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11/21/2006 17:39 #24699
No Swedes, No TurkeyNo Swedes, No Turkey
Nov 20 4:59 PM US/EASTERN
By Joshua Larson
BSP Cultural and Political Editor
After 27 consecutive years of Thanksgiving Day dining amongst friends and family at the Larson family retreat in Jamestown, Jason and Joshua Larson are finding themselves out in the cold.
"I believe that this is an ill-conceived concept," said Joshua Larson after learning of the barren wasteland that will be his Thanksgiving Day plate. "I can't see how Dad is going to deal with Grandma during a 3-hour drive to the home of my uncle and leave us here in Buffalo because Jason has a rigid work commitment."
Jason Larson was too distraught to make a comment.
For years the Larson home has been a bountiful harvest of the flavors, colors, sights and smells of what is arguably one of the best holidays on the American calendar. One Buffalo resident and confidant of the Larsons, Mr. Gerald L. Vinciguerra Jr., is equally traumatized by what seems to be a lack of holiday flair at his own home.
"The Larsons might be getting their turkey on Saturday rather than Thursday, but at least it will be home made; I'll be sliding my turkey off of a buffet table at the Holiday Inn," remarked Vinciguerra.
Clearly disgruntled, Mr. Vinciguerra recalled the wistful, halcyon days of bountiful dessert tables, beautiful table settings and bursting belt buckles. "Apparently the 'old days' started 364 days after last Thanksgiving," Vinciguerra cooly remarked.
Hardly chefs, the Larson brothers will be forced to fend for themselves on Thanksgiving Day for the first time in their lives. Larson stated, "I have an idea of what to do here. I'm thinking about getting a pumpkin pie, some cornbread, some vegetables, some coffee, a marinated pork tenderloin and a shoulder to cry on."
11/21/2006 14:10 #24698
ImmaturityI've pretty much avoided all of this so-called "drama" as a result of "the other Jason" aka "the new Jason" aka (e:jasoninbuffalo). While I have a streak of saying outrageous things, the last thing I've ever personally tried to do is actually stifle what is being said on another journal. As I've always said, if you don't like what I'm saying, I couldn't possibly care less and you are more than welcome to move along. I highly recommend that you, dear people, follow the same train of thought because your life will be far less stressful.
Some of you tried running off DT because you didn't necessarily like what he had to say. This represents the WORST of what this particular site can be. While I didn't start this blog site, I feel fairly comfortable in saying that this wasn't set up so that you can start your own little e-clique and vote people off the island that you do not like. That would make (e:strip) unsustainable in the long term and a completely hostile place to have a blog in the short term.
Leave (e:jasoninbuffalo) alone. If you don't like his blog it is well within your right to let him know it, but remember a few things - 1) Chances are high that you value your opinion more than he values your opinion; 2) You, by acting like an immature little prat, make yourself look far worse than the supposed "offender" writing the blog; 3) The entire problem can be avoided by simply taking the high road. Now, if you are utterly incapable of taking the high road, I would remind you that although you have a right to say what you like here, you do NOT have the right to try to limit what somebody has to say here, or otherwise attempt to run people off simply because you don't like them. The only person that truly has a claim to ownership here, (e:paul), has never done it. He's a sensible guy. Since he won't do it, you, as a participant, SURE AS HELL do not have a right to do it. Ok? Ok.
Some of you tried running off DT because you didn't necessarily like what he had to say. This represents the WORST of what this particular site can be. While I didn't start this blog site, I feel fairly comfortable in saying that this wasn't set up so that you can start your own little e-clique and vote people off the island that you do not like. That would make (e:strip) unsustainable in the long term and a completely hostile place to have a blog in the short term.
Leave (e:jasoninbuffalo) alone. If you don't like his blog it is well within your right to let him know it, but remember a few things - 1) Chances are high that you value your opinion more than he values your opinion; 2) You, by acting like an immature little prat, make yourself look far worse than the supposed "offender" writing the blog; 3) The entire problem can be avoided by simply taking the high road. Now, if you are utterly incapable of taking the high road, I would remind you that although you have a right to say what you like here, you do NOT have the right to try to limit what somebody has to say here, or otherwise attempt to run people off simply because you don't like them. The only person that truly has a claim to ownership here, (e:paul), has never done it. He's a sensible guy. Since he won't do it, you, as a participant, SURE AS HELL do not have a right to do it. Ok? Ok.
joshua - 11/21/06 17:38
imk I think your position was clarified - but the point is that, in my opinion anyway, the people that are criticizing him are wasting their energy and time.
In other words, why bother?
(e:jasoninbuffalo) - welcome to the site! Haha.
imk I think your position was clarified - but the point is that, in my opinion anyway, the people that are criticizing him are wasting their energy and time.
In other words, why bother?
(e:jasoninbuffalo) - welcome to the site! Haha.
imk2 - 11/21/06 15:35
(e:jasonisbuffalo) i never said to take you act elsewhere. i said that if you keep swearing at people and keep being nasty they will eventually ignore you, just like they with (e:mrdt) . no one ran him off, they just ignored him and eventually he stopped posting. i asked if you came here from a different blog. i asked if you came here because you weren't getting the response you wanted elsewhere, but i didn't tell you to leave. (e:paul) keeps a running tab of all of the chat so i'm sure we can confirm that at some point. i love the way things get convoluted. it's good ole politics, isn't it? my response regarding turning your comments off was directed at (e:joshua) not you. again, don't get it twisted, i'm not upset at the fact that you're responding to your comments. i'm not upset at all. i was talking with you yesterday about the WAY you responded in your comments. i didn't say anything about the content of your posts. we spoke about the way you addressed a member of this site, remember?
(e:jasonisbuffalo) i never said to take you act elsewhere. i said that if you keep swearing at people and keep being nasty they will eventually ignore you, just like they with (e:mrdt) . no one ran him off, they just ignored him and eventually he stopped posting. i asked if you came here from a different blog. i asked if you came here because you weren't getting the response you wanted elsewhere, but i didn't tell you to leave. (e:paul) keeps a running tab of all of the chat so i'm sure we can confirm that at some point. i love the way things get convoluted. it's good ole politics, isn't it? my response regarding turning your comments off was directed at (e:joshua) not you. again, don't get it twisted, i'm not upset at the fact that you're responding to your comments. i'm not upset at all. i was talking with you yesterday about the WAY you responded in your comments. i didn't say anything about the content of your posts. we spoke about the way you addressed a member of this site, remember?
jasoninbuffalo - 11/21/06 14:30
imk2, i beg to differ. Yesterday during chat you told me to take my act elsewhere. As I told you yesterday. I welcome comments on my blog, but expect to get comments in my blog back. I hope you are having a great day.
imk2, i beg to differ. Yesterday during chat you told me to take my act elsewhere. As I told you yesterday. I welcome comments on my blog, but expect to get comments in my blog back. I hope you are having a great day.
imk2 - 11/21/06 14:27
how could i possibly limit what he has to say? all i'm doing is stating my opinion as well. i have no power to run anyone off. if he does not want comments on his blog, he is welcome to turn them off.
how could i possibly limit what he has to say? all i'm doing is stating my opinion as well. i have no power to run anyone off. if he does not want comments on his blog, he is welcome to turn them off.
11/17/2006 12:57 #24697
Things I strongly dislikeI nearly got run over by some white middle aged lady in an Audi stationwagon today while crossing Elmwood to go buy some dish soap - apparently being a white middle aged lady that drives an Audi makes you exempt from right of way rules.
Then the funniest and most stereotypical thing happened. I notice as I cross the street that she is going to Wilson Farms as well - nice! So I walk to the door, passing a black homeless guy who is standing by the door talking to himself. I look back through the door, and I notice that after the white lady in the Audi notices that she parked directly in front of the black homeless guy, she puts the car in reverse and drives away!
This, my dear friends, is a perfect example of what we don't want in our neighborhood, and as far as I'm concerned, is emblematic of ANY interest from suburbanite types in our neighborhood. Sure, our neighborhood is affluent and kitschy - many white middle aged ladies come to our neighborhood and deal with the eccentricities without batting an eyelash. I submit as evidence the white middle aged affluent ladies that stream in and out of Globe Market. I am sure that these ladies are Buffalo residents because anybody from Clarence simply could not deal with "colored folks" around their neighborhood, particularly people who are destitute.
What I saw today I found to be shocking but not terribly surprising. Buffalo is *the* most segregated city I've visited, and there isn't a major city in the United States that I haven't spent significant time in. We are segregated racially, economically and socially to such an extent that the white people from Clarence unwittingly expose their ignorance and intolerance of people who are either poorer or a different color - they simply cannot help it because they are so underexposed and used to their ideal and extremely sheltered environment in some cul de sac.
Memo to suburbanites - if you can't deal with it, then don't come down. If you are looking for an urban, sophisticated shopping mall then I suggest heading to Transit and pretending that you are in Buffalo and not Williamsville/Clarence. I hear that Sienna has a FABULOUS holiday menu, and hey - your kids at Willy South aren't going to have to come face to face with BLACK PEOPLE - and if they do, at least you know that in your district they aren't poor and you can chat with their parents (maybe, remember - they are black) about interior decorating ideas!
Oh yeah, and you people are FAKE ASS Sabres fans, too. We'll see you in three to five years when the team is average again..... right?
Then the funniest and most stereotypical thing happened. I notice as I cross the street that she is going to Wilson Farms as well - nice! So I walk to the door, passing a black homeless guy who is standing by the door talking to himself. I look back through the door, and I notice that after the white lady in the Audi notices that she parked directly in front of the black homeless guy, she puts the car in reverse and drives away!
This, my dear friends, is a perfect example of what we don't want in our neighborhood, and as far as I'm concerned, is emblematic of ANY interest from suburbanite types in our neighborhood. Sure, our neighborhood is affluent and kitschy - many white middle aged ladies come to our neighborhood and deal with the eccentricities without batting an eyelash. I submit as evidence the white middle aged affluent ladies that stream in and out of Globe Market. I am sure that these ladies are Buffalo residents because anybody from Clarence simply could not deal with "colored folks" around their neighborhood, particularly people who are destitute.
What I saw today I found to be shocking but not terribly surprising. Buffalo is *the* most segregated city I've visited, and there isn't a major city in the United States that I haven't spent significant time in. We are segregated racially, economically and socially to such an extent that the white people from Clarence unwittingly expose their ignorance and intolerance of people who are either poorer or a different color - they simply cannot help it because they are so underexposed and used to their ideal and extremely sheltered environment in some cul de sac.
Memo to suburbanites - if you can't deal with it, then don't come down. If you are looking for an urban, sophisticated shopping mall then I suggest heading to Transit and pretending that you are in Buffalo and not Williamsville/Clarence. I hear that Sienna has a FABULOUS holiday menu, and hey - your kids at Willy South aren't going to have to come face to face with BLACK PEOPLE - and if they do, at least you know that in your district they aren't poor and you can chat with their parents (maybe, remember - they are black) about interior decorating ideas!
Oh yeah, and you people are FAKE ASS Sabres fans, too. We'll see you in three to five years when the team is average again..... right?
metalpeter - 11/18/06 16:12
It is weird how there is that invisible line at main street. But that isn't the only odd part of how racialy devided buffalo is. There is an area of town that is south buffalo or the east side depending on who lives there the white part is called south buffalo but yet the perry projects are the east side. Back when I was in Highschool I knew this kid who lived near train tracks over in south buffalo and he was giving directions for people to come to his house and this black guy (Joe was a great guy and really funny) said oh yeah right past the bridge that when you go under it everyone is white. It was funny but true.
It is weird how there is that invisible line at main street. But that isn't the only odd part of how racialy devided buffalo is. There is an area of town that is south buffalo or the east side depending on who lives there the white part is called south buffalo but yet the perry projects are the east side. Back when I was in Highschool I knew this kid who lived near train tracks over in south buffalo and he was giving directions for people to come to his house and this black guy (Joe was a great guy and really funny) said oh yeah right past the bridge that when you go under it everyone is white. It was funny but true.
uncutsaniflush - 11/17/06 22:02
(e:joshua) I so agree with you about the Main Street dividing line in Buffalo. It really reminded me of the some of neighborhoods in Detroit bordering on the more affluent Grosse Pointe suburbs - mansions on one side, slums on the other.
I think that the only reason that developers aren't developing immediately east of Main Street like they are west of Main Street is racism. Not necessarily the racism of the developers who worship the greenback but that of their customers who wouldn't live east of Main no matter how wonderful the house is.
(e:joshua) I so agree with you about the Main Street dividing line in Buffalo. It really reminded me of the some of neighborhoods in Detroit bordering on the more affluent Grosse Pointe suburbs - mansions on one side, slums on the other.
I think that the only reason that developers aren't developing immediately east of Main Street like they are west of Main Street is racism. Not necessarily the racism of the developers who worship the greenback but that of their customers who wouldn't live east of Main no matter how wonderful the house is.
joshua - 11/17/06 21:38
I think we do UCSF. Detroit is massively segregated and so is Cincy. I look at Buffalo and think, how many places can you visit where literally if you cross Main Street the racial and economic lines are palpable?
I suppose that it would be hard to truly say what cities are most segregated - I only espouse my view.
In Chicago, as you may know, there is a massive Latin American neighborhood that stretches through a large part of the southern and western part of the city. In Chicago, it isn't just white and black, its black vs. the latins! Its very strange.
I think we do UCSF. Detroit is massively segregated and so is Cincy. I look at Buffalo and think, how many places can you visit where literally if you cross Main Street the racial and economic lines are palpable?
I suppose that it would be hard to truly say what cities are most segregated - I only espouse my view.
In Chicago, as you may know, there is a massive Latin American neighborhood that stretches through a large part of the southern and western part of the city. In Chicago, it isn't just white and black, its black vs. the latins! Its very strange.
uncutsaniflush - 11/17/06 21:24
I know that you travel a lot; and I know you are an intelligent guy; but I don't think that Buffalo is the most segregated city I've been in.
Off the top of my head, I think that Detroit; Atlanta; Knoxville, TN; Memphis, TN; Chicago, IL to name a few cities are all more segregated than Buffalo to my eyes.
Of course, in several of the cities I named, there is an African-American power base that is not present in Buffalo (I think that Byron Brown proves this)
So while I don't agree that Buffalo is the most segregated city, I do think that it is a city in which its minorities are amongst the most marginalized in the U.S.
So maybe we agree more or less.
I know that you travel a lot; and I know you are an intelligent guy; but I don't think that Buffalo is the most segregated city I've been in.
Off the top of my head, I think that Detroit; Atlanta; Knoxville, TN; Memphis, TN; Chicago, IL to name a few cities are all more segregated than Buffalo to my eyes.
Of course, in several of the cities I named, there is an African-American power base that is not present in Buffalo (I think that Byron Brown proves this)
So while I don't agree that Buffalo is the most segregated city, I do think that it is a city in which its minorities are amongst the most marginalized in the U.S.
So maybe we agree more or less.
joshua - 11/17/06 21:17
Thank you for your posts, Maureen and Peter.
Maureen - I feel perfectly fine using generalities and speaking flippantly about people that I see *every* *single* *day* perpetrating what I saw today, or variations on what I saw, in a neighborhood that I have lived in for over 6 years. I certainly agree that I'm being unfair, to an extent, about the people I generalized today. I watched this ladies eyes, ok? She didn't just pull in the Wilson Farms lot then randomly change her mind. There is no question as to why it was that she "changed her mind." End of.
If its not yet obvious, I strongly dislike this ilk of human debris. While I'm certain that your mom is a fantastic lady and many suburbanite mothers are fantastic ladies, I was *very* specific about the people I am talking about. Unless your mother is a rich, snooty lady who enjoys driving luxury cars in busy city streets recklessly and being rude to every person she encounters that doesn't smell as rich as she is, I'm not speaking about your mother or people like her. Is living in a suburb a crime? Certainly not. Behaving like you are better than someone else because of your socioeconomic status, what school you go to or where you send your kids to school, or what have you? In my book that IS a crime. Was Frank Zappa wrong to criticize and mock the people he did during his career? Absolutely not. While I'm not Frank Zappa, I'm speaking to a larger social point, like he would, that I believe is an absolute plague for this neighborhood.
Peter - fantastic points. I didn't stereotype the homeless guy - he is well known in the neighborhood. He happens to be one of the guys I say hello to and occasionally give him money as well. I believe that if its the middle of the day and you (hypothetical 'you,' not Peter 'you' to be clear) are afraid to get out of your car in a convenience store parking lot because you are afraid of being swarmed upon by the beggars, you probably don't belong down here.
One of the best conversations I've ever had on a plane was when I was leaving New Orleans for Chicago - a guy about my age who essentially dressed like Lil' Jon was sitting next to me so I asked him about the city, how it was recovering, etc. Extremely engaging individual, articulate and very cool guy. How many people would have judged him?
You are so right about how the media and television portay blacks that it isn't funny. Its absolutely unfair. We don't see many stories about the white kids in the suburbs getting into trouble with drugs, but is there a doubt as to whether such a problem is persistant, even in our area? Hell no! Its interesting and saddening to see how people can point out the problems from one segment of society and ignore what is going on in your own home.
Thank you for your posts, Maureen and Peter.
Maureen - I feel perfectly fine using generalities and speaking flippantly about people that I see *every* *single* *day* perpetrating what I saw today, or variations on what I saw, in a neighborhood that I have lived in for over 6 years. I certainly agree that I'm being unfair, to an extent, about the people I generalized today. I watched this ladies eyes, ok? She didn't just pull in the Wilson Farms lot then randomly change her mind. There is no question as to why it was that she "changed her mind." End of.
If its not yet obvious, I strongly dislike this ilk of human debris. While I'm certain that your mom is a fantastic lady and many suburbanite mothers are fantastic ladies, I was *very* specific about the people I am talking about. Unless your mother is a rich, snooty lady who enjoys driving luxury cars in busy city streets recklessly and being rude to every person she encounters that doesn't smell as rich as she is, I'm not speaking about your mother or people like her. Is living in a suburb a crime? Certainly not. Behaving like you are better than someone else because of your socioeconomic status, what school you go to or where you send your kids to school, or what have you? In my book that IS a crime. Was Frank Zappa wrong to criticize and mock the people he did during his career? Absolutely not. While I'm not Frank Zappa, I'm speaking to a larger social point, like he would, that I believe is an absolute plague for this neighborhood.
Peter - fantastic points. I didn't stereotype the homeless guy - he is well known in the neighborhood. He happens to be one of the guys I say hello to and occasionally give him money as well. I believe that if its the middle of the day and you (hypothetical 'you,' not Peter 'you' to be clear) are afraid to get out of your car in a convenience store parking lot because you are afraid of being swarmed upon by the beggars, you probably don't belong down here.
One of the best conversations I've ever had on a plane was when I was leaving New Orleans for Chicago - a guy about my age who essentially dressed like Lil' Jon was sitting next to me so I asked him about the city, how it was recovering, etc. Extremely engaging individual, articulate and very cool guy. How many people would have judged him?
You are so right about how the media and television portay blacks that it isn't funny. Its absolutely unfair. We don't see many stories about the white kids in the suburbs getting into trouble with drugs, but is there a doubt as to whether such a problem is persistant, even in our area? Hell no! Its interesting and saddening to see how people can point out the problems from one segment of society and ignore what is going on in your own home.
metalpeter - 11/17/06 19:21
I will admit I don't like people who almost run me over either. But that is the only place where we agree on this post. First of all if you knew the black guy was homeless then you allready sterotyped him wich dosn't make you any differant (This assumes that you havn't seen him like sleeping in a doorway or something). If I was in an expensive Audi and pulled into a wilson farms and infront of me was someone who I thought was a panhandler or who might bother me I would back up to. There are some panhandlers who are preaty nasty. I don't blame the women at all.
That being said you are right this city is verry racialy devided. There are a lot of factors having to do with race and money and crime. I have a theory about what I call "New Racism" I think that there is a lot of prejudice based on culture and not skin color.
A good example of this is (not all of it) rap music about drugs, guns, and bitchs. The media also only reports about the ghetto when bad things happen. You only hear about football players who are black when they do bad things . TO is a great example of this. Or you may hear about the guy who's brother was shot, they never talk about the guy who busted his ass to make his team or who came from a good family. The fact is that culturaly blacks and whites sometimes are verry differant. Watching TV you never hear about blacks doing good things. So people natrualy assume that if someone is black they are ghetto. That of course isn't true but when you don't know anyone who is both black and poor you assume that people who are black and poor are no good. Kids dress like the rappers who dress like the drug dealers and so with out knowing someone you see baggy pants and assume they are trouble and most times that isn't the case.
I personaly belive that everyone in this country is biased agganst someone. I also think that it is ok. It is how you treat other people that counts. If you don't think poorly another race or skintone then there is also sexual preferance, religion, country of origin. Beliving in good sterotypes is the same thing. I gues that is the end of my rant.
I will admit I don't like people who almost run me over either. But that is the only place where we agree on this post. First of all if you knew the black guy was homeless then you allready sterotyped him wich dosn't make you any differant (This assumes that you havn't seen him like sleeping in a doorway or something). If I was in an expensive Audi and pulled into a wilson farms and infront of me was someone who I thought was a panhandler or who might bother me I would back up to. There are some panhandlers who are preaty nasty. I don't blame the women at all.
That being said you are right this city is verry racialy devided. There are a lot of factors having to do with race and money and crime. I have a theory about what I call "New Racism" I think that there is a lot of prejudice based on culture and not skin color.
A good example of this is (not all of it) rap music about drugs, guns, and bitchs. The media also only reports about the ghetto when bad things happen. You only hear about football players who are black when they do bad things . TO is a great example of this. Or you may hear about the guy who's brother was shot, they never talk about the guy who busted his ass to make his team or who came from a good family. The fact is that culturaly blacks and whites sometimes are verry differant. Watching TV you never hear about blacks doing good things. So people natrualy assume that if someone is black they are ghetto. That of course isn't true but when you don't know anyone who is both black and poor you assume that people who are black and poor are no good. Kids dress like the rappers who dress like the drug dealers and so with out knowing someone you see baggy pants and assume they are trouble and most times that isn't the case.
I personaly belive that everyone in this country is biased agganst someone. I also think that it is ok. It is how you treat other people that counts. If you don't think poorly another race or skintone then there is also sexual preferance, religion, country of origin. Beliving in good sterotypes is the same thing. I gues that is the end of my rant.
maureen - 11/17/06 16:35
I think you might not want to make snap judgments about people you’ve seen for all of 2 minutes in your life. Aside from being a bad driver, which I can’t argue against since she almost hit you, why do you think you know anything about this woman? You watch her back out of a parking spot and then decide you know what she is thinking. This doesn’t seem any different to me than you accusing her of thinking she knows the homeless man because of his status or appearance. The only difference is that your stereotyping is verified and hers isn’t. My mom is middle-aged, white, and lives in a suburb (although it’s not Clarence and she doesn’t drive an Audi). She and her friends, who also fall into your characterization of this woman, are nothing like what you describe and I think that she’d be really insulted if someone assumed she was racist, ignorant, or intolerant because of an action as perfunctory as changing her mind about going in a store. I share you intolerance for racism and classism. I just don’t think you should through these things around so flippantly. Maybe you should think about who, in this situation, “unwittingly exposed their ignorance and intolerance of people†who are different than them.
- Keep in mind, this will undoubtedly sound bitchier than it is meant, I guess I'm in a bad mood*
I think you might not want to make snap judgments about people you’ve seen for all of 2 minutes in your life. Aside from being a bad driver, which I can’t argue against since she almost hit you, why do you think you know anything about this woman? You watch her back out of a parking spot and then decide you know what she is thinking. This doesn’t seem any different to me than you accusing her of thinking she knows the homeless man because of his status or appearance. The only difference is that your stereotyping is verified and hers isn’t. My mom is middle-aged, white, and lives in a suburb (although it’s not Clarence and she doesn’t drive an Audi). She and her friends, who also fall into your characterization of this woman, are nothing like what you describe and I think that she’d be really insulted if someone assumed she was racist, ignorant, or intolerant because of an action as perfunctory as changing her mind about going in a store. I share you intolerance for racism and classism. I just don’t think you should through these things around so flippantly. Maybe you should think about who, in this situation, “unwittingly exposed their ignorance and intolerance of people†who are different than them.
11/15/2006 14:49 #24696
Nice Web Site11/13/2006 14:02 #24695
Why my dad is cooler than meI think that the thing my father is the proudest of, concerning (e:jason) and I anyway, is the fact that we have a great love of music of all kinds. Most kinds of music, anyway.
Some of my fondest memories are of riding in my dad's white Oldsmobile 2-door listening to The Police, Phil Collins/Genesis (not that fucking 'Invisible Touch' crap), Peter Gabriel with or without Genesis, U2, Pink Floyd, Tori Amos, Yes, Supertramp, Frank Zappa, The Eurythmics, The Grateful Dead, Herbie Hancock, Fleetwood Mac, Miles Davis, The Alan Parsons Project - I've forgotten most of it but you catch the drift. Dad looooved Tori Amos. I think he found her very sexy, and she is - especially when you see her perform. But she was fucking freaky - not Annie Lennox crazy freaky, but just enough that you have to wonder whether or not you would 'take the plunge' if you had the chance. Anyway, I digress.
The best thing my father ever did for (e:jason) and I, and I think he would agree, is plant the music seed in us. He was an all-state caliber trumpet player when he was in high school and so we ended up being similarly killer musicians as well. I even enrolled at Fredonia to major in Music Composition (nobody knows that about me but now you do!) but promptly left to go to UB since it hit me that Music Comp wouldn't be the best career move. My knowledge of the classical repertoire is entirely my own - dad doesn't listen to much classical. I think his proudest moments are when he gives me music, which he does all the time knowing that its going to collect dust for a year, and after that year I come to him on my own and ask for more from particular artists.
Nowadays my father is in full bore hippie mode - tie dye and all. He is NEVER without tie dye. I actually have his rain stick and his didgeridoo. He would cut my throat if I tried to take his drums and other instruments. He is heavily into new age/world music, the newer jazzy stuff like MMW and jam band material. He is a 49 year old man that goes to hippie music festivals. He's seen Pink Floyd and The Grateful Dead, in original format, live. That is a fact that makes an extreme amount of jealousy boil up in me.
He votes Democrat and cannot understand for the life of him why I chose to register as a Republican at 18 - he wrote in big block letters "I'M AN ASSHOLE" over my brother's picture of President Bush.
His co-workers call him "The Big Kahuna," or simply "Kahuna." He can whistle so loud that he could almost puncture an ear drum if you stand too close. He is a single digit handicap golfer. He refers to my grandma by her first name. The raunchiest thing he has ever told me about was the infamous "Three Hole Tammy" story (if you don't catch the drift, it should be fairly obvious!). He gets tears in his eyes when he listens to my solos at the 1995 All-County Jazz Festival. Since I was first, he wisely named me after my grandfather; (e:jason) got the shaft in this regard and he LOVES IT when people ask him what his middle name is. (sarcasm, guys... sarcasm).
Obviously the man has had an enormous influence on me and I love him a great deal. He along with my grandparents laid the foundation for me to be the man that I am, and God willing, the father that I will be one day. The only thing that I wish he would have done is push a guitar into my hands when I was younger; this way, I would be a great player right now! When I have kids, I will encourage them to not only excel and participate in organized musical activity but strike out on their own as well; my world was classical for a long time but I think I would have been a better musician had I joined a band outside of school.
Looking at the evidence, if people had a choice between a 28-year old Josh and a 28-year old Mark, Mark would be cooler and get all the chicks. Luckily there is just enough of him in me that the chicks still like me (occasionally!). Anyway - here is my tribute to my father!
Some of my fondest memories are of riding in my dad's white Oldsmobile 2-door listening to The Police, Phil Collins/Genesis (not that fucking 'Invisible Touch' crap), Peter Gabriel with or without Genesis, U2, Pink Floyd, Tori Amos, Yes, Supertramp, Frank Zappa, The Eurythmics, The Grateful Dead, Herbie Hancock, Fleetwood Mac, Miles Davis, The Alan Parsons Project - I've forgotten most of it but you catch the drift. Dad looooved Tori Amos. I think he found her very sexy, and she is - especially when you see her perform. But she was fucking freaky - not Annie Lennox crazy freaky, but just enough that you have to wonder whether or not you would 'take the plunge' if you had the chance. Anyway, I digress.
The best thing my father ever did for (e:jason) and I, and I think he would agree, is plant the music seed in us. He was an all-state caliber trumpet player when he was in high school and so we ended up being similarly killer musicians as well. I even enrolled at Fredonia to major in Music Composition (nobody knows that about me but now you do!) but promptly left to go to UB since it hit me that Music Comp wouldn't be the best career move. My knowledge of the classical repertoire is entirely my own - dad doesn't listen to much classical. I think his proudest moments are when he gives me music, which he does all the time knowing that its going to collect dust for a year, and after that year I come to him on my own and ask for more from particular artists.
Nowadays my father is in full bore hippie mode - tie dye and all. He is NEVER without tie dye. I actually have his rain stick and his didgeridoo. He would cut my throat if I tried to take his drums and other instruments. He is heavily into new age/world music, the newer jazzy stuff like MMW and jam band material. He is a 49 year old man that goes to hippie music festivals. He's seen Pink Floyd and The Grateful Dead, in original format, live. That is a fact that makes an extreme amount of jealousy boil up in me.
He votes Democrat and cannot understand for the life of him why I chose to register as a Republican at 18 - he wrote in big block letters "I'M AN ASSHOLE" over my brother's picture of President Bush.
His co-workers call him "The Big Kahuna," or simply "Kahuna." He can whistle so loud that he could almost puncture an ear drum if you stand too close. He is a single digit handicap golfer. He refers to my grandma by her first name. The raunchiest thing he has ever told me about was the infamous "Three Hole Tammy" story (if you don't catch the drift, it should be fairly obvious!). He gets tears in his eyes when he listens to my solos at the 1995 All-County Jazz Festival. Since I was first, he wisely named me after my grandfather; (e:jason) got the shaft in this regard and he LOVES IT when people ask him what his middle name is. (sarcasm, guys... sarcasm).
Obviously the man has had an enormous influence on me and I love him a great deal. He along with my grandparents laid the foundation for me to be the man that I am, and God willing, the father that I will be one day. The only thing that I wish he would have done is push a guitar into my hands when I was younger; this way, I would be a great player right now! When I have kids, I will encourage them to not only excel and participate in organized musical activity but strike out on their own as well; my world was classical for a long time but I think I would have been a better musician had I joined a band outside of school.
Looking at the evidence, if people had a choice between a 28-year old Josh and a 28-year old Mark, Mark would be cooler and get all the chicks. Luckily there is just enough of him in me that the chicks still like me (occasionally!). Anyway - here is my tribute to my father!
awesome. loved the report. that would probably be more newsworthy than anything reported on by good old maryalice. i got luck and got an invite down here on the island. well i hope that it turns out alright. happy thanksgiving
It looks as if we will be possibly heading to a friends place for Thanksgiving, but that would require driving to Jamestown to do it. I wonder if it would be best to simply get what we need and make a small but cheerful meal for Jay and I right here at home.
Maybe we should all repair to Fat Bob's thursday
I feel your pain, boys. Wish I'd known you were plan-less too! I'm sure someone will take pity on you and feed you. ;)
Well that is to bad. Maybe you can find someplace that has direct TV and or gets NFL Network and watch both football games. In any Hope you both still enjoy the holiday.