I'm not sure if you've already seen this, but I just got an email today from M.A.C. with this inside.
Hello Kity Koture
Thought you might be interested.
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03/04/2009 09:45 #47942
for e:hodown02/26/2009 19:34 #47900
ALL OF ESTRIP, PLEASE READcome on guys! no one has anything to say about the last post other than (e:paul), (e:metalpeter) and i??? no discussion, no suggestions, no input? or is it that no one really wants to comment, hoping it will stay under the radar and just goes away?
let me begin this rant with an admission than other than myself, i have no clue how much anyone in particular has or hasn't contributed to the site, lately or ever. i do, however, know that donations other than for the server drive, are pretty dismal and certainly do not begin to cover the costs associated with running estrip each month.
(paul, maybe you can make the amount of donations received, past and current, public. i know you publicly kept track of the server donations, but maybe keeping the donor anonymous but just the amount received public, would be a better idea?)
seriously.....does no one other than me feels some kind of moral obligation to support this website and its maintenance, not to mention its creator and his time, when they visit it daily? no one else feels that we need to come up with ways to advertise (other than free sidewalk chalking) in order to increase our dwindling (IMO) membership? no one feels like they should contribute money to help with operating costs and raise funds to help us get bigger and to fund things that will encourage us to grow as a community (online and locally)?
so many of us come to this site daily to vent our problems, to connect with our friends, to laugh or to discuss issues and so many of us go to those kick ass, free parties hosted by the same three people who pay for hosting this website and for most of the liquor and beer and often some food and the same people who spend the whole day preparing for and a whole day cleaning up after our parties, just so that we can have a central place to drink, dance and socialize?
with the way the donations have been going thus far and the lack of response on the journal below is it fair to assume that none of you are willing to donate a couple of dollars a month to estrip? $1? $2, $3, $5?
how much do you spend on coffee in a month? what about energy or soft drinks or wine or beer and cover charges at bars? how about cigarettes, porn and iTunes or lipgloss , candles and makeup, highlights, hair color, tanning and nails? not to mention victorias secret, lotion, perfume, boots, flats, stilletos and sneakers? as well as bicycles, golf clubs, roller blades, skiiing, camping equipment, grills, weights, rims, and car washes? how about magazines, newspapers, books on paper, on cd, mp3 and ebooks, or netflix, blockbuster, digital or premium cable? kobe beef, lobster, organic everything, free range everything, fair wage tea, antibiotic-free whipped cream, chocolate syrup, dairy queen, friendly's and coldstone, take out, delivery and restaurants galore, recreational drugs, pot, tivo, HDTV's, surround sound systems, cellphones, desktops, laptops, ipods, iphones and imacs and macbooks, printers, scanners, fax machines, digital cameras, digital picture frames, and bluray players. not forgetting the gym, book, association and gaming memberships, as well as airline tickets, hotels, car rentals, theme park admissions, souveniers, go cart racing, paint ball, hockey, football and baseball games, concerts, theater plays, movies, dresses, earrings, hair extensions, waxing, massages, psychic readings, and the enormous shit load of other luxuries that we spend money on without a second thought of hesitation, which we justify by claiming we deserve the feeling of a bit of escape and distraction, that those items, places and services provide for our over worked, run down psyche? we tell ourselves that they deliver the means by which to treat yourself to a little time-out or provide an escape or some amusement.
Those are luxuries for which most of us are willing to sacrifice varying mounts of money, in order to reap the benefits discussed above. We value these luxuries for the benefit they provide, no?
So I guess what we need to ask our selves why do we use estrip for? what does it do for us? don't you value estrip for the same kinds of reasons as you do your little everyday luxuries? escapism from real life? a place to meet up with friends? isn't estrip a little bit of luxury that allows you to meet up with your friends, to de-stress after or during a shitty work day? doesn't it provide a similar feeling that the items for which you spend your disposable money money on? in fact, isn't it safe to say that many of you spend much more time here than anywhere else (bar, movies, hair salon, mall, etc) in order to get your mind off of things, have fun and relax?
if so, then why wouldn't you be willing to donate just a bit of your money to help keep the website running and to actually give us some funds to advertise so that we can make our community much bigger and better, with more members to read about and have outings with and party with?
i seriously am not willing to accept ANYONE who regularly uses the website claiming that they simply cannot afford to donate to the site on a regular basis. TWO DOLLARS! ONE DOLLAR! how much of a dent in your budget can that seriously make? for those of us with decent jobs, there should be no excuse why donating $5 or $7 or shit...$10! dollars a month should not be feasible.
How many tickets have you gotten in the last few months that you threw away into the city of buffalo garbage can? hell, i've got two in the last few weeks. can't we give that back to ourselves so that we have extra cash to organize special outings or pay for supplies for bbq's or parties. how great would it be to place an ad in artvoice so that we can get some new traffic in here and attract some interesting men and women, who in turn might donate and raise our funds for other kind of advertising, and so forth and so forth. imagine one day seeing a local commercial on tv (think cheesy time warner commercials) with estrip.org splattered all over your HDTV! We could place ads in theater playbills, on other websites, buffalo news, beast, radio, sheesh....the list is endless.
sure (e:paul) is rich because he has three incomes, but i don't think it's fair that he has to pay, completely on his own, $100 a month to keep us running. and i'm sorry (e:paul), but asking 10 of us to donate $10 a month to pay for it, is unfair as well. all of us should pay as much as we can afford, but no one should go without contributing anything. shit, even if it's 25 cents, it's still something and it means that regardless of how poor you are, you are making a small sacrifice to contribute to a service which you utilize regularly and not leaving the cost for others to cover.
i know that (e:paul) is probably not going to agree with my ideas here and say that we should not force those who do not want to contribute to do so and that people should not be made to feel guilty or shameful either. i'm sure i'll hear a lecture that this website was designed to bring people together and that was his only goal, so people should feel free to use it without restrictions or pressures, but hell, i don't care.
I would like to think that most of you would agree that estrip is more than just another blogging website. Does it not have a real sense of community, friendship and comradery that other blogging websites, local or otherwise, just cannot offer. is it just me that sees us as more than just a simple blogging website to bitch and moan on and more like a communal family site where you meet new friends, form true friendships, and find support that is real and tangible which can help you find an apartment or help you move or give a ride to the airport.
i know that people here are not stingy and i know that many contributed (and some, quite a lot) when we needed a new server, but once that was over, very few people remembered that donate button was there. i guess my point is that we should donate regularly, monthly, bi-monthly, quarterly) so that we can 1. offset the $100 monthly cost of running the site, and 2. raise funds for our desperately needed advertisements and 3.collect some $$ to supplement parties and 4. raise money for special events i.e. shakespare in the park (food, wine, cheese), field trips, activities, camping, whatever.
i think that numbers 3 and 4 are a long way off, but if we work on 2 and our numbers increase, we'll be able to make those a reality.
i don't want to guilt you guys into this. i just want to make you realize that this website is a pretty big part of your life and that there is a person behind this website who donated a ton of his own money and thousands of hours of time to create this thing that brings you the escape or the connection so many of us seek out throughout the day/week/month. i want people to accept and feel some sense of personal responsibility in for this website's (help on the grammar here, websites' or website's?) existence and growth. and take on the responsibility of personally making sure that we not only continue to stay around but to ensure we grow and develop into a even bigger and stronger community who not only gets together for parties but who possibly one day, will plan toronto weekend outings on a bus rented with our donated discretionary funds.
from what i uderstand, (e:paul) has now made it possible to donate monthly from your paypal account whatever amount you feel comfortable from $1-$10 a month. i strongly urge all of you to please consider making estrip a priority. whether you've been here a few months or many years, whether you know barely know (e:paul), (e:terry) or (e:matthew) or you're all best friends, everyone who uses this site and values it and enjoys it, should feel compelled to donate something to help it survive and make it grow.
let me begin this rant with an admission than other than myself, i have no clue how much anyone in particular has or hasn't contributed to the site, lately or ever. i do, however, know that donations other than for the server drive, are pretty dismal and certainly do not begin to cover the costs associated with running estrip each month.
(paul, maybe you can make the amount of donations received, past and current, public. i know you publicly kept track of the server donations, but maybe keeping the donor anonymous but just the amount received public, would be a better idea?)
seriously.....does no one other than me feels some kind of moral obligation to support this website and its maintenance, not to mention its creator and his time, when they visit it daily? no one else feels that we need to come up with ways to advertise (other than free sidewalk chalking) in order to increase our dwindling (IMO) membership? no one feels like they should contribute money to help with operating costs and raise funds to help us get bigger and to fund things that will encourage us to grow as a community (online and locally)?
so many of us come to this site daily to vent our problems, to connect with our friends, to laugh or to discuss issues and so many of us go to those kick ass, free parties hosted by the same three people who pay for hosting this website and for most of the liquor and beer and often some food and the same people who spend the whole day preparing for and a whole day cleaning up after our parties, just so that we can have a central place to drink, dance and socialize?
with the way the donations have been going thus far and the lack of response on the journal below is it fair to assume that none of you are willing to donate a couple of dollars a month to estrip? $1? $2, $3, $5?
how much do you spend on coffee in a month? what about energy or soft drinks or wine or beer and cover charges at bars? how about cigarettes, porn and iTunes or lipgloss , candles and makeup, highlights, hair color, tanning and nails? not to mention victorias secret, lotion, perfume, boots, flats, stilletos and sneakers? as well as bicycles, golf clubs, roller blades, skiiing, camping equipment, grills, weights, rims, and car washes? how about magazines, newspapers, books on paper, on cd, mp3 and ebooks, or netflix, blockbuster, digital or premium cable? kobe beef, lobster, organic everything, free range everything, fair wage tea, antibiotic-free whipped cream, chocolate syrup, dairy queen, friendly's and coldstone, take out, delivery and restaurants galore, recreational drugs, pot, tivo, HDTV's, surround sound systems, cellphones, desktops, laptops, ipods, iphones and imacs and macbooks, printers, scanners, fax machines, digital cameras, digital picture frames, and bluray players. not forgetting the gym, book, association and gaming memberships, as well as airline tickets, hotels, car rentals, theme park admissions, souveniers, go cart racing, paint ball, hockey, football and baseball games, concerts, theater plays, movies, dresses, earrings, hair extensions, waxing, massages, psychic readings, and the enormous shit load of other luxuries that we spend money on without a second thought of hesitation, which we justify by claiming we deserve the feeling of a bit of escape and distraction, that those items, places and services provide for our over worked, run down psyche? we tell ourselves that they deliver the means by which to treat yourself to a little time-out or provide an escape or some amusement.
Those are luxuries for which most of us are willing to sacrifice varying mounts of money, in order to reap the benefits discussed above. We value these luxuries for the benefit they provide, no?
So I guess what we need to ask our selves why do we use estrip for? what does it do for us? don't you value estrip for the same kinds of reasons as you do your little everyday luxuries? escapism from real life? a place to meet up with friends? isn't estrip a little bit of luxury that allows you to meet up with your friends, to de-stress after or during a shitty work day? doesn't it provide a similar feeling that the items for which you spend your disposable money money on? in fact, isn't it safe to say that many of you spend much more time here than anywhere else (bar, movies, hair salon, mall, etc) in order to get your mind off of things, have fun and relax?
if so, then why wouldn't you be willing to donate just a bit of your money to help keep the website running and to actually give us some funds to advertise so that we can make our community much bigger and better, with more members to read about and have outings with and party with?
i seriously am not willing to accept ANYONE who regularly uses the website claiming that they simply cannot afford to donate to the site on a regular basis. TWO DOLLARS! ONE DOLLAR! how much of a dent in your budget can that seriously make? for those of us with decent jobs, there should be no excuse why donating $5 or $7 or shit...$10! dollars a month should not be feasible.
How many tickets have you gotten in the last few months that you threw away into the city of buffalo garbage can? hell, i've got two in the last few weeks. can't we give that back to ourselves so that we have extra cash to organize special outings or pay for supplies for bbq's or parties. how great would it be to place an ad in artvoice so that we can get some new traffic in here and attract some interesting men and women, who in turn might donate and raise our funds for other kind of advertising, and so forth and so forth. imagine one day seeing a local commercial on tv (think cheesy time warner commercials) with estrip.org splattered all over your HDTV! We could place ads in theater playbills, on other websites, buffalo news, beast, radio, sheesh....the list is endless.
sure (e:paul) is rich because he has three incomes, but i don't think it's fair that he has to pay, completely on his own, $100 a month to keep us running. and i'm sorry (e:paul), but asking 10 of us to donate $10 a month to pay for it, is unfair as well. all of us should pay as much as we can afford, but no one should go without contributing anything. shit, even if it's 25 cents, it's still something and it means that regardless of how poor you are, you are making a small sacrifice to contribute to a service which you utilize regularly and not leaving the cost for others to cover.
i know that (e:paul) is probably not going to agree with my ideas here and say that we should not force those who do not want to contribute to do so and that people should not be made to feel guilty or shameful either. i'm sure i'll hear a lecture that this website was designed to bring people together and that was his only goal, so people should feel free to use it without restrictions or pressures, but hell, i don't care.
I would like to think that most of you would agree that estrip is more than just another blogging website. Does it not have a real sense of community, friendship and comradery that other blogging websites, local or otherwise, just cannot offer. is it just me that sees us as more than just a simple blogging website to bitch and moan on and more like a communal family site where you meet new friends, form true friendships, and find support that is real and tangible which can help you find an apartment or help you move or give a ride to the airport.
i know that people here are not stingy and i know that many contributed (and some, quite a lot) when we needed a new server, but once that was over, very few people remembered that donate button was there. i guess my point is that we should donate regularly, monthly, bi-monthly, quarterly) so that we can 1. offset the $100 monthly cost of running the site, and 2. raise funds for our desperately needed advertisements and 3.collect some $$ to supplement parties and 4. raise money for special events i.e. shakespare in the park (food, wine, cheese), field trips, activities, camping, whatever.
i think that numbers 3 and 4 are a long way off, but if we work on 2 and our numbers increase, we'll be able to make those a reality.
i don't want to guilt you guys into this. i just want to make you realize that this website is a pretty big part of your life and that there is a person behind this website who donated a ton of his own money and thousands of hours of time to create this thing that brings you the escape or the connection so many of us seek out throughout the day/week/month. i want people to accept and feel some sense of personal responsibility in for this website's (help on the grammar here, websites' or website's?) existence and growth. and take on the responsibility of personally making sure that we not only continue to stay around but to ensure we grow and develop into a even bigger and stronger community who not only gets together for parties but who possibly one day, will plan toronto weekend outings on a bus rented with our donated discretionary funds.
from what i uderstand, (e:paul) has now made it possible to donate monthly from your paypal account whatever amount you feel comfortable from $1-$10 a month. i strongly urge all of you to please consider making estrip a priority. whether you've been here a few months or many years, whether you know barely know (e:paul), (e:terry) or (e:matthew) or you're all best friends, everyone who uses this site and values it and enjoys it, should feel compelled to donate something to help it survive and make it grow.
libertad - 03/01/09 16:34
I have seen the good in donating and have been thinking of doing so for some time before your journal. I will not use the monthly withdrawal feature if I donate for the same reasons that (e:metalpeter) has discussed. I say IF I donate because I think that is my decision to make ultimately and I don't really want other people to know if or how much I contributed. Paul can do with whatever he wants to do with the money. As far as parties go, I usually try to bring something to contribute. If paul is interested in using the money for advertising we could all try and think of ideas if needed. If we are doing an estrip outing I think we all can pay our own ways.
I have seen the good in donating and have been thinking of doing so for some time before your journal. I will not use the monthly withdrawal feature if I donate for the same reasons that (e:metalpeter) has discussed. I say IF I donate because I think that is my decision to make ultimately and I don't really want other people to know if or how much I contributed. Paul can do with whatever he wants to do with the money. As far as parties go, I usually try to bring something to contribute. If paul is interested in using the money for advertising we could all try and think of ideas if needed. If we are doing an estrip outing I think we all can pay our own ways.
metalpeter - 02/27/09 19:55
(e:Imk2) first of all, You make a lot of good points. 2nd of all I have had a good time going to see some movies with you as an (e:strip) outing. 3rd you seem like a pretty cool chick to me. 4th I love when you pose for the pictures that look dirty at parties you are hot and that helps). That being said one thing you have to remember is that for some of us (e:strip) is an internet community but for others it is one of multiple blog cites or social networking sites. I will admit I forget to donate money all the time. I think there is another reason why a lot of people don't donate money. To most people with the exception of maybe some Kinky Sex site or maybe not kinky all of the internet is free. What I mean is most people don't join sites that cost money. So because of this they don't think they should pay to be part of a website or paying isn't worth it to them. I'm not taking side here so don't read it as if I am. In terms of people posting a comment, that is weird sometimes. I have written things like about how MTV has a lot of gay shows on them and no ones leaves a comment then I post something that has no political thoughts at all and get like 4 comments, so that I don't get. In any event thanks for posting this and hope you have a great weekend.
(e:Imk2) first of all, You make a lot of good points. 2nd of all I have had a good time going to see some movies with you as an (e:strip) outing. 3rd you seem like a pretty cool chick to me. 4th I love when you pose for the pictures that look dirty at parties you are hot and that helps). That being said one thing you have to remember is that for some of us (e:strip) is an internet community but for others it is one of multiple blog cites or social networking sites. I will admit I forget to donate money all the time. I think there is another reason why a lot of people don't donate money. To most people with the exception of maybe some Kinky Sex site or maybe not kinky all of the internet is free. What I mean is most people don't join sites that cost money. So because of this they don't think they should pay to be part of a website or paying isn't worth it to them. I'm not taking side here so don't read it as if I am. In terms of people posting a comment, that is weird sometimes. I have written things like about how MTV has a lot of gay shows on them and no ones leaves a comment then I post something that has no political thoughts at all and get like 4 comments, so that I don't get. In any event thanks for posting this and hope you have a great weekend.
theecarey - 02/27/09 12:50
missed the prior post.
essentially the message is, (e:paul) does a lot of work for the site, we like it, so we should contribute in some way when we can, and those that want to.
agreed.
automatic deduction is good for those comfortable with it and are likely to forget about the donation button.
For those that respond best to a specific purpose and deadline, then perhaps that could be worked in somehow? ie; server bills, site promotion activities/expenses etc. List the activity desired, and the amount it will take to do it. Basically, donating isn't always at the forefront of the mind, and since this worked well before, maybe it will again.
Reminders are good.
I know I need them.
missed the prior post.
essentially the message is, (e:paul) does a lot of work for the site, we like it, so we should contribute in some way when we can, and those that want to.
agreed.
automatic deduction is good for those comfortable with it and are likely to forget about the donation button.
For those that respond best to a specific purpose and deadline, then perhaps that could be worked in somehow? ie; server bills, site promotion activities/expenses etc. List the activity desired, and the amount it will take to do it. Basically, donating isn't always at the forefront of the mind, and since this worked well before, maybe it will again.
Reminders are good.
I know I need them.
mrmike - 02/27/09 10:47
Imk, you're not putting anybody on the spot at all. I didn't take it that way. I didn't see the posts initially. What you wrote was a healthy reminder that this is a community and we all participate. With just a little more effort we can "pay it forward", make it stronger, help maintain the obviously important connections it has made.
Glad you said something.
Imk, you're not putting anybody on the spot at all. I didn't take it that way. I didn't see the posts initially. What you wrote was a healthy reminder that this is a community and we all participate. With just a little more effort we can "pay it forward", make it stronger, help maintain the obviously important connections it has made.
Glad you said something.
mrmike - 02/27/09 10:37
I hope to be flush enough at some point to donate some "indiscretionary funds."
I hope to be flush enough at some point to donate some "indiscretionary funds."
hodown - 02/27/09 10:28
My donation is my friendship to Paul.
My donation is my friendship to Paul.
imk2 - 02/27/09 10:17
okay, okay guys, i just want to clarify that you don't have to explain why you have or haven't donated money. i don't want to put people on the spot like that. and when saying that i couldn't believe that people didn't comment on the last post, it was not regarding whether you all contributed or not, but rather that there were no comments or discussions about donating in general, no discussion regarding the pros and cons of having a monthly payment system, and no comments or discussion regarding saving up money for advertising, events, etc.
that's what i'm trying to say with this post, (well that and for you to sign up to donate, either monthly or every so often). i'm not asking people to discuss why the haven't donated. i certainly don't want to make it THAT personal.
i just was hoping that making this website grow would be as important to others as it is for me and that people would want to discuss ways of raising money and discuss the importance (or not) of taking personal responsibility for estrip's well being.
okay, okay guys, i just want to clarify that you don't have to explain why you have or haven't donated money. i don't want to put people on the spot like that. and when saying that i couldn't believe that people didn't comment on the last post, it was not regarding whether you all contributed or not, but rather that there were no comments or discussions about donating in general, no discussion regarding the pros and cons of having a monthly payment system, and no comments or discussion regarding saving up money for advertising, events, etc.
that's what i'm trying to say with this post, (well that and for you to sign up to donate, either monthly or every so often). i'm not asking people to discuss why the haven't donated. i certainly don't want to make it THAT personal.
i just was hoping that making this website grow would be as important to others as it is for me and that people would want to discuss ways of raising money and discuss the importance (or not) of taking personal responsibility for estrip's well being.
vincent - 02/27/09 09:55
I'm glad give a donation, but I'm more of a lump sum kind of guy where I'll give $50 to $100 at one time for a year. An example of this is when there was the new server fund raiser.
As for me I've just been working like a bee doing OT everyday at work.
I'm glad give a donation, but I'm more of a lump sum kind of guy where I'll give $50 to $100 at one time for a year. An example of this is when there was the new server fund raiser.
As for me I've just been working like a bee doing OT everyday at work.
jim - 02/27/09 09:50
Just very busy lately and I missed your original post.
I did sign up for $10/month the second I saw the donation button a few days ago, so I'm doing my part :)
Just very busy lately and I missed your original post.
I did sign up for $10/month the second I saw the donation button a few days ago, so I'm doing my part :)
mrmike - 02/27/09 06:32
i did, just in the first post
i did, just in the first post
paul - 02/26/09 23:03
Wow, as you guessed I really don't care if people donate or not. I budgeted the $1200/year and for me its a worthwhile price to have a non-commercial place to put all my thoughts. In the end to me estrip is a place to house my journal and I am glad other people can tag along and I don't want to pressure anyone to contribute.
On the other hand, I seriously cannot believe that no one even responded to this yet. I guess you posted it late in the day.
Wow, as you guessed I really don't care if people donate or not. I budgeted the $1200/year and for me its a worthwhile price to have a non-commercial place to put all my thoughts. In the end to me estrip is a place to house my journal and I am glad other people can tag along and I don't want to pressure anyone to contribute.
On the other hand, I seriously cannot believe that no one even responded to this yet. I guess you posted it late in the day.
02/20/2009 19:53 #47838
estrip suggestionsCategory: estrip
i'm not sure if i've made this suggestion to you before...or actually, i did, but it was a long time ago so you probably forgot. i was hoping for a link on a users' journal that links to comments that that they made recently or longer. Possibly the last 50 or 100?? but ideally to all comments made, chronologically since the time they joined.
i remember you did say that that was a possibility, but i don't know how feasible it is at this point.
let me know if this is something you're willing to consider.
btw, i reserve the right to make suggestions or requests as i still try to contribute periodically (or at least when i can remember)
i know that that would be something i would personally be willing to sign up for. i don't know about anyone else, but having a few dollars a month automatically donated to the site would be much easier to do than having to come up (remember the server drive?) with a larger amount of cash when things come up.
i also think you'd get a lot more donations as people would probably be willing to donate the price of a starbucks coffee each month if it was something they had done automatically, without any hassle or work and without having to think about it each and ever month. the process seems to be much more logical and more conducive to giving. we all know that two bucks is nothing. but having to remember or having someone ride you each month to donate the dollars (no not that kind of ride, (e:metalpeter)) would be annoying and cumbersome. i am willing to bet that a lot of us here would be willing to set up an automatic payment to the (e:strip) account for a couple of $$ a month without feeling like we were getting robbed. it would allow us to save some money for emergencies, special events or for advertising campaigns.
AND
since we really need to think about advertising and attracting new users, this would be a good step in that direction. maybe (e:paul), you'd want to make this into a journal or i can post it as one of mine and get a discussion going on this topic to see where everyone else stands?
anyone else reading this...any thought?
ok...i'm going to click on the "donate" button now.
i remember you did say that that was a possibility, but i don't know how feasible it is at this point.
let me know if this is something you're willing to consider.
btw, i reserve the right to make suggestions or requests as i still try to contribute periodically (or at least when i can remember)
- remember when i asked you if you could look into having a payment plan for donations that users could sign up for and have a set amount of $$ collected from their pay pal accts, or debit cards, or checking accts?
i know that that would be something i would personally be willing to sign up for. i don't know about anyone else, but having a few dollars a month automatically donated to the site would be much easier to do than having to come up (remember the server drive?) with a larger amount of cash when things come up.
i also think you'd get a lot more donations as people would probably be willing to donate the price of a starbucks coffee each month if it was something they had done automatically, without any hassle or work and without having to think about it each and ever month. the process seems to be much more logical and more conducive to giving. we all know that two bucks is nothing. but having to remember or having someone ride you each month to donate the dollars (no not that kind of ride, (e:metalpeter)) would be annoying and cumbersome. i am willing to bet that a lot of us here would be willing to set up an automatic payment to the (e:strip) account for a couple of $$ a month without feeling like we were getting robbed. it would allow us to save some money for emergencies, special events or for advertising campaigns.
AND
since we really need to think about advertising and attracting new users, this would be a good step in that direction. maybe (e:paul), you'd want to make this into a journal or i can post it as one of mine and get a discussion going on this topic to see where everyone else stands?
anyone else reading this...any thought?
ok...i'm going to click on the "donate" button now.
paul - 03/03/09 17:38
Private journals are definately against estrip's goals. I totally am not being mean about it, but it is everything that estrip is not. There are plenty of other sites that have private blogs if that is what you want.
Imk2, the comment history thing is comming soon.
Private journals are definately against estrip's goals. I totally am not being mean about it, but it is everything that estrip is not. There are plenty of other sites that have private blogs if that is what you want.
Imk2, the comment history thing is comming soon.
jenks - 03/03/09 17:29
i'm all for a monthly sponsorship.
And as far as suggestions- One I've been thinking of lately is the OPTION to make your journal viewable ONLY to peeps who are logged in. Maybe that goes against the 'mission' of estrip... but the more i put out here, the more paranoid I get about random family/friends/dates etc finding my journal, and I find myself censoring.
i'm all for a monthly sponsorship.
And as far as suggestions- One I've been thinking of lately is the OPTION to make your journal viewable ONLY to peeps who are logged in. Maybe that goes against the 'mission' of estrip... but the more i put out here, the more paranoid I get about random family/friends/dates etc finding my journal, and I find myself censoring.
mrmike - 02/26/09 21:56
I'm just reading these now and you make good points. I readily admit to just forgetting to kick in, which (despite sharing Peter's fear of auto deduction)I've since corrected.
Thanks for speaking up.
I'm just reading these now and you make good points. I readily admit to just forgetting to kick in, which (despite sharing Peter's fear of auto deduction)I've since corrected.
Thanks for speaking up.
paul - 02/22/09 22:47
Okay now you can click the sponor button and choose any rate per month that you want and can afford. I just had to figure out their API to make it work.
Okay now you can click the sponor button and choose any rate per month that you want and can afford. I just had to figure out their API to make it work.
metalpeter - 02/21/09 09:42
First of all I love that you mentioned me that way in your post that was awesome it really was. I like that you know how I think.
Second of all those are both really good ideas. I my self wouldn't do the deduction thing, but I think a lot of people would. My reason is that I don't ever do automatic deductions on any of my Bills or anything on line. The reason is that if you forget about it, it can mess up your account. But I think for other people it is a really good idea.
One thing I would like to add to the comment thing is another stat. It would be nice to be able to see how many words are in a comment and how many words each person has. Not sure if you would want to count those words into the total word count or maybe just keep them separate.
First of all I love that you mentioned me that way in your post that was awesome it really was. I like that you know how I think.
Second of all those are both really good ideas. I my self wouldn't do the deduction thing, but I think a lot of people would. My reason is that I don't ever do automatic deductions on any of my Bills or anything on line. The reason is that if you forget about it, it can mess up your account. But I think for other people it is a really good idea.
One thing I would like to add to the comment thing is another stat. It would be nice to be able to see how many words are in a comment and how many words each person has. Not sure if you would want to count those words into the total word count or maybe just keep them separate.
tinypliny - 02/21/09 07:56
I am with the lower denomination idea.
I am with the lower denomination idea.
imk2 - 02/21/09 02:57
come on guys!
no one has anything to say about this???
that's it, i'm making a post out of this comment i was about to make.
come on guys!
no one has anything to say about this???
that's it, i'm making a post out of this comment i was about to make.
imk2 - 02/20/09 20:04
well, i cannot afford 10 a month, but 5 def i could do. but i think other people need other options of just a few dollars a months, 2, 3, 5, etc. but lets think about more than just covering the server costs, let think about setting up a nest egg.
well, i cannot afford 10 a month, but 5 def i could do. but i think other people need other options of just a few dollars a months, 2, 3, 5, etc. but lets think about more than just covering the server costs, let think about setting up a nest egg.
paul - 02/20/09 19:56
Thanks (e:imk2) for the ideas.
(e:jim) also suggested the sonporship donation thing. I added a new sponsor link at the top right. It allows you to sign up for a $10/month sponsorship. If 10 people do it, it would cover the cost of the server as I pay $100/month. Not tht I am complaining, to me it is worth $100/month to have a commerical free space on the web.
The comment thing will definately be in the new verison coming up. By default it shows the last three comments posts on your blog and the last three you wrote for other people. Then you can click for more.
Thanks (e:imk2) for the ideas.
(e:jim) also suggested the sonporship donation thing. I added a new sponsor link at the top right. It allows you to sign up for a $10/month sponsorship. If 10 people do it, it would cover the cost of the server as I pay $100/month. Not tht I am complaining, to me it is worth $100/month to have a commerical free space on the web.
The comment thing will definately be in the new verison coming up. By default it shows the last three comments posts on your blog and the last three you wrote for other people. Then you can click for more.
02/20/2009 00:15 #47820
Poor Rihhanna - Beating photoSo just about everyone has heard about Chris Brown's alleged beating of Rhihanna last week. Finally, a photo has surfaced of what she looked like shortly after the assault. As sad as this photo is, it is probably not entirely indicative of her injuries, as the REAL bruising and swelling doesn't kick in until at least a day or two have passed.
For those of you who are not aware of Rihanna, she is a pretty big pop "sensation" that has blown up in the last few years. I actually am a pretty big fan, mostly because she has the balls to sport a short hair cut and has kick-ass fashion sense. She IS the reason the bob has come back into style as she was the first one to sport it, followed shortly by Katie Holmes.
So here is a pic of her on a good day.
She is also one of the few black artists to kind of embrace the whole emo/quasi-goth fashion style. As lame as emo is...it is popular among white, middle class, teenage america. I think her popularity is largely due to her ability to identify with that sector of the population which she's done more through fashion, than her music.
Observe her video for her super big hit, "Disturbia". Not only does she look fun-fucking-tastic, but she definitely is calling out to the Columbine-esque, Marilyn Manson, tween idols ...that are just hitting puberty and gaining access to mom and dads medicine cabinets and bank accounts before heading off to Hot Topic and a catching a screening of SAW X.
Regardless, this is a kick ass video. Look at the costumes, make-up and film cinematography and editing. It makes me want to have Halloween parties every night. It is really, really well done.
And so here is the just released pic I snatched from perezhilton.com. It is supposedly taken right after her fight with Chris Brown. Perez also states that attempted murder charges are also being considered against Brown.
Again, I don't think this shows how bad she really looked. I've had some injuries (and one horrible one) where initially things looked relatively fine, and only in the next day or two that followed, was the extent of the injuries actually revealed.
Dude needs to start seeking repentance and treatment ASAP if he wants to keep himself out of jail and maintain a career.
For those of you who are not aware of Rihanna, she is a pretty big pop "sensation" that has blown up in the last few years. I actually am a pretty big fan, mostly because she has the balls to sport a short hair cut and has kick-ass fashion sense. She IS the reason the bob has come back into style as she was the first one to sport it, followed shortly by Katie Holmes.
So here is a pic of her on a good day.
She is also one of the few black artists to kind of embrace the whole emo/quasi-goth fashion style. As lame as emo is...it is popular among white, middle class, teenage america. I think her popularity is largely due to her ability to identify with that sector of the population which she's done more through fashion, than her music.
Observe her video for her super big hit, "Disturbia". Not only does she look fun-fucking-tastic, but she definitely is calling out to the Columbine-esque, Marilyn Manson, tween idols ...that are just hitting puberty and gaining access to mom and dads medicine cabinets and bank accounts before heading off to Hot Topic and a catching a screening of SAW X.
Regardless, this is a kick ass video. Look at the costumes, make-up and film cinematography and editing. It makes me want to have Halloween parties every night. It is really, really well done.
And so here is the just released pic I snatched from perezhilton.com. It is supposedly taken right after her fight with Chris Brown. Perez also states that attempted murder charges are also being considered against Brown.
Again, I don't think this shows how bad she really looked. I've had some injuries (and one horrible one) where initially things looked relatively fine, and only in the next day or two that followed, was the extent of the injuries actually revealed.
Dude needs to start seeking repentance and treatment ASAP if he wants to keep himself out of jail and maintain a career.
jenks - 03/03/09 17:26
ok, retarded question that I should be embarrassed to ask... who is chris brown? besides the guy that beat up rihanna? is he a singer? i'm too lazy to google...
ok, retarded question that I should be embarrassed to ask... who is chris brown? besides the guy that beat up rihanna? is he a singer? i'm too lazy to google...
tinypliny - 02/20/09 18:47
Eh? Why did you think that?
She is so pretty though! :)
I just realized that I have actually heard this Brown character's songs before! Not that I want to compare Whitney Houston and Rihanna (because really, no one could ever come close to Houston's awesome voice) but wasn't she terrorized by another Mr. Brown as well?
At the risk of sounding like an old hag (which I am, anyway), all this is a sign of how relationships are built among teenage kids nowadays. When there is no respect on both sides, domestic violence will continue to rise and go totally under the radar. I am sure these pop stars are adored by tons of teenagers around the world. What an irresponsible example these so-called idols are setting...
Eh? Why did you think that?
She is so pretty though! :)
I just realized that I have actually heard this Brown character's songs before! Not that I want to compare Whitney Houston and Rihanna (because really, no one could ever come close to Houston's awesome voice) but wasn't she terrorized by another Mr. Brown as well?
At the risk of sounding like an old hag (which I am, anyway), all this is a sign of how relationships are built among teenage kids nowadays. When there is no respect on both sides, domestic violence will continue to rise and go totally under the radar. I am sure these pop stars are adored by tons of teenagers around the world. What an irresponsible example these so-called idols are setting...
libertad - 02/20/09 18:33
When I first saw this post I thought it belonged to (e:tinypliny)! Rihhanna is so awesome.
When I first saw this post I thought it belonged to (e:tinypliny)! Rihhanna is so awesome.
metalpeter - 02/20/09 18:28
First of all, all kinds of producers will work with him. You see it doesn't matter that he beats her, it is all about dollars and album sales and money. In both music and many other industries it isn't about if the person is good or not it is about if they make money. Chris brown makes money and he has talent in that kind of music so people will work with him. It isn't like he beat her up in a club they are together so it is a domestic dispute and many people still think it is between them and isn't there business and that is a valid point. This is going to sound mean and I don't mean it that way. But I think if Allayah was still alive she would still be making hits and not to many people would have heard of this girl. I'm not saying she wouldn't be a star but she would be no where near as big as she is now.
First of all, all kinds of producers will work with him. You see it doesn't matter that he beats her, it is all about dollars and album sales and money. In both music and many other industries it isn't about if the person is good or not it is about if they make money. Chris brown makes money and he has talent in that kind of music so people will work with him. It isn't like he beat her up in a club they are together so it is a domestic dispute and many people still think it is between them and isn't there business and that is a valid point. This is going to sound mean and I don't mean it that way. But I think if Allayah was still alive she would still be making hits and not to many people would have heard of this girl. I'm not saying she wouldn't be a star but she would be no where near as big as she is now.
mrdeadlier - 02/20/09 08:56
His goose is cooked. Even if he were to get off scott free (and I don't think he will), no producer is going to work with him now.
His goose is cooked. Even if he were to get off scott free (and I don't think he will), no producer is going to work with him now.
02/05/2009 22:54 #47652
It has started alreadyI'm like a bad episode of Sinefeld. What is wrong with me?
jenks - 02/06/09 23:20
got your message(s)- let's chat when I get back.
got your message(s)- let's chat when I get back.
tinypliny - 02/06/09 08:59
Oh and for the record, I don't think anything is wrong with you. Probably, all those people deserve it.
Oh and for the record, I don't think anything is wrong with you. Probably, all those people deserve it.
tinypliny - 02/06/09 07:35
Imk2: I am taking your mom out on a date whenever she wants to go. (Read: when she wants to drive me. hehe) You are welcome to join this super-awesome date! :)
Imk2: I am taking your mom out on a date whenever she wants to go. (Read: when she wants to drive me. hehe) You are welcome to join this super-awesome date! :)
Well I love the Pants and the boots but the top doesn't match it I guess she will have to take off the top then. Oh did I mention how I love those tight pants and the boots, I feel like I should be drooling all over the place.
Here's something that you probably never thought would come from me - did you guys see what Katy Perry wore at a recent awards show? :::link:::
Hello Kitty??? Damn it.
I was really hoping for a cleave competition...
I think thats what we all really need to warm us up from this cold, cold winter.
Let me see if I can find the email. I just remember not being impressed and annoyed at the delay in the response.
all of the stuff is sold out.
ohh...really?? what did she say?
How cute is that?! There's a MAC store near my office and I've been walking by just to get a fix of Hello KItty.
Also- unrelated- I did contact the B&B on Elmwood. The woman took two weeks to write back and I didn't like the tone of her email. We decided to stay at Salvatores Garden Place hotel instead. It was kinda awesome..