Maybe you've heard of this, maybe you haven't:
AIG, after receiving their bailout, sent their executives on a $400,000 vacation at a posh resort in California. Here's the invoice -
Although a lot of trash is peddled on The Smoking Gun, you've still gotta love it.
This is a redefinition of the word "hubris." The American people hate corporate America today, and who could blame them?
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10/08/2008 12:36 #45994
Outrage We Can All Believe In10/07/2008 14:56 #45980
News of the Weird and SickeningFormer Mr. Gay UK 'slit boyfriend's throat then marinated his diced flesh with fresh herbs' -
His defense was that the other guy was trying to rape him. I wonder i forensic evidence will bear that out... not that I ever plan on following this story.
His defense was that the other guy was trying to rape him. I wonder i forensic evidence will bear that out... not that I ever plan on following this story.
gardenmama - 10/07/08 19:33
Perhaps he was just trying to spice things up a bit - maybe their relationship was getting a little too bland.
Perhaps he was just trying to spice things up a bit - maybe their relationship was getting a little too bland.
joshua - 10/07/08 18:45
This is one jury duty session that I'd jump out of a moving car to avoid.
This is one jury duty session that I'd jump out of a moving car to avoid.
hodown - 10/07/08 16:57
That is so gross!
That is so gross!
james - 10/07/08 16:10
I am glad he did marinate it with fresh herbs! The Dahmer murders were completely lacking in culinary imagination.
I am glad he did marinate it with fresh herbs! The Dahmer murders were completely lacking in culinary imagination.
jim - 10/07/08 16:07
This one guy tried to rob me once, and he made a delicious soufflé. It's not THAT strange.
This one guy tried to rob me once, and he made a delicious soufflé. It's not THAT strange.
jason - 10/07/08 15:37
Marinating the flesh with herbs? WTF? Maybe it is just that he is a sick fuck, and nobody cuts human flesh and dresses it with herbs that has it all together?
Marinating the flesh with herbs? WTF? Maybe it is just that he is a sick fuck, and nobody cuts human flesh and dresses it with herbs that has it all together?
10/03/2008 10:51 #45916
Spot in the Morning10am on a Friday, and there was a line to the door. Get some jobs people - my God! What are these lazy bourgeois doing? Paying taxes is "patriotic" so get cracking - we're in a mess, you know!
metalpeter - 10/03/08 19:50
It is funny that we are in tough economic times and some places like spot do great still. It was pretty chilly today people need there teas and Coffees. Saturday when I went to Office Max the Target parking lot looked as packed as it normaly does.
It is funny that we are in tough economic times and some places like spot do great still. It was pretty chilly today people need there teas and Coffees. Saturday when I went to Office Max the Target parking lot looked as packed as it normaly does.
tinypliny - 10/03/08 13:26
Probably students missing class. Don't be so harsh on the kids. :)
Probably students missing class. Don't be so harsh on the kids. :)
09/17/2008 12:39 #45707
Stress ReliefYou know what I find works best? Old fashioned manual labor. No matter how rich I become or where I go, there will always be a part of me that will revert back to my working class upbringing, which instinctively compels me to work with my hands. I like working with ideas to get paid, but I like working with my hands to keep my soul at ease.
tinypliny - 09/18/08 21:48
Cooking works as well. :D
Cooking works as well. :D
10/01/2008 11:23 #45877
Alternate Bailout ProposalsThere have been some ideas floating around the past few days, but the one I've been particularly interested in is the use of this vast pool of funds to purchase preferred stock in the troubled firms, rather than purchasing the illiquid debt. Having the government buy the distressed debt is foolhardy, for a few reasons. Firstly, nobody really knows what the debt is worth. Secondly, despite what your politicians were telling you, the federal government has nowhere near the capability to administrate the management of such a large problem effectively, and considering the downside it would be absolutely crazy to do so. Thirdly, and perhaps you agree with me, it is insane to pool $700b into a fund and hand it over to the same people who created this mess to begin with. There has to be another way to increase liquidity in our markets and I think a few people have found the answer.
George Soros has present a plan to the Dems, which isn't actually new, but hopefully with his cajoling the politicians can be convinced to take a more rational path. Now, the article makes a point of highlighting potential problems because, well, Soros is Soros and a lot of people in America hate his intrusion into our politics. Nevertheless, nobody should question his financial acumen and when the guy speaks, people should listen. I can't imagine liberal Democrats agreeing to lowering the corporate tax rate and I can't imagine Republicans agreeing to forcing the Treasury to back mortgages that have been renegotiated, but we'll see.
I think buying the preferred stock is the way forward because it will inject capital immediately into the credit market without the need to buy the bad debt. Buying the bad debt is an unacceptable risk to the American people. The truth of the matter is that these firms could have already sold this bad debt, but why take 10 cents on the dollar when the government may offer you 30? With this method taxpayers will actually have assets - something tangible to hold onto, rather than debt that is impossible to value. With preferred stock comes enhanced voting rights as well. The government, on behalf of the American people, will ensure that the fox is not guarding the hen house and will limit executive compensation. If some banks don't want to play ball and fail, so be it. This is America - we have smaller banks lined up to take advantage of the big boys and their hubris, and would cut off an arm for the opportunity to do so. Generally speaking, smaller banks are more efficiently managed anyway.
I would advocate for lowering the corporate tax rate to encourage skittish foreign investors to stick around, or even bring aboard new investment. The reality of America is that if this gets any worse, more foreign investment will be pulled and we will suffer a long lasting depression, not a recession. We need to encourage businesses and let them know that we want them to stay here and make money. My first instinct when I read this was to wrinkle my nose at the thought of suggesting "corporate welfare" in the midst of this problem. However, we have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world. We could get away with it previously because doing business in America was a premium opportunity that businesses would fight each other for. That is no longer the case, at least for now. The days of getting away with having the second highest corporate tax rate in the world are over if we want to maintain a robust economy through this mess. Foreigners have absolutely no confidence in our ability to move forward, so they are refusing to participate. We have to fix that.
As for the little guy - I'm the last guy in the world to suggest a socialist tenet as a solution to a problem, but there is no acceptable free market solution to the mortgage mess from the Main St. perspective. Economists say that the free market will work out the mess, but they openly admit that some people may fall through the cracks. I'm unsure about how acceptable that is - some people should have never taken the loans out to begin with while others are legitimately getting screwed through no fault of their own. I'm also unsure about the ability of the Treasury to unravel the mortgage mess in the way Soros describes. Where would the money come from anyway? We have $700b we're going to "invest" with, and if Obama gets elected we will have $1 trillion in new spending, not to mention $53 trillion in unfunded liabilities with SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. that NOBODY wants to reckon with. How does a CBO estimate of 25% base federal tax rate at the turn of the century for the poorest Americans sound? How does a CBO estimate of 88% corporate tax rate sound? With that kind of scenario we may see the end of America as we know it in this very century and nobody wants to talk about it! Are we going to produce yet another $1 trillion to back mortgages, some of which should have never been written? If you make $40,000 per year, you obviously should not be in a $400,000 house, so I envision that the end game will involve people losing their homes regardless of the scenario.
No amount of financial deftness will make unaffordable housing affordable. That is, unless home prices in distressed areas drop 40% like some suggest they will do. In that case, the judges can rewrite the mortgages based on a more reasonable base asset value and mitigate any potential fallout. In any case, I don't believe Americans will bail out Wall St. without a solution for homeowners tacked onto the plan, and I'm fairly sure Democrats will insist on some sort of measure. In my view, it is necessary just like being forced to deal with all of this garbage is necessary. People that legitimately need help and are getting the shaft deserve the government's attention; more so than the baron robbers who are the first in line, begging for mercy. To what degree the government is going to intervene remains to be seen, but I'm in full support of an intervention in the housing market as long as it is done intelligently.
Financial scaremongering is the activity du jour on Capitol Hill. Let's not be naive - we have a serious problem that could potentially collapse our economic system, so we have to be big boys and girls about this and take one on the chin to save the house of cards from falling. However, we're smarter than this. We know better than to rush a bad plan through simply because President Bush, Secretary Paulson and congressional leadership are feeling pressure to fix the problem immediately. Are we even sure how immediate the problem is? Do we really have to push a bill through in 48 hours when maybe a week of serious, well thought out discussions would serve us better?
In this midst of this panic they are playing the blame game, and to be honest if I were King of America I'd fire every single one of them, eliminate the concept of seniority, make it illegal to serve more than two consecutive terms and ask the American people to start over with their government by voting in an entirely new Congress. Those politicians who encouraged reckless borrowing (aka forcing lenders under the threat of criminal action to provide affordable loans to low income people, based on 'stated income'), prevented regulation of Fanny and Freddie (Demos), prevented regulation of the financial markets (Repubs) should no longer have viable political careers. Our Congress has well-earned their 9-10% approval rating - we have the worst Congress to have ever been assembled.
Anyway, you know how I feel about politicians.
George Soros has present a plan to the Dems, which isn't actually new, but hopefully with his cajoling the politicians can be convinced to take a more rational path. Now, the article makes a point of highlighting potential problems because, well, Soros is Soros and a lot of people in America hate his intrusion into our politics. Nevertheless, nobody should question his financial acumen and when the guy speaks, people should listen. I can't imagine liberal Democrats agreeing to lowering the corporate tax rate and I can't imagine Republicans agreeing to forcing the Treasury to back mortgages that have been renegotiated, but we'll see.
I think buying the preferred stock is the way forward because it will inject capital immediately into the credit market without the need to buy the bad debt. Buying the bad debt is an unacceptable risk to the American people. The truth of the matter is that these firms could have already sold this bad debt, but why take 10 cents on the dollar when the government may offer you 30? With this method taxpayers will actually have assets - something tangible to hold onto, rather than debt that is impossible to value. With preferred stock comes enhanced voting rights as well. The government, on behalf of the American people, will ensure that the fox is not guarding the hen house and will limit executive compensation. If some banks don't want to play ball and fail, so be it. This is America - we have smaller banks lined up to take advantage of the big boys and their hubris, and would cut off an arm for the opportunity to do so. Generally speaking, smaller banks are more efficiently managed anyway.
I would advocate for lowering the corporate tax rate to encourage skittish foreign investors to stick around, or even bring aboard new investment. The reality of America is that if this gets any worse, more foreign investment will be pulled and we will suffer a long lasting depression, not a recession. We need to encourage businesses and let them know that we want them to stay here and make money. My first instinct when I read this was to wrinkle my nose at the thought of suggesting "corporate welfare" in the midst of this problem. However, we have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world. We could get away with it previously because doing business in America was a premium opportunity that businesses would fight each other for. That is no longer the case, at least for now. The days of getting away with having the second highest corporate tax rate in the world are over if we want to maintain a robust economy through this mess. Foreigners have absolutely no confidence in our ability to move forward, so they are refusing to participate. We have to fix that.
As for the little guy - I'm the last guy in the world to suggest a socialist tenet as a solution to a problem, but there is no acceptable free market solution to the mortgage mess from the Main St. perspective. Economists say that the free market will work out the mess, but they openly admit that some people may fall through the cracks. I'm unsure about how acceptable that is - some people should have never taken the loans out to begin with while others are legitimately getting screwed through no fault of their own. I'm also unsure about the ability of the Treasury to unravel the mortgage mess in the way Soros describes. Where would the money come from anyway? We have $700b we're going to "invest" with, and if Obama gets elected we will have $1 trillion in new spending, not to mention $53 trillion in unfunded liabilities with SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. that NOBODY wants to reckon with. How does a CBO estimate of 25% base federal tax rate at the turn of the century for the poorest Americans sound? How does a CBO estimate of 88% corporate tax rate sound? With that kind of scenario we may see the end of America as we know it in this very century and nobody wants to talk about it! Are we going to produce yet another $1 trillion to back mortgages, some of which should have never been written? If you make $40,000 per year, you obviously should not be in a $400,000 house, so I envision that the end game will involve people losing their homes regardless of the scenario.
No amount of financial deftness will make unaffordable housing affordable. That is, unless home prices in distressed areas drop 40% like some suggest they will do. In that case, the judges can rewrite the mortgages based on a more reasonable base asset value and mitigate any potential fallout. In any case, I don't believe Americans will bail out Wall St. without a solution for homeowners tacked onto the plan, and I'm fairly sure Democrats will insist on some sort of measure. In my view, it is necessary just like being forced to deal with all of this garbage is necessary. People that legitimately need help and are getting the shaft deserve the government's attention; more so than the baron robbers who are the first in line, begging for mercy. To what degree the government is going to intervene remains to be seen, but I'm in full support of an intervention in the housing market as long as it is done intelligently.
Financial scaremongering is the activity du jour on Capitol Hill. Let's not be naive - we have a serious problem that could potentially collapse our economic system, so we have to be big boys and girls about this and take one on the chin to save the house of cards from falling. However, we're smarter than this. We know better than to rush a bad plan through simply because President Bush, Secretary Paulson and congressional leadership are feeling pressure to fix the problem immediately. Are we even sure how immediate the problem is? Do we really have to push a bill through in 48 hours when maybe a week of serious, well thought out discussions would serve us better?
In this midst of this panic they are playing the blame game, and to be honest if I were King of America I'd fire every single one of them, eliminate the concept of seniority, make it illegal to serve more than two consecutive terms and ask the American people to start over with their government by voting in an entirely new Congress. Those politicians who encouraged reckless borrowing (aka forcing lenders under the threat of criminal action to provide affordable loans to low income people, based on 'stated income'), prevented regulation of Fanny and Freddie (Demos), prevented regulation of the financial markets (Repubs) should no longer have viable political careers. Our Congress has well-earned their 9-10% approval rating - we have the worst Congress to have ever been assembled.
Anyway, you know how I feel about politicians.
tinypliny - 10/01/08 23:08
Loved your post! Thanks. :) Can you clarify a bit more?
-- What are "preferred stocks"? Preferred by whom? How are these different from regular stocks of a company (eg. banks)?
-- Have corporate taxes increased in the past few years?
-- Will new foreign investment (as a result of lowering corporate taxes) relieve this mortgage-home-ownership situation? How? What kind of foreign investment are you talking about? Foreign companies buying American stock or setting up manufacturing businesses here?
-- Can the government tax financial lending institutions (that have made irresponsible decisions by lending to people who can't possibly pay back) instead of every corporation? -- Sort of like, if you lend with more risks, you pay more tax? Can this even be done?
-- If this 700bn goes instead towards plugging the gaping trillion dollar social security hole, what would be the repercussions?
Loved your post! Thanks. :) Can you clarify a bit more?
-- What are "preferred stocks"? Preferred by whom? How are these different from regular stocks of a company (eg. banks)?
-- Have corporate taxes increased in the past few years?
-- Will new foreign investment (as a result of lowering corporate taxes) relieve this mortgage-home-ownership situation? How? What kind of foreign investment are you talking about? Foreign companies buying American stock or setting up manufacturing businesses here?
-- Can the government tax financial lending institutions (that have made irresponsible decisions by lending to people who can't possibly pay back) instead of every corporation? -- Sort of like, if you lend with more risks, you pay more tax? Can this even be done?
-- If this 700bn goes instead towards plugging the gaping trillion dollar social security hole, what would be the repercussions?
I'm sorry, that's our money, not theirs, our representatives should be probing their asses when it comes to how they use every last penny. What a disgrace. God only knows how that $700B and more is going to be spent.
MO MONEY 4 AIG!!!
Yea, after that they are getting more $ from us :::link:::
That's just about 60k less than what you company makes in an entire year.
Appalling.
I want to get caught in a golden parachute!
I can't decide if that makes me angry or jealous. Or angry and jealous.
And I bet the government doesn't mind one bit. I wonder what the presidential candidates would say about this. Too bad they don't answer questions unless they've all been screened and had weeks to prepare answers for. It would have been nice if someone brought this up at the town hall (joke) meeting they had yesterday.
Preposterous. People like that deserve to be assaulted at the gym. If it were up to me they would be sent to the brig.
dang.
I wish I could be surprised.
As someone who works in corporate American I am not shocked at all by this.