mobile10/07/04 09:38 - ID#30422
Not sure what you want...
-dan jumps into band journal-
I've thought about this a hundred times since monday. How to tell you what happened but without bringing any unnecessary drama to a situation that, in my opinion, was squashed the night it happened.
So I'll just tell you my perspective of it and why it happened.
We were having what I would call a good band practice, I was having a lot of fun at least. I was also drinking gin. Not that this has any bearing on what happened in my opinion, but the aftermath I did say some things that were pretty fucked up but I felt like I was being attacked verbally at that point, and especially when I'm drinking I'll let a verbal barrage come out in full force.
So nick was only gonna be able to jam for another 20 mins and I had thought we had covered everything in practice that we needed to cover. Not that we plan out a practice but I thought the purpose of the practice was to finish up some songs for a demo, and we had gone over the songs that we were going to use for a demo. So then we started playing songs just to jam them out (my perspective), and so nick can hear them again, cause he's only practiced with us a couple times. So I went upstairs for a recycling of the fluids, some going out, some going in. Well they stated playing without me, so I came downstairs and jumped into the song, and they stopped. So we started it again, and it got fucked up, so after some jib jab back and forth we started it up again. Now at this point I just started riffin off the song, stuff I thought sounded good. I could see the looks from bill and jay like what is he doing. We do this a lot, little looks back and forth. Anyways they stop and this is when everything went haywire.
After I was told to stop ruining "my" song ( i won't say who said that but you know who you are) I said some stuff about somebody learning their scales they'd realize I was playing a really cool riff. Then I was told that they couldn't play when I play like that. That's when I pulled my plug and said fine you can't play with me fuck you guys I'm done. That's when the real hurtful stuff rolled out of my mouth. I'll tell you why. These guys want to be in a band that can vary it up, I don't like the word jam band because it conjours up images of 20 minute songs, but essential an improv musical group where we can riff off each other and change up the songs. Well if we never practice different things how do we know if it will fit. Then to be told that they couldn't play when I was improving was just the nail in the coffin.
Being told that they couldn't play with my riff because they felt it was out of place and out of time was not only hurtful, but it goes against everything they want to become. So I told them I was getting tired of playing these songs anyways. Which came out wrong cause I was drunk, I wanted to say I'm tired of just playing the songs regular, I wanted to jam it out a little, but by then everyone was already yelling...well except nick he wasn't yelling....then I was told that leaving practice was a bitch move. Boom!!! I blew up. Well on several occasions band mates have threatened to quit the band if their demands weren't met, I wasn't quitting I was only finished with practice for the day. So I saw my leaving band practice as less of big deal than my band mates.
So anyways we pretty much talked everything out that night, but I'll tell you I was so pissed at them that I couldn't remember why I had walked out until yesterday. Saying hey dan take it down a notch we want nick to learn this one, or dan we want to really work on this one...those are things to say to your drunk bassist...telling him you can't play with him when he's doing "stuff like that" will only elicit a response of the plug being pulled.
So who knows if this will lead to more drama, I hope we are past my chapter. I wanted to explain to them as well as you a little better
ab
out what happened. I apologized to bill and jay for walking out, nick sorry I know you come all the way out to practice, and you were sick on top of it.
This will happen with a band who lives together, we're only people.
-dan goes back to his job that he's been ignoring for an hour-
I've thought about this a hundred times since monday. How to tell you what happened but without bringing any unnecessary drama to a situation that, in my opinion, was squashed the night it happened.
So I'll just tell you my perspective of it and why it happened.
We were having what I would call a good band practice, I was having a lot of fun at least. I was also drinking gin. Not that this has any bearing on what happened in my opinion, but the aftermath I did say some things that were pretty fucked up but I felt like I was being attacked verbally at that point, and especially when I'm drinking I'll let a verbal barrage come out in full force.
So nick was only gonna be able to jam for another 20 mins and I had thought we had covered everything in practice that we needed to cover. Not that we plan out a practice but I thought the purpose of the practice was to finish up some songs for a demo, and we had gone over the songs that we were going to use for a demo. So then we started playing songs just to jam them out (my perspective), and so nick can hear them again, cause he's only practiced with us a couple times. So I went upstairs for a recycling of the fluids, some going out, some going in. Well they stated playing without me, so I came downstairs and jumped into the song, and they stopped. So we started it again, and it got fucked up, so after some jib jab back and forth we started it up again. Now at this point I just started riffin off the song, stuff I thought sounded good. I could see the looks from bill and jay like what is he doing. We do this a lot, little looks back and forth. Anyways they stop and this is when everything went haywire.
After I was told to stop ruining "my" song ( i won't say who said that but you know who you are) I said some stuff about somebody learning their scales they'd realize I was playing a really cool riff. Then I was told that they couldn't play when I play like that. That's when I pulled my plug and said fine you can't play with me fuck you guys I'm done. That's when the real hurtful stuff rolled out of my mouth. I'll tell you why. These guys want to be in a band that can vary it up, I don't like the word jam band because it conjours up images of 20 minute songs, but essential an improv musical group where we can riff off each other and change up the songs. Well if we never practice different things how do we know if it will fit. Then to be told that they couldn't play when I was improving was just the nail in the coffin.
Being told that they couldn't play with my riff because they felt it was out of place and out of time was not only hurtful, but it goes against everything they want to become. So I told them I was getting tired of playing these songs anyways. Which came out wrong cause I was drunk, I wanted to say I'm tired of just playing the songs regular, I wanted to jam it out a little, but by then everyone was already yelling...well except nick he wasn't yelling....then I was told that leaving practice was a bitch move. Boom!!! I blew up. Well on several occasions band mates have threatened to quit the band if their demands weren't met, I wasn't quitting I was only finished with practice for the day. So I saw my leaving band practice as less of big deal than my band mates.
So anyways we pretty much talked everything out that night, but I'll tell you I was so pissed at them that I couldn't remember why I had walked out until yesterday. Saying hey dan take it down a notch we want nick to learn this one, or dan we want to really work on this one...those are things to say to your drunk bassist...telling him you can't play with him when he's doing "stuff like that" will only elicit a response of the plug being pulled.
So who knows if this will lead to more drama, I hope we are past my chapter. I wanted to explain to them as well as you a little better
ab
out what happened. I apologized to bill and jay for walking out, nick sorry I know you come all the way out to practice, and you were sick on top of it.
This will happen with a band who lives together, we're only people.
-dan goes back to his job that he's been ignoring for an hour-
Permalink: Not_sure_what_you_want_.html
Words: 824
Location: Buffalo, NY
10/05/04 01:52 - ID#30421
Sorry Nick
Everybody duck, Mt. Saint North Park just erupted. Details at eleven.
But don't worry, we're ok.
But don't worry, we're ok.
Permalink: Sorry_Nick.html
Words: 19
Location: Buffalo, NY
10/04/04 02:41 - ID#30420
Strange Weekend!!!!!
What's up Elmwood? I have finally returned back to the strip to speak my piece on the situations that have been taking place over the past week or two. I'll start with Dan's party. It was a great time except for the police showing up about 20 minutes after we started to play. WE have always had problems with our next door neighbors and I think as soon as they heard us playing they tried to sabotage our party. Luckily, the cop that came by was real cool and told us that as long as we played in the garage with the door closed everything would be fine. So we moved our gear in to the garage and had a great time playing for everybody! I wanna especially thank Dan's friends from the radio station for all of there kind words when we were done playing. They seemed to really enjoy themselves and that made my night!. Now on tho picture drama with Billy. We discussed it later that night (after a ridiculous reaction to my request. No offense Billy!!!) and everything worked themselves out like usual. I want to apologize for taking down entry's that you worked hard on! I never looked at it that way and I should have. It's 11:11 and I wish for forgivness.......! So I would now like to take this time to encourage everyone not to drink and drive and speed unlicensed, unregistered, uninsured and in another state. We'll just say that I could be rotting in prison right now if it was'nt for a real cool cop (and we all now how rare they are to come by). Finally tonight we are gonna get a full band practice going . It seems like it been so long since we all practiced together I am starting to get over anxcious. Alright I am getting yelled at by my boss so I gotta go. Sound clips for everyone soon thanks for staying updated!!!
Later Elmwood
P.S Sorry for any spelling errors I was in a hurry!!
Later Elmwood
P.S Sorry for any spelling errors I was in a hurry!!
Permalink: Strange_Weekend_.html
Words: 342
Location: Buffalo, NY
10/02/04 02:22 - ID#30419
You must stay tuned!
The overconfident guy says:
Everyone in NPP has access to this journal. Therefore, one of us may write something, and a half hour later someone else must take it down. Or I might post a really funny pic and then take it down before any of the band has a chance to see it (heehee). Or we may add comments to an existing journal, none of which bumps up our standing on the strip.
My advice to you is to check NParkProject on a regular basis. Like 12 times a day.
Question for our future and present listeners:
What do you want to hear and see on our journal?
email us your answers
or email us if you want us to walk down elmwood and play as we walk down elmwood
billy checks out
Everyone in NPP has access to this journal. Therefore, one of us may write something, and a half hour later someone else must take it down. Or I might post a really funny pic and then take it down before any of the band has a chance to see it (heehee). Or we may add comments to an existing journal, none of which bumps up our standing on the strip.
My advice to you is to check NParkProject on a regular basis. Like 12 times a day.
Question for our future and present listeners:
What do you want to hear and see on our journal?
email us your answers
or email us if you want us to walk down elmwood and play as we walk down elmwood
billy checks out
Permalink: You_must_stay_tuned_.html
Words: 139
Location: Buffalo, NY
09/29/04 05:59 - ID#30418
Just saying "whats up"
-nick signs on again-
Whats up folks?
Just wanted to say whats going on to all of the people on the elmwood strip!
Hopefully NPP will be getting together this weekend to go over some songs and decide what's going to go on the future demo.
My friend Matty might be able to hook us up with a good deal in the studio he built in his basement...I'll have to talk to jay, bill & dan about it...
-nick rolls out-
Whats up folks?
Just wanted to say whats going on to all of the people on the elmwood strip!
Hopefully NPP will be getting together this weekend to go over some songs and decide what's going to go on the future demo.
My friend Matty might be able to hook us up with a good deal in the studio he built in his basement...I'll have to talk to jay, bill & dan about it...
-nick rolls out-
Permalink: Just_saying_quot_whats_up_quot_.html
Words: 82
Location: Buffalo, NY
09/29/04 12:06 - ID#30417
Some behind the scenes stuff
-dan stomps in-
Jay and Bill are being bitches, and since I'm in the middle since I live in the same housing structure as them I'll tell you the drama which has unfolded...then folded back up. Jay was pissed that bill put a picture of him online. So Jay erased it. Then Bill got pissed that Jay had enough time to log on and erase his picture but not enough time to write a journal entry. So Bill went and changed the password to this journal and put the picture back up.
While most bands are arguing because they are alcoholics or drug addicts my band argues because they are girls and don't want their pictures on the internet. Guess what I don't like my picture either. I'm leaving it up. The other one I had to take down because it could've meant my job.
Anyways I think those two douchebags solved their problems tonight before I came to work. The picture was taken down, and we need to ask permission on any picture that's put up. We are moving ahead. We're think practice either sat or sun. We're gonna finish up some songs for a demo so we can play out. A demo is key to getting gigs. We need one.
-dan leaves feeling better that he vented-
Jay and Bill are being bitches, and since I'm in the middle since I live in the same housing structure as them I'll tell you the drama which has unfolded...then folded back up. Jay was pissed that bill put a picture of him online. So Jay erased it. Then Bill got pissed that Jay had enough time to log on and erase his picture but not enough time to write a journal entry. So Bill went and changed the password to this journal and put the picture back up.
While most bands are arguing because they are alcoholics or drug addicts my band argues because they are girls and don't want their pictures on the internet. Guess what I don't like my picture either. I'm leaving it up. The other one I had to take down because it could've meant my job.
Anyways I think those two douchebags solved their problems tonight before I came to work. The picture was taken down, and we need to ask permission on any picture that's put up. We are moving ahead. We're think practice either sat or sun. We're gonna finish up some songs for a demo so we can play out. A demo is key to getting gigs. We need one.
-dan leaves feeling better that he vented-
Permalink: Some_behind_the_scenes_stuff.html
Words: 223
Location: Buffalo, NY
09/28/04 01:22 - ID#30416
Nick Signing on...
-Nick signs on...-
Hello folks...My name is Nick and I'm that dude playing the drums.
Just want to let everybody know that I love the band and I am looking forward to jamming/recording/playing out/etc. with NPP.
You down with NPP? Yeah you know me!
We have only jammed together 3 times and I can already tell that this is going to be something amazing...
That's all for now...I'll post again soon!
-Nick signs off for now...-
Hello folks...My name is Nick and I'm that dude playing the drums.
Just want to let everybody know that I love the band and I am looking forward to jamming/recording/playing out/etc. with NPP.
You down with NPP? Yeah you know me!
We have only jammed together 3 times and I can already tell that this is going to be something amazing...
That's all for now...I'll post again soon!
-Nick signs off for now...-
Permalink: Nick_Signing_on_.html
Words: 81
Location: Buffalo, NY
09/25/04 04:22 - ID#30415
Today
-dan slowly opens his thoughts-
So in just under 16 and a half hours the band will make it's debut with a drummer, to a select audience of friends and family at my new apartment. Bill, Jay and I had a quickie jam today to try and figure out some endings and figure out which songs we're going to play, looks like the set list will be
Sunshine
Now
Micheal Shea's
Kate
hills of tomorrow
UVO (ultra-vection-oven jam)
Bitter End
I'd like to do them in that order too, but I guess we'll talk about that later today.
eh I have nothing else to write
-dan's mind curls back up into a ball-
So in just under 16 and a half hours the band will make it's debut with a drummer, to a select audience of friends and family at my new apartment. Bill, Jay and I had a quickie jam today to try and figure out some endings and figure out which songs we're going to play, looks like the set list will be
Sunshine
Now
Micheal Shea's
Kate
hills of tomorrow
UVO (ultra-vection-oven jam)
Bitter End
I'd like to do them in that order too, but I guess we'll talk about that later today.
eh I have nothing else to write
-dan's mind curls back up into a ball-
Permalink: Today.html
Words: 115
Location: Buffalo, NY
09/23/04 02:35 - ID#30414
Jay comes out of hiding
What's up everyone! Sorry I hav'net wrote anything in a while I just never get around to it. So Nick (the drummer) kicks ass!!!! He brings in unbelievable drum beats and almost complete's the songs. Real cool guy too, Thumbs up all around!! Anyway I guess we are playing Saturday, I'm all for it, it's just when Dan showed me the flyer I was taken back by the thought of him posting them all over town. A momentary lapse of confidence that I to often encounter. My bandmates commented that the new song is great.... I could'nt agree more. It's all come together so quickly. As soon as I can figure out how to down load a sound bite(?) I want everyone to hear it. Even if our kind of music is'nt your thing I think that this song has something about it that everyone can like or relate to. I really look forward to hearing feedback. Well it's time for me to go back to work but hopefully soon I can come back to everyone with some audio. Later
Jay crawls back under his rock :(
Jay crawls back under his rock :(
Permalink: Jay_comes_out_of_hiding.html
Words: 189
Location: Buffalo, NY
09/23/04 08:40 - ID#30413
Playing my party
-Dan jumps in-
Thought I'd update this while I still have the caffeine coursing through my veins. Nick came over and jammed again tuesday and I thought it was a really good session. I mentioned about having a get-together (party) on saturday to him, and he was all about playing it. He figured we could probably do a 5 song set or something. I know we have at least 4 songs down. We never worked on the endings on a couple of them, but i think we could probably squeak out another 2 or three songs after that four. So as long as nick feels comfortable doing it, I'm down with it.
When I showed Jay the flyer I was going to pass out at work, he was a little taken a back. He was like... oh we're really gonna play . I thought it was a given, we had been talking about playing it, even if we didn't have a drummer. I'm going to be the nervous one because these are all my friends and co-workers, especially the co-workers, these people have no idea who I am. It's like that mtv's "diary of dan", "...you think you know but you have no idea".
I hope bill realizes we are playing.... 8* ;)
-dan rolls out-
Thought I'd update this while I still have the caffeine coursing through my veins. Nick came over and jammed again tuesday and I thought it was a really good session. I mentioned about having a get-together (party) on saturday to him, and he was all about playing it. He figured we could probably do a 5 song set or something. I know we have at least 4 songs down. We never worked on the endings on a couple of them, but i think we could probably squeak out another 2 or three songs after that four. So as long as nick feels comfortable doing it, I'm down with it.
When I showed Jay the flyer I was going to pass out at work, he was a little taken a back. He was like... oh we're really gonna play . I thought it was a given, we had been talking about playing it, even if we didn't have a drummer. I'm going to be the nervous one because these are all my friends and co-workers, especially the co-workers, these people have no idea who I am. It's like that mtv's "diary of dan", "...you think you know but you have no idea".
I hope bill realizes we are playing.... 8* ;)
-dan rolls out-
Permalink: Playing_my_party.html
Words: 219
Location: Buffalo, NY
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