So yesterday I got into an accident on my bike. I was in hurry to get to work and riding on the sidewalk on Route 5, which I know is dangerous. I usually take a lane for the most of it but I hadn't been able to across the street yet. I started to approach a driveway where a car was waiting to turn borth . I made eye contact with the driver, he waved and I kept going.
when I started to pass him, I saw him slowly rolling forward, right into my wheel. I freaked out, rolled onto his hood and got off my bike.
The driver was panicking like crazy, he was so worried that he hurt me. Normally I would have been pissed (I always have dreamed of administering some u-lock justice) but I think was I was in just as much shock. My bike seemed okay and I wasn't hurt at all. Somehow I managed to dent his hood and bent his license plate off. He got out and just kept apologizing but the only thing I could about after that was getting to work, so I rode off.
Later, Bert's Bikes said my bike looked fine. Still, it was so stupid for me to not get his information, or yell at him for waving me on. An accident could have been so much worse if he pushed me into the road. I guess it shows why taking the lane is important. The only thing that I damaged was my ego. I like to think I'm a good cyclist but that was so ameuter and avoidable.
On the plus side, I rode every day this week, with my best time to work ever, averaging 19.4 mph!
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11/09/2013 07:06 #58270
bike accidentCategory: bikes
11/07/2013 12:39 #58262
Organic vs CheapCategory: food
Last night I got in a debate with (e:Paul) over buying organic/local/fair-trade food. (e:Terry) had sent us a link ranking Tops as one of the worst grocers in the country, and I said at least they're semi-cheap. Paul wanted to know why I value price over quality when it comes to food.
I definitely see the value in buying organic, local, and/or fair trade food when possible. I am well aware of the impact pesticides have on the environment and how unsustainable most of our food supply is without tons of petrochemicals. I've heard about the potential health risks of residual pesticides. But I've never been able to get myself to spend for organic.
I've been shopping at Aldi for close to 5 years now. Of all the discount stores, I think they're the cleanest and best run (that ruthless German efficiency!). I don't know where they source any of their mostly non-organic produce and food, but I know that their workers are paid at least $12/hr and managers $20, plus benefits. I could always get by shopping on a $30/week grocery budget, where Giant Eagle in Cleveland would have cost me closer to $60. Same thing for Wegmans and the coop costing much more. I would love to get my food from there but I sink my budget into my loans.
Is it selfish of me to be cheap and buy crazy unknown Aldi food when now I can technically afford more? I definitely have noticed a quality difference between what I've been buying vs what Paul and Terry get at the coop and Wegmans. I said it's worse to be feeding the student loan monster with interest over industrial ag, but that's me justifying it after the fact.
Maybe I can become a couponer like (e:mike) or my mom and shop at Wegmans. Or skip the local aspect and keeping going for cheap organic way out at Trader Joe's. Either way it's good to be challenged.
I definitely see the value in buying organic, local, and/or fair trade food when possible. I am well aware of the impact pesticides have on the environment and how unsustainable most of our food supply is without tons of petrochemicals. I've heard about the potential health risks of residual pesticides. But I've never been able to get myself to spend for organic.
I've been shopping at Aldi for close to 5 years now. Of all the discount stores, I think they're the cleanest and best run (that ruthless German efficiency!). I don't know where they source any of their mostly non-organic produce and food, but I know that their workers are paid at least $12/hr and managers $20, plus benefits. I could always get by shopping on a $30/week grocery budget, where Giant Eagle in Cleveland would have cost me closer to $60. Same thing for Wegmans and the coop costing much more. I would love to get my food from there but I sink my budget into my loans.
Is it selfish of me to be cheap and buy crazy unknown Aldi food when now I can technically afford more? I definitely have noticed a quality difference between what I've been buying vs what Paul and Terry get at the coop and Wegmans. I said it's worse to be feeding the student loan monster with interest over industrial ag, but that's me justifying it after the fact.
Maybe I can become a couponer like (e:mike) or my mom and shop at Wegmans. Or skip the local aspect and keeping going for cheap organic way out at Trader Joe's. Either way it's good to be challenged.
metalpeter - 11/09/13 15:47
Lots of really great points.... Where I agree is that Organic is a trend and that is ok and just that label means it can and does sell for more.... Another example of this is Gluten Free.... I'll admit I just know it is the stuff in noodles and then there is stuff that isn't gluten but is glutten like and people who can't eat it would know what was in it.... It was labeled not sure if it still is all over Fruity Pebbles Really :) FDA is supposed to watch this stuff but I've heard they really don't.... But maybe this is really just a food labeling issue .... Like was do all of them mean low fat in big green splash or even worse lower fat ? With all the science talk what might be interesting to do is to go from shop to shop (Might be tough with different brands though) and see how much the mark up is to things that are organic vs Nonorganic and the prices at all the places.... It being just me I never buy produce (It would go bad) ... my guess and just me guess is that every place that sells organic and or even maybe local has a higher % mark up then normal cause they know people who can afford will get it.... One if they really wanted to do research and have fun (Taste test :) might cause bias) could look into this with craft beers also ......
Lots of really great points.... Where I agree is that Organic is a trend and that is ok and just that label means it can and does sell for more.... Another example of this is Gluten Free.... I'll admit I just know it is the stuff in noodles and then there is stuff that isn't gluten but is glutten like and people who can't eat it would know what was in it.... It was labeled not sure if it still is all over Fruity Pebbles Really :) FDA is supposed to watch this stuff but I've heard they really don't.... But maybe this is really just a food labeling issue .... Like was do all of them mean low fat in big green splash or even worse lower fat ? With all the science talk what might be interesting to do is to go from shop to shop (Might be tough with different brands though) and see how much the mark up is to things that are organic vs Nonorganic and the prices at all the places.... It being just me I never buy produce (It would go bad) ... my guess and just me guess is that every place that sells organic and or even maybe local has a higher % mark up then normal cause they know people who can afford will get it.... One if they really wanted to do research and have fun (Taste test :) might cause bias) could look into this with craft beers also ......
YesThatCasey - 11/08/13 13:22
I'm all for scientific research. My lack of confidence is in the personal interpretation that people adopt of it. "Negligible" is an opinion regarding results, and not a product of the research itself. That isn't to say it is incorrect, but at this moment I see more evidence to the contrary, with apples (conveniently) being a prime example.
I'm all for scientific research. My lack of confidence is in the personal interpretation that people adopt of it. "Negligible" is an opinion regarding results, and not a product of the research itself. That isn't to say it is incorrect, but at this moment I see more evidence to the contrary, with apples (conveniently) being a prime example.
tinypliny - 11/08/13 07:49
I don't blame you. Nothing about science really inspires confidence in anyone anymore. I wasn't making a case for vegetarianism. I was commenting on how pesticide and inorganic chemical residues differentially accumulate in different solvents and how this chemistry might affect food in different levels of the food chain.
You are welcome to eat organic apples, Casey - even if no one has really found any difference between them and the cheaper non-organic ones.
I don't blame you. Nothing about science really inspires confidence in anyone anymore. I wasn't making a case for vegetarianism. I was commenting on how pesticide and inorganic chemical residues differentially accumulate in different solvents and how this chemistry might affect food in different levels of the food chain.
You are welcome to eat organic apples, Casey - even if no one has really found any difference between them and the cheaper non-organic ones.
YesThatCasey - 11/08/13 07:38
"Next to negligible" doesn't invoke a great deal of confidence in me. ;o) Also, comparing apples to orangutans (best I could come up with) is definitely a solid argument for vegetarianism, but if we are comparing organic apples to non-organic apples, organic is very much justified and worthwhile.
jbeatty, I think it is important to differentiate a discussion around "organic" from one about "organic labels". There are many problems with the labeling system that should not be held against the practice and benefits of organic production.
"Next to negligible" doesn't invoke a great deal of confidence in me. ;o) Also, comparing apples to orangutans (best I could come up with) is definitely a solid argument for vegetarianism, but if we are comparing organic apples to non-organic apples, organic is very much justified and worthwhile.
jbeatty, I think it is important to differentiate a discussion around "organic" from one about "organic labels". There are many problems with the labeling system that should not be held against the practice and benefits of organic production.
jbeatty - 11/07/13 16:11
I think organic is sort of a bullshit term used to make more money on processed foods. There are plenty of farms that are producing organic food don't have the label, because they didn't pay the USDA for the privilege. I will totally buy Organic, Local, Heirloom if it tastes really good. I'm fortunate to be able to buy the foods that I want for the most part. Frequently I see no reason to buy organic unless it looks spectacular. I buy local mostly because I like stuff that hasn't been sitting around for a week or longer. But I will never pay $8/lb for cherries, I'm looking at you Whole Foods!
I think organic is sort of a bullshit term used to make more money on processed foods. There are plenty of farms that are producing organic food don't have the label, because they didn't pay the USDA for the privilege. I will totally buy Organic, Local, Heirloom if it tastes really good. I'm fortunate to be able to buy the foods that I want for the most part. Frequently I see no reason to buy organic unless it looks spectacular. I buy local mostly because I like stuff that hasn't been sitting around for a week or longer. But I will never pay $8/lb for cherries, I'm looking at you Whole Foods!
tinypliny - 11/07/13 15:09
(e:Joe) - its a hard debate. I agree. :-)
Casey and you bring up an important point which I ignored. The type of foods that we are assessing changes the nature of the debate a bit. The effects of pesticide and chemical residues are pervasive and real. However, the chemistry of these molecules make them fat-soluble and not water-soluble.
If we compare plant-based produce vs. meat-based products, in general, the fat content in plant-based produce is next to negligible (with a few exceptions). Carrying forward this generalization, it is reasonable to assume that per-weight inorganic residues would be substantially low in a majority of produce when compared with animal-based products (without the fat compartment stripped out).
Animal based foods such as fat-free/skim milk stand out as exceptions. Since the fat content is completely stripped out, any residual chemical content is low. However, you don't have any such benefits with whole milk or partially skimmed milk.
(e:lilho), if you are into a lot of animal-based products without stripped out fat compartments, I would seriously consider if I could afford the pesticide/fertilizer-free versions.
(e:Joe) - its a hard debate. I agree. :-)
Casey and you bring up an important point which I ignored. The type of foods that we are assessing changes the nature of the debate a bit. The effects of pesticide and chemical residues are pervasive and real. However, the chemistry of these molecules make them fat-soluble and not water-soluble.
If we compare plant-based produce vs. meat-based products, in general, the fat content in plant-based produce is next to negligible (with a few exceptions). Carrying forward this generalization, it is reasonable to assume that per-weight inorganic residues would be substantially low in a majority of produce when compared with animal-based products (without the fat compartment stripped out).
Animal based foods such as fat-free/skim milk stand out as exceptions. Since the fat content is completely stripped out, any residual chemical content is low. However, you don't have any such benefits with whole milk or partially skimmed milk.
(e:lilho), if you are into a lot of animal-based products without stripped out fat compartments, I would seriously consider if I could afford the pesticide/fertilizer-free versions.
joe - 11/07/13 14:19
(e:lilho) Yeah I like Trader Joe's produce. It's more expensive than Aldi, but more often than more selection both non-organic and organic, and cheap compared to Wegman's and the coop. Doesn't seem to be local, and I wish they didn't overpackage it so much.
(e:lilho) Yeah I like Trader Joe's produce. It's more expensive than Aldi, but more often than more selection both non-organic and organic, and cheap compared to Wegman's and the coop. Doesn't seem to be local, and I wish they didn't overpackage it so much.
joe - 11/07/13 14:14
Sorry if the post seemed incomplete. I wrote it quickly during lunch.
a) I guess I have to clarify - Paul never specifically said yesterday that the coop is always high quality. By quality in that first statement I meant that Wegman's and the coop tend to have more local and more organic choices than Aldi/Price Rite/Save a lot do. I do think the produce from those two definitely tends to be nicer though, which is reflected in the price.
b) I also agree that nutritionally, organic is on the same level as conventional. However residual pesticides and fertilizers have been found to be typically higher in conventional produce :::link::: Even if it is under the acceptable limits, does long term exposure matter? Briefly looking at the review you linked to, it looks that while nutrition is looking to be a wash, pesticides aren't
c) Also agreed. I think a portion of the price difference has less to do with quality, and more to do with marketing and the fact that organic is "trendy". I don't necessairly have any data to support that besides the fact the Organic Trade Association cites huge growth. :::link:::
e) I will agree with you there. The population and nutrition levels we have globally today are absolutely dependent on petroleum based farming - from the fertilizers to the pesticides to the transportation. I don't think it would have been possible otherwise.
f) Yes, which is why I think organic/etc. is a luxury. If you are struggling to keep yourself full and balanced nutritionally, wondering whether your apples are organic is the last thing on your mind. But for those who do have the income or options to do otherwise, is the impact worth the cost? I'd say I'm on the borderline of that option. It is for sure a privilege if I did, not a necessity.
g) I would rather see my dollars kept locally if possible. This is definitely selfish - I'd prefer to see Buffalo and WNY succeed over other areas. From that viewpoint, local is the way to go, quality not considered. The question is how much am more am I willing to pay to commit to that.
I don't think there is anything wrong with shopping at Aldi or Price Rite - I still get all of my groceries from Aldi and Trader Joe's. I definitely agree with you that organic is not reasonable in it's current form for those on a poverty or near-poverty level, or to feed 7 billion people. Nutritionally I think it's a wash, long term health benefits, pesticide wise, are unclear. In terms of environmental impact, if I can pay more for produce that requires less pesticide and petrofertilizer, or is not transported long distance, is that worth my dollar? I don't think it's an easy conclusion to come to.
Sorry if the post seemed incomplete. I wrote it quickly during lunch.
a) I guess I have to clarify - Paul never specifically said yesterday that the coop is always high quality. By quality in that first statement I meant that Wegman's and the coop tend to have more local and more organic choices than Aldi/Price Rite/Save a lot do. I do think the produce from those two definitely tends to be nicer though, which is reflected in the price.
b) I also agree that nutritionally, organic is on the same level as conventional. However residual pesticides and fertilizers have been found to be typically higher in conventional produce :::link::: Even if it is under the acceptable limits, does long term exposure matter? Briefly looking at the review you linked to, it looks that while nutrition is looking to be a wash, pesticides aren't
As was mentioned above, pesticide residues form part of the
dangerous food contaminants known to exert genotoxic, carcino-
genic, neuro-destructive, endocrine and allergenic effects, and are
usually found in higher contents in conventionally produced plant
products. There is scientific evidence that dietary exposure of chil-
dren to organophosphorus pesticides, measured as the level of
pesticide metabolites in urine, is much lower on an organic than on
a conventional diet [49]. It can be concluded that consumption of
organic foods provides protection against exposure to organophos-
phorus pesticides commonly used in agricultural practices [50].
c) Also agreed. I think a portion of the price difference has less to do with quality, and more to do with marketing and the fact that organic is "trendy". I don't necessairly have any data to support that besides the fact the Organic Trade Association cites huge growth. :::link:::
e) I will agree with you there. The population and nutrition levels we have globally today are absolutely dependent on petroleum based farming - from the fertilizers to the pesticides to the transportation. I don't think it would have been possible otherwise.
f) Yes, which is why I think organic/etc. is a luxury. If you are struggling to keep yourself full and balanced nutritionally, wondering whether your apples are organic is the last thing on your mind. But for those who do have the income or options to do otherwise, is the impact worth the cost? I'd say I'm on the borderline of that option. It is for sure a privilege if I did, not a necessity.
g) I would rather see my dollars kept locally if possible. This is definitely selfish - I'd prefer to see Buffalo and WNY succeed over other areas. From that viewpoint, local is the way to go, quality not considered. The question is how much am more am I willing to pay to commit to that.
I don't think there is anything wrong with shopping at Aldi or Price Rite - I still get all of my groceries from Aldi and Trader Joe's. I definitely agree with you that organic is not reasonable in it's current form for those on a poverty or near-poverty level, or to feed 7 billion people. Nutritionally I think it's a wash, long term health benefits, pesticide wise, are unclear. In terms of environmental impact, if I can pay more for produce that requires less pesticide and petrofertilizer, or is not transported long distance, is that worth my dollar? I don't think it's an easy conclusion to come to.
YesThatCasey - 11/07/13 14:08
Organic is shown to be beneficial to health in some foods, so it is worth identifying which those are are starting with them. In some cases, there is zero benefit to buying "organic" labeled food.
Similarly, local is often better. I would say very often. I don't agree with Tiny that there isn't evidence around us for buying local. The amount of resources, both human and natural, involved in non-local products is just ridiculous and unsustainable. The more intense the manufacturing process, the more you can justify the shipping investment, but the scales are far too tipped towards the latter at this time. There are plenty of other problems to consider as well (centralization of wealth, loss of buying power, etc).
It's nice that you consider the employees compensation as well. Aldi sounds decent on that front.
What little shopping I do, I pretty much do exclusively at Wegman's. There is a distinct difference between the quality of foods, as you mentioned. I appreciate the increased amount of effort they put into their community, with only the co-op surpassing them. And the happiness of their employees is probably the best sign.
I would shop at the co-op more if my budget could justify it. There is definitely a privilege in these options. But, yeah, I'd say foods are one of the first things to upgrade, and organic, local, free-trade, etc are a part of that. And while it's true that what costs the most isn't necessarily the best, what costs the least is often unconsumable in places like Tops.
Organic is shown to be beneficial to health in some foods, so it is worth identifying which those are are starting with them. In some cases, there is zero benefit to buying "organic" labeled food.
Similarly, local is often better. I would say very often. I don't agree with Tiny that there isn't evidence around us for buying local. The amount of resources, both human and natural, involved in non-local products is just ridiculous and unsustainable. The more intense the manufacturing process, the more you can justify the shipping investment, but the scales are far too tipped towards the latter at this time. There are plenty of other problems to consider as well (centralization of wealth, loss of buying power, etc).
It's nice that you consider the employees compensation as well. Aldi sounds decent on that front.
What little shopping I do, I pretty much do exclusively at Wegman's. There is a distinct difference between the quality of foods, as you mentioned. I appreciate the increased amount of effort they put into their community, with only the co-op surpassing them. And the happiness of their employees is probably the best sign.
I would shop at the co-op more if my budget could justify it. There is definitely a privilege in these options. But, yeah, I'd say foods are one of the first things to upgrade, and organic, local, free-trade, etc are a part of that. And while it's true that what costs the most isn't necessarily the best, what costs the least is often unconsumable in places like Tops.
lilho - 11/07/13 14:02
Also, you can get pretty cheap organic at trader joe's and I'm usually impressed with the quality.
Also, you can get pretty cheap organic at trader joe's and I'm usually impressed with the quality.
lilho - 11/07/13 14:01
Well.... Now I'm done buying organic maybe. I just like knowing its all natural and it feels like I'm doing something for my health but apparently not?
Well.... Now I'm done buying organic maybe. I just like knowing its all natural and it feels like I'm doing something for my health but apparently not?
tinypliny - 11/07/13 13:24
Aldi and Trader Joe's are run by the same company, BTW.
I do not agree with Paul that:
a) the coop is always high quality
b) organic is any better for health
c) paying more means you get more "quality"
d) quality is not available at reasonable prices
e) organic is sustainable in the long run
f) organic is good for a population struggling with affordable and basic healthful food choices
g) local is always the way to go.
We live in a global economy and it is borderline ridiculous to be stuck in the buy-local buy-organic rut at all times without hard evidence-supported benefits. Science is far from being black and white about why organic is any better. Take a look: :::link:::
And I am sure (e:Paul) will agree when I point out that he is a snob{*}. Not all of us can afford to turn up our noses at Pricerite when the primary objective is to maintain a good health status and meet nutritional requirements while being on a near-poverty line or low income salary.
It is hard to cater to some activist notion of selling our soul and budgets for unperceivable benefits to our health or to the (for the most part) unregulated "organic" industry when you are wondering how best to afford the maximum proportion of fresh produce that definitely will stop you from sliding into the spiral of chronic diseases - most of which are poor diet related.
{*}He said so himself. :-)
More debate from the past: :::link:::
{Look at the comments section for massive debate!} :::link:::
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Paul being snobbish :::link::: :::link::: :::link:::
Aldi and Trader Joe's are run by the same company, BTW.
I do not agree with Paul that:
a) the coop is always high quality
b) organic is any better for health
c) paying more means you get more "quality"
d) quality is not available at reasonable prices
e) organic is sustainable in the long run
f) organic is good for a population struggling with affordable and basic healthful food choices
g) local is always the way to go.
We live in a global economy and it is borderline ridiculous to be stuck in the buy-local buy-organic rut at all times without hard evidence-supported benefits. Science is far from being black and white about why organic is any better. Take a look: :::link:::
And I am sure (e:Paul) will agree when I point out that he is a snob{*}. Not all of us can afford to turn up our noses at Pricerite when the primary objective is to maintain a good health status and meet nutritional requirements while being on a near-poverty line or low income salary.
It is hard to cater to some activist notion of selling our soul and budgets for unperceivable benefits to our health or to the (for the most part) unregulated "organic" industry when you are wondering how best to afford the maximum proportion of fresh produce that definitely will stop you from sliding into the spiral of chronic diseases - most of which are poor diet related.
{*}He said so himself. :-)
More debate from the past: :::link:::
{Look at the comments section for massive debate!} :::link:::
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Paul being snobbish :::link::: :::link::: :::link:::
11/07/2013 04:35 #58258
Night Lights at GriffisCategory: art
Tuesday night, (e:paul), (e:terry) and I went with (e:YesThatCasey), (e:Dianne), (e:Heidi) and Tanya out to Griffis Sculpture Park for the night lights. I hadn't been there before, but it looks like it'd be amazing to walk around especially on a nice day .
I'm not big on art so I can't tell you much about the statues except that they were huge and pretty cool. I'm especially a sucker for LEDs, and they had some amazing lamps thrown on some of the statues. I thought the best were the lasers projected on a bunch of tiny rotating mirrors. in the dense trees, the green lasers almost made it look like there were fireflies everywhere. Possible arduino project?
I brought my Canon, but had so much trouble hand holding in such low light, even wide open. I'll have to go through and post what turned out well.
I'm not big on art so I can't tell you much about the statues except that they were huge and pretty cool. I'm especially a sucker for LEDs, and they had some amazing lamps thrown on some of the statues. I thought the best were the lasers projected on a bunch of tiny rotating mirrors. in the dense trees, the green lasers almost made it look like there were fireflies everywhere. Possible arduino project?
I brought my Canon, but had so much trouble hand holding in such low light, even wide open. I'll have to go through and post what turned out well.
metalpeter - 11/08/13 20:42
very Nice .... I would think holding camera still enough could be very tough not sure if two hands is really better or not ????
very Nice .... I would think holding camera still enough could be very tough not sure if two hands is really better or not ????
sina - 11/08/13 00:21
marvelous!! I like to be there one day.
marvelous!! I like to be there one day.
joe - 11/07/13 08:39
Guess it's unclear, lol! In one of the big statues you can climb in, the ceiling was covered in ladybugs! Paul says it's probably where they kept themselves warm during the day.
Guess it's unclear, lol! In one of the big statues you can climb in, the ceiling was covered in ladybugs! Paul says it's probably where they kept themselves warm during the day.
tinypliny - 11/07/13 07:36
Ladybug on a dark wall?
Ladybug on a dark wall?
11/05/2013 15:17 #58250
No love for old ZunesCategory: crime
Yesterday afternoon, I opened up my car to find my glove compartment and center console emptied out onto the passenger seat. I usually leave my door unlocked because I don't keep anything valuable in my car and I don't want my window smashed. I've never had a problem. But bish we ain't in Kenilworth anymore.
Of course they didn't find anything to take because I don't even have change in my car. They even left my old first gen Zune in there. I guess nobody would want one, even for free.
Of course they didn't find anything to take because I don't even have change in my car. They even left my old first gen Zune in there. I guess nobody would want one, even for free.
sina - 11/08/13 00:06
What a wonderful event!!!
What a wonderful event!!!
joe - 11/07/13 08:42
(e:Paul) maybe they're all the same bougie robbers, can't be seen slumming it on stolen Windows PCs.
And yeah, (e:tinypliny) - it's a beast! It was about twice as thick as my sisters iPod Video from the same time.
(e:Paul) maybe they're all the same bougie robbers, can't be seen slumming it on stolen Windows PCs.
And yeah, (e:tinypliny) - it's a beast! It was about twice as thick as my sisters iPod Video from the same time.
tinypliny - 11/06/13 20:20
They probably thought it was dead. And whoa - that looks bulky.
They probably thought it was dead. And whoa - that looks bulky.
paul - 11/05/13 17:10
My buddy at work was just telling me how the Best Buy story in Amherst was robbed and they only took macs. Even robbers don't want MS stuff.
My buddy at work was just telling me how the Best Buy story in Amherst was robbed and they only took macs. Even robbers don't want MS stuff.
11/07/2013 08:23 #58261
Park-in at ParksideCategory: cars
Yesterday I left work early to head up to the Park-In on Parkside, a protest to support changing the traffic configuration of Parkside Avenue. The goal is to reduce the four lanes of traffic to two, either with two parking lanes or a center turn and bike lanes. A "road diet" on a congested street like Parkside typically makes traffic flow smoother with less accidents, since you don't have cars constantly merging and changing lanes from other cars parking and turning. (Road Diet wiki) Same volume, less area.
There were probably about 30 people, a good mix of drivers, pedestrians and cyclists at Sweetness 7. The drivers all parked their cars in the outer lanes to make the street two lanes, and we all held signs protesting to passing cars. Surprisingly we didn't get too many angry drivers and seemed to get more honks to support us rather than people flipping us the bird.
Eventually the po-po showed up with 4 cars plus the police chief. They weren't aggressive or anything but isn't that an overreaction? I'm sure 3 of those cars would have been much more useful on patrol. And why did the chief need to come? Anyway, they threatened to give tickets to anyone who didn't move their cars. A few people refused to and took the tickets.
I hope that something comes out of it. There was a decent amount of press coverage from Channel 4 and 2, and the petition got over 300 signatures not counting the internet ones. If you want to sign it, you can online here.
A little dramatic, but why not!
Popo no 1
Traffic was pretty backed up with everyone rubbernecking
This school bus driver was so pumped up and was honking a ton
Henry from GO Bike - awesome guy
The po-lice shut us downnnn
Negotiation
I hadn't actually been to Sweetness 7 on Parkside before. The owner, Prish Moran was super friendly, the shop was pretty cool and there was free beer from Community Beer Works, aw yeah. On the way home, I stopped at Aldi, then took the metro back from Lasalle Station. It was the first time for me on NFTA since the summer. I need to make it my backup after my bike again, rather than my car.
I didn't know Sweetness 7 had a liquor license either.
Cute cell phone booth - who really makes that many calls anymore?
The tudor building across from Sweetness is getting redone - last use was a restaurant I think? Unfortunately they're removing the stucco for vinyl, yuck.
Ride home
There were probably about 30 people, a good mix of drivers, pedestrians and cyclists at Sweetness 7. The drivers all parked their cars in the outer lanes to make the street two lanes, and we all held signs protesting to passing cars. Surprisingly we didn't get too many angry drivers and seemed to get more honks to support us rather than people flipping us the bird.
Eventually the po-po showed up with 4 cars plus the police chief. They weren't aggressive or anything but isn't that an overreaction? I'm sure 3 of those cars would have been much more useful on patrol. And why did the chief need to come? Anyway, they threatened to give tickets to anyone who didn't move their cars. A few people refused to and took the tickets.
I hope that something comes out of it. There was a decent amount of press coverage from Channel 4 and 2, and the petition got over 300 signatures not counting the internet ones. If you want to sign it, you can online here.
A little dramatic, but why not!
Popo no 1
Traffic was pretty backed up with everyone rubbernecking
This school bus driver was so pumped up and was honking a ton
Henry from GO Bike - awesome guy
The po-lice shut us downnnn
Negotiation
I hadn't actually been to Sweetness 7 on Parkside before. The owner, Prish Moran was super friendly, the shop was pretty cool and there was free beer from Community Beer Works, aw yeah. On the way home, I stopped at Aldi, then took the metro back from Lasalle Station. It was the first time for me on NFTA since the summer. I need to make it my backup after my bike again, rather than my car.
I didn't know Sweetness 7 had a liquor license either.
Cute cell phone booth - who really makes that many calls anymore?
The tudor building across from Sweetness is getting redone - last use was a restaurant I think? Unfortunately they're removing the stucco for vinyl, yuck.
Ride home
libertad - 11/09/13 10:35
Sounds like a really great idea so I signed the petition. They should definitely look into it and see if it is feasible ie. it doesn't back up traffic too much. I don't feel like biking into N. buffalo is at all biker friendly and would welcome SOMETHING to make it better, thankfully I have no need to go in that direction on my bike.
Sounds like a really great idea so I signed the petition. They should definitely look into it and see if it is feasible ie. it doesn't back up traffic too much. I don't feel like biking into N. buffalo is at all biker friendly and would welcome SOMETHING to make it better, thankfully I have no need to go in that direction on my bike.
joe - 11/08/13 08:03
Yeah I realize it sounded confusing, that's what I get for not proofreading!
Definitely, which is why I hope this moves forward. I encourage you to sign the petition and write a letter to Mayor Brown (Mayor@city-buffalo.com) and DPW Commissioner Steven Stepniak (sstepniak@city-buffalo.com) if you support ideas like this!
Yeah I realize it sounded confusing, that's what I get for not proofreading!
Definitely, which is why I hope this moves forward. I encourage you to sign the petition and write a letter to Mayor Brown (Mayor@city-buffalo.com) and DPW Commissioner Steven Stepniak (sstepniak@city-buffalo.com) if you support ideas like this!
Robert - 11/08/13 07:30
At first your post confused the shit out of me. I took it literal and thought you were actually protesting the change, and thought "he doesn't seem like that type??? I would think he would rally for a road diet"
Protesting road congestion and dangerous driving conditions is a worthy cause. I wish there were more drive-ins like this.
At first your post confused the shit out of me. I took it literal and thought you were actually protesting the change, and thought "he doesn't seem like that type??? I would think he would rally for a road diet"
Protesting road congestion and dangerous driving conditions is a worthy cause. I wish there were more drive-ins like this.
YesThatCasey - 11/07/13 14:25
Damn, I wanted to do this with ya, but it slipped my mind. Glad you joined them.
Damn, I wanted to do this with ya, but it slipped my mind. Glad you joined them.
No wonder you have such a hot bod.... It's from all the biking. Be careful out there!
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So sad to hear! but I am happy that you are ok and fine!
take care dear
Sorry to hear you got hit but glad you and your bike are ok. I know that riding on the sidewalk is dangerous but I tend to think it is much safer than taking a lane on Route 5. I feel the same way about Delaware where there is no bike lane. Just don't trust people to not hit me because they didn't see me or thought there was more room than there really is.
I am so glad you are okay. The rest does not matter!