fe, NM. Booking the flight directly, it was a 1-stop flight. If I tried to use FF miles, the airline sent me from here to Chicago, then from there to Dallas, and then to Santa Fe, taking a whole day with 5-hour layovers. Clearly they like it when you rack up FF miles; but they hate it when you actually try to use them.
dcoffee - 05/25/07 18:28
That's bad, it reminds me of another american express commercial that used the beatles song "all you need is love" totally inappropriate. the motto of a credit card company should be "all you need is Stuff! lots of it, more than you can afford"
terrible
That's bad, it reminds me of another american express commercial that used the beatles song "all you need is love" totally inappropriate. the motto of a credit card company should be "all you need is Stuff! lots of it, more than you can afford"
terrible
jsl - 05/25/07 11:46
The joys of consumer culture... rack up a huge debt while burning tons of jet fuel. Typical, and disturbing. :(
The joys of consumer culture... rack up a huge debt while burning tons of jet fuel. Typical, and disturbing. :(
metalpeter - 05/24/07 18:39
It is funny that you mentioned this ad during a show where they did Beatles songs. Shawn White is an amazing athlete. I wonder if they planed it that way be cause he has a movie called "The White Movie" and the cover is all white. I do have that DVD but don't have a picture of it. I do think the ad is aimed at kids and trying to get them to get a credit card. But I think it is also aimed at people who all ready have them to get them to switch to a card that has a better incentive program. I used to have a "Blue" American Express card. It was pretty it was white and had a Blue reflective piece on the front and had all sorts of security stuff I didn't understand. At the time it was aimed at students and it was the only American Express Card that you didn't have to pay all of it at the end of one billing cycle. That is how they used to all work you paid a percentage on what you bought and then paid them back all that money it wasn't like Visa and Mastercards where you have a minimum payment and can take forever to pay it back. To be an american express cardholder used to be like being in a special club and they had special travel packages and benifits and all kinds of stuff. I don't know if they are still that way of being a "Rich Man's" Credit card. I guess that is why they have rich Celbirties as there spokes people. The only one draw back to that is that the viewer knows that there is no reason why this person needs a credit card at all.
It is funny that you mentioned this ad during a show where they did Beatles songs. Shawn White is an amazing athlete. I wonder if they planed it that way be cause he has a movie called "The White Movie" and the cover is all white. I do have that DVD but don't have a picture of it. I do think the ad is aimed at kids and trying to get them to get a credit card. But I think it is also aimed at people who all ready have them to get them to switch to a card that has a better incentive program. I used to have a "Blue" American Express card. It was pretty it was white and had a Blue reflective piece on the front and had all sorts of security stuff I didn't understand. At the time it was aimed at students and it was the only American Express Card that you didn't have to pay all of it at the end of one billing cycle. That is how they used to all work you paid a percentage on what you bought and then paid them back all that money it wasn't like Visa and Mastercards where you have a minimum payment and can take forever to pay it back. To be an american express cardholder used to be like being in a special club and they had special travel packages and benifits and all kinds of stuff. I don't know if they are still that way of being a "Rich Man's" Credit card. I guess that is why they have rich Celbirties as there spokes people. The only one draw back to that is that the viewer knows that there is no reason why this person needs a credit card at all.
mike - 05/24/07 12:09
beep beep beep...drug song...warning...this song is about drugs ...this message brought to you by DARE and officer penky
beep beep beep...drug song...warning...this song is about drugs ...this message brought to you by DARE and officer penky
paul - 05/24/07 09:05
That makes so much more sense then.
That makes so much more sense then.
jason - 05/24/07 08:30
He is one of the best skateboarders and snowboarders in the world, and has won medals for us in the winter Olympics. He was one of those freak talents who went pro really young.
He is one of the best skateboarders and snowboarders in the world, and has won medals for us in the winter Olympics. He was one of those freak talents who went pro really young.
mk - 05/23/07 22:38
I thought it was very funny when they were all rocking out on "Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds." They were all getting soooo into it like it was this hip, fresh tune.
By the way, Better Midler was AWFUL!!!!
I thought it was very funny when they were all rocking out on "Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds." They were all getting soooo into it like it was this hip, fresh tune.
By the way, Better Midler was AWFUL!!!!
05/23/2007 19:21 #39394
My HouseCategory: linwood
Maybe it is pretentious but I love sitting on the porch wacthing people go by while pointing at the house and smiling. It almost makes the $6000 in taxes/year worth it.
Wegmans has gelato now. It is delicious.
The new baby squirrel likes the porch too.
Wegmans has gelato now. It is delicious.
The new baby squirrel likes the porch too.
metalpeter - 05/24/07 18:27
My apartment includes Heat and the way it works at my place and I think a lot of others is that I have radiator heat. I also have no control over it. It is set between 68-72 Degrees. I believe that it is less expensive to heat a house that way then with gas and vents. I think they work by heating water and then them being hot keeps the place warm, but not sure.
My apartment includes Heat and the way it works at my place and I think a lot of others is that I have radiator heat. I also have no control over it. It is set between 68-72 Degrees. I believe that it is less expensive to heat a house that way then with gas and vents. I think they work by heating water and then them being hot keeps the place warm, but not sure.
paul - 05/24/07 14:39
This is a new baby. It went unnoted because (e:matthew) hasn't been posting. I kept wanting to post about it but I wanted to give him the chance to and he didn't. it is more his baby than mine, he feeds it all day long. It is realy freakin cute in person.
This is a new baby. It went unnoted because (e:matthew) hasn't been posting. I kept wanting to post about it but I wanted to give him the chance to and he didn't. it is more his baby than mine, he feeds it all day long. It is realy freakin cute in person.
kara - 05/24/07 08:57
I love weggie's gelato. They'll give you two flavors in one bowl if you ask nicely - chocolate + butter pecan = yummy.
I love weggie's gelato. They'll give you two flavors in one bowl if you ask nicely - chocolate + butter pecan = yummy.
leetee - 05/23/07 23:54
I thought something happened to the baby... didn't you say mom pushed out the baby or something? Or is this a new baby. Inquiring minds want to know.
I thought something happened to the baby... didn't you say mom pushed out the baby or something? Or is this a new baby. Inquiring minds want to know.
jenks - 05/23/07 23:32
[and tiny- that's not the house he's talking about. that's his 'other' house. ;) the house he's proud of is on linwood, and just check paul's journal; there are plenty of pix.] [it really is pride-worthy, though.]
[and tiny- that's not the house he's talking about. that's his 'other' house. ;) the house he's proud of is on linwood, and just check paul's journal; there are plenty of pix.] [it really is pride-worthy, though.]
jenks - 05/23/07 23:30
aha! I knew there was something I was meaning to ask, and you reminded me!
How did I not know there is a baby squirrel?!!!! I never even knew mom was pregnant! paul, how did such a huge thing go un-posted?! tsk tsk!
aha! I knew there was something I was meaning to ask, and you reminded me!
How did I not know there is a baby squirrel?!!!! I never even knew mom was pregnant! paul, how did such a huge thing go un-posted?! tsk tsk!
fellyconnelly - 05/23/07 23:02
hopefully i'll find a landlord that is that much of a sucker!
hopefully i'll find a landlord that is that much of a sucker!
paul - 05/23/07 22:21
Oh, that's without utilities. Holy crap, I don't get how landlords can offer apartments with utilities. I would always be terrified of the tenants turning the heat way up in the winter. Maybe if the heating prices were more reasonable I could see it.
Oh, that's without utilities. Holy crap, I don't get how landlords can offer apartments with utilities. I would always be terrified of the tenants turning the heat way up in the winter. Maybe if the heating prices were more reasonable I could see it.
tinypliny - 05/23/07 20:53
oops. sorry. I scrolled down and found the house. And wow! I would point and smile too.
$575 for a 3 bedroom with utilities? And you are having trouble finding reliable tenants?? That's unbelievable. I have been crawling the apartment market for sometime now and I can tell you that price is waaaay lower that the rest of the market! It's about 1.4 miles from Roswell and falls slightly above my distance limit, however, I think I might contact you if I fail to find any 1BR/Studios within a mile radius by end of June 1st week, if that's ok. (I have a good credit history and can provide you with excellent references from my current landlady of 2 years.)
oops. sorry. I scrolled down and found the house. And wow! I would point and smile too.
$575 for a 3 bedroom with utilities? And you are having trouble finding reliable tenants?? That's unbelievable. I have been crawling the apartment market for sometime now and I can tell you that price is waaaay lower that the rest of the market! It's about 1.4 miles from Roswell and falls slightly above my distance limit, however, I think I might contact you if I fail to find any 1BR/Studios within a mile radius by end of June 1st week, if that's ok. (I have a good credit history and can provide you with excellent references from my current landlady of 2 years.)
paul - 05/23/07 20:51
There are pics in :::link:::
Speaking of the house. the next party is Saturday, June 9th for (e:lilho)'s graduation from buffalo.
There are pics in :::link:::
Speaking of the house. the next party is Saturday, June 9th for (e:lilho)'s graduation from buffalo.
mrdeadlier - 05/23/07 20:05
nice shirt
nice shirt
05/23/2007 09:34 #39384
What war are we in nowCategory: war
I just saw thi on google news:
What is the war now if not the Iraq war. I wonder when they study this in History class how they will explainhat George Bush declared the war over at least 4 years before the troops were done fighting. It seems like a holdover from the past that if you capture the leader of another country, the war is over. Did that ever ean anything?
Nine US warships in Gulf for show of force
Reuters Canada - 38 minutes ago
By Mohammed Abbas. ABOARD USS JOHN C. STENNIS (Reuters) - The largest daytime assembly of US warships in the Gulf since the 2003 Iraq war prepared on Wednesday to hold drills off Iran's coast in a major US show of force that unnerved oil markets.
What is the war now if not the Iraq war. I wonder when they study this in History class how they will explainhat George Bush declared the war over at least 4 years before the troops were done fighting. It seems like a holdover from the past that if you capture the leader of another country, the war is over. Did that ever ean anything?
metalpeter - 05/23/07 17:43
We Beat the country of Iraq's Army and disbanded them and found Sadam and the people exacuted him so the war has been over for a long time. We are now occuping the country. We knew how to win the war but not what to do once it was won. The US had no idea how to get the country to govern itself after it lost the war. I would call what is going on a civil war or maybe even more correctly terrorism. Or maybe it isn't terorism maybe the rebels who weren't part of the army are now fighting us and each other. Not to mention anyone who dosn't like the US or the ocupation can now come to IRAQ and attack American Troops.
We Beat the country of Iraq's Army and disbanded them and found Sadam and the people exacuted him so the war has been over for a long time. We are now occuping the country. We knew how to win the war but not what to do once it was won. The US had no idea how to get the country to govern itself after it lost the war. I would call what is going on a civil war or maybe even more correctly terrorism. Or maybe it isn't terorism maybe the rebels who weren't part of the army are now fighting us and each other. Not to mention anyone who dosn't like the US or the ocupation can now come to IRAQ and attack American Troops.
joshua - 05/23/07 16:38
Well, when it comes to pot I have to admit that I'm biased - I think it should be legalized, controlled (as much as possible anyway) and taxed. As far as I can see there is no war on drugs anymore.
The reverse logic (less terror if we prosecute the GWOT less) is completely counterintuitive.
Well, when it comes to pot I have to admit that I'm biased - I think it should be legalized, controlled (as much as possible anyway) and taxed. As far as I can see there is no war on drugs anymore.
The reverse logic (less terror if we prosecute the GWOT less) is completely counterintuitive.
ajay - 05/23/07 15:59
"... the GWOT will be continuing for a long time it seems...."
Just like the "GWOD". How long has that lasted? A huge machinery created for something that cannot be finished. We're spending over $1 BILLION a year incarcerating people for pot-related crimes; and God knows how much on interdiction of pot. And pot use has only gone up. Hope the same doesn't hold true for "GWOT" ...
"... the GWOT will be continuing for a long time it seems...."
Just like the "GWOD". How long has that lasted? A huge machinery created for something that cannot be finished. We're spending over $1 BILLION a year incarcerating people for pot-related crimes; and God knows how much on interdiction of pot. And pot use has only gone up. Hope the same doesn't hold true for "GWOT" ...
joshua - 05/23/07 13:07
Many Republicans are holding out to see through the end of the surge tactic - otherwise theres no political will to continue that I can see. This particular war in Iraq will probably last into the next presidency but I doubt that it will go along much further. However, the "GWOT" will be continuing for a long time it seems.
Many Republicans are holding out to see through the end of the surge tactic - otherwise theres no political will to continue that I can see. This particular war in Iraq will probably last into the next presidency but I doubt that it will go along much further. However, the "GWOT" will be continuing for a long time it seems.
james - 05/23/07 11:18
I am not sure how different this war will be treated than Vietnam. There are differences for sure, but the two stack up neatly together.
1) Both are being fought against an abstract, communism and terrorism
2) Both are unwinable in a conventional war. We killed Saddam/blew up North Vietnam, but still haven't won anything.
3) Both were useless wars fought on the periphery of a broader conflict. Ahem.
I do hope that unlike Vietnam this was is contained in one presidency and doesn't have the scope from Kennedy through Ford.
I am not sure how different this war will be treated than Vietnam. There are differences for sure, but the two stack up neatly together.
1) Both are being fought against an abstract, communism and terrorism
2) Both are unwinable in a conventional war. We killed Saddam/blew up North Vietnam, but still haven't won anything.
3) Both were useless wars fought on the periphery of a broader conflict. Ahem.
I do hope that unlike Vietnam this was is contained in one presidency and doesn't have the scope from Kennedy through Ford.
joshua - 05/23/07 11:15
War is never that simple.
I'm not particularly sure why they are doing military exercises, but to be honest since we are at war in the region I'm not particularly surprised or alarmed. We're not going to war with Iran anytime soon. We're actually holding talks with them very soon, which hasn't happened in almost 30 years.
The "mission accomplished" thing was an embarrassment - everybody knew that the war wasn't over at that time.
War is never that simple.
I'm not particularly sure why they are doing military exercises, but to be honest since we are at war in the region I'm not particularly surprised or alarmed. We're not going to war with Iran anytime soon. We're actually holding talks with them very soon, which hasn't happened in almost 30 years.
The "mission accomplished" thing was an embarrassment - everybody knew that the war wasn't over at that time.
05/26/2007 12:21 #39415
The worst dining experience everCategory: food
(e:lilho) helped me paint and cut the bushes at the rental property so I promised her I would go dress shopping to get her party dress for our party this Friday - everyone is invited (e:lilho,39406) .
At the same time I promised (e:terry) I would pick him up from work. And (e:terry) promised (e:matthew) we would go out to eat. So seeing as (e:terry) works near the galleria, we decided to try the Cheesecake Factory - big freakin' mistake. I was definitely the worst dining experience of my life and the other patrons around us.
But first the other stuff.
implosion
Did anyone hear the implosion conducted by Dykon this morning of the Kaleida Building on 50 High Street - about a block away from us. If I hadn't gotten a warning email from Roswell, I would have probably had a heart attack this morning at 6:00am when the implosion went off. It was everything I imagined an earthquake would be.
Gelatto
Here is a better pic of the Wegman's Gellato. It tastes even better than it looks and it is very inexpensive compared to the place on Hertel. The kiddie size is plenty for me and it costs only $1.79.
Ants
And onto ants? Is this an ant, maybe a queen ant? It was trolling around in our front lawn the other day. I wanted to change the film speed so I could get a better pic but it was moving so fast I had no time.
At the Mall
I ate apple gum balls outside the apple store. They were yummy but ine dropped on the floor and some Police laughed at me. I hope (e:Carolinian) is right about the macbook pro upgrade at the WWDC, I cannot wait to own a new one.
The mall is so freaking full of gay porn looking advertisements. I was drawn up this guys short legs and into Hollister.
Where (e:Terry) got a cowboy shirt. So I guess it worked.
(e:lilho) got a dress at a store called "Forever Under 21", they had these crazy plastic shoes.
I had a conversation with someone (can't remember who) last week about seashell balls and they didn't know what I was talking about - this is what I meant whoever you are.
Back to the Cheesecake Factory in the Galleria
First of all it's not worth it to go to an expensive restaurant that serves like 300 people. There are so many expensive restaurants that can give you really great food and service and that is bound to suffer when trying to serve so many people. I hated it so much there are no pictures of the food!
proximity
I also don't like how close you have to sit to other people. I felt like I was in a cafeteria, even though it was visually pleasing to look at.
Waiting to Order
But still I think our waitress was probably the slowest, deafest, rudest, most incompetent waitress I have ever had. When we first got there, the girls next to us ordered cheesecake. After waiting what seemed like an eternity they got the wrong flavor. I thought, okay no big deal but after another 20 minutes went by with no water or drinks I was getting really irritated.
The menus
Then came the menus. Now you all know how I feel about advertising but this is sent me over the edge. At a place where a meal costs ~$20 per plate, it is outrageously tacky to have every other page of the menu be a full page color advertisement. Now lets pretend for a second they were advertisements for other restaurants owned by the same people or even food, or even the mall - but they were not. There was an advertisement for plastic surgery and cruises. Plastic fucking surgery. Who is like, "yes I would like a double order of chocolate fudge pie - and honey maybe we can schedule me an appointment for a face life tomorrow?"
The people on the other side
As we go over the menu, the couple next to us freaks out because the guy ordered pork and it was raw in the middle. Raw, I saw it, it was raw - it was pork. I think we learned in home economics in middle school that pork should never be raw because of trichinosis.
The girl's brocolli was also not cooked. At least that is safe. The manager comes over they get comped.
The Appetziers
They were delicious at least something worked. At this point (e:terry) order a second beer ($6.50 each)
The food
So the food arrives and all the pasta is really overcooked. Like so overcooked it is a ball of dough again. (E:lilho)'s was definately the worst. I mean if you paid like $5 for it you could overlook it. But when you paid $19.50 for a pasta meal and it is disgusting, that is actionable. So (e:lilho) requeste dthe waitress who requested the manager. He gave us this whole spiel about how at the cheesecake factory everything is of utmost quality, blah blah. Then he offers (e:lilho) a new meal. She agress but says, just don't have them spit in it. At that point he goes into disaster recovery mode and kneels down to tell us about ho there are camera everywhere and that could never happen. She is like, it happens everywhere and he leaves to go get her a new meal.
The Water
Finally, the water comes. I am almost done with my meal at this point. She also says to (e:terry) - "let me check and see if that beer is ready." As if it had to brew.
Dessert
So she brings us the fucking advertisment leaflet again to see if we want any dessert at this point. Seeing we are at the cheesecake factory, eLilho wants cheesecake but the waitress never coes back for so long that (e:lilho) just went up and ordered it for herself at the dessert counter.
The Waitress
So the waitress finally comes back with the bill and get this. The beer (e:terry) ordered before the meal came. But what made that even more fun was that the beer was on the bill 4 times. Yes 4x $6.50 even though he only had two and one had just arrived after the bill. When he questioned the woman, she says - I at least brought you three. We were indeed very angry at this point, so the manager came back and the waitress left crying and with a $5 tip on $120 meal - and that is with (e:lilho) getting her meal comped and the 2 beers being removed - and minus the cheesecake which was paid separately.
Conclusion
I a never eating in a chain restaurant like that again. If I want to drop that kind of cash on a meal, I will most certainly choose Left Bank, The ChopHouse, Hutches, frankly anywhere else.
They can't even bother to have their website set up.
Registrant:
Saeed, Amir
5520 west 190th St # 210
Torrance, CA 90503
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At the same time I promised (e:terry) I would pick him up from work. And (e:terry) promised (e:matthew) we would go out to eat. So seeing as (e:terry) works near the galleria, we decided to try the Cheesecake Factory - big freakin' mistake. I was definitely the worst dining experience of my life and the other patrons around us.
But first the other stuff.
implosion
Did anyone hear the implosion conducted by Dykon this morning of the Kaleida Building on 50 High Street - about a block away from us. If I hadn't gotten a warning email from Roswell, I would have probably had a heart attack this morning at 6:00am when the implosion went off. It was everything I imagined an earthquake would be.
Gelatto
Here is a better pic of the Wegman's Gellato. It tastes even better than it looks and it is very inexpensive compared to the place on Hertel. The kiddie size is plenty for me and it costs only $1.79.
Ants
And onto ants? Is this an ant, maybe a queen ant? It was trolling around in our front lawn the other day. I wanted to change the film speed so I could get a better pic but it was moving so fast I had no time.
At the Mall
I ate apple gum balls outside the apple store. They were yummy but ine dropped on the floor and some Police laughed at me. I hope (e:Carolinian) is right about the macbook pro upgrade at the WWDC, I cannot wait to own a new one.
The mall is so freaking full of gay porn looking advertisements. I was drawn up this guys short legs and into Hollister.
Where (e:Terry) got a cowboy shirt. So I guess it worked.
(e:lilho) got a dress at a store called "Forever Under 21", they had these crazy plastic shoes.
I had a conversation with someone (can't remember who) last week about seashell balls and they didn't know what I was talking about - this is what I meant whoever you are.
Back to the Cheesecake Factory in the Galleria
First of all it's not worth it to go to an expensive restaurant that serves like 300 people. There are so many expensive restaurants that can give you really great food and service and that is bound to suffer when trying to serve so many people. I hated it so much there are no pictures of the food!
proximity
I also don't like how close you have to sit to other people. I felt like I was in a cafeteria, even though it was visually pleasing to look at.
Waiting to Order
But still I think our waitress was probably the slowest, deafest, rudest, most incompetent waitress I have ever had. When we first got there, the girls next to us ordered cheesecake. After waiting what seemed like an eternity they got the wrong flavor. I thought, okay no big deal but after another 20 minutes went by with no water or drinks I was getting really irritated.
The menus
Then came the menus. Now you all know how I feel about advertising but this is sent me over the edge. At a place where a meal costs ~$20 per plate, it is outrageously tacky to have every other page of the menu be a full page color advertisement. Now lets pretend for a second they were advertisements for other restaurants owned by the same people or even food, or even the mall - but they were not. There was an advertisement for plastic surgery and cruises. Plastic fucking surgery. Who is like, "yes I would like a double order of chocolate fudge pie - and honey maybe we can schedule me an appointment for a face life tomorrow?"
The people on the other side
As we go over the menu, the couple next to us freaks out because the guy ordered pork and it was raw in the middle. Raw, I saw it, it was raw - it was pork. I think we learned in home economics in middle school that pork should never be raw because of trichinosis.
The girl's brocolli was also not cooked. At least that is safe. The manager comes over they get comped.
The Appetziers
They were delicious at least something worked. At this point (e:terry) order a second beer ($6.50 each)
The food
So the food arrives and all the pasta is really overcooked. Like so overcooked it is a ball of dough again. (E:lilho)'s was definately the worst. I mean if you paid like $5 for it you could overlook it. But when you paid $19.50 for a pasta meal and it is disgusting, that is actionable. So (e:lilho) requeste dthe waitress who requested the manager. He gave us this whole spiel about how at the cheesecake factory everything is of utmost quality, blah blah. Then he offers (e:lilho) a new meal. She agress but says, just don't have them spit in it. At that point he goes into disaster recovery mode and kneels down to tell us about ho there are camera everywhere and that could never happen. She is like, it happens everywhere and he leaves to go get her a new meal.
The Water
Finally, the water comes. I am almost done with my meal at this point. She also says to (e:terry) - "let me check and see if that beer is ready." As if it had to brew.
Dessert
So she brings us the fucking advertisment leaflet again to see if we want any dessert at this point. Seeing we are at the cheesecake factory, eLilho wants cheesecake but the waitress never coes back for so long that (e:lilho) just went up and ordered it for herself at the dessert counter.
The Waitress
So the waitress finally comes back with the bill and get this. The beer (e:terry) ordered before the meal came. But what made that even more fun was that the beer was on the bill 4 times. Yes 4x $6.50 even though he only had two and one had just arrived after the bill. When he questioned the woman, she says - I at least brought you three. We were indeed very angry at this point, so the manager came back and the waitress left crying and with a $5 tip on $120 meal - and that is with (e:lilho) getting her meal comped and the 2 beers being removed - and minus the cheesecake which was paid separately.
Conclusion
I a never eating in a chain restaurant like that again. If I want to drop that kind of cash on a meal, I will most certainly choose Left Bank, The ChopHouse, Hutches, frankly anywhere else.
They can't even bother to have their website set up.
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joshua - 05/30/07 09:39
OMG this is weird - I could probably get to that address without a map or directions. Random!
OMG this is weird - I could probably get to that address without a map or directions. Random!
jason - 05/30/07 08:55
I am not so anti-advertising as you Paul but really that menu advertising was ridiculous, and way WAY over the line. Then again, we're talking about a damn chain joint, and about suburbanites who really are considering plastic surgery.
Thanks for the entry - I'll never go there.
I am not so anti-advertising as you Paul but really that menu advertising was ridiculous, and way WAY over the line. Then again, we're talking about a damn chain joint, and about suburbanites who really are considering plastic surgery.
Thanks for the entry - I'll never go there.
jsl - 05/30/07 08:49
Cheesecake Factory sounds pretty lame. In general I try to stay away from restaurants in malls. There are too many non-chain restaurants to enjoy that the chain places aren't worth it. I also heard somewhere that the amount of calories in a Cheesecake Factory meal was exhorbitant.
Cheesecake Factory sounds pretty lame. In general I try to stay away from restaurants in malls. There are too many non-chain restaurants to enjoy that the chain places aren't worth it. I also heard somewhere that the amount of calories in a Cheesecake Factory meal was exhorbitant.
metalpeter - 05/26/07 18:53
I forgot to mention the implosion I read about that in the business section and thought it would be cool to see. Did anyone here see it or film it or get pictures of it?
I forgot to mention the implosion I read about that in the business section and thought it would be cool to see. Did anyone here see it or film it or get pictures of it?
metalpeter - 05/26/07 18:51
First of all I will be there on friday I'm sure it will be a good time and lots of flashes will be going off.
In terms of the cheesecake factory I'm not going to defend them. But what I will say is that I don't know if you got a bad waitress or an overworked waitress or a little bit of both. Food being over done and underdone is a bad sign. It sounds to me like they are cutting corners by having the place understaffed that would explain the problems of both you and the people next to you. Just because you had a bad time there don't hold that against all chains. I think they run the place like it is A Chessecake place, that is fine if dessert is all you sell. But when you have dinners then maybe you have to do things differently. I think they need to get rid of the food and stay with the sweet stuff only.
First of all I will be there on friday I'm sure it will be a good time and lots of flashes will be going off.
In terms of the cheesecake factory I'm not going to defend them. But what I will say is that I don't know if you got a bad waitress or an overworked waitress or a little bit of both. Food being over done and underdone is a bad sign. It sounds to me like they are cutting corners by having the place understaffed that would explain the problems of both you and the people next to you. Just because you had a bad time there don't hold that against all chains. I think they run the place like it is A Chessecake place, that is fine if dessert is all you sell. But when you have dinners then maybe you have to do things differently. I think they need to get rid of the food and stay with the sweet stuff only.
theecarey - 05/26/07 17:51
gelato at Wegmans? I'm in. I hope they all have them. mmmmm
I'd of had a heart attack if I heard the implosion in the early am. Well, anytime; but while sleeping? omg, how scary!
gelato at Wegmans? I'm in. I hope they all have them. mmmmm
I'd of had a heart attack if I heard the implosion in the early am. Well, anytime; but while sleeping? omg, how scary!
joshua - 05/26/07 15:42
Wow - I have to admit, I haven't heard a horror story like this in a long time.
Everything that I've heard tells me that I should never, ever go to this place. Considering how much of a capital project the whole mall restaurant thing is/has been, this is a complete disaster!
Wow - I have to admit, I haven't heard a horror story like this in a long time.
Everything that I've heard tells me that I should never, ever go to this place. Considering how much of a capital project the whole mall restaurant thing is/has been, this is a complete disaster!
carolinian - 05/26/07 15:04
Well, I hope I'm right, too, although the only person who really knows whether I'm right is Steve Jobs; one of the things that's really frustrating about Apple is that they never tell you what they're doing, so any planning for the future is made really hard. Heres way I figure it:
If I'm wrong and the same model macbook pro that existed before WWDC is the same model that exists afterwards, then all I've done is just postpone buying the thing for another 20 days.
If I'm right and I buy before WWDC, then I end up cheating myself out of having a machine that has better stuff.
Sorry about your dining experiences. At first I thought you guys were setting your standards too high, and then I saw the pictures of the menu advertisements. Business establishments doing advertising for unrelated business establishments really sets off my "corporate moronism" warning system. I have to wonder whether several months ago there was a discussion in some boardroom about creating a "faster, leaner" business with less waiters or about the how it wasn't necessary to roll out some computerized system to better manage customer orders.
Well, I hope I'm right, too, although the only person who really knows whether I'm right is Steve Jobs; one of the things that's really frustrating about Apple is that they never tell you what they're doing, so any planning for the future is made really hard. Heres way I figure it:
If I'm wrong and the same model macbook pro that existed before WWDC is the same model that exists afterwards, then all I've done is just postpone buying the thing for another 20 days.
If I'm right and I buy before WWDC, then I end up cheating myself out of having a machine that has better stuff.
Sorry about your dining experiences. At first I thought you guys were setting your standards too high, and then I saw the pictures of the menu advertisements. Business establishments doing advertising for unrelated business establishments really sets off my "corporate moronism" warning system. I have to wonder whether several months ago there was a discussion in some boardroom about creating a "faster, leaner" business with less waiters or about the how it wasn't necessary to roll out some computerized system to better manage customer orders.
mike - 05/26/07 13:40
yeah me and (e:maureen) went there and our experience was not bad like that except our like 2.5 hour wait that they kept saying would be like 5 more minutes but never was.....there are too many good places to go to waste going out to eat at a place like that.
yeah me and (e:maureen) went there and our experience was not bad like that except our like 2.5 hour wait that they kept saying would be like 5 more minutes but never was.....there are too many good places to go to waste going out to eat at a place like that.
jenks - 05/26/07 13:02
wow... my experience wasn't THAT bad, but i've always thought the place is overrated. True, the portions are HUGE, and what i've had there (monster salads) has been decent. But every cheesecake factory I've been to has like a two hour wait, which I totally don't understand, and refuse to do.
And yeah, the menu is a freaking BOOK and is ridiculous.
(and I work with Dr. Sherris's partners sometimes, but i agree, the ads are tacky tacky gross yuck)
wow... my experience wasn't THAT bad, but i've always thought the place is overrated. True, the portions are HUGE, and what i've had there (monster salads) has been decent. But every cheesecake factory I've been to has like a two hour wait, which I totally don't understand, and refuse to do.
And yeah, the menu is a freaking BOOK and is ridiculous.
(and I work with Dr. Sherris's partners sometimes, but i agree, the ads are tacky tacky gross yuck)
thats what i have too, and i am always taking video that makes me dizzy.... or perhaps i'm just the dizzy one... but its beautiful all the same
It's not a video camera just a tiny point and shoot so its hard to take video and move.
please remind me when i move there to find out where this is and how to get there.... it's VERY pretty!
also - that first video made me slightly dizzy....