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01/29/2007 14:16 #37909

12-year old boy gets sex change
Before I get into the subject matter - Barbaro is off to the glue factory. Apparently they euthanized him today.

Yep - a 12-year old in Germany got a sex change. The only thing preventing him/her from getting the phallus removed is that by law one must be 18 years of age to undergo the procedure.

There are a number of disturbing elements to this story, none of which involve the complicated psychological issues that this young fella has had growing up.

So then, (e:josh), what is bothering you about this topic?

1. This is being paid for by taxpayers through their national health service because "the condition qualifies as an illness." If this is true, then why does the doctor who is treating the teenager state that the patient is not suffering from an illness? At best, the science at hand has no answer to this question because countries such as Germany are so consumed by political correctness that they are frozen from debate. Regardless, this is something that taxpayers should never have to foot the bill for.

2. To undergo such a thing, two independent psychiatrists have to "confirm that the child is indeed transsexual" before approving a sex change. By what method could anybody realistically prove such a thing? At some point science and medicine is getting thrown out the window in exchange for sociopolitical dogma.

3. Doctors simultaneously claim that treatment should be pursued as soon as possible in cases such as Tim/Kim (the patients names), yet they also admit that the long-term ramifications of such therapy on a 12-year old is not well understood. This qualifies as medicine in Europe?

4. 12-year olds lack the maturity and sophistication to make decisions on a multitude of things, the least of which are more sobering and final than a sex change. How on earth could doctors have allowed such a thing to occur, particularly with a pre-pubescent? This constitutes an egregious failure on the part of the doctors. What was the reasoning behind the doctors insistence on pursuing a sex change? That to let the patient reach puberty in his state would permanently damage his personality. Excuse me while I smoke enough dope to trick myself into believing such rubbish.

I'm generally a "live and let live" kind of guy - I'm not particularly interested in the sexual diversity of the world outside of the thought that people should be allowed to pursue whatever they like. 12-year olds getting sex changes, on the other hand, is an entirely different story.
metalpeter - 01/29/07 19:41
First of all I do belive that there is Genderdismorphia and i do belive that it is real. It sounds like this kid has all the social aspects of a girl playing with barbies and whearing dresses. There are two problems I have with this decision. The first is that If i understood this correctly the kid hasn't hit puberty yet. There arn't enough studies to know what will happen when hair starts growing and the kid starts choking the chicken. He may love his cock and want to have a cock and still be one of the girls. But if he gets female hormones this won't happen and he will only know the women side.

The second thing that bothers me about genderdismorphia is that I don't think it is really a dieasee. We classify it a dieasse becuase whe as a society have soicietal norms for what makes a women and what makes a man. Yes I do understand that there is a chromsome differance and that can be checked for. So since a guy likes to wear a dress and play with dolls he is considered a girl. But why can't a guy play with dolls. In fact guys do play with dolls for example Spawn Dolls, Transformers, Gi Joe Dolls, G.I Joes (little ones), Wrestling Figures. All of those are just Masculine versions of those and we call them action figures but they are no differant. When a girl is born we give them girly stuff and boys sports and war stuff and trucks are the toys they are given. Our society decides what is a girl and what is a boy. Maybe we will stop indoctornating our kids and We can clean up the grade schools and high schools and get the indoctornation out of them as well.

Don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. I do think that there are really stright women in guys bodies and vice versa and they should have the freedom to get an operation to fix that and that health insurance should cover it. Once you start saying that there are things that arn't cosmetic that it shouldn't cover you start to go somewhere you don't want to wind up at. But I also belive that this kid is to young physicaly. I can't say emotionaly because I don't know him. But from the article he hasn't hit puberty and he needs to go through all the changes first.
uncutsaniflush - 01/29/07 16:40
Not only did I read the article you linked to, I've also read this :::link:::

Let's see where to do start:

1. It is my understanding that performing gender re-assignment surgery under the age of 16 or 18 depending on the country is illegal. However, hormone therapy is legal. Otherwise, it would not be done and the German government would not be paying for.

2. The "illegality" of the surgery is a non-issue because it has not been performed.

3. Laws are capricious and arbitrary. Just because something is legal doesn't make it necessarily morally right. And, in the same vein, just because something is illegal doesn't make it morally wrong. Just look at the abortion and drug laws in this country - both sides insist theirs is the morally right side and that the other side is morally wrong.

4. The problem with logic is that if one starts with false premises, one will end up with false conclusions. But the syllogism will be logically sound. I'm not saying your premises are necessarily false. I'm saying that I don't have enough data since I've not met the child or talked to the family or to the doctors to verify your assumptions.

5. I think it is fairly clear that you were criticizing the German government with your statement "Regardless, this is something that taxpayers should never have to foot the bill for." To me that means that you were trying to protect the German taxpayers from footing the bill for things they shouldn't. But I'll accept that you don't want to protect the German taxpayer.

6. I can't say that any specific 12 year old should or shouldn't have a sex change or even drink alcohol without knowing the person involved. I think some people are more mature at the age of 12 than others are at the age of 60. There isn't a switch in the brain that automatically makes a person mature at 18 or 21 or any other arbitrary age. In Germany the legal drinking is 16 or 18 depending on the beverage. In the U.S., the drinking age is 21. In Ontario, it is 19. And a few countries such as China don't have a minimum drinking age.

Minimum ages for drinking and anything else are arbitrary standards that assume that everyone is exactly the same. Some people are no better equipped to drink alcohol at the age of 60 than they are at the age of 12. And I think the same holds true for gender-reassignment surgery.

And, personally, I don't see a problem (in general terms) with a 12-year-old having a glass of wine with dinner with his parents.

And contrarywise, I think it is just as bad for a 60-year-old and a 12-year-old to go out on a multi-day bender.

7. And last but not least, I assume that the doctors and family involved are caring individuals who have the best interests of the child involved. I also assume that they know more about the specifics of this than the rest of the world. Thus, I assume that they are doing the right thing for the child.

You obviously don't make the same assumptions that I do. For the child's sake, I hope you are wrong and I am right.
joshua - 01/29/07 15:41
Secondly - I almost forgot. Its important to understand that in most European countries, as the article highlights, sex changes are actually illegal for those under 16 years of age. It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or even a doctor) to understand that a sex change for a 12-year old is inappropriate, but since you wondered and I'm not really sure if you read the article anyway, I thought I would toss that tidbit of info in there.
joshua - 01/29/07 15:34
I don't pretend to be a doctor, but none of my takes on the contradictions in their own statements are flawed logically.

If you are inclined to believe that a 12-year old is physically, mentally and emotionally capable of making a decision about a sex change operation then surely a 12-year old should be able to make decisions about things like drinking alcohol, correct?

Its called bad stewardship. Which is quite clearly the crux of my opinions outside of the taxpayer funded aspect of this story.

You'll have to excuse me - I've gone over my own article a couple times now and I've yet to see where I've offered to protect German taxpayers. I'm CRITICIZING them. That is fairly clear.
uncutsaniflush - 01/29/07 14:56
Wow (e:joshua)!!! It amazes me that upon the basis of reading an article online, you think that know better than the many people (family and health professionals) who actually know the child involved.

You have every right, of course, to your opinion. And for all I know, you might even be right. But in general terms, I would not trust your medical diagnosis skills without a concurring diagnosis from someone who has actually examined the patient.

Personally, I'm not a doctor, I haven't studied gender identity, and I haven't spoken to the child or his family or his doctors. I don't feel that I have enough information to make a judgment about this.

As to the taxpayers of Germany, I don't think they need an American to protect them. If the German taxpayers think this is wrong, they can choose to do something about it.



01/24/2007 11:59 #37820

Comments
(e:imk2) - were those tickets yours or someone elses?

(e:paul) - how much testing have you had to do for multiple browsers in the past for work-related projects? If you are frustrated about that kind of thing, my brother could deluge you with stories. I can understand the frustration but ultimately if you elminate browser choices, that would be to the detriment of the site. In any case, next time you feel this frustration break out the sticky green and then proceed to log on to (e:terry)'s WoW character and delete all his gear.

Only kidding (e:terry)! Speaking of which, our 60 paladin with MC/BWL gear is rotting.

Per the Linux/Apple discussion in my previous journal - VERY intriguing idea (e:ajay), concerning the possibility of expanding into Apple clones. Steve Jobs is utterly reluctant to separate hardware and software, but seriously, OSX is a better OS than XP and if he were supremely confident about his software he would try to strike out and make deals for clones. I have to admit that it would be intriguing to see what would happen. Server side, when you look at these massive datacenters that costs hundreds of thousands if not millions, specifically the ones that are marketed on TV by the likes of HP, Dell, IBM, etc. - what OS do these usually have installed on them upon receipt? Is it relatively common if servers come with Windows pre-installed that they simply wipe the disks and start over with the OS that they want?

(e:ajay) - as per AG Gonzales. My god, a Baltimore paper that is more left wing than the Sun - bravo! I am with the wackos on this one. Habeas corpus has a 200-year established legal precedence and will likely not have its meaning changed because of clever wording. If you can suspend a right, there must be an implication that there is a right in the first place. I'm actually insulted by the suggestion, so imagine how Arlen Specter felt having been face to face with the guy.

Where the rest of the article goes horribly wrong, and of course you know I cannot let this stuff go, are in the following -

1) The Constitution does grant the executive branch broad war powers, but IMO anyway neoconservatives are reaching too far at times with respect to interpretation of law. I find the complaints by the author a tad funny considering that he likely supported the legal Twister game that morphed into Roe vs. Wade.

2) The incessant attempts at bringing non-citizens into the American legal fold are absolutely frightening, and thanks to Speaker Pelosi, who knows that such a thing would result in no less than the guillotine for Demos in '08, this will never happen.

3) The problem with guys like the one who wrote this article is that there is absolutely no understanding of the fact that military courts or tribunals meant to handle suspected terrorists' cases are NOTHING LIKE civilian courts. They aren't meant to be, they shouldn't be and they never will be.

01/19/2007 14:52 #37779

Mr. Mike
(e:mrmike) - my friend that works at one of the local news stations is saying that at midnight tonight Fox stations will be going dark unless some sort of agreement is made. I.E. no 24, no football. Any truth to this?
mrmike - 01/19/07 22:42
Good for the friend, he or she should know it was never a fox issue. Sinclair wanted to be paid like a cable station despite owning nothing but over the air channels. Los Angeles nearly lost their ABC affiliate as part of this stupidity, but everybody can rest easy hopefully
mrmike - 01/19/07 22:41
The agreement is done. Nobody is going anywhere. Details got finalized a little bit ago and the formal announcement will on the late news with dibs and drabs to follow. See, the Simpsons and 24 were safe in my hands all along
metalpeter - 01/19/07 17:43
(I'm not mr mike but I sure hope that dosn't happen, I don't have time to drop cable and get direct tv hooked up before football or even 24, not to mention prison break restarts on monday to)

01/24/2007 13:01 #37848

Another post!
I have some things that I wanted to say to you guys, and I didn't want to create a post that was twice the length of my usually very long journal entries.

I would apologize for the length of my journals but I'm not sorry!

Music

For fun the other night I checked out New World Record on the web to see what their staff picks have been. I know, incredibly lazy considering that literally could spit on NWR from my porch, but hey - leave me alone. Anyway, after sampling dozens of albums I came away with a half dozen that I thought would suit me. One of the bands that did not come from a NWR recommendation is called Stars of Track and Field - I know I've mentioned them in my journal before. If you like (or love!) The Postal Service then I would highly, highly recommend this band. You can enjoy Centuries Before Love and War for the time being until The Postal Service releases their new album, which is due out this year.

Passports

Do it now if you don't have a passport. If my some miracle you don't already know, the Depts. of State and Homeland Security have implemented new rules for air travel if you are entering the United States from anywhere in the western hemisphere. Canadian citizens - this is true for you as well so be prepared. You can read more about it here -

What is particularly relevent are the requirements that will be implemented next year - if you want to cross the border and return you will be REQUIRED to have a passport. While this isn't finalized yet, you don't want to be the guy or gal that waits last minute and gets royally shafted. I've gone through this process before, and for those of you who are a little unsure about what to do or are intimidated by the process, here is what you do -

1) Get informed - - this site will detail any and all questions about what you need.
2) Complete the application either by traditional methods or by using the Dept. of State online form then printing it out.
3) Collect your birth certificate, photo ID, $92, passport photos (I did mine at Wal-Mart for $10 when I got an oil change once) and the application and bring it to a local passport acceptance facility. Aka the Post Office. A note about the pictures and identification - there are specific rules for the photos and additional information for those who were not born in the United States so be sure to have everything in proper order before you go to the Post Office.
4) Submit your cash and the other stuff for review. They will mail your birth certificate back to you, if I remember correctly.
5) Wait between 4-8 weeks for your passport to arrive by mail

The US government is now issuing e-passports, which look identical to the other tourist passports with one major exception - there is a microchip implanted into the cover that holds a digital photograph that can be compared with your actual face at immigration with the use of facial recognition technology, as well as other things. For more information, check out this link - - the new passport pages are actually really cool looking.

You can expedite your application, like I had to do because of a pressing need to go overseas for work, but generally its going to end up costing you nearly twice as much. If you aren't in a hurry then don't bother with the expedited service.

Cool Web Sites

I have to share some interesting sites with you, if you haven't seen or heard of them yet.

First on the list - Wii Have A Problem - - this site actually has a damage counter that lists various reported personal injuries and/or destruction to property as a result of playing games on a Nintendo Wii. If you haven't played on a Wii before - let me just say that it requires the use of a "wiimote" that must be tethered to your wrist, for the butterfingered fools out there. Some of the personal injury entries are gruesome and amazing - one guy broke his clavicle playing Home Run Derby, another popped his knee, and the absolute best - one guy reached back violently and accidentally punched his girlfriend in the face. What did she do? She posed with her shiner, a big smile and a "thumbs up" - if this were a Foster's commercial, I'd be saying "KEEPAH!" Shattered TVs, broken glass, broken lamps, obviously fake (coughpatheticattemptstogetnoticedonawebsitecough) submissions - its all chronicled here.

Secondly. SongMeanings - - this is a site that I occasionally use to read what some peoples' collective takes on what song lyrics actually mean. This is a virtual treasure trove of verbal cockfights between people who consider themselves superfans of one band or another, and as a result the arguments and the "I know more than you about this band" approach some of these pathetic nerds are guilty of perpetrating are nothing short of explosive and very comedic. You'll no doubt run into one of these kinds of scenarios if you search long enough, but the site is useful if you've ever wanted insight into a set of lyrics. Over 26,000 artists are catalogued.
inspiraysean - 01/25/07 17:10
LOL I acquired a passport in 1999 for a trip to Ireland and haven't used it since! It expires in 2009 I believe so I'm covered for now, although prolly renew it in '08, hopefully get to use it at least once in '07, not just for Canada mind you:)
mrmike - 01/25/07 07:42
Thanks for the passport link. I got it underway last night
joshua - 01/24/07 14:45
First!

01/23/2007 11:42 #37834

Various
I'm growing my hair out and I haven't shaved. The beauty, and perhaps irony, of the fact that a guy like myself is tightly involved in such a liberal industry such as mine (social responsibility, social accountability, corporate responsibility, ethical standards, anti-sweatshop activism, whatever you'd like to call it) is that appearance is completely unimportant. In the summers I walk around my office barefoot - how many people get to do that? In any case, with the possible exception of having the sides thinned out (my hair gets bushy) I think that I'm going to het it hang until I absolutely have to cut and shave. Mountain man, here I come!

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Something (e:ajay) wrote as a comment in (e:paul)'s latest journal - - startled me.

The days of Windows are numbered? I'm not an IT guy, but I can't help but think that Windows will never go away. It has a ridiculously large marketshare that, IMO anyway, will take longer than 10 years to whittle away. Business applications are one thing, but home use is another problem entirely.

I would love to instigate (in a good way) some chit chat about Windows vs. Linux.

Linux has a number of hurdles to clear before it will ever be used as a replacement for Windows. Firstly, the stigma that Linux is a "geeks only" type of OS that is difficult to use has to be cleared away. If it doesn't install software, run and is as easy to use as Windows is, Linux will never catch the attention of average computer users, and I question the ability of hardcore Linux advocates to be able to see the issue from the side of the people who are not at all technically savvy. Even the most user-friendly Linux distro is going to have components that even average Windows users, who feel that they know what they are doing around a PC, are going to cause confusion. No command lines, period, under any circumstances, for any reason. Any frustration experienced, any little thing that made life easier but doesn't work exactly the same as Windows did, etc. - these are factors that will eliminate the opportunity for Linux to gain market share.

Secondly, the graphics capabilities for Linux are extremely poor - if gamers cannot play the most popular PC games through a Linux platform that gamer will *always* have a Windows partition, even if they are the most enthusiastic Linux user. Thirdly - plug and play. I find it ironic that Linuxheads refer to Windows PnP as "plug and pray." Fourthly - comfort level - this cannot be understated. Abandoning Windows for Linux is a huge step for a lot of people, and Linux has to generate enough of an appeal to encourage Windows users to take the leap. All the free software in the world isn't going to mean anything to somebody who is experiencing trouble with Linux and has an XP install disk in the other hand.

IT people that know what they are doing should be running Linux anyway... its a more secure OS and for that reason alone businesses should consider using a flavor of Linux on servers. I actually quite like Linux - for everyday use, as far as I'm concerned, its a superior product to Windows... if you know what you are doing. Linux is not ready to be mass marketed to the general public quite yet. Sure, many Linux distros have made fantastic leaps in the past 5 or 6 years and many of the problems that I'm highlighting are being worked out, but since Linux is not perfect it will not eclipse Windows and its massive market share. Nothing short of an OS that operates exactly, precisely like Windows (gaming and ease of use/installation included) and adds the appeals of free software that is 110% compatible with Microsoft products will create a wave large enough to make a dent in home usage share. Server side - IT people know what they are doing and therefore do not have much of an excuse.

If I'm wrong, and in 10 years Microsoft is out of the OS business, I'll buy steak dinners (or if you are not a meat eater, whatever you like).

Apple - never have been a particularly big fan of Apple products outside of the iPod. For years they were generally inferior to IBM clones (theres an old term for you!) and Apple's only great and consistant calling card has been the appeal from artist types, who have always been loyal to Apple. I was impressed with their latest offerings though. I am 75/25 on making a MacBook my next computing purchase... such an amazing product! For home computing purposes, if I were getting into computers now rather than 20 years ago I would strongly consider an Apple product. Without a doubt they are the innovators at the moment and their products are the slickest.
lilho - 01/23/07 22:41
scruffy is ok with me.
ajay - 01/23/07 21:50
I think (e:jenks) said most of what I was going to say.

Apple took the best of Unix (BSD), added an easy-to-use shell on it and put out a pretty nice product. It is only a matter of time before HP and Dell put out Apple clones. I know Steve likes to have full control over his hardware, but come on: there's only so many Apples he can sell for the markup he likes. Eventually he will have to strike a deal with Dell/HP/Lenovo to come out with a 3rd-party version.

On the server side, Linux and FreeBSD are gaining marketshare, and Windows is nowhere to be found.
uncutsaniflush - 01/23/07 18:08
I think your analysis of Linux is fairly accurate (e:joshua).

In my view until people can buy computers that come with Linux pre-loaded the same way they can with Windows and OsX, Linux will continue to be a "geeky" operating system. If an OEM makes a box that is tested and configured for Linux, everything would work out of the box and people wouldn't need to touch the command line.

As to graphics and Linux, I think the problem is that the manufacturers of gaming graphics cards don't bother to make drivers for Linux in the same way that they do with Microsoft. But no matter the reason, without better graphic card support, Linux will never be a good gaming platform.

To me, the big problem with Apple is that there even less choice of hardware and hardware upgrades than there is with Linux. Perhaps with the Intel Macs that isn't true anymore, but I don't know. I know that with g3 iBook I am very limited with what I can upgrade.

In my experience, osX is stable as long as you stick with the software that comes with it. I've managed several times to panic the kernel (ha ha!!) doing (what I thought was) simple stuff and it was a bit hard to recover from that. That being said, osX apps from Apple play very well with each other. The GUI is more consistent than in any other OS I've seen other than maybe AmigaOS (if my memory serves)
joshua - 01/23/07 13:52
OSX - I've heard nothing but fantastic things from my Mac using friends.

(e:iriesara) - when I was scruffy my ex-girlfriend used to rub her hands on my face so I think you must be right. It makes me look older as well - I am a 28 year old with an 18 year olds face :(

iriesara - 01/23/07 13:36
Girls like scruffy long-hairs. I may just be speaking for myself, but not entirely, I'm sure.
jenks - 01/23/07 12:12
Ok I am unabashedly mac-biased, and I don't try to hide that... I'm reasonably tech-savvy and intelligent, and I can generally figure out how to do whatever I need to on windows, and am often able to fix little stuff for people at work etc when they can't figure it out. But I am still a 'home' user, I'd say, and not a 'power' user. [Point of that- I know how to use windows, but I avoid it when possible]. And I admit I don't really know the difference between Linux and Unix, and maybe that is the key here, but-

I thought the whole angle Apple took with OSX, or at least one of them, is that it's essentially Unix for dummies... All the security stability blah blah of Unix, with a pretty/easy GUI on top for the people who don't want to deal with a command line. But, still, a command line for people who know what that means.

Or am I totally missing the point?