Former Shell Oil Chief, Engineer: Supertankers Could Save the Gulf, So Why Won't BP Listen?
BY Ariel SchwartzThu May 13, 2010
John Hofmeister and Nick Pozzi tell Fast Company how a possible solution to the Gulf Oil spill is sitting under BP's nose.
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Underwater robots, containment domes, top hats, hot taps, junk shots ... the potential fixes to the Gulf Oil Spill sound like they come straight from a cringeworthy disaster flick (or a PR think tank). But what if the solution is right under our noses? What if it's already sitting in the Gulf? John Hofmeister, the former president of Shell Oil, and Nick Pozzi, a former pipeline engineering and operations project manager for Saudi Aramco, think it might be.
According to Hofmeister, oil supertankers could be used to suck up massive amounts of oil--possibly millions of barrels at a time.
In an interview with FastCompany.com, Hofmeister explained that a little-known Saudi oil spill from an offshore platform in the early 1990s dumped more crude into the sea than any spill in U.S. history (think hundreds of millions of gallons). But the government and local press kept it quiet. And that's why one of the big fixes in the Saudi oil spill--the oil-skimming supertanker--hasn't been publicized.
"[They] figured out how to deploy supertankers that had the ability to both intake and discharge liquids in vast quantities with huge pumps," Hofmeister explained. "The supertankers could simply suck in seawater and oil simultaneously--they can hold millions of barrels--and when full, they could discharge oil at a port into tanks where they could separate oil from water. The idea is novel in that you can get massive of oil amounts quickly." Once the supertankers make it to to the port, water can be treated and discharged, and oil can either be used or destroyed.
Pozzi saw the technique used in the Middle East, where it recovered 85% of the oil from the Saudi spill. And he thinks it could work in the Gulf of Mexico. "The only downside is that you tie up oil tankers. That's why we think that BP won't listen to us. They don't want to spend that extra money."
After learning about the supertanker technique a few weeks ago, Hofmeister decided to bring it to the government's attention. "I've been trying to connect engineers with decision-makers at the Coast Guard and in the interior department," he said.
Pozzi and his business partner Jon King have also tried to contact officials, with no luck. "I called the President of BP, got his secretary and then got a call from a lady inside the building we were standing outside of. We never really heard back from her. Nick also knew some people and got one of the men in charge of the spill. He threatened to sue Nick for not going through channels," King said.
But even if BP and the government both approve the technique, it will take a while before it can be implemented. "A lot of these supertankers are sitting on the ocean full of oil. How do you get them empty? It may take some time to organize," Hofmeister explained. And, of course, organizers will have to make sure that the supertankers don't crash into each other. All the more reason to get started now.
BP would be wise to listen to Pozzi, who has 40 years of experience in the oil and gas industry. "It's what you can't see that's going to hurt you for years to come. What you see now is just the tip of the iceberg," he said.
Hofmeister, however, has confidence in the oil spill cleanup effort. "There are 13,000 people organized and engaged at cleaning up this spill. It's kind of remarkable to put that kind of task force together in this kind of time frame," he said. "I think there are very smart people managing this process."
Speaking of that process, BP's latest video as been released, and it shows the failed attempt to lower the cofferdam over the gushing well. Remember, this thing is 98 tons and 40 feet tall. Puts that spewing pipe in perspective.
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05/28/2010 17:00 #51746
Get out there and suck that shit up!05/27/2010 22:16 #51740
We need to stop calling it a spillI lifted these off of flickr. Sorry not to give credit to appropriate people.
these need to go as many places as possible. I think the "authors" would appreciate the free distro as much as the view should appreciate the informative unfiltered truth they provide.
05/20/2010 13:48 #51688
Fishy burpsI made the mistake of buying fish oil that doesn't have the protective coating to prevent fishy burps. Nothing is nastier than having a fishy burp. I got the ones at the Co-Op because they were molecularly distilled to remove heavy metals. It seems I can either have fishy burps or no fishy burps ,but if I want the no fishy burps I have to take the mercury that comes with the fish oil?
I am not a big fan of either fish oil or flax oil. I feel both tend to go rancid so easily and the aftertaste of rancid or old oil makes me want to throw up so bad.
I have tried flax oil before and I felt more of a difference in my skin with the fish oil. Maybe it is all in my head.
The main question here is why do you need fish oil? For the vitamin A and Omega-3s? There are other completely non-fishy sources around.
Thanks! I'll try it.
Try taking them frozen. I dunno why but it works for me.
05/22/2010 22:17 #51712
Biking for life
Published on Saturday, May 22, 2010 by CommonDreams.org
Biking for Life
by Susan Van Haitsma
It's National Bike Month, and I'm thinking about my dad. He's 82 and still riding. In fact, he's still riding the same 3-speed Schwinn bicycle that he purchased, used, from a student soon after he began his teaching career at a small college in Wisconsin about 50 years ago. We lived just 6 blocks from his office on campus, so he walked to work if there was snow or rain, but otherwise, he preferred to bike because it was faster and easier to carry his satchel of books and files in his big wire baskets. In the years since he retired, he's continued to bike all around town to do his local business, becoming a loved and familiar figure on that classic Schwinn.
I realized with some surprise that my dad has never locked his bike. Parked almost daily along a busy road near his office for 35 years, his faithful steed remained untethered and unstolen. The frame is rusty, perhaps acting as a theft deterrent, but he's kept the gears oiled and the tires filled. Over the years, he's replaced the tires a few times, the brake pads and the pedals, but most other parts are original. When it comes to carbon footprint, I figure that the resources used to manufacture, maintain and operate his bike have been amortized over 50 years to zero. Meanwhile, the benefits to the planet have accumulated to produce a rather elegant history of one man taking seriously the promise of a sturdy, green machine to last a lifetime.
My dad hasn't thought of himself as a bicycle activist. He owns and drives a car and is not keen on the idea of giving that up someday. He has considered his bike use mainly a practical measure to save money, move relatively quickly around a compact downtown and work out the kinks from grading papers. But, as the years have gone by and the earth has suffered its oil wounds, I've come to see my dad's example as a green beacon of possibility.
When we are urged by local and national governments to take whatever steps we can in our daily lives to reduce our use of fossil fuels, I picture my dad cruising down the driveway on his 3-speed, headed to a Kiwanis meeting. If he can do this at age 82, the possibilities for most people to make at least some of their local trips by bicycle are endless. Bike to Work Day could be, as it was for my father, an ordinary day.
While my dad has ridden a single bike through five decades of bicycle design transformation, the evolution from cruiser to racer to mountain to hybrid to cruiser turned a perfect revolution as his 1950s-style model came back into fashion. Without meaning to, my dad became cool.
Actually, he was cool all along. Teaching is best done by example, and his quiet daily practice was an environmental lesson on the leading edge of green living. Chugging up and down hills helped preserve his health and the health of those hills. I'm proud of my cool dad. Happy Bike Half-Century to everyone who has rolled along with him!
Susan Van Haitsma lives, bikes and blogs in Austin, Texas at www.makingpeace-in-austin.blogspot.com
I My Self don't ride, but it is nice to know that there is kinda a rental place for them.
Buffalo Blue Bikes rents them. It is a $25 membership and it is more like a sharing system then rental. You should check it out (e:metalpeter). I might see if my Mom wants to do it when she comes for a visit soon.
I forgot to mention My other point. Would Bike Rentals like car share work. Say you catch a train to like some place and you don't to travel underground then get on the bike there. Or maybe (not that it will ever happen cause you have to live over there to see it) If this country ever gets on the high speed train (better then planes) they could have a place to put your bike, I have heard they make bikes that kinda fold down not that I would trust to ride one.
You hear all these green activists and even Barrack talk about the energy problems and getting off foreign oil. They talk about lets go green and get green Jobs here! But they all ways act like cars are the answer. Yes for many people they have to use them, hey when you are going to buy food for the family or Taking the kids to Their Lacrosse game, yeah you kinda still need the car. But why not bike when ever you can. I have never been to NYC or LA but look at all the congestion of cars. What if you could make all those single car loads Bikes they take up a lot less room. Maybe there should be a push towards bikes, not sure the right way to do it, it happened in China (again never been just seen the pictures) on its own (lets not sell them cars anymore they had the right idea in bikes). I know there are a bunch of bike companies, maybe encourage buying American Made bikes or some kind of small incentive for use somehow..........
05/22/2010 17:57 #51708
Train wreckThis appeared in the Buffalo News-
Police identify victim of train-pedestrian accident
Updated: May 22, 2010, 4:31 pm / 1 comment
Published: May 22, 2010, 4:31 pm
The woman killed Friday afternoon in train-pedestrian accident in Buffalo has been identified as Sandra M. Abrams, 37, who had addresses in both Buffalo and Salamanca, Buffalo police said today.
Homicide detectives continue to investigate the accident, which occurred just before 4 p.m. Friday, on tracks near Niagara and Albany streets, where an outbound Amtrak train struck Abrams. She was declared dead at the scene.
I'm surprised the Buffalo News didn't find this themselves. Don't they do any investigating at all? This woman had a warrant out for her arrest for stealing purses in a church.
Warrant issued for woman who stole purses in church
Updated: March 27, 2010, 6:36 am /
Published: March 27, 2010, 12:30 am
An arrest warrant was issued Friday for Sandra M. Abrams, who became notorious for stealing purses during Buffalo church services last fall, after she walked away from an inpatient drug treatment program Monday, authorities said.
Abrams, 36, of North Street, had pleaded guilty Feb. 1 to grand larceny and was sent to the state's Madonna House treatment facility in Lockport. Abrams' lawyer, Andrew C. LoTempio, told State Supreme Court Justice Christopher J. Burns that he has "no knowledge of her whereabouts."
Abrams is scheduled to be sentenced Monday on her guilty plea to felony grand larceny for stealing purses, containing a total of about $22 in cash and credit cards from four Buffalo churches in November. She had been in custody until entering the drug program March 1.
I wonder what happened between her leaving the drug treatment facility and yesterday afternoon. Poor thing is now literally a train wreck. I feel bad for her family.
UPDATE 5/23--Here is the follow up to the story. I'm surprised that they are now thinking it was an accident. It really makes you wonder if rehab places should force people to quit smoking cigarettes at the same time as other drugs. They kicked her out for smoking a freaking cigarette?!
Train accident ends life of troubled woman
By Robert J. McCarthy
NEWS STAFF REPORTER
Updated: May 22, 2010, 10:42 pm / 18 comments
Published: May 22, 2010, 4:31 pm
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Sandra M. Abrams' life of drug abuse and petty crime ended just as sadly Friday afternoon on railroad tracks along Niagara Street after she was struck by an Amtrak train bound for Toronto.
Police today identified Abrams as the same woman they arrested last November for stealing purses and credit cards from worshippers at several Buffalo churches.
Abrams was 37 and had addresses on North Street and the Cattaraugus Indian Reservation.
Buffalo Police spokesman Michael J. DeGeorge said that police still do not know how she was hit by the passenger train but added that they consider her death accidental.
And in a bizarre twist, the same train that killed Abrams near Niagara and Albany streets about 4 p.m. was later involved in another fatal accident in Toronto. CTV in Toronto reported that a 30-year-old man was struck about 12:40 a.m. Saturday, as the train was backing into a cleaning facility shortly after dropping off passengers at Union Station in downtown Toronto.
Toronto Police Sgt. Tim Burrows told CTV the unidentified man may have been wearing headphones at the time.
Abrams' attorney, Andrew C. LoTempio, said her problems stemmed from a lifetime of drug addiction.
"She started in her mid-teens," he said Saturday. "Her mother struggled for years trying to help her. But she just started getting into petty crimes to support her drug habit."
After she was arrested Nov. 24 for a series of purse thefts Nov. 15 in the Buffalo churches, she was charged with three counts of grand larceny and one count of petit larceny and jailed. On Feb. 1, she pleaded guilty to felony grand larceny for stealing the purses with credit cards and cash.
State Supreme Court Justice Christopher J. Burns had granted LoTempio's request for treatment instead of jail during a March court appearance.
But LoTempio said Saturday that Abrams lasted only about two weeks at Madonna House in Lockport before she was kicked out for smoking ... a violation of the rules. Her whereabouts were unknown until she was hit by the train Friday, though her attorney suspects she had spent time on the Cattaraugus Reservation.
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Not sure about how the new york state law is with no smoking in rehab places. There used to be 2 schools of thought.
1. You only gave up the addictions You have, that is tough enough
2. The Problem as I understand it is what that does is doesn't stop addiction it just transfers it to something else like maybe smoking. So the other Theory is that instead of just getting over the addiction to that one thing you need to get rid of all addictions.
I Don't have a degree in this and am no expert so I might be saying this wrong.
I just updated this entry with the latest from Buffalo News. Strangely, this train went on to kill someone else in Toronto later on in the day.
Tough To Know Really. Maybe what ever she did to get money got her killed (could have whored it up for money then black mailed someone, could have stolen something and got caught, maybe she OD on the tracks). I wonder if they figure it out if they will let (the media). Let anyone know.
I was a little angry when I wrote this. Actually, I was really angry, and I still am, but it feels better than the depression I have been suffering from about this. I even contemplated getting anti-depressants but then I just realized that I should be feeling this way. It is like the wife who just lost her husband and the doctor writes a prescription for prozac or whatever it is they are prescribing now. Sometimes we should feel sad but this has probably been the longest I have felt this way. Even when I'm appearing to be having fun or it appears that I am happy I'm usually just sad inside. Anyways, it is nice to have the anger instead of the sadness.
Well Said x3
I concur both with your post and the (e:mrmike) assessment of it.
Well said