So As I'm sure everyone has heard there has been a lot of stuff in the New about Four Loko. I have a few links about it down below with some stories I copied and in "s down below. It is funny that the best ones I found where reposted on facebook wish I would have thought to write this then instead of now but oh well. Do I have to say this is my take or since it is a blog is it assumed?
1. There is Claim that when you have Caffeine in alcoholic drinks that it makes it so you can't tell how drunk you are... Not sure if that is true or not but since it pumps you up it makes sense...
2. If 1 is true then can it be dangerous... Yes but anything can be. Smoke enough your lungs die. To Much alcohol you die. To Much Cocaine heart attack. This is true of most things. If you think about it makes sense. High amount of alcohol in a big can and many of these drinks are very sweet so you can see how it would be easy to over do it, in fact I did with Joose

But it is very tasty...
3. But see Danger is the point.. If you drink something that constricts blood Vessels and then speeds up your heart or body or gets you moving it could be dangerous...
4. The Point is when something is Dangerous people want to ban it. Do you ban cars? No. How about ATVs and other dangerous things ? Um no. Here is an Idea how about some Education and teaching people how to be safe.....
5. Binge drinking is a real thing and people drink to get really messed up or chugging beers. This has happened for a long time and will continue to happen. Yes young people die from it all the time and it won't stop anytime soon. I think that the people who got really sick off of four Loko did so cause they where into this activity.. It isn't four loko that caused it, it is the activity the stuff is around 10 or 12% alcohol....
6. Yes when sparks came out and also Tilt They where marketed as energy drinks with alcohol. Now some have said that this confuses people that people think they are energy drinks. I do think that some people might think that... But they are only sold with other alcohol so you should know they aren't a regular energy drink so I don't buy that.
So I guess the way I Bottom Line this is that I think they should be legal and Just have a warning on them. Now I know that hurts the marketing but you still have most of the can or maybe you could make them have a cling sign that attaches to the cooler doors that is a warning. If a store doesn't have one then the their is some kind of fine from the FDA.. Everyone shouldn't be hurt by some people who can't control there alcohol intake... They should be Drink at your own risk.....
Now I do have one other issue about this entire thing. If this combo is so Dangerous then why aren't they going to go after the bars and restaurants where you can order right off the menu a Vodka and Redbull or a Vodka and Diablo Energy drink (very tasty at club Diablo). See there is this double standard that pisses me off. They won't go and make that mix illegal in a bar (how would you enforce it since they don't only sell alcohol you can't make them not sell energy drinks). But that isn't why. I think they are in bed with the bars. I almost wonder if the bars are tied in to this somehow. Yes I'm glad they aren't going this far cause I like that mix, I also like Jagger and redbull as a mix Yummy... But it is still a double standard. Why is it that a few people have to go and ruin it for everyone else... This isn't just in here in so many other things it just pisses me off.
On a side note Today I did buy two flavors of Four Loko one is grape and I forget what the other one is they have a bunch of flavors and I got a huge thing of a purple can of tilt. Maybe I'll buy more types just to try them , cause I won't be able to have them much longer ARgh..................
I remember there being Controversy over a Drink I liked called sparks it was pretty good. It tastes like an energy Drink but has alcohol in it... The Wiki Page

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History
Created in 2002 by San Francisco-based beverage marketing firm McKenzie River Corporation, early marketing relied on word of mouth primed by giving away large quantities of the beverage.[2].Between 2003 and 2005, it had a 107% compound annual growth rate.[3]
On August 14, 2006, Miller Brewing Company announced it had completed the purchase of Sparks from McKenzie River Corp. for $215 million cash.[4] Miller had been producing Sparks prior to this purchase.[5] It is currently producing it under the Steel Brewing Company label of Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
In September 2008, the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit watchdog and consumer advocacy group, sued MillerCoors, claiming that its Sparks alcoholic beverages that include caffeine are a health hazard.[6] Three months later, at the behest of San Francisco and 13 states, distributor MillerCoors LLC announced it would remove the caffeine from its Sparks line of energy drinks, and would change its marketing campaign.[7] "We're doing it to protect the public health of our young people and to reform business practices," said S.F. City Attorney Dennis Herrera.[8]
Maybe it is Just Me but I think this is all Schumer's Idea to shut these people down
Four Loko Drinks to be Prohibited by Government
Posted November 18, 2010 4:32 PM
Four Loko is the target of new legislative efforts aimed at protecting Americans from the dangerous mix of caffeine and alcohol. The federal government will make products such as Four Loko, Joose and other caffeinated alcoholic beverages prohibited for U.S. sale, a senator says.
Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., said Tuesday the Food and Drug Administration will rule caffeine is an unsafe food additive to alcoholic beverages and therefore prohibited for sale in the United States.
Last month, nine college students from Central Washington University in Ellensburg, Wash., fell ill at a house party in Roslyn, Wash. The students were hospitalized and one student almost died. "Let these rulings serve as a warning to anyone who tried to peddle dangerous and toxic brews to our children. Do it and we will shut you down," Schumer said in a statement Tuesday.
"This ruling should be the nail in the coffin of these dangerous and toxic drinks. Parents should be able to rest a little easier knowing that soon their children won't have access to this deadly brew." Drinks such as Four Loko and Joose have as much as two to three coffee cups' worth of caffeine and two to three cans of beer per container, a combination that can be extremely hazardous for teens as well as adults, Schumer said.
Schumer said he has been applying intense pressure to have these drinks banned because of serious risks to the health and safety of consumers.
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So Never read this site before but they have an article with a video of part of a Vigil For Four Loko..
In the wake of its inevitable ban, Four Loko, the drink that nobody really drinks but everyone loves to memorialize, continues to inspire more feats of absurdity. On Monday filmmaker Ryan Jones drank the stuff to scientifically guage how potent it is. On Wednesday Assemblyman Felix Ortiz imbibed three in a nearby hospital to monitor its effects.
Last night fans of the "blackout in a can" gathered in Union Square for a Four Loko vigil. Fans of the drink sang songs of support, lit candles and told stories about their best (or worst) Four Loko experiences. Even the 8-bit techno band Anamanaguchi came to show their support.
The Village Voice was there to report this moving and somber event:
Soon, the crowd began to light candles and, in turn, use those candles to light their cigarettes. A few mourners stepped forward to share their Four Loko stories. "Every time I drank a Four Loko, something terrible happened," one said, then, when the applause settled, concluded, "And each time, I grew from it." A less enthusiastic round of applause followed.
Not Sure where to start:
1. Never thought this would get so many Comments and there have been a bunch of great ones.
2. Debating the Future and where you think tech will is fun
No Technology is good or bad. It is how it is used. Granted there are a lot of crappy things that are bad. But there are also things that inspire creativity and Imagination. To bad they are mostly kid shows and things on like history channel.....
The Only thing with 3D TV is that you currently need glasses for it still.........
I had few other points that got lost someplace in my mind
Oh, and btw, the R. Lauren show was 4D because at 6:03 in the video, they actually sprayed the crowd with a mist of their latest perfume. hahaha
Wow. The concept of sleeper-spies. It came up in so many episodes on my former-favourite show (Spooks) that I think I believe it. :-)
Oooh (e:metalpeter), did you ever see the launch of that Ralph Lauren 4D show -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S4xbKYw528
The future is 3D projection! I am telling ya, TV is not where the future is. :-)
"The Luddites were a social movement of British textile artisans in the nineteenth century who protested – often by destroying mechanised looms – against the changes produced by the Industrial Revolution, which they felt were leaving them without work and changing their way of life. It took its name from Ned Ludd." *From wikipedia.
I guess that sounds just about right. I am opposed to mechanization of thought and enslavement of spirit by the couch potato revolution sweeping the planet. I feel that it is leaving us without imagination and changing our way of active life for the worst. :-)
But, yes, I would like to have a 60" HDTV mounted on my wall as my computer monitor. Hmmmm... I would love a high resolution projector covering my ENTIRE wall even better, because of a smaller footprint, more mobility and flexibility. In fact, I am waiting for projector prices to come down so that I can get rid of monitor one day and just have a really really high resolution projector that can project my laptop ANYWHERE and would weight around 5kg or less.
(e:uncutsaniflush) - that comment is hot.
(e:tinypliny) - You wrote "Meanwhile, just throw your TV out." I think you are starting to sound like a Luddite. Perhaps you dont realize that newish HDTVs are, for all practical purposes, big computer monitors with tv tuners within. If you have a desktop or laptop or nettop or netbook with HDMI and a television set with HDMI, you can access the internet on your television.
I would suggest is that what you meant to say was "Get rid of your cable TV provider and get your network television content from the internet until the networks start charging for that as well."
Unless, of course, you think that computer monitors are morally superior to tv sets.
One Thing that got me thinking about this was what happened with the movie I wanted to see , but also my one TV's color is messed up so I have to brighten it up but it makes all the blues and red's really storng and faces are red. So I'm trying to decide how big and want kind of TV. If I could get good over the air reception with an HD TV That might be the way to go, wish I understood how those Sonys work besides I don't have the cash. I also wonder about if a 3D tv is worth it, and do they make 3D porn that would be wild?
In Terms of Paying for sports still not sure about the money aspect? But what I do know is that (don't watch college) is you can pay to watch College football somehow. Also NBC has sunday night football (again Haven't tried it) and you can watch it enhanced on the net... You pick the camera angles and view (like a video game)... My Gut is that football will stay on the air, but also you will be able to pay for games so you can watch what ever one you want. That is what the Direct TV thing is kinda. You pay so much and get to (assuming not blacked out in your city) watch every game. But what you are really paying for is two things. If the game is bad you can switch. But really so you can watch the teams you like. There are Steeler fans in Buffalo but good luck trying to follow them here. I do think that will go PPV over the Internet soon. I just think that Football is such a big screen event there will need to be more of those Sony Internet TVs for sale. I say about 5-10 years as the HD TVs start to lose quality over time of a normal set.....
1st of all I will admit some of this is new to me, I have never heard of the white panther party.... But that way of thinking that you explain does seem to make sense. If we believe what our parents tell us as do people here it would make sense that we could be used for their agenda. I have seen kids pre teen with signs that say I have two Birthdays (well my understanding is you can't be a kid and be born again but I could be wrong, that you have to lose faith or get into trouble and then find gods ways again, or something like that). The Point is if kids can be used at rally's why not spies it is a great idea (doubt it would really work)
Google has the Tech and has used it in China why not here. Now some might say that sounds crazy. Well aren't the two Koreas still at war. Don't have the news on the recent conflict of today or yesterday. But couldn't the US monitor all chat of all Koreans to make sure that koreans in the US aren't going to side with the communists and blow stuff up here so we don't back our allies... It isn't crazy we locked up Japanese people in camps....
My Political side could see Bush doing something like this when he was in office so that the people using the net could only get pro USA stuff. Oh you think that didn't happen in the past. I wasn't there but I heard that is how the News was in WWII. War Protest never. Now some people think that Obama and his side would like to control information and they have a valid point. What if (not saying he will) he sides with out allies and the Korean War II breaks out. Now lets just say there was no TV (forget the radio for a second) and all News was shows on the internet (just saying) The Government could control what we see and our views on the war.
(e:tinypliny) - My father was fairly high up in the Polish Military food chain. His military career was destroyed by my mother emigrating to the U.S. and bringing me. Also, my godmother's husband was some sort important Communist party minister. If you believe contemporary reports, during the Cold War, it was thought that children were groomed to be sleeper spies that would do the biding of their Iron Curtain masters once adult. Rumor had it that all children from behind the Iron Curtain had some sort of FBI file about them.
When I was at the University of Detroit, my circle of acquaintances included anarchists and people associated with John Sinclair's White Panther party. Some of them routinuely checked their files under the Freedom of Information Act and that's how I found out.
Oooh, you have an FBI file?! Really? Why?
(e:tinypliny) or should I say pliny the younger?? You assume that just because you are doing nothing wrong, the U.S. government won't fuck with you or even be interested in you. That is an erroneous assumption.
Apparently from what I've been told (I never asked for my records under the Freedom of Information Act but people that I know did), I've had an FBI file to the FBI since I was 6 years old primarily because of who my father was.
I assume everything that I do both online and off is of interest to the U.S. government.
When fear is rampant, chasing shadows is a feel good solution to fighting fear and terrorism for the U.S. government. it is important to remember that the U.S. broke every treaty it made with the "Indians". I that Joe McCarty's ghost is active in Washington,DC. And I think the new crop of McCarty zombies have even less shame than the erstwhile senator.
Orwellian paranoia is all well and good, but personally I couldn't care less if someone is spying on what I do day-to-day. I pity their life if they feel the need to spy on my super-dull existence!
Yeah - I didn't think of all those people. I guess people still listen to the radio and TV is here. I think the time is not far when the net will be a necessity for communication - like phones. Then, media and transmission will really start to change. (e:uncutsaniflush)'s example is a good illustration of such a change.
Meanwhile, just throw your TV out. You will suddenly find a lot of quality time and discover things you never thought of before. Better yet, come to salsa class with me during you regular TV time! :-)
(e:metalpeter) - I think your analysis is brilliant. Which is another way to say that I mostly agree with you. I was going to write something along the same lines but you beat me to the punch.
Unlike you, I think that eventually that there will be big NFL type dollars in internet content. I can forsee a day that internet content providers charge for subscriptions to their sites or pay per view for sporting events. I think mobile broadband internet content will hasten this happening. Already you can get NFL games on your smart phone. It's just a matter of time before charging for such stuff comes common place.
Imagine being at a Bills or Sabres game and being able to watch the game on your smartphone with the ability to control your own replays. I bet a lot of people would pay for that. But, as always, I could be wrong.
That being said there will all ways be TV and here is why..
1. You have people still that don't have cable they don't have the money for cable those people use normal TVs. As an example of this when singles went digital you had converter boxes so those old tvs would work... There will all ways be this part of society who doesn't have the money to go out and buy some wastefull computer so they can pay for a show it is pretty stupid to pay for a show you can watch for free.
2. The People on the fringe. Yes there are people who believe the internet is monitored like it is in China, and it may not be yet but some of it is watched by the government for sure.....
3. Got some bad news for the techs Analog is better then digital. I watch a bunch of TV. A slight snow to a picture is ok. But you know what isn't pixels and glitchs. Yes with digital there is all ways a glitch and you miss some of it if you watch long enough. Now the crazy people me included think that this is if you record it, it won't be in perfect condition makes you wonder if it is being monitored.
The Networks pay a lot of money for the NFL right and some other sports. Advertisers pay to put content on during those shows. Take all that money and give the teams that money and it used to be $1 over the salery cap. I'm sorry but I don't think there is that kind of money on the internet I really don't. I think the movement should be away from the Cable Companies. I think If you want hbo you can pay them and they send a single to you through the air and it is decoded.
In Terms of Security it is better not to have the internet have all the TV anyways. Say there is a cyber attack or better even the cable lines or phone lines go down. It could turn into mass panic and riots in the street. Now with an over the air signale all you need is enough electricty to recieve it. New Tech isn't all ways the best.
I do think that if the dishes can figure out how to on demand with out downloads and get as good as cable is it could be the end of cable. Again here in terms of National Security I think there could be away to send a signal that the dishes could pick up.....
In any event it will be intersting to see what happens. I say get out those rabit ears and watch all the stuff on HD on a nice tv is the future for some and for some it is Internet TV. Sony changed music for ever with the walkman maybe those new TVs will chang tv the same way?
I know you know about Dr. Horrible's sing-along blog. But did you take a closer look at how it was marketed? It was groundbreaking. It went directly from the net to DVD. The strategy was pure genius. It has outsold many other traditional TV shows (backed of course by some beautiful acting, superb music and an ultra-ridiculous storyline!).
"The Problem with that is if everyone turned off the TV then there would be no shows and since no shows then they wouldn't be on the net either."
AHA! Nopes, I don't agree with that. TV will evolve. It already has evolved. Look at Google TV: :::link::: Old mediums need to go out and new interactive shows will come in. Ads will still be on all content. For eg. look at youtube videos. There are subtle ads everywhere. Media is a dynamic concept (e:metalpeter). It is inherently determined by the behaviours of its consumers. I think traditional TV is on its way out and the sooner we usher in its demise, the better it will be for the evolution to more intelligent and interactively-engineered content.
Oh one other good thing about time warner is they have CBC (great coverage of some things wish we could get the other candian channels like much music and there is some channel that after 11pm has nudity). .....
(e:tinypliny) you bring up an interesting point. With out understanding all the money stuff there are some people who will do that, not I, Not Yet. I am kinda wondering if some day soon over the air waves will be better that is harder to control (ok seen way to many movies). The Problem with that is if everyone turned off the TV then there would be no shows and since no shows then they wouldn't be on the net either. That being said though I watch this show called The Walking Dead on AMC. There is no free way (at least legit) to see it online anywhere. Also at Amazon you could preorder the 1st season after like the 2nd episode. I think that for some the wave of the future is that you pay for an episode over the internet and then it has no ads. Ads are what pays for tv show it all ways has been and all ways will be. That is why PBS has donnors.... Ok back to more of this later Football Time.....
Just throw your TV out or give it away. Just think - all this agony will go away. Get a high speed net connection and watch whatever you like online.
The thing with fox happens all the time, the down side is that Fox decided to cry in public about. Cable and dish companies pay what is called a retransmission fee and that is what Time Warner and Fox 29's owners are fighting about. They need each other and will get it settled, but not without Fox 29's owner inspiring a little fear ahead of time to increase a little pressure.