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09/04/2011 13:09 #55088

Italian Raisin Bread
Category: chemicals
Italian Raisin Bread baked in a brick oven. Distributed by Mastroianni Brothers Bakery Incorporated (518) 355-5310
51 Opus Blvd, Schenectady, NY 12306
  • Potassium Bromate.



Good grief. I am merrily eating this while it has been banned in Sri Lanka and China and has escaped a ban here because of a bureaucratic regulation loophole.

In the United States, it has not been banned. The FDA sanctioned the use of bromate before the Delaney clause of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act—which bans potentially carcinogenic substances— went into effect in 1958, so it is more difficult for it to now be banned. Instead, since 1991 the FDA has urged bakers to voluntarily stop using it. In California a warning label is required when bromated flour is used.



I am on the last slice. It's delicious but I am placing a personal kitchen ban effective from the next minute. And I just wrote to the store to consider discontinuing this bread.
paul - 09/04/11 13:56
Yuck. However, just because its regulated in China doesn't mean anyone follows that. I mean I am sure lead is regulated in children's toys and melamine is not a legitamate protein filler - enough said.

I wonder if you would find that in any local bread. I think as soon as you need to transport bread large distances chemicals are required. Best thing would be self baked of local bakery.

Maybe we should drop out of our respective careers and start a chemical free food store.

09/04/2011 11:34 #55085

The product label project.
Category: chemicals
I have wanted to do this for the longest time. It's completely boring to anyone except me but I want to maintain a running list of every single chemical I apply on my skin or eat that I don't know about. It's fascinating how much chemicals dominate our lives.

I pretend that I am avoiding a ton of it by religiously reading labels to everything I consider buying. But I do end up getting stuff to eat or cosmetics that have unknown compounds in them. I don't know what the roles of these chemicals are or what they are capable of messing up in my body. I place my blind trust in the fact that they can't be excessively harmful because *someone out there* is definitely regulating them.

Fact is, there is very little regulation. Products that proudly proclaim that they are not been tested on animals actually scare me. I get all the arguments of PETA and animal rights activists and their gory pictures of animal suffering are shocking. But let's face it. At some point, we need to draw the line at just how much we want to compromise safety and health for humans in favour of "humane treatment of animals". Scientific research has primarily reached its current status because we could use animals to test our experiments.

We cannot emulate the living system otherwise. We cannot foresee the consequences of chemicals on living systems if we have never tested them on any. You cannot persuade me that reactions that you have seen on cell cultures come close to what happens in real life. My cynicism stems from first hand experience of the limitations of non-living systems for experimentation. It seems so paradoxical to me that we have such complicated and expensive clinical trials for drugs consumed by a minority sick population and yet NO regulation or trials for products that a vast majority of the general population uses and consumes daily and all the time. Prevention is definitely nowhere in the agenda here.

Another alternative is of course to use just edible and known natural substances in everything. While this is a logical and perfect alternative to the dilemmas of animal testing, it is also sometimes not very practical in today's world where products are global rather than local in their distribution and audience.

Anyway, I just ate some hummus:
It had "less than 0.5% of":
  • Sorbic Acid
  • Sodium Benzoate
  • Phosphoric Acid

Preservatives. But why can't salt and olive oil suffice? Maybe I need to just make my own Hummus from (e:libertad)'s awesome (secret?) recipe.
tinypliny - 09/05/11 11:52
I agree with you, but forcing any subset of population, be it prisoners or grad students to take part in drug testing borders on what Nazis did back in the day. Cruelty to any living being is wrong be it animals or humans but is there any other alternative? This is where people come up with "there is always cell culture, there is always cadaver skin" etc. These are NOT living systems. We are not capable of creating life in the laboratory yet. There has to be compromise somewhere. Call me selfish or call me "species-cist", but being a human, I vote in favour of NOT subjecting humans to cruelty.
metalpeter - 09/05/11 11:30
don't get me wrong I'm not a crazy PETA member but do think that cruelty is wrong... That being said you can kill an animal and eat it in a non cruel way.... I know that it is unethical to grab prisoners (bet they do it in china though) and force testing on them... but if they are guilty and really guilty not this eh I didn't do anything that happens sometimes... Why not offer them time off for time in medical testing you know the dangerous stuff that you would want to try on an animal that doesn't have all the same biology as humans.......
tinypliny - 09/05/11 10:08
Yes! They do pay people to take part in trials. :) In fact, believe it or not, some people are career "trialists". Many grad student make small money out of taking part in studies. You are right in saying that all living systems are not equivalent. However, some testing is better than no testing at all. When products proclaim that there has been no animal testing, it inspires ZERO confidence in my and I immediately place it back. I'd rather see things like dermatologist-approved or some such comment OR chemicals/ingredient lists that I know about.
tinypliny - 09/05/11 10:04
Yes, I prefer that there are no substitutions. If it is non-fat (apart from some really simple things like milk), manufacturers do add in other things to compensate. Not all non-fat/low-fat/low-sugar/low-salt stuff has substituted chemicals though. I literally read all the labels before making a decision to buy. Grocery shopping is often an intense speed-reading trip for me. But things like the potassium bromate does slip through, which is why I am posting here. I want to be more familiar with what I am consuming.

Yes, containers do leach out into food. I try not to heat plastics in the microwave. Glass/ceramic/stainless steel (for stovetop/baking) are my materials of choice. Plastics are all over the place however, it's hard to assess their complete effects because of difficulties in measurement.
metalpeter - 09/05/11 10:01
  1. 3 Animal Testing... (maybe part of this is a just saw on Friday Rise of the Planet of the apes oh gawd a lot of it was so sad it really was...Or maybe something is just wrong with me...Good movie though) Never makes any sense to me and here is why.....

I have this idea or theory on this drug and here is what it is supposed to do and have this effect so lets see what it does in an animal.... Now I get that there are things that can be deadly you don't know about or things you can perfect... But here is where the problem lies for me.... The Biology is different so if something works or doesn't it then would have to be altered cause a chimp or rabbit or rat or Lemur or what ever isn't a human.... So as bad as this sounds just go right to human testing... Yes I get that side effects and that kind of thing only happen to some people because we all don't have the exact same make up... But also shouldn't medicine or cosmetics be tested on sick people as well.... How will they be effected?

Now some would say that isn't ethical but why not as a starting point offer people who are sick in some form full payment of any medical bills from illness past and future as payment for being the animal....
metalpeter - 09/05/11 09:53
  1. 2.... Don't think there is a way for you to study this in your home life but what about containers.... Yes once something in a can is opened or even when not opening it putting it in a fridge is bad... But even with out that wonder how much stuff from cans, bottles, and bags works its way into the food... I'm guessing glass is the safest... but this could be true of re heating things as well (more along the lines of microwaves ) can't that container become part of the food and the food part of that container...
metalpeter - 09/05/11 09:49
Comment One of I think about 3.... Avoiding Chemicals is a good idea but not sure how possible it is... As an example there is this claim of things being Healthy... Like fat free or low fat or low Sodium or sugar free.. Well though if you take that stuff out you need something else in its place... Every chemical Sugar in some form (high heat like is setting in the bed of a truck or being stored in a garage hot enough not sure)... But some things when you take fat out to keep the same feel and taste something else has to be added and most times I'm guessing it is chemicals.....
paul - 09/04/11 13:59
I thought I remembered reading it only occurred at warm temperatures such that refrigerated soda was not as much an issue as warm pop. Personally I am equally as paranoid about the plastic bottles. Whatever bleaches put of that crap is not even on the label.
tinypliny - 09/04/11 13:29
I meant ascorbic acid, not citric acid - both of which are naturally found in fruits and are not a health risk per se.
tinypliny - 09/04/11 13:28
Hmm.. the benzene is formed via reaction with citric acid. I wonder what sorbic acid and phosphoric acid are reacting to form with sodium benzoate. Disturbing.
tinypliny - 09/04/11 12:48
Nice. Now I feel I like I should dump the rest of the hummus in the garbage. Actually, I don't quite like the artichoke in it. Tastes iffy unlike the awesome (e:libertad)'s version.
paul - 09/04/11 12:15
This is a great idea. I really, really try to avoid things with chemicals other than the medicines I take. I realize you can't control everything but I can't tell you home many things I don't eat because of Sodium Benzoate after I read about how it forms benezine :::link:::

09/03/2011 10:52 #55079

rcconf - Debian runlevel Configuration
Category: linux
With a thing called rcconf, I can see these are the things running on startup of my system

│ [*] alsa-utils
│ [*] anacron
│ [*] aumix
│ [*] bluetooth
│ [*] bootlogs
│ [*] console-setup
│ [*] cron
│ [*] dbus
│ [*] fancontrol
│ [*] fuse
│ [*] hal
│ [*] hddtemp
│ [*] hdparm
│ [*] kbd
│ [*] keyboard-setup
│ [*] live-boot
│ [*] live-config
│ [*] lm-sensors
│ [*] module-init-tools
│ [*] network-manager
│ [*] openvpn
│ [*] plymouth
│ [*] pppd-dns
│ [*] procps
│ [*] rsync
│ [*] rsyslog
│ [*] sudo
│ [*] udev
│ [*] x11-common

I guess I can disable the ones in blue.. How about the others? What are these things anyway?!
tinypliny - 09/04/11 12:08
I promise I have stopped thinking about it! In fact I have completely laid off messing with my system after comment #64760. I just got lazy and didn't update this post.
paul - 09/04/11 11:57
I think you have to stop thinking about what is useful to you. I am not saying this is for sure the case with the audio mixer service but there is a good chance something else might expect it and then freak out when its not there. I doubt it really uses any resources when not in use.
tinypliny - 09/04/11 11:48
LOL, you are tougher than I thought. It's done now! :) aumix is in blue because it's not really useful to me. System76 has THE WORST soundcard and I seldom use this comp for anything media related anyway. Sound is rock-bottom to say the list. Who cares about mixer levels in that pit of mediocrity?
paul - 09/04/11 11:38
Why is the blue not coming off cron and anacron?
uncutsaniflush - 09/03/11 12:41
i would disable bluetooth, openvpn (unless you do virtual private networking), and pppd-dns (unless you use dail-up). I'm with (e:paul) you do NOT want to disable anacron and cron. Bad shit could happen.
tinypliny - 09/03/11 12:04
seems like it could be problematic with a live system using that tool: :::link:::
paul - 09/03/11 11:54
use dd and clone the drive to an external one that you can restore from later. Thats a long process that requires lots of storage but it might be faster than always rebuilding. A virtual machine on the other hand it would take like 30 seconds and store just the differences.
tinypliny - 09/03/11 11:40
Hold on! that's a fabulous thought. Is there a way to do a snapshot of this real one?
paul - 09/03/11 11:39
If you were using virtual machines his would be a great place for a snapshot.
tinypliny - 09/03/11 11:33
Valid points. I am stopping the removing right now. :) It definitely does not contribute in any way to my work at all. It's kind of annoying as it is too much information. I am determined to be happier with how things are right now because they are working well for now. The weird selection problem has gone away with this new install and I want to keep it that way.

I don't know yet about the party.. Could you please message me the address? I will see where I am @ 8:00 PM today.
paul - 09/03/11 11:27
Why are you obsessed with removing everything? I believe this is the root of your problem - besides maybe a hardware issue. Is the system too slow? I bet not - why not just leave a default crunchbang install and see how that goes. Stop removing stuff because you are actually making it way harder to figure out what is wrong by introducing way too many variables into the situation.

It sound to me like you are obsessing on this stuff to avoid your real work but then you justify it by saying, this somehow contributes to your real work. Clearly, the benefits are not paying off it you have to keep reinstalling your os.

Live-config appears to be "live-config contains the scripts that configure a Debian Live system during
the boot process (late userspace)."

That doesn't sound like something you would want to remove.anacron/cron is the service that runs scheduled tasks. You can use it in awesome ways and the OS probably uses it for log rotation or other stuff that needs to happen on schedule.

Off topic - are you going to the party tonight?

09/03/2011 10:07 #55076

All packages on my Crunchbang
Category: linux
Since I am estripping my Crunchbang this time, why not just post EVERYTHING on my system thus far... It's quite an interesting list. :) The ones installed on Feb 7 came with the system and the ones in the last 2 days are my doing (along with the ones that got installed with the dist-upgrade command).

Run:

ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list -lh >packagelist.txt



to get this:

Vanilla Crunchbang
  1. abiword-common
  2. abiword-plugin-grammar
  3. abiword-plugin-mathview
  4. abiword
  5. adduser
  6. adobe-flashplugin
  7. alsa-base
  8. alsa-utils
  9. anacron
  10. apt-xapian-index
  11. aptitude
  12. arj
  13. aspell-en
  14. aspell
  15. aumix-common
  16. aumix
  17. b43-fwcutter
  18. base-passwd
  19. bash-completion
  20. bash
  21. bc
  22. binutils
  23. bluez
  24. bsdmainutils
  25. bsdutils
  26. build-essential
  27. busybox
  28. bzip2
  29. cabextract
  30. catfish
  31. console-common
  32. console-data
  33. console-terminus
  34. consolekit
  35. coreutils
  36. cowsay
  37. cpio
  38. cpp-4.4
  39. cpp
  40. cron
  41. crunchbang-bin-scripts
  42. crunchbang-extra-themes
  43. crunchbang-wallpapers
  44. dash
  45. debconf-i18n
  46. debconf
  47. debian-archive-keyring
  48. debianutils
  49. defoma
  50. desktop-file-utils
  51. dictionaries-common
  52. diffutils
  53. dmidecode
  54. dmsetup
  55. dmz-cursor-theme
  56. dnsmasq-base
  57. docbook-xml
  58. dosfstools
  59. dwm-tools
  60. eject
  61. elementary-icon-theme
  62. esound-clients
  63. esound-common
  64. evince-common
  65. evince
  66. exiv2
  67. exo-utils
  68. fakeroot
  69. fancontrol
  70. fbxkb
  71. figlet
  72. file-roller
  73. file
  74. findutils
  75. firmware-b43-installer
  76. firmware-b43legacy-installer
  77. firmware-linux-nonfree
  78. firmware-linux
  79. fontconfig-config
  80. fontconfig
  81. fortune-mod
  82. ftp
  83. fuse-utils
  84. g++-4.4
  85. g++
  86. gamin
  87. gawk
  88. gcalctool
  89. gcc-4.4-base
  90. gcc-4.4
  91. gcc
  92. gconf2-common
  93. gconf2
  94. gdebi-core
  95. gdebi
  96. gedit-plugins
  97. gettext-base
  98. ghostscript
  99. giblib1
  100. gimp-data
  101. gimp-gmic
  102. gimp-plugin-registry
  103. gimp
  104. gksu
  105. gnome-bluetooth
  106. gnome-doc-utils
  107. gnome-icon-theme
  108. gnome-keyring
  109. gnome-mime-data
  110. gnome-user-guide
  111. gnumeric-common
  112. gnumeric
  113. gnupg
  114. gparted
  115. gpgv
  116. grep
  117. groff-base
  118. gsfonts
  119. gsimplecal
  120. gstreamer0.10-alsa
  121. gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
  122. gtk2-engines-murrine
  123. gtk2-engines-pixbuf
  124. gtk2-engines-xfce
  125. gtk2-engines
  126. gtrayicon
  127. gvfs-backends
  128. gvfs
  129. gzip
  130. hal-info
  131. hal
  132. hddtemp
  133. hdparm
  134. hicolor-icon-theme
  135. hostname
  136. human-icon-theme
  137. hunspell-en-us
  138. ifupdown
  139. imagemagick
  140. info
  141. initramfs-tools
  142. initscripts
  143. insserv
  144. install-info
  145. inxi
  146. iproute
  147. iptables
  148. iputils-ping
  149. iso-codes
  150. jfsutils
  151. kbd
  152. lame
  153. less
  154. lha
  155. liba52-0.7.4
  156. libaa1
  157. libabiword-2.8
  158. libacl1
  159. libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a
  160. libaiksaurus-1.2-data
  161. libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a
  162. libalgorithm-diff-perl
  163. libalgorithm-diff-xs-perl
  164. libalgorithm-merge-perl
  165. libarchive1
  166. libart-2.0-2
  167. libasound2
  168. libaspell15
  169. libass4
  170. libasyncns0
  171. libatasmart4
  172. libatk1.0-0
  173. libatk1.0-data
  174. libattr1
  175. libaudio2
  176. libaudiofile0
  177. libaudit0
  178. libavc1394-0
  179. libavcodec52
  180. libavformat52
  181. libavutil49
  182. libbabl-0.0-0
  183. libblas3gf
  184. libblkid1
  185. libbluetooth3
  186. libbonobo2-0
  187. libbonobo2-common
  188. libbonoboui2-0
  189. libbonoboui2-common
  190. libboost-iostreams1.42.0
  191. libbsd0
  192. libbz2-1.0
  193. libc-bin
  194. libc-dev-bin
  195. libc6-dev
  196. libc6
  197. libcaca0
  198. libcairo-perl
  199. libcairomm-1.0-1
  200. libcap-ng0
  201. libcap2
  202. libcddb2
  203. libcdio-cdda0
  204. libcdio-paranoia0
  205. libcdio10
  206. libcdparanoia0
  207. libcdt4
  208. libck-connector0
  209. libcolamd2.7.1
  210. libcroco3
  211. libcups2
  212. libcupsimage2
  213. libcwidget3
  214. libdatrie1
  215. libdb4.7
  216. libdb4.8
  217. libdbus-glib-1-2
  218. libdc1394-22
  219. libdca0
  220. libdevmapper1.02.1
  221. libdirac-encoder0
  222. libdirectfb-1.2-9
  223. libdjvulibre-text
  224. libdjvulibre21
  225. libdrm-intel1
  226. libdrm-nouveau1
  227. libdrm-radeon1
  228. libdrm2
  229. libdvbpsi6
  230. libdvdcss2
  231. libdvdnav4
  232. libdvdread4
  233. libebml0
  234. libedit2
  235. libeggdbus-1-0
  236. libelf1
  237. libenca0
  238. libenchant1c2a
  239. libept1
  240. libesd0
  241. libevent-1.4-2
  242. libevince2
  243. libexif12
  244. libexiv2-9
  245. libexo-0.3-0
  246. libexo-common
  247. libexpat1
  248. libfaad2
  249. libffi5
  250. libfftw3-3
  251. libflac8
  252. libfont-afm-perl
  253. libfont-freetype-perl
  254. libfontconfig1
  255. libfontenc1
  256. libfribidi0
  257. libfs6
  258. libfuse2
  259. libgail18
  260. libgamin0
  261. libgcc1
  262. libgconf2-4
  263. libgcr0
  264. libgcrypt11
  265. libgd2-noxpm
  266. libgdbm3
  267. libgdome2-0
  268. libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a
  269. libgdu0
  270. libgegl-0.0-0
  271. libgfortran3
  272. libgif4
  273. libgimp2.0
  274. libgksu2-0
  275. libgl1-mesa-dri
  276. libgl1-mesa-glx
  277. libglade2-0
  278. libglew1.5
  279. libglib-perl
  280. libglib2.0-0
  281. libglib2.0-data
  282. libglibmm-2.4-1c2a
  283. libglu1-mesa
  284. libgmp3c2
  285. libgnome-bluetooth7
  286. libgnome-keyring0
  287. libgnome2-0
  288. libgnome2-canvas-perl
  289. libgnome2-common
  290. libgnome2-perl
  291. libgnome2-vfs-perl
  292. libgnomecanvas2-0
  293. libgnomecanvas2-common
  294. libgnomeui-0
  295. libgnomeui-common
  296. libgnomevfs2-0
  297. libgnomevfs2-common
  298. libgnomevfs2-extra
  299. libgnutls26
  300. libgoffice-0.8-8-common
  301. libgoffice-0.8-8
  302. libgomp1
  303. libgp11-0
  304. libgpg-error0
  305. libgphoto2-2
  306. libgphoto2-port0
  307. libgpm2
  308. libgraph4
  309. libgs8
  310. libgsf-1-114
  311. libgsf-1-common
  312. libgsm1
  313. libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0
  314. libgstreamer0.10-0
  315. libgtk2-perl
  316. libgtk2.0-0
  317. libgtk2.0-bin
  318. libgtk2.0-common
  319. libgtkglext1
  320. libgtkmathview0c2a
  321. libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a
  322. libgtksourceview2.0-0
  323. libgtksourceview2.0-common
  324. libgtop2-7
  325. libgtop2-common
  326. libgucharmap7
  327. libgudev-1.0-0
  328. libgvc5
  329. libhal-storage1
  330. libhal1
  331. libhtml-format-perl
  332. libhtml-parser-perl
  333. libhtml-tagset-perl
  334. libhtml-tree-perl
  335. libhunspell-1.2-0
  336. libice6
  337. libicu44
  338. libid3tag0
  339. libidl0
  340. libidn11
  341. libilmbase6
  342. libimlib2
  343. libimobiledevice1
  344. libiso9660-7
  345. libisofs6
  346. libiw30
  347. libjasper1
  348. libjbig2dec0
  349. libjpeg-progs
  350. libjpeg62
  351. libjpeg8
  352. libkate1
  353. libkeybinder0
  354. libkeyutils1
  355. libkpathsea5
  356. liblapack3gf
  357. liblcms1
  358. liblink-grammar4
  359. liblircclient0
  360. liblocale-gettext-perl
  361. libloudmouth1-0
  362. liblqr-1-0
  363. libltdl7
  364. liblua5.1-0
  365. liblzma2
  366. liblzo2-2
  367. libmad0
  368. libmagic1
  369. libmagickcore3-extra
  370. libmagickcore3
  371. libmagickwand3
  372. libmailtools-perl
  373. libmatroska0
  374. libmng1
  375. libmpcdec6
  376. libmpeg2-4
  377. libmpfr4
  378. libmtp8
  379. libmysqlclient16
  380. libncurses5
  381. libncursesw5
  382. libnetpbm10
  383. libnewt0.52
  384. libnfnetlink0
  385. libnl1
  386. libnotify1
  387. libnspr4-0d
  388. libntfs-3g75
  389. libntfs10
  390. libogg0
  391. libopenexr6
  392. libopenjpeg2
  393. libopenobex1
  394. libopenraw1
  395. liborbit2
  396. liborc-0.4-0
  397. libots0
  398. libpam-ck-connector
  399. libpam-gnome-keyring
  400. libpam-modules
  401. libpam-runtime
  402. libpam0g
  403. libpango-perl
  404. libpangomm-1.4-1
  405. libpaper-utils
  406. libpaper1
  407. libparted0debian1
  408. libpathplan4
  409. libpcap0.8
  410. libpci3
  411. libpciaccess0
  412. libpcre3
  413. libpcsclite1
  414. libpixman-1-0
  415. libpkcs11-helper1
  416. libplist1
  417. libpolkit-agent-1-0
  418. libpolkit-backend-1-0
  419. libpolkit-gobject-1-0
  420. libpoppler-glib4
  421. libpoppler5
  422. libpopt0
  423. libpostproc51
  424. libproxy0
  425. libpython2.6
  426. librarian0
  427. libraw1394-11
  428. libreadline5
  429. libreadline6
  430. librecode0
  431. librpm1
  432. librpmio1
  433. librsvg2-2
  434. librsvg2-common
  435. libsasl2-2
  436. libsasl2-modules
  437. libschroedinger-1.0-0
  438. libsdl-image1.2
  439. libsdl1.2debian-alsa
  440. libsdl1.2debian
  441. libselinux1
  442. libsensors4
  443. libsepol1
  444. libsexy2
  445. libsgutils2-2
  446. libshout3
  447. libsigc++-2.0-0c2a
  448. libslang2
  449. libsm6
  450. libsoup-gnome2.4-1
  451. libsoup2.4-1
  452. libspectre1
  453. libspeex1
  454. libsqlite3-0
  455. libssh2-1
  456. libstartup-notification0
  457. libstdc++6-4.4-dev
  458. libstdc++6
  459. libsvga1
  460. libswscale0
  461. libsysfs2
  462. libt1-5
  463. libtag1-vanilla
  464. libtag1c2a
  465. libtagc0
  466. libtalloc2
  467. libtar
  468. libtasn1-3
  469. libtext-charwidth-perl
  470. libtext-iconv-perl
  471. libtext-wrapi18n-perl
  472. libthai-data
  473. libthai0
  474. libtheora0
  475. libthunar-vfs-1-2
  476. libtimedate-perl
  477. libts-0.0-0
  478. libtwolame0
  479. libudev0
  480. libunique-1.0-0
  481. libupnp3
  482. liburi-perl
  483. libusb-0.1-4
  484. libusb-1.0-0
  485. libusbmuxd1
  486. libuuid-perl
  487. libuuid1
  488. libv4l-0
  489. libvcdinfo0
  490. libvisual-0.4-0
  491. libvisual-0.4-plugins
  492. libvorbis0a
  493. libvorbisenc2
  494. libvpx0
  495. libvte-common
  496. libvte9
  497. libwmf0.2-7
  498. libwnck-common
  499. libwnck22
  500. libwpd8c2a
  501. libwpg-0.1-1
  502. libwps-0.1-1
  503. libwrap0
  504. libwv-1.2-3
  505. libwww-perl
  506. libx11-6
  507. libx11-data
  508. libx11-xcb1
  509. libx86-1
  510. libxapian22
  511. libxau6
  512. libxaw7
  513. libxcb-atom1
  514. libxcb-aux0
  515. libxcb-dri2-0
  516. libxcb-event1
  517. libxcb-keysyms1
  518. libxcb-randr0
  519. libxcb-render-util0
  520. libxcb-render0
  521. libxcb-shm0
  522. libxcb-xv0
  523. libxcb1
  524. libxcomposite1
  525. libxcursor1
  526. libxdamage1
  527. libxdmcp6
  528. libxdot4
  529. libxext6
  530. libxfce4menu-0.1-0
  531. libxfce4util-bin
  532. libxfce4util-common
  533. libxfce4util4
  534. libxfcegui4-4
  535. libxfconf-0-2
  536. libxfixes3
  537. libxft2
  538. libxi6
  539. libxinerama1
  540. libxkbfile1
  541. libxklavier16
  542. libxml-parser-perl
  543. libxmu6
  544. libxmuu1
  545. libxpm4
  546. libxrandr2
  547. libxrender1
  548. libxres1
  549. libxslt1.1
  550. libxss1
  551. libxt6
  552. libxtst6
  553. libxv1
  554. libxvmc1
  555. libxxf86dga1
  556. libxxf86vm1
  557. link-grammar-dictionaries-en
  558. linux-image-2.6-amd64
  559. linux-sound-base
  560. liquorix-archive-keyring
  561. liquorix-keyring
  562. liquorix-keyrings
  563. lm-sensors
  564. locales
  565. logrotate
  566. lp-solve
  567. lsb-base
  568. lsb-release
  569. lsof
  570. lzop
  571. make
  572. man-db
  573. manpages-dev
  574. manpages
  575. mawk
  576. menu
  577. mesa-utils
  578. mime-support
  579. miscfiles
  580. mobile-broadband-provider-info
  581. modemmanager
  582. module-init-tools
  583. mount
  584. mtools
  585. mysql-common
  586. nano
  587. ncurses-base
  588. ncurses-bin
  589. net-tools
  590. netbase
  591. netcat-traditional
  592. netpbm
  593. network-manager-gnome
  594. network-manager-openvpn-gnome
  595. network-manager-openvpn
  596. network-manager-pptp-gnome
  597. network-manager-pptp
  598. network-manager-vpnc-gnome
  599. network-manager-vpnc
  600. notify-osd
  601. ntfs-3g
  602. ntfsprogs
  603. obex-data-server
  604. obexd-client
  605. openssh-blacklist-extra
  606. openssh-blacklist
  607. openssh-client
  608. openssl-blacklist
  609. openvpn-blacklist
  610. openvpn
  611. orage
  612. os-prober
  613. oss-compat
  614. p7zip-full
  615. patch
  616. pciutils
  617. plymouth-themes-all
  618. plymouth-themes-fade-in
  619. plymouth-themes-glow
  620. plymouth-themes-script
  621. plymouth-themes-solar
  622. plymouth-themes-spinfinity
  623. plymouth
  624. pm-utils
  625. policykit-1-gnome
  626. policykit-1
  627. poppler-utils
  628. powermgmt-base
  629. ppp
  630. pptp-linux
  631. procps
  632. psmisc
  633. python-cairo
  634. python-central
  635. python-chardet
  636. python-dbus
  637. python-debian
  638. python-gconf
  639. python-glade2
  640. python-gnome2
  641. python-gnupginterface
  642. python-gobject
  643. python-gtk2
  644. python-gtksourceview2
  645. python-keybinder
  646. python-notify
  647. python-numpy
  648. python-pyorbit
  649. python-software-properties
  650. python-support
  651. python-vte
  652. python-xapian
  653. python-xdg
  654. python2.6-minimal
  655. python2.6
  656. radeontool
  657. rarian-compat
  658. readline-common
  659. reiser4progs
  660. reiserfsprogs
  661. rpl
  662. rpm-common
  663. rpm2cpio
  664. rsync
  665. rsyslog
  666. rzip
  667. screen
  668. scrot
  669. sed
  670. sensible-utils
  671. sgml-base
  672. sgml-data
  673. shared-mime-info
  674. software-properties-gtk
  675. sshfs
  676. statler-theme
  677. suckless-tools
  678. synaptic
  679. sysv-rc
  680. sysvinit-utils
  681. sysvinit
  682. tangerine-icon-theme
  683. tango-icon-theme
  684. tar
  685. tasksel-data
  686. tasksel
  687. tcl8.4
  688. tcpd
  689. terminator
  690. thunar-archive-plugin
  691. thunar-data
  692. thunar-dropbox
  693. thunar-media-tags-plugin
  694. thunar-thumbnailers
  695. thunar-volman
  696. thunar
  697. tint2
  698. tint2conf
  699. traceroute
  700. transmission-common
  701. transmission-gtk
  702. tsconf
  703. ttf-dejavu-core
  704. ttf-dejavu-extra
  705. ttf-dejavu
  706. ttf-freefont
  707. ttf-lyx
  708. ttf-mscorefonts-installer
  709. ucf
  710. udev
  711. udisks
  712. ufraw-batch
  713. unace
  714. unalz
  715. unattended-upgrades
  716. unrar
  717. unzip
  718. usb-modeswitch
  719. usbmuxd
  720. usbutils
  721. user-setup
  722. util-linux
  723. uuid-runtime
  724. vbetool
  725. viewnior
  726. vim-common
  727. vim-tiny
  728. volumeicon
  729. vpnc
  730. w64codecs
  731. wget
  732. whiptail
  733. whois
  734. wireless-tools
  735. wpasupplicant
  736. x-ttcidfont-conf
  737. x11-apps
  738. x11-common
  739. x11-session-utils
  740. x11-utils
  741. x11-xfs-utils
  742. x11-xkb-utils
  743. xauth
  744. xbase-clients
  745. xchat-common
  746. xchat
  747. xdg-user-dirs
  748. xdg-utils
  749. xfburn
  750. xfce-keyboard-shortcuts
  751. xfce4-appfinder
  752. xfce4-mixer
  753. xfce4-panel
  754. xfce4-power-manager-data
  755. xfce4-power-manager
  756. xfce4-screenshooter
  757. xfce4-session
  758. xfce4-settings
  759. xfce4-terminal
  760. xfce4-utils
  761. xfce4-volumed
  762. xfce4
  763. xfconf
  764. xfdesktop4-data
  765. xfdesktop4
  766. xfonts-100dpi
  767. xfonts-75dpi
  768. xfonts-base
  769. xfonts-encodings
  770. xfonts-scalable
  771. xfonts-utils
  772. xfsprogs
  773. xfwm4-themes
  774. xfwm4
  775. xinit
  776. xinput
  777. xkb-data
  778. xli
  779. xml-core
  780. xorg-docs-core
  781. xorg
  782. xscreensaver-data
  783. xscreensaver
  784. xserver-xorg-input-all
  785. xserver-xorg-input-evdev
  786. xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
  787. xserver-xorg-input-wacom
  788. xserver-xorg-video-all
  789. xserver-xorg-video-apm
  790. xserver-xorg-video-ark
  791. xserver-xorg-video-ati
  792. xserver-xorg-video-chips
  793. xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
  794. xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
  795. xserver-xorg-video-i128
  796. xserver-xorg-video-mach64
  797. xserver-xorg-video-mga
  798. xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  799. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
  800. xserver-xorg-video-nv
  801. xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
  802. xserver-xorg-video-r128
  803. xserver-xorg-video-radeon
  804. xserver-xorg-video-rendition
  805. xserver-xorg-video-s3
  806. xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
  807. xserver-xorg-video-savage
  808. xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
  809. xserver-xorg-video-sis
  810. xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
  811. xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
  812. xserver-xorg-video-trident
  813. xserver-xorg-video-vesa
  814. xserver-xorg-video-vmware
  815. xserver-xorg-video-voodoo
  816. xserver-xorg
  817. xsltproc
  818. xz-utils
  819. yelp
  820. zenity
  821. zip
  822. zlib1g
  823. zoo
My additions
  1. google-chrome-beta
  2. base-files
  3. dpkg
  4. e2fslibs
  5. e2fsprogs
  6. grub-common
  7. grub-pc
  8. libfreetype6
  9. libperl5.10
  10. login
  11. perl-modules
  12. perl
  13. apt-utils
  14. apt
  15. ca-certificates
  16. console-setup
  17. dbus-x11
  18. dbus
  19. isc-dhcp-client
  20. isc-dhcp-common
  21. keyboard-configuration
  22. libcomerr2
  23. libdbus-1-3
  24. libgssapi-krb5-2
  25. libk5crypto3
  26. libkrb5-3
  27. libkrb5support0
  28. libldap-2.4-2
  29. libss2
  30. libssl0.9.8
  31. libxml2
  32. linux-base
  33. linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
  34. openssl
  35. passwd
  36. perl-base
  37. python-apt-common
  38. python-apt
  39. python-minimal
  40. python
  41. tzdata
  42. desktop-base
  43. dpkg-dev
  44. firmware-linux-free
  45. gedit-common
  46. gedit
  47. klibc-utils
  48. libavahi-client3
  49. libavahi-common-data
  50. libavahi-common3
  51. libavahi-glib1
  52. libburn4
  53. libcairo2
  54. libcurl3-gnutls
  55. libcurl3
  56. libdpkg-perl
  57. libklibc
  58. libmodplug1
  59. libnautilus-extension1
  60. libnm-glib-vpn1
  61. libnm-glib2
  62. libnm-util1
  63. libnss3-1d
  64. libpango1.0-0
  65. libpango1.0-common
  66. libpng12-0
  67. libpulse0
  68. libqt4-dbus
  69. libqt4-designer
  70. libqt4-network
  71. libqt4-qt3support
  72. libqt4-script
  73. libqt4-sql-mysql
  74. libqt4-sql
  75. libqt4-xml
  76. libqtcore4
  77. libqtgui4
  78. libsmbclient
  79. libsndfile1
  80. libtiff-tools
  81. libtiff4
  82. libvlc5
  83. libvlccore4
  84. libwbclient0
  85. libwebkit-1.0-2
  86. libwebkit-1.0-common
  87. libxfont1
  88. libxml2-utils
  89. linux-libc-dev
  90. live-boot-initramfs-tools
  91. live-boot
  92. live-config-sysvinit
  93. live-config
  94. qt4-qtconfig
  95. vlc-data
  96. live-initramfs
  97. network-manager
  98. python-libxml2
  99. sudo
  100. ttf-liberation
  101. usb-modeswitch-data
  102. vlc-nox
  103. vlc-plugin-notify
  104. vlc-plugin-pulse
  105. vlc
  106. x11-xserver-utils
  107. xserver-common
  108. xserver-xorg-core
  109. xserver-xorg-video-intel
  110. xserver-xorg-video-tseng
  111. cl-asdf
  112. clisp
  113. common-lisp-controller
  114. ed
  115. feynmf
  116. lacheck
  117. latex-beamer
  118. latex-xcolor
  119. libffcall1
  120. libmagick++3
  121. libplot2c2
  122. libpstoedit0c2a
  123. libsigsegv0
  124. lmodern
  125. luatex
  126. pgf
  127. prosper
  128. ps2eps
  129. pstoedit
  130. purifyeps
  131. realpath
  132. tex-common
  133. texlive-base
  134. texlive-binaries
  135. texlive-common
  136. texlive-doc-base
  137. texlive-extra-utils
  138. texlive-font-utils
  139. texlive-fonts-recommended-doc
  140. texlive-fonts-recommended
  141. texlive-generic-recommended
  142. texlive-latex-base-doc
  143. texlive-latex-base
  144. texlive-latex-recommended-doc
  145. texlive-latex-recommended
  146. texlive-luatex
  147. texlive-metapost-doc
  148. texlive-metapost
  149. texlive-pstricks-doc
  150. texlive-pstricks
  151. texlive
  152. tipa
  153. xindy-rules
  154. xindy
  155. autopoint
  156. autotools-dev
  157. cdbs
  158. debhelper
  159. dpatch
  160. gettext
  161. gfortran-4.4
  162. gfortran
  163. git
  164. html2text
  165. intltool-debian
  166. libblas-dev
  167. libbz2-dev
  168. liberror-perl
  169. libjpeg62-dev
  170. liblapack-dev
  171. libmail-sendmail-perl
  172. libncurses5-dev
  173. libpcre3-dev
  174. libpcrecpp0
  175. libpng12-dev
  176. libreadline-dev
  177. libreadline6-dev
  178. libsys-hostname-long-perl
  179. libunistring0
  180. patchutils
  181. po-debconf
  182. r-base-core
  183. r-base-dev
  184. r-base-html
  185. r-base
  186. r-cran-boot
  187. r-cran-class
  188. r-cran-cluster
  189. r-cran-codetools
  190. r-cran-foreign
  191. r-cran-kernsmooth
  192. r-cran-lattice
  193. r-cran-mass
  194. r-cran-matrix
  195. r-cran-mgcv
  196. r-cran-nlme
  197. r-cran-nnet
  198. r-cran-rpart
  199. r-cran-spatial
  200. r-cran-survival
  201. r-doc-html
  202. r-recommended
  203. tcl8.5
  204. tk8.5
  205. zlib1g-dev
  206. rstudio
  207. libapr1
  208. libaprutil1
  209. libneon27-gnutls
  210. libserf-0-0
  211. libsvn1
  212. subversion
  213. mendeleydesktop
  214. network-manager-openconnect
  215. openconnect
  216. cpp-4.3
  217. gcc-4.3-base
  218. gcc-4.3
  219. linux-headers-2.6.32-5-amd64
  220. linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common
  221. linux-kbuild-2.6.32
  222. e4rat
  223. libc6-i386
  224. ia32-libs
  225. lib32asound2
  226. lib32bz2-1.0
  227. lib32gcc1
  228. lib32ncurses5
  229. lib32stdc++6
  230. lib32v4l-0
  231. lib32z1
  232. libwine-unstable
  233. libwine-bin-unstable
  234. wine-bin-unstable
  235. libwine-gl-unstable
  236. libwine-oss-unstable
  237. libwine-print-unstable
  238. libwine-sane-unstable
  239. libwine-cms-unstable
  240. libwine-gphoto2-unstable
  241. libwine-ldap-unstable
  242. libwine-openal-unstable
  243. wine-unstable

09/03/2011 09:48 #55075

Wine + PDFXchange on Crunchbang
Category: linux
I tried some alternatives but they all appallingly bad (e:tinypliny,55072). So I am back to Wine + PDFXchange in my new crunchbang install. Running notes from the install:

The Wine for amd64 machines come from the dev.carbon-project.org repository as recommended by WineHQ for 64 bit systems:

The libraries that are essential to the wine install are:

  • lib32asound2
  • lib32bz2-1.0
  • lib32gcc1
  • lib32ncurses5
  • lib32stdc++6
  • lib32v4l-0
  • lib32z1
  • libc6-i386
  • libwine-bin-unstable
  • libwine-cms-unstable
  • libwine-gl-unstable
  • libwine-gphoto2-unstable
  • libwine-ldap-unstable
  • libwine-openal-unstable
  • libwine-oss-unstable
  • libwine-print-unstable
  • libwine-sane-unstable
  • libwine-unstable
  • wine-bin-unstable
  • wine-unstable


In that particular order. I discovered this nifty command that can tell you the exact date and time of the all the packages installed on your system.

ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list -lh


Pipe it to a list on your home directory

ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list -lh >packagelist.txt



Using gnumeric, I sorted the list by date and time and et voila, I have a neat list of what was installed as a part of what and in what order.

The next step is of course installing PDF Xchange Reader from the PDF Xchange website

tinypliny - 09/03/11 10:26
I couldn't locate a consolidated stable wine package for 64 bit systems. I looked for a while and then got lazy when I saw all of this was available in one place. Do you know where they are?
paul - 09/03/11 10:11
I see a lot of unstables there.