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11/16/2006 13:45 #21971
Elmwood Village Hotel off the table/deadCategory: elmwood
The proposed Elmwood Village Hotel seems to be a DEAD deal and no longer on the table. Get the stry here that I just wrote:
They are for sale :)
They are for sale :)
08/23/2006 13:46 #21970
Channel 4 News and plagerismChannel 4 News recently aired the story about Pano's Restaurant cutting hours on the overnights. They unfortunately do not have the story posted on their site anymore, but WNY Media Network posted the story here: , on their sitre before Channel 4 could delete it from history saying:
Note in the edit history ( ) of the Wikinews article here: that the Wikinews article was published on the 21 of August, one day prior to the Channel 4 story.
Note the quotes about the blizzard of 77:
Also note that an e-mail was sent to Channel 4 alerting them to the story on Wikinews, but the e-mail did NOT mention any piece of the article and had a link to the copyright rules in reprinting or airing material used from Wikinews articles. They failed to cite Wikinews as a source or original author.
Plagerism is illegal.
, on their sitre before Channel 4 could delete it from history saying:From Channel 4's Web site:
A late night dining tradition along Buffalo's Elmwood strip may soon be coming to an end.
News 4 has learned the owner of Pano's Restaurant is considering scaling back his hours.
The restaurant opened on the first day of the Blizzard of '77.
Since then, it has been open 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
There's no word yet on why the owner is considering cutting the restaurant's hours.
Note in the edit history (
) of the Wikinews article here: that the Wikinews article was published on the 21 of August, one day prior to the Channel 4 story.Note the quotes about the blizzard of 77:
Wikinews: Pano's opened in 1977 on the day of the blizzard of '77' and has "remained open for 24 hours since then", only closing for an hour at a time on the weekends to clean up and prepare the restaurant for breakfast, said Georgiadis.
Channel 4 according to WNY Media: The restaurant opened on the first day of the Blizzard of '77. Since then, it has been open 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Also note that an e-mail was sent to Channel 4 alerting them to the story on Wikinews, but the e-mail did NOT mention any piece of the article and had a link to the copyright rules in reprinting or airing material used from Wikinews articles. They failed to cite Wikinews as a source or original author.
Plagerism is illegal.
buffalopundit - 11/17/06 14:34
Plagiarism is how it's spelled, and it's not necessarily illegal. Just unethical. Copyright infringement is illegal, but since Wikinews runs a creative commons license, anyone can use it with attribution. The thing with Channel 4 is that a reporter can use Wikinews as a tip, and then call Giorgiadis himself, get an almost identical quote, and then report it without giving Wikinews any attribution.
Plagiarism is how it's spelled, and it's not necessarily illegal. Just unethical. Copyright infringement is illegal, but since Wikinews runs a creative commons license, anyone can use it with attribution. The thing with Channel 4 is that a reporter can use Wikinews as a tip, and then call Giorgiadis himself, get an almost identical quote, and then report it without giving Wikinews any attribution.
metalpeter - 08/23/06 19:37
Plagerism is taking someone elses Idea and presenting it as your own idea, in wrighting. As long as you don't say it is your own idea it isn't plagerism. Granted the source could be wrong but that isn't plagerism. The other question is was the writen story just a writen verson of what they said on TV. The fact is that almost all the news on the the internet is from some other source. There isn't much investgative stories writen by someone who works for that papper they are mostly from news sources. That is generaly how the modern news media is.
Plagerism is taking someone elses Idea and presenting it as your own idea, in wrighting. As long as you don't say it is your own idea it isn't plagerism. Granted the source could be wrong but that isn't plagerism. The other question is was the writen story just a writen verson of what they said on TV. The fact is that almost all the news on the the internet is from some other source. There isn't much investgative stories writen by someone who works for that papper they are mostly from news sources. That is generaly how the modern news media is.
jenks - 08/23/06 18:34
Not that I condone plagiarism- but it seems to me that Panos being open 24/7 since the blizzard is Common Knowledge- and it is not necessarily plagiarism if two sources report it... especially if the wording isn't even the same...
Not that I condone plagiarism- but it seems to me that Panos being open 24/7 since the blizzard is Common Knowledge- and it is not necessarily plagiarism if two sources report it... especially if the wording isn't even the same...
uncutsaniflush - 08/23/06 17:26
Did you consider the possibility that whoever at Channel 4 responsible for the story was too stupid to know the difference between Wikinews and WNY Media?
I find it curious that the info is attributed to WNY Media by Channel 4.
Plagerists usually don't provide attribution.
Hopefully, someone at Channel 4 will do the right thing to rectify this situation.
Good luck!
Did you consider the possibility that whoever at Channel 4 responsible for the story was too stupid to know the difference between Wikinews and WNY Media?
I find it curious that the info is attributed to WNY Media by Channel 4.
Plagerists usually don't provide attribution.
Hopefully, someone at Channel 4 will do the right thing to rectify this situation.
Good luck!
08/22/2006 13:02 #21969
Elmwood Village Gatekeepers launch siteThe "Elmwood Village Gatekeepers" have launched a new website for their Request for Proposals on the corner of Elmwood and Forest. You can go to the home page here and look on the left of the page to download a printable version of the RFP.
Request For Proposal
Elmwood Village Gateway and
Greenspace
Elmwood Village Gatekeepers
Responses requested by: September 1, 2006
Submissions requested by: October 1, 2006
Objective of this RFP:
The intersection of Elmwood and Forest Avenues is the prominent entrance or "Gateway" to what is possibly Buffalo's most well known, signature neighborhood, The Elmwood Village.
Assets on the southeast corner of Elmwood and Forest include an elevated green space and five turn of the century historic homes. At the northwest corner of Elmwood and Forest is the "Elmwood Forest" a historic green space containing stands of mature pines, other trees and lawn. An all too rare and precious feature in an urban landscape, and part of the historic Olmsted vision for planning the City of Buffalo.
We advocate re-use and renovation of the existing structures and green space presently on these historic sites to create a unique, uplifting and imaginative entranceway to Buffalo's signature Elmwood Village.
We are seeking conceptual schematics which will:
> Preserve, enhance and re-use the existing five historic homes at the southeast corner of Elmwood and Forest.
> Preserve, unify and highlight the unique elevated green space and
lawns at the southeast corner of Elmwood and Forest, and make them accessible as a public "commons."
> Create a unified view of the unique greenspace at the southeast corner of Elmwood and Forest to reflect the "Elmwood Forest" at the northwest corner of Elmwood, and Forest honoring Olmsted's vision of green ways throughout Buffalo.
For information please email: rfp@elmwoodvillage.net
and look on the left of the page to download a printable version of the RFP.Request For Proposal
Elmwood Village Gateway and
Greenspace
Elmwood Village Gatekeepers
Responses requested by: September 1, 2006
Submissions requested by: October 1, 2006
Objective of this RFP:
The intersection of Elmwood and Forest Avenues is the prominent entrance or "Gateway" to what is possibly Buffalo's most well known, signature neighborhood, The Elmwood Village.
Assets on the southeast corner of Elmwood and Forest include an elevated green space and five turn of the century historic homes. At the northwest corner of Elmwood and Forest is the "Elmwood Forest" a historic green space containing stands of mature pines, other trees and lawn. An all too rare and precious feature in an urban landscape, and part of the historic Olmsted vision for planning the City of Buffalo.
We advocate re-use and renovation of the existing structures and green space presently on these historic sites to create a unique, uplifting and imaginative entranceway to Buffalo's signature Elmwood Village.
We are seeking conceptual schematics which will:
> Preserve, enhance and re-use the existing five historic homes at the southeast corner of Elmwood and Forest.
> Preserve, unify and highlight the unique elevated green space and
lawns at the southeast corner of Elmwood and Forest, and make them accessible as a public "commons."
> Create a unified view of the unique greenspace at the southeast corner of Elmwood and Forest to reflect the "Elmwood Forest" at the northwest corner of Elmwood, and Forest honoring Olmsted's vision of green ways throughout Buffalo.
For information please email: rfp@elmwoodvillage.net
metalpeter - 08/22/06 19:28
I admit that you and I disagree on the hotel plans. I myself think it is an anti progress and nimby movement my self. I think in Buffalo there is this anti devolpment movement. But they do bring up a good point. So here is an idea that would be a great compromise. Sell the houses to Westin and in stead of having it be a hotel have the five houses all connect in the back and have them be Bed and Breakfasts. They would be owned by westin and be upscale but keep the homes. by upscale I mean connect the basements and have a pool or other recreation. Then in the rooms have a computer with high speed internet. Bed and breakfests support and encourage community Assuming every one eats at the same time. Not sure exactly how the money would work but the runner of each house would live there and run it and then they and westin would both get a portion of the profit. I don't think that this would ever happen but it would be a way to keep everyone happy. Plus I don't know if there are any Bed and Breakfests in Buffalo. I stayed in one once it was interesting. Oh one other the Gate Keepers is a horrible name it makes them sound high and mighty and that they know what is best for everyone plus it implies religous meaning also.
I admit that you and I disagree on the hotel plans. I myself think it is an anti progress and nimby movement my self. I think in Buffalo there is this anti devolpment movement. But they do bring up a good point. So here is an idea that would be a great compromise. Sell the houses to Westin and in stead of having it be a hotel have the five houses all connect in the back and have them be Bed and Breakfasts. They would be owned by westin and be upscale but keep the homes. by upscale I mean connect the basements and have a pool or other recreation. Then in the rooms have a computer with high speed internet. Bed and breakfests support and encourage community Assuming every one eats at the same time. Not sure exactly how the money would work but the runner of each house would live there and run it and then they and westin would both get a portion of the profit. I don't think that this would ever happen but it would be a way to keep everyone happy. Plus I don't know if there are any Bed and Breakfests in Buffalo. I stayed in one once it was interesting. Oh one other the Gate Keepers is a horrible name it makes them sound high and mighty and that they know what is best for everyone plus it implies religous meaning also.
08/21/2006 12:56 #21968
Panos restaurant ending overnight shiftAfter nearly thirty years, Pano's Restaurant at 1081 Elmwood Avenue in Buffalo, New York will end a tradition of being open 24 hours a day, seven days a week by ending its overnight foodservice.
The tradition for Buffalonians, who are able to enjoy drinks at the bars and clubs until 4:00 a.m. will end sometime at the end of August or September, according to overnight manager Wendi Dittmar and resturant accountant Roseanne Jones.
"We will be starting the closure of the overnight shift sometime in the next 2 weeks to a month," said Dittmar in an exclusive interview with Wikinews.
Jones told Wikinews that owner Pano Georgiadis is "just fed up" with the "destruction, the walk-outs of bills and fights that the 'drunk' people cause" to his resturant.
Pano's opened in 1977 on the day of the blizzard of '77' and has "remained open for 24 hours since then", only closing for an hour at a time on the weekends to clean up and prepare the restaurant for breakfast, said Georgiadis.
Artvoice who holds the "Best of Buffalo" competition every year where readers vote for their favorite Buffalo place, has listed Pano's as the Best of Buffalo for best brunch, best Greek restaurant, best patio and best super-cheap breakfasts for 2006.
Georgiadis is expected to make several radio announcements within the next few weeks.
Copyright: Wikinews, Article:
Posted using Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 liscense
The tradition for Buffalonians, who are able to enjoy drinks at the bars and clubs until 4:00 a.m. will end sometime at the end of August or September, according to overnight manager Wendi Dittmar and resturant accountant Roseanne Jones.
"We will be starting the closure of the overnight shift sometime in the next 2 weeks to a month," said Dittmar in an exclusive interview with Wikinews.
Jones told Wikinews that owner Pano Georgiadis is "just fed up" with the "destruction, the walk-outs of bills and fights that the 'drunk' people cause" to his resturant.
Pano's opened in 1977 on the day of the blizzard of '77' and has "remained open for 24 hours since then", only closing for an hour at a time on the weekends to clean up and prepare the restaurant for breakfast, said Georgiadis.
Artvoice who holds the "Best of Buffalo" competition every year where readers vote for their favorite Buffalo place, has listed Pano's as the Best of Buffalo for best brunch, best Greek restaurant, best patio and best super-cheap breakfasts for 2006.
Georgiadis is expected to make several radio announcements within the next few weeks.
Copyright: Wikinews, Article:
Posted using Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 liscense
libertad - 08/22/06 10:26
I see very little reason to go there now. It seems to me that young people are the reason his restaurant is successful today. If he wants to alienate them from his restaurant, that is his option.
I see very little reason to go there now. It seems to me that young people are the reason his restaurant is successful today. If he wants to alienate them from his restaurant, that is his option.
joshua - 08/21/06 22:10
Mike you need to go there for a mimosa during a sunny afternoon - you will love it!
Actually I'm happy for Pano. He is right about not wanting to/having to tolerate the late night bullshit. Its just a shame that the hooligans forced Pano's hand.
Mike you need to go there for a mimosa during a sunny afternoon - you will love it!
Actually I'm happy for Pano. He is right about not wanting to/having to tolerate the late night bullshit. Its just a shame that the hooligans forced Pano's hand.
mike - 08/21/06 21:45
Panos used to be soo cool, years ago...then i started to hate it when it started to fancify and try to knock down old houses...now it is closing at night..i've lost any last vestiges of love
Panos used to be soo cool, years ago...then i started to hate it when it started to fancify and try to knock down old houses...now it is closing at night..i've lost any last vestiges of love
jason - 08/21/06 13:27
Perhaps someone will take the opportunity to open another all night joint.
Perhaps someone will take the opportunity to open another all night joint.
07/16/2006 12:17 #21967
Oppose to supportersCategory: elmwood
WNYmedia.net hase gotton nasty about the opposers of the hotel. Now we are going to get nast back.
OPPOSE the Elmwood Village Hotel proposal
When: Monday July 17, 2006
Time: 5:00pm
Where: Elmwood and Forest
Hope to see you there.
OPPOSE the Elmwood Village Hotel proposal
When: Monday July 17, 2006
Time: 5:00pm
Where: Elmwood and Forest
Hope to see you there.
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