I've blogged about this before on a couple of occasions and I'm bringing it up again this year, as it is about time for the local CSAs to be cranking out their bounty to the locals.
For a primer or two on what CSA is all about:
Wiki - Local Harvest CSA basics -
I don't know why more people don't do this, particularly you guys and gals that I know in New York and San Francisco (I do suspect CSA is a way of life in the Bay Area), or anyone else who lives in a large urban area without easy access to farm stands. Farmers markets are a great option (any city I visit, this is the first thing I want to know about), but there are a few important advantages to a CSA that I'd like to highlight, or rehighlight if you checked out those links:
a) with a CSA you'll get a better deal over the course of the season compared to retail - beautiful, organically grown produce on the cheap;
b) with a CSA, you're establishing a direct link with a local farmer and you'll know exactly where your food is coming from and under what conditions it is being grown/raised;
c) you are getting food for your money, but what you are really doing is giving these farmers seed money for their yearly operation - you are directly helping to sustain a local farm. To me that's a beautiful thing. They encourage you to go help on the farm as well, which if possible can yield a discount on your share price. I see another benefit to this - to get off of the city block, away from the racket and get out to the land, clean up your soul a bit. It can't hurt if you lead a stressful life and you'd get to know the people growing your food.
I could go on a rant about how I believe that upstate NY should be the east coast's version of the Bay Area in terms of local, seasonable, ethical, sustainable production of food. I'm a true believer - I'm a dreamer in the sense that I think all organic farmers in upstate NY should band together, push, expand and market this concept to the entire eastern seaboard. I'm talking about a new kind of agro-industrial complex whereby the conglomerate isn't an assembly of small numbers of massive farms, but massive numbers of small farms; independent but linked together with marketing efforts, shared information, a shared belief system, common goals - a brotherhood of sorts.
I'm a believer in producing food organically, with an important caveat. If it can be done without the hormones, without the pesticides, without the nasty stuff - it should be done that way. The nice thing is that over the past 5 years organic produce has gotten cheaper, but here is my big caveat with organic food that frustrates me - the basics, milk and eggs, are oppressively expensive. This is a fundamental failure of the movement. Getting together with a CSA can solve this problem (somewhat, anyway) but not all CSAs deal with dairy, poultry and beef.
I'm going to keep my eyes out for alternatives and post about them, if you really want those fresh farm eggs and hormone-free milk. Keep in mind - you can already buy milk and eggs that are practically organic but the farm simply haven't paid the thousands of dollars to the government for the privilege of being certified. (Newer farms starting up and trying to do things the right way often fall prey to this - cash is short and they put the money into the farm, not the bureaucrats). Screw the government - with a little research you can find these products that are "practically" organic, and they'll be cheaper. A local farm near my hometown of Jamestown sells such eggs (naturally raised, free range, chemical-free, etc.) for $2 a dozen. Who doesn't love the charm of a box of multi-colored eggs like that?
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06/03/2009 12:29 #48830
Community Supported Agriculture06/02/2009 09:32 #48823
The Greatest Prank In HistoryPerhaps you've heard of this already. For those of you who have not, Sacha Baron Cohen has one question - "Hey Eminem, how does my ass taste?"
I love this picture. Eminem looks like he's short of breath. What's wrong, bud?
Read more about it here - you'll see some pictures and a video of the stunt.
How gay is Bruno? I think this character has the potential to be even more outrageous than Borat.
The thing about Baron Cohen, which they do point out, is that typically his characters victimize unsuspecting individuals who are not in on the joke. As it turns out, the joke was on all of the celebrities in attendance - Eminem was in on it, complete with a full dress rehearsal.
I love this picture. Eminem looks like he's short of breath. What's wrong, bud?
Read more about it here - you'll see some pictures and a video of the stunt.
How gay is Bruno? I think this character has the potential to be even more outrageous than Borat.
The thing about Baron Cohen, which they do point out, is that typically his characters victimize unsuspecting individuals who are not in on the joke. As it turns out, the joke was on all of the celebrities in attendance - Eminem was in on it, complete with a full dress rehearsal.
metalpeter - 06/02/09 19:33
That was the highlight of the night and I watched some of the awards over again just to see that part. He sold it so well that he couldn't stand it. Security played it so well by attacking him. It was perfect it really was. I think Eminem being who he is made it seem so real. I'm guessing that if he heard Paris was asked first and said no, he knew it would be great to get that buzz going. He does have a new CD and Tour, buzz helps. The part that is ironic now is that in one of his songs he picks on Tom Green and does that line about my butt is on chin my butt is on your chin. On another little side note I don't really know this charcter but I did see a preview before a movie I saw recently and Bruno looks very funny I and others where laughing at the preview (before terminator).
That was the highlight of the night and I watched some of the awards over again just to see that part. He sold it so well that he couldn't stand it. Security played it so well by attacking him. It was perfect it really was. I think Eminem being who he is made it seem so real. I'm guessing that if he heard Paris was asked first and said no, he knew it would be great to get that buzz going. He does have a new CD and Tour, buzz helps. The part that is ironic now is that in one of his songs he picks on Tom Green and does that line about my butt is on chin my butt is on your chin. On another little side note I don't really know this charcter but I did see a preview before a movie I saw recently and Bruno looks very funny I and others where laughing at the preview (before terminator).
joshua - 06/02/09 16:45
I know, I wrote about it at the bottom of the page... maybe I should have put that information first, before the trauma from the picture sets in! Ha. It was an amazing hoax though, and I still can't believe that Eminem went along with it. I almost cannot believe that he'd allow a bare-assed man to straddle his face, even in jest.
I know, I wrote about it at the bottom of the page... maybe I should have put that information first, before the trauma from the picture sets in! Ha. It was an amazing hoax though, and I still can't believe that Eminem went along with it. I almost cannot believe that he'd allow a bare-assed man to straddle his face, even in jest.
hodown - 06/02/09 11:06
It actually was a hoax, Eminem was miked up the entire time.
It actually was a hoax, Eminem was miked up the entire time.
james - 06/02/09 10:04
That picture... is... awesome! He does look out of breath, like he just had a heaping helping of ass and had to come up for air. Is that dribble on your chin sir?
I will take a look at the video and article when I get home.
That picture... is... awesome! He does look out of breath, like he just had a heaping helping of ass and had to come up for air. Is that dribble on your chin sir?
I will take a look at the video and article when I get home.
05/28/2009 16:35 #48775
Happy Birthday Golden GateOne of the most iconic Depression-era constructions, the Golden Gate Bridge, turns 72 today. SF Chronicle posted some pictures from many eras of its life -
Paid for at the time with a bond issue, as well as tolls (ostensibly for interest payments - the interest was paid off 38 years ago, but the tolls remain). Another Depression-era construction that is world famous - Rockefeller Center. Paid for entirely by John D. Rockefeller! Still in private hands as well.
Happy birthday to the most beautiful bridge on earth!
Paid for at the time with a bond issue, as well as tolls (ostensibly for interest payments - the interest was paid off 38 years ago, but the tolls remain). Another Depression-era construction that is world famous - Rockefeller Center. Paid for entirely by John D. Rockefeller! Still in private hands as well.
Happy birthday to the most beautiful bridge on earth!
twisted - 05/28/09 23:23
She's a beaut all right.
She's a beaut all right.
metalpeter - 05/28/09 18:45
Happy Birthday. It is an amazing bridge and it would be great to see it in person again it has been so long since I've seen it. I think it would be nice to be on that beach area also.
Happy Birthday. It is an amazing bridge and it would be great to see it in person again it has been so long since I've seen it. I think it would be nice to be on that beach area also.
tinypliny - 05/28/09 18:05
Actually, when I was in SFO, my brother and I went across the bridge to Sausalito and couldn't cross back. They had closed off the bridge because yet another jumper. One of the cordoning officers told us that he had jumped off of it a mere few minutes after we had walked past that spot!
Actually, when I was in SFO, my brother and I went across the bridge to Sausalito and couldn't cross back. They had closed off the bridge because yet another jumper. One of the cordoning officers told us that he had jumped off of it a mere few minutes after we had walked past that spot!
tinypliny - 05/28/09 17:51
Did you know that Joseph Strauss - the chief engineer of the bridge was just 1/2 an inch taller than me - at 5ft?
Apparently, the GGB holds the record for the maximum attempted as well as successful suicides off of any bridge.
:::link:::
Did you know that Joseph Strauss - the chief engineer of the bridge was just 1/2 an inch taller than me - at 5ft?
Apparently, the GGB holds the record for the maximum attempted as well as successful suicides off of any bridge.
:::link:::
05/23/2009 21:48 #48733
Farmer JoshMy first ever attempt to grow tomatoes starts here -
I went with Brandywine (got 'em at the Co-op - Porter Farms organic eco-'maters) mainly because of the shape and ultimate size of the fruit (beefsteak, and fucking huge - upwards of 2 lbs). Also, it was all they had at 9pm on Saturday. Oh well!
Doing some preliminary research showed me that this fruit is well suited to grow here, since it essentially originated along the northeastern seaboard. (This is an obvious point though, really - after all, they came from a WNY farm). The plants will allegedly grow up to 6-8 feet tall. I'm not sure what the best thing to do would be - indoors or outdoors. I suppose I'm a little concerned about the proximity to the street - this will definitely be done in a 5-gallon pot, or possibly larger, depending on what advice I get. I'm obsessed with making this work - the only thing I didn't consider was the 85-day or so period I'll be waiting until the fruit shows up. In August, I'm going to have the best organic brandywine tomatoes on 700 block of Elmwood, dammit!
Wish me luck. Any and all advice is most welcome.
Oh - what else. Today I spent most of the day alone in solitude, hanging out and enjoying myself. Jay went to see Keane play in Toronto with our bud JV, I stayed behind because this past week exhausted me. Before that, we went to the outlet to get (e:jason) new threads. It's fair to say that I dressed him, with the exception of the nice sneakers he got - he seemed to like the stuff I picked out as we went through, which I would say were bohemian enough for my tastes without completely sacrificing (e:jason)'s good looks and professionalism. Linen shirts and slacks, a nice casual, lightweight blazer, v-neck t-shirt, etc. - as for me, I replaced my well-worn Birkenstocks and really just came for the cruise and to help (e:jason). I read some short stories (which I'm still processing - Murakami is a strange man at times - go read his story "TV People"), ate gelato, had a mucho iced soy chai from you-know-where - overall, a lovely day.
I went with Brandywine (got 'em at the Co-op - Porter Farms organic eco-'maters) mainly because of the shape and ultimate size of the fruit (beefsteak, and fucking huge - upwards of 2 lbs). Also, it was all they had at 9pm on Saturday. Oh well!
Doing some preliminary research showed me that this fruit is well suited to grow here, since it essentially originated along the northeastern seaboard. (This is an obvious point though, really - after all, they came from a WNY farm). The plants will allegedly grow up to 6-8 feet tall. I'm not sure what the best thing to do would be - indoors or outdoors. I suppose I'm a little concerned about the proximity to the street - this will definitely be done in a 5-gallon pot, or possibly larger, depending on what advice I get. I'm obsessed with making this work - the only thing I didn't consider was the 85-day or so period I'll be waiting until the fruit shows up. In August, I'm going to have the best organic brandywine tomatoes on 700 block of Elmwood, dammit!
Wish me luck. Any and all advice is most welcome.
Oh - what else. Today I spent most of the day alone in solitude, hanging out and enjoying myself. Jay went to see Keane play in Toronto with our bud JV, I stayed behind because this past week exhausted me. Before that, we went to the outlet to get (e:jason) new threads. It's fair to say that I dressed him, with the exception of the nice sneakers he got - he seemed to like the stuff I picked out as we went through, which I would say were bohemian enough for my tastes without completely sacrificing (e:jason)'s good looks and professionalism. Linen shirts and slacks, a nice casual, lightweight blazer, v-neck t-shirt, etc. - as for me, I replaced my well-worn Birkenstocks and really just came for the cruise and to help (e:jason). I read some short stories (which I'm still processing - Murakami is a strange man at times - go read his story "TV People"), ate gelato, had a mucho iced soy chai from you-know-where - overall, a lovely day.
heidi - 05/29/09 14:19
My parents use large 1/2 barrels for their tomato plants. (e:Janelle)'s staking suggestions are good too. Good luck!
My parents use large 1/2 barrels for their tomato plants. (e:Janelle)'s staking suggestions are good too. Good luck!
tinypliny - 05/26/09 18:41
My friend gave me a cherry tomato plant and a chilly plant seedkit from Aerogarden :::link:::
Apparently, they are much much easier to grow than conventional plants. Additionally, they are supposed to give a richer yield and need no extra care. You may want to consider these if you are thinking "low-maintenance".
My friend gave me a cherry tomato plant and a chilly plant seedkit from Aerogarden :::link:::
Apparently, they are much much easier to grow than conventional plants. Additionally, they are supposed to give a richer yield and need no extra care. You may want to consider these if you are thinking "low-maintenance".
dcoffee - 05/25/09 15:29
Nice! I'm growing veggies too, in my shady South Buffalo lot. Most plants like full sun. Use excellent soil. Water it in the morning. Also, I learned a good trick just for tomato plants.. you have to trim the 'suckers' You won't see any yet, but once it gets about a foot tall you'll notice little branches sprouting between the leaves and the main stem, clip these off! They don't grow any fruit and drain the plant's energy, if you don't clip them you'll end up with a healthy lookin' bushy plant with few tomatoes. Some branches near the top will flower, but cut all the ones from the bottom 90% off. I picked this tip up from a farmer who has a degree in Earth Science :)
Come to my party on the 30th, I'll show you what I mean. I'm about to post the party invite here :)
Nice! I'm growing veggies too, in my shady South Buffalo lot. Most plants like full sun. Use excellent soil. Water it in the morning. Also, I learned a good trick just for tomato plants.. you have to trim the 'suckers' You won't see any yet, but once it gets about a foot tall you'll notice little branches sprouting between the leaves and the main stem, clip these off! They don't grow any fruit and drain the plant's energy, if you don't clip them you'll end up with a healthy lookin' bushy plant with few tomatoes. Some branches near the top will flower, but cut all the ones from the bottom 90% off. I picked this tip up from a farmer who has a degree in Earth Science :)
Come to my party on the 30th, I'll show you what I mean. I'm about to post the party invite here :)
jenks - 05/25/09 08:13
Yes, outside, lots of sun. That's been my problem (I think)- I had them in a pot on my little back porch which only gets sun in the morning, and my tomatoes that were supposed to be big beefsteaks looked more like cherry tomatoes, and I only got about 3.
But good luck- nothing like nice ripe homegrown tomatoes! (throw in a little fresh basil too, mmmmmm!)
Yes, outside, lots of sun. That's been my problem (I think)- I had them in a pot on my little back porch which only gets sun in the morning, and my tomatoes that were supposed to be big beefsteaks looked more like cherry tomatoes, and I only got about 3.
But good luck- nothing like nice ripe homegrown tomatoes! (throw in a little fresh basil too, mmmmmm!)
janelle - 05/24/09 09:14
Outdoors. On porch. Tomato plants like full sun. And you'll need to find stakes and cages as the plants grow. And you might want to read up on staking branches. If the tomatoes grow to be upwards of 2lbs, they can pull a branch down and tear it off so you have to support the branch.
Also, there's this spray that you can buy. You spray it on the leaves and blossoms and the fruit and it helps the tomato plant mature, blossom, and the fruit develop quicker if you're antsy about waiting 85 days.
I picked up some tomatoes at Urban Roots that have a maturation date of 60 days which I find exciting. I don't like to wait forever to taste the fruits of my labor. Lol. Check your e-mail. I offered you some veggie plants that I had left over from planting my garden the other day.
Outdoors. On porch. Tomato plants like full sun. And you'll need to find stakes and cages as the plants grow. And you might want to read up on staking branches. If the tomatoes grow to be upwards of 2lbs, they can pull a branch down and tear it off so you have to support the branch.
Also, there's this spray that you can buy. You spray it on the leaves and blossoms and the fruit and it helps the tomato plant mature, blossom, and the fruit develop quicker if you're antsy about waiting 85 days.
I picked up some tomatoes at Urban Roots that have a maturation date of 60 days which I find exciting. I don't like to wait forever to taste the fruits of my labor. Lol. Check your e-mail. I offered you some veggie plants that I had left over from planting my garden the other day.
05/22/2009 16:31 #48724
BBQ RantControversy
(e:jason) mentioning the BBQ article (I forgot that I had forwarded it to him!) has triggered the motivation to go on an old-fashioned rant as you've seen me do in the past.
To wit: (and I do read this paper daily - their food section is the best in America).
"While summer quenchers like light beer and iced tea are refreshing if you're mowing the lawn or tending a hot grill, I want a more robust adult beverage when I sit down to juicy slices of grilled beef or smoky, finger-licking barbecue."
Really? This is war. Thank God that in this country, for now anyway, we still have the freedom of choice. Or if you're me, the freedom of antipathy and excoriation. Let me translate - "While beer and iced tea are okay for the bumpkins who cut their own grass, I prefer a more sophisticated beverage with my BBQ. You know, less rough around the edges and more palatable to my banal sensitivities."
Food writers are generally insufferable. When the article started talking about "interplays" with sauce, smoke, etc. affecting the beverage of choice I had enough.
The Truth
Here's the deal. The food comes first, not the accompanying drink. Anyone that says otherwise is fucking wrong, okay? The fact that the article is titled "Pairing wines with grilling favorites" rather than "Pairing grilling favorites with wines" says it all. Now you certainly may expect to see this kind of thing in an overwhelmingly yuppie city like SF, where more often than not your exposure to BBQ will be in a sit-down restaurant with silverware, a water course, horrifying conversations going on around you and an utter lack of wet-naps.
Drinking wine with your BBQ is best done at home alone, where no BBQ cognoscenti will actually witness what is going on; sort of like your alcoholic uncle nipping from a flask in his jacket when nobody is looking.
Of course this sort of shit goes on in California - there is no reputable BBQ tradition there and the state is full of transients, both legal and illegal. This scenario is going to create a melting pot of theories about food, and let's face it, there is no better region for foodies anywhere in America than the Bay Area. Pair this with the famous wine industry in the area, and you're bound to have experimentation.
This isn't to say that it works, or that it is appropriate, mind you. Pairing BBQ with wine is as crazy a concept as pairing a burrito with wine. Hey (e:jay), do you think that Gramma Mora's last night could have been enhanced with a splash of Beaujolais? The spiciness of the sauce would have really made everything pop!
Fuck me, I can't even handle that in jest - I blame Bartles and fucking James and those 4-packs.
This is what you drink with BBQ if you wish to avoid embarrassment; beer (go easy drinking, you'll enjoy nowt with a stout), iced tea, water, or juice. BBQ is not a high-class endeavor - it is meant to be done amongst friends in a casual manner, out in the backyard with some tunes, green grass, plastic cups, fire, sunsets and the sort of good times our grandparents had.
BBQ is more than food, it's a classic American activity with a tradition that demands respect. Wine belongs just about anywhere other than with BBQ, just like sushi belonging just about anywhere other than a baseball stadium.
(e:jason) mentioning the BBQ article (I forgot that I had forwarded it to him!) has triggered the motivation to go on an old-fashioned rant as you've seen me do in the past.
To wit: (and I do read this paper daily - their food section is the best in America).
"While summer quenchers like light beer and iced tea are refreshing if you're mowing the lawn or tending a hot grill, I want a more robust adult beverage when I sit down to juicy slices of grilled beef or smoky, finger-licking barbecue."
Really? This is war. Thank God that in this country, for now anyway, we still have the freedom of choice. Or if you're me, the freedom of antipathy and excoriation. Let me translate - "While beer and iced tea are okay for the bumpkins who cut their own grass, I prefer a more sophisticated beverage with my BBQ. You know, less rough around the edges and more palatable to my banal sensitivities."
Food writers are generally insufferable. When the article started talking about "interplays" with sauce, smoke, etc. affecting the beverage of choice I had enough.
The Truth
Here's the deal. The food comes first, not the accompanying drink. Anyone that says otherwise is fucking wrong, okay? The fact that the article is titled "Pairing wines with grilling favorites" rather than "Pairing grilling favorites with wines" says it all. Now you certainly may expect to see this kind of thing in an overwhelmingly yuppie city like SF, where more often than not your exposure to BBQ will be in a sit-down restaurant with silverware, a water course, horrifying conversations going on around you and an utter lack of wet-naps.
Drinking wine with your BBQ is best done at home alone, where no BBQ cognoscenti will actually witness what is going on; sort of like your alcoholic uncle nipping from a flask in his jacket when nobody is looking.
Of course this sort of shit goes on in California - there is no reputable BBQ tradition there and the state is full of transients, both legal and illegal. This scenario is going to create a melting pot of theories about food, and let's face it, there is no better region for foodies anywhere in America than the Bay Area. Pair this with the famous wine industry in the area, and you're bound to have experimentation.
This isn't to say that it works, or that it is appropriate, mind you. Pairing BBQ with wine is as crazy a concept as pairing a burrito with wine. Hey (e:jay), do you think that Gramma Mora's last night could have been enhanced with a splash of Beaujolais? The spiciness of the sauce would have really made everything pop!
Fuck me, I can't even handle that in jest - I blame Bartles and fucking James and those 4-packs.
This is what you drink with BBQ if you wish to avoid embarrassment; beer (go easy drinking, you'll enjoy nowt with a stout), iced tea, water, or juice. BBQ is not a high-class endeavor - it is meant to be done amongst friends in a casual manner, out in the backyard with some tunes, green grass, plastic cups, fire, sunsets and the sort of good times our grandparents had.
BBQ is more than food, it's a classic American activity with a tradition that demands respect. Wine belongs just about anywhere other than with BBQ, just like sushi belonging just about anywhere other than a baseball stadium.
jason - 05/23/09 09:14
Right on Z. Kentucky Greg's is the shit. And I'm working on finding out which beer is best for what kind of BBQ. There are some resources.
I don't drink shitty beer under any circumstances. Well not any....perhaps on the golf course it's okay.
Right on Z. Kentucky Greg's is the shit. And I'm working on finding out which beer is best for what kind of BBQ. There are some resources.
I don't drink shitty beer under any circumstances. Well not any....perhaps on the golf course it's okay.
joshua - 05/23/09 01:23
Kentucky Greg's is the truth! People claim that Fat Bob's is the best in the Buffalo area... IMO they are entirely wrong. I've been hooked on their pork sandwich on the Texas toast for years. The smoke outside of that place drives me up a wall when we pull up.
I hate watery beer - you'd never catch me drinking a Coors Light around my grill, or anyone elses. That is weak! Then again, I'm picky about beer (although not nearly to the extent that these people in the article would be about wine).
You definitely don't want to disrespect what's on the plate with what is in the glass - please, I don't want to give the impression that drink is unimportant. IMO watery beer is a no-no in any scenario. At that point it is about personal pride and self-respect.
Kentucky Greg's is the truth! People claim that Fat Bob's is the best in the Buffalo area... IMO they are entirely wrong. I've been hooked on their pork sandwich on the Texas toast for years. The smoke outside of that place drives me up a wall when we pull up.
I hate watery beer - you'd never catch me drinking a Coors Light around my grill, or anyone elses. That is weak! Then again, I'm picky about beer (although not nearly to the extent that these people in the article would be about wine).
You definitely don't want to disrespect what's on the plate with what is in the glass - please, I don't want to give the impression that drink is unimportant. IMO watery beer is a no-no in any scenario. At that point it is about personal pride and self-respect.
zobar - 05/22/09 23:17
So are there specific kinds of beer which are to be avoided also?
I'm a longtime advocate of Kentucky Greg's :::link::: but their beer selection is [shall we say] a little limited. When I'm elbows-deep in barbecue sauce I don't want to wash it down with a watery-ass Bud any more than I want to listen to the Jimi Hendrix Experience Featuring Ace of Base. It's like, you don't want to disrespect what's on the plate with what's in the glass, you know? So why I gotta be sneaking Double Bag in my trench coat just because somebody thinks it's their damn business?
- Z
So are there specific kinds of beer which are to be avoided also?
I'm a longtime advocate of Kentucky Greg's :::link::: but their beer selection is [shall we say] a little limited. When I'm elbows-deep in barbecue sauce I don't want to wash it down with a watery-ass Bud any more than I want to listen to the Jimi Hendrix Experience Featuring Ace of Base. It's like, you don't want to disrespect what's on the plate with what's in the glass, you know? So why I gotta be sneaking Double Bag in my trench coat just because somebody thinks it's their damn business?
- Z
joshua - 05/22/09 17:19
Ok Tiny I bit on that. It made me realize that I forgot another BBQ faux pas - exchanging grilled meat for grilled vegetables. I would always meet the needs of a vegetarian friend if needed on my grill, don't get me wrong; I'll make a mean, mean portobello burger with fresh toppings made by hand an hour before, if it would please a vegetarian friend.; but health statistics are irrelevant when it comes to BBQ, particularly when they come from a vegetarian advocacy group. (If you're eating BBQ, you aren't counting calories or worried much about cancer).
Presumably they would tell me that grilling in general is bad and is cancer causing, so therefore it would be best if we all ate steamed vegetables and bulgur wheat. Fuck that - they can stuff it.
Ok Tiny I bit on that. It made me realize that I forgot another BBQ faux pas - exchanging grilled meat for grilled vegetables. I would always meet the needs of a vegetarian friend if needed on my grill, don't get me wrong; I'll make a mean, mean portobello burger with fresh toppings made by hand an hour before, if it would please a vegetarian friend.; but health statistics are irrelevant when it comes to BBQ, particularly when they come from a vegetarian advocacy group. (If you're eating BBQ, you aren't counting calories or worried much about cancer).
Presumably they would tell me that grilling in general is bad and is cancer causing, so therefore it would be best if we all ate steamed vegetables and bulgur wheat. Fuck that - they can stuff it.
jason - 05/22/09 16:56
I suppose next they're going to be talking about how BBQ is supposed to be enjoyed while listening to fuggin Tori Amos.
I suppose next they're going to be talking about how BBQ is supposed to be enjoyed while listening to fuggin Tori Amos.
joshua - 05/22/09 16:51
Nobody would be allowed to drink wine with BBQ here, but if I ever witnessed it I'd insist that the person drink out of a Dixie cup.
Nobody would be allowed to drink wine with BBQ here, but if I ever witnessed it I'd insist that the person drink out of a Dixie cup.
janelle - 05/22/09 16:39
Wine with BBQ?? As a mid-westerner who loves BBQ, that freaks me out a little. Who wants to hold a wine glass, anyway, with greasy barbecue hands? Cause it's not BBQ if it's not a little messy.
Wine with BBQ?? As a mid-westerner who loves BBQ, that freaks me out a little. Who wants to hold a wine glass, anyway, with greasy barbecue hands? Cause it's not BBQ if it's not a little messy.
eco-villian. thats my new favorite word!
NYC is in itself a giant carbon footprint. The mere decision to live there makes one an eco-villain. :)
Hahaha, I love that term. Eco-villain. Who would Captain Planet's arch nemesis be?
Seriously though Jess I have been buying more organic food lately and so far I do like it. I have no idea what spurred Josh's interest in this. I do like the idea of knowing where my food came from and who made it.
Speaking of carbon footprints, buying organic food from California, Chile, etc. is counterproductive in that regard.
I would suspect that people in the city would be doing this - few of my own friends in the area seem to be into it and I wonder why... maybe they don't share my enthusiasm, aren't sure they'd eat everything, etc. It's interesting - this sort of thing is a new food trend (just about everywhere except the Bay Area, which generally gave birth to the concept) but why? It's not exactly a new concept in WNY - Porter Farms has being doing their CSA for 14 years now - but these things haven't been common knowledge. So in my mind it seems that public awareness is really only catching up now with what's been available for some time, and now the demand is encouraging even more CSA programs. I think it's great.
I want to sign up with Porter Farms but I'm frustrated by a snag in their program - as part of the deal you have to agree to drive to the farm in rotation with other members in your "group." I'm not opposed to going to the farm 1 to 3 times a season - in fact I'd love it - but how am I going to carry all of the stuff for everyone in my group? What about those who would like to join but don't drive?
Um we do CSAs here in the city. Eating local and as organic as possible is a HUGE new food trend. It's all about reducing your carbon footprint :)
You hippie visionary, you.
I've thought about doing that, but with a pig.
Not that I'm tempting anybody :) but think about the bacon!!
I went in with (e:James) and (e:Jim) to buy a portion of a cow through a local CSA. It won't be ready until the fall, but I can't wait to try the meat!