"Sleep. The death of each day, but a doorway to the map of humanity." - unknown
I'm helping my program director/professor/internship supervisor write a new textbook. It's about the function of Catholic colleges and universities. As we were discussing some things today during our meeting we checked in on the Cardinal Newman Society. If you're not familiar, it's a set of like minded individuals in the Cahtolic faith. You may also refer to them as the watch dogs of Catholocism in education, very conservative. Anyhoo, I came across this piece and thought, wow. That's something. Particularly look at numbers 5,7, and 8. I am in NO WAY saying all Catholics believe this for surely there are many that take a different approach. I'm just curious of other's opinions. If you have any. Ciao.
Just to add a Little bit. If memory serves when I went to Canisius (seems so long ago like another life time) I think I do remember seeing a GLBT organisation room on campus someware it might have been past the bookstore and before the shop that was never open in the area where they had clubs and organisations. I think it is good that they allow it.
"There is no valid scientific evidence for a biological origin of same-sex attraction. However, there is evidence that persons with same-sex attraction can and do change." That statement is acutally incorrect as you pointed out. Firstly there is such a thing as gay animals. There are services and programs where some churchs try to get gays to turn stright but they don't really work they just might cause the person to stop having sex but they are still gay. I heard someone Priest explain that being gay isn't a sin. What is a sin is giving into temptation and having gay sex.
I belive that most forms of chistainty belive homosexualty is a sin or evil. Not that everyone belives that. My belief is that you can't condem anyone for sining. It seems everyone seems to forget about that "Let thee who is without sin cast the first stone" story. I think most people codem people and don't except them. There are some people who do both. Meaning they think their friend or family member is going to hell but they still acept them as a person who they love anyways.
For the record, Canisius does support a large GLBT community. What I was really aiming at here was the interpretation of Vatican belief versus other's understanding of Catholic teaching. To be accepting of others versus condemning them.
I also found this line contradictory. "There is no valid scientific evidence for a biological origin of same-sex attraction. However, there is evidence that persons with same-sex attraction can and do change."
Sure, say, if Canisius College gets tax dollars, then I'm on board with you Ajay. Otherwise, they can approve/deny whatever kind of club they like, and it's their right.
Sure, eveyone has a right to their opinions.
But not everyone has a right to my tax dollars.
If there are people who believe in discrimination, they should not get any tax funding. Unfortunately, churches do get a LOT of tax benefits; that is a problem.
That page makes for entertaining reading, in light of the entire sexual abuse scandal. Latest deal: paying out $75M:
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I know guys, the First Amendment is really brutal, yeah?
I'm not a fan of the Catholic church in general but they can run their colleges pretty much however they see fit. I think a gay person would have to be extremely stupid to assume that a Catholic school would respect their sexuality, or even be obligated to do so.
Is it fair? Of course it isn't, but that's really not the point. Sure they're out of touch, and they have the right to be. There are out of touch assholes everywhere. If someone doesn't like the rules at a Catholic school they can always transfer.
This document shows how out of touch they really are. The first example of that is that a signifagant percentage of people who go to Catholic Colleges arn't Catholic or at least arn't practicing. A local example if you want to be a nurse you go to D'yvoule if you want to be an accountant You go to Canisius if you are good at Basketball you get a schoolership at St. Bonaventure. Secondly College is a time when people are supposed to learn about them selves (hence all the girls gone wild videos and girls kissing girls who arn't really bi or gay but just experiment) College isn't supposed to be prison. Yes the point is that you go there to learn or get a degree. But that isn't the only thing it is about. The other problem is that they say that nothing can contradict the bible. Well if that is true by evolution if you start there then what else will they not let teachers teach. Besides the church has no right to preach at people when they have passed gay pedohpilic priest from parish to parish. I'm not saying that Catholic Schools should give up there catholic education. I think it should be there for anyone who wants it. But that dosn't mean you have to force people to what you belive is moraly correct. A little bit of encouragement through signs and on campus advertising is good and through school organisations. But to say that every minority on campus can have there own group but not the gay kids is just wrong. Debate is a verry good thing on College campuses, if no one ever learns how to debate this country is in a lot of toruble.
My opinion- ugh.
I personally am not a big fan of (overly) religious education. I think the point of education is to learn about various viewpoints- not just to have one narrow one shoved down your throat, and all others condemned.