Who's being selfish when both people love each other as much as any two people could, but one dose or doesn't want something so they part?
I've seen this happen a bunch before. There's…er was, this really cool couple who used to live upstairs from me when I lived in Allentown, that are clearly no longer together. They seemed to be made for one another. He was one of the coolest break dancers I've ever know and she painted everything she ever owned bright pink. I think she still has a few colors in her hair. I've since seen the dude at parties and bars. He often looks rather dejected and kinda alone, but he would always look that way i guess. A bit of a recluse that must have been in heaven to have such an extravert all to him self. So I guess his loneliness is a bit more pronounced of late. When they were dating the girl was faaaat, even if she was stylish. She ran it all off one year and I was like, "Way to go, go for you!" I wondered why anyone could be motivated to get them selves more in shape after they've been in a really long term relationship and got "comfy". Later I saw her with her son and a relatively dis-intersting boyfriend at the Arf Festival and the story just told it self. Made me sad.
Ok there's another account too. A good friend who has what I classify scientifically as a spiny personality. They're good at heart, but you've got to navigate some rather sharp stiff and unyielding aspects before you can enjoy them, found someone who could, but since the girl in the couple wanted a baby eventually (not right away) and he didn't they called it quits and just tried to be friends.
I feel like If you're a man it's in your biology to crave and receive sexual attention that should never cause any further responsibility beyond being the kind of lover your mate expects after having to suffer nocturnal emissions and constant hormonal agitation your whole life since puberty. And if you're a woman your biology entitles you to have something come of all this sex with destructive insensitive brutes and menstrual cycles at some point in your life after having to suffer through it all since you started bleeding weather you were ready or not.
I guess you could view my perspective as a bit jaded or one sided since I have reproduced (albeit not nearly in the most idea situation), but what do you think? I know there are alternatives, but how could anyone watch the love of their lives walk away just because they wanted or didn't want to have a baby, or live in a new town? It's such a cold hard choice, I hope I never have to make it. What choice could cause you to tear your self away from the comfort and security of real love with someone if you ever found it? It's not fun to think of, but if you're brave enough share…
who could say no to a face like this...

I think that love and desire are two different things and they often conflict. If two people are married or in that lifemates type of relationship and one person gets their dream Job, you know that thing they have all ways wanted to do (think the lead in a Broadway play or saving the world or something) Well what if the other person gets their dream Job that thing that they have all ways wanted to be since a kid and one is in NY and one is in LA. How do you pick you can't do you follow love or desire? Oh Yeah and I know nothing about relationships, I'm a bit messed up my self. I wouldn't know how to determine who is the selfish one maybe both people are. I thought that the way a relationship was supposed to work is that you put the happyness /Well being of the other person before your own, or atleast I think that is how it is supposed to be?????????
Ok, I'll be brave.
What if you know that in order to be with the love of your life you have to remove yourself from your friends and family, your neighborhood, your job, and nearly every good experience that comes with those things? Could you say goodbye to everything you know to do some reverse Beverly Hillbillies shit?
Tough call. Some things really are deal breakers (kid vs. no kid is one very good example) and it is a shame to see a perfectly good relationship swirl down the shitter. If you are "comfy" and she gets skinny, new haircut, new clothes, starts putting herself together better, you know damn well you are in trouble and she has one foot out the door. That's not being cynical, that's trusting the experience of millions of men who've had it happen to them. But things don't happen in an instant - things like that happen in part because romance takes diligent work, like cultivating a home garden. If you do not care for it, it will die.
I don't know anything about "romantic" relationships as I'm a total failure; SO take everything I write with a grain of salt.
But from my human cynic in my from your description she was just using the guy as a temporary stop to something better. Especially the whole "self improvement" running to lose a ton of weight thing. To be honest when I was dating an overweight woman I always told her 1/2 jokingly (But in all honestly the truth) that if she ever lost weight that the relationship would be over, as the competition would muscle me out literally. Fast forward a few years, I was kind of quasi dating someone who then got the "surgery" she basically forgot who the F I was as she was chasing cool Ambercrombie and hipster boys. In some ways we are always looking for something better men & women alike, but guys always seem to get caught by making it so obvious, i.e. leaving the wife for the secretary.
Sometimes people just settle for what they can get and deal with in a very controlled environment. There may be some physical attraction, but the glue that keeps things together is a bit of a master/servant type of arraignment i.e. staying with someone because they need a cool place to live or health insurance.
The catch is that us men may see it biologically, which in some way is true. The problem is that women add another layer for which most men can only see with infrared vision assistance. Some guys just have it as they just are lucky stumbling around in the dark ;-)
To be honest it's a good thing people have "dealbreakers." It most likely prevents even more misery in the future. But most people seem to jump into things "blinded by love" and then 5-10 years later things go nuclear when they don't see eye to eye on fundamental things like money.
Yea, I think I topped you in being more "Jaded" but for me I just defeated. I realized that I'm pretty much F'd in the realm of "relationships" whatever that entails. For me I just wish I had a switch to turn off my my head to never seek or crave "it" because I would be so much more productive and not miss when I can't have...
She is so freakin' cute.
Yuck, I don't know the answer to that, except that it's got to be a heartwrenching situation and I hope I'm never in it. But I think I agree- it seems a little nuts to me to let the love of your life go over one thing. Though kids is a pretty big 'thing'...
But, maybe if you disagree on something that huge, you're not 'soulmates' anyway?
Dunno. Boo.
ps how are you? i miss you!