We had a fixture in our bathtub break off. It is the fixture that controls the plug to make the tub drain or retain water. It was beyond our ability to repair, sadly. After a couple of months of a do-it-yourself fix using a wire coat hanger (hat tip to Drew on that one), we finally called a plumber.
We got charged a lot of money for the plumber to put two holes in our wall. Whatever homeowner put the plumbing in must have been awfully optimistic that there would never be a plumbing problem, because they didn't put in an access door to the plumbing. I guess they won, because we're the ones stuck with the problem.
Apparently, putting holes in the wall was a hit or miss kind of thing because here's hole #1 leading to nothing:
And here's hole #2 which led to what he needed:
And here's the two fixtures that he replaced in the bathtub I now need to clean:
Apparently the large sum he charged us didn't include putting a door on or replacing the plaster or tidying up a bit in the bathroom. So, we'll be doing those fun little projects ourselves.
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12/04/2008 20:02 #46960
The Plumber12/03/2008 15:19 #46937
House AssessmentsAny of you fellow homeowners receive the new assessed value of your home? Any of you have experience in challenging increases in your assessment before? Any assistance would be appreciated.
I have the basic forms and information on how to do it. But I'm looking to see how others have approached their argument for a decrease in the assessment. So far, I'm not sure we have grounds to challenge it on the basis of current real estate prices. Maybe I can only challenge it on the basis that the house needs a lot of updating. We have an outdated electrical system, a roof in need or repair, etc....
I just can't believe that our house would increase in value by $15,000 in 20 months, a little less than two years.
I have the basic forms and information on how to do it. But I'm looking to see how others have approached their argument for a decrease in the assessment. So far, I'm not sure we have grounds to challenge it on the basis of current real estate prices. Maybe I can only challenge it on the basis that the house needs a lot of updating. We have an outdated electrical system, a roof in need or repair, etc....
I just can't believe that our house would increase in value by $15,000 in 20 months, a little less than two years.
heidi - 12/03/08 21:36
new paint jobs make a big difference.
new paint jobs make a big difference.
gardenmama - 12/03/08 19:25
You can take pictures if you have older electric - like fuses instead of breakers, also, if you need work in the bathroom, if the basement leaks, if you have an older furnace/water heater, etc. There are other things you can compare also - do you have no garage/driveway when maybe others do; or is yours a one-car when others have a two-car? Older windows? Yard size... You just updated the kitchen so you don’t want them to see that. You might want to be a little careful about the roof business because you don't want the city to send out the inspectors who will then cite you for a roof in disrepair, which then might require you to get it fixed sooner than you had planned. They would expect you to compare prices to other houses that are comparable in size that have sold on your street or very nearby. If you don’t do any price comparison they will assume their assessment is on target. You could also hire someone to do an independent assessment but it usually costs around $250 and, therefore, might not be worth it in the short run but perhaps could be over time.
You can take pictures if you have older electric - like fuses instead of breakers, also, if you need work in the bathroom, if the basement leaks, if you have an older furnace/water heater, etc. There are other things you can compare also - do you have no garage/driveway when maybe others do; or is yours a one-car when others have a two-car? Older windows? Yard size... You just updated the kitchen so you don’t want them to see that. You might want to be a little careful about the roof business because you don't want the city to send out the inspectors who will then cite you for a roof in disrepair, which then might require you to get it fixed sooner than you had planned. They would expect you to compare prices to other houses that are comparable in size that have sold on your street or very nearby. If you don’t do any price comparison they will assume their assessment is on target. You could also hire someone to do an independent assessment but it usually costs around $250 and, therefore, might not be worth it in the short run but perhaps could be over time.
james - 12/03/08 19:06
For some reason the city of Buffalo has skyrocketing home values when they assess it.
For some reason the city of Buffalo has skyrocketing home values when they assess it.
matthew - 12/03/08 15:50
Ours went up $50,000! Check out (e:pmrk)'s journal.
We might be sending a letter as well, if we do I'll let you know our details. I think the cut off date for filing a complaint is December 31st.
Ours went up $50,000! Check out (e:pmrk)'s journal.
We might be sending a letter as well, if we do I'll let you know our details. I think the cut off date for filing a complaint is December 31st.
jenks - 12/03/08 15:43
See two posts down in the recent posts list. ;)
See two posts down in the recent posts list. ;)
11/29/2008 10:17 #46881
HomeI enjoyed my drive to Illinois.
I spent time over beer with my good high school friends.
I've had my Steak n Shake fix.
I'm gonna go to Avantis to grab some food for the drive home.
I had fun with my family, but I also endured my family.
And now I'm ready to go home to Buffalo.
I spent time over beer with my good high school friends.
I've had my Steak n Shake fix.
I'm gonna go to Avantis to grab some food for the drive home.
I had fun with my family, but I also endured my family.
And now I'm ready to go home to Buffalo.
james - 11/29/08 16:57
"I had fun with my family, but I also endured my family.
And now I'm ready to go home to Buffalo."
amen.
"I had fun with my family, but I also endured my family.
And now I'm ready to go home to Buffalo."
amen.
11/26/2008 09:33 #46845
Thanksgiving in IllinoisWe're driving to Illinois for Thanksgiving.
This afternoon we're driving to Indianapolis and tomorrow morning we'll be up at the crack of dawn to finish the trip to Illinois.
Flying to my hometown would be more convenient and take less time, but more expense and less fun.
We'll be driving out of western New York and into the hills of Ohio. Then come the flat farmlands of Indiana and that's my first signal that we're almost home. The vast farmland stretching out as far as I can see is warm and comfortable. At this point, I put down my book I'm reading and I just watch the landscape and wide open sky go by.
In Indiana, we stop at the Amish cheese store. A little shack. With its own exit off the interstate. Every cheese imaginable. All made by the Amish. Incredibly good. We buy all the favorite cheeses for ourselves and my family.
We cross the state and eventually come to the Indiana Visitor Center at the Indiana-Illinois border. I feel nostalgic and happy when we cross the state line. We'll drive by small towns where I traveled for track meets and basketball games and marching band competitions. A nice way to spend a childhood.
We'll spend a few days in my childhood home. It feels comfortable, but new at the same time. After my time there, I'll remember why I needed to leave it behind. But I'm happy that it's a warm place to return.
This afternoon we're driving to Indianapolis and tomorrow morning we'll be up at the crack of dawn to finish the trip to Illinois.
Flying to my hometown would be more convenient and take less time, but more expense and less fun.
We'll be driving out of western New York and into the hills of Ohio. Then come the flat farmlands of Indiana and that's my first signal that we're almost home. The vast farmland stretching out as far as I can see is warm and comfortable. At this point, I put down my book I'm reading and I just watch the landscape and wide open sky go by.
In Indiana, we stop at the Amish cheese store. A little shack. With its own exit off the interstate. Every cheese imaginable. All made by the Amish. Incredibly good. We buy all the favorite cheeses for ourselves and my family.
We cross the state and eventually come to the Indiana Visitor Center at the Indiana-Illinois border. I feel nostalgic and happy when we cross the state line. We'll drive by small towns where I traveled for track meets and basketball games and marching band competitions. A nice way to spend a childhood.
We'll spend a few days in my childhood home. It feels comfortable, but new at the same time. After my time there, I'll remember why I needed to leave it behind. But I'm happy that it's a warm place to return.
mrmike - 11/26/08 10:41
I've made a similar drive a few times. Best part is since the geography is so flat you can almost see Illinois while you are still in Ohio. Hope it's a blast and you can enjoy that anticipatory feeling of "almost there" in the final few minutes of the journey.
Drive safe
I've made a similar drive a few times. Best part is since the geography is so flat you can almost see Illinois while you are still in Ohio. Hope it's a blast and you can enjoy that anticipatory feeling of "almost there" in the final few minutes of the journey.
Drive safe
drew - 11/26/08 10:17
I can't believe I forgot about the Amish cheese shop! Now I can't wait to go home!
We are going to have to drive fast, in case they close at night (which they probably do.)
Maybe we should bring a crow bar in case we have to break in.
I know some of you may be shocked but:
1. this is really good cheese.
2. they are Amish. It's not like they will shoot us. They won't even hit us.
I can't believe I forgot about the Amish cheese shop! Now I can't wait to go home!
We are going to have to drive fast, in case they close at night (which they probably do.)
Maybe we should bring a crow bar in case we have to break in.
I know some of you may be shocked but:
1. this is really good cheese.
2. they are Amish. It's not like they will shoot us. They won't even hit us.
jenks - 11/26/08 10:14
ooooh I love that part of the trip home when you're finally almost there... You get in total autopilot mode and could make it with your eyes closed.
i drove home once and surprised my parents- The anticipation for the last ten miles or so was so awesome. [until i got a *^&^% speeding ticket! I made it 500 miles, and then 3 miles from my house I get pulled over??]
I love going home. It's too bad I never get to. :(
ooooh I love that part of the trip home when you're finally almost there... You get in total autopilot mode and could make it with your eyes closed.
i drove home once and surprised my parents- The anticipation for the last ten miles or so was so awesome. [until i got a *^&^% speeding ticket! I made it 500 miles, and then 3 miles from my house I get pulled over??]
I love going home. It's too bad I never get to. :(
lauren - 11/26/08 10:09
oh janelle...this reminds me so much of my trips "home" to my birthplace...we would travel through Columbus, then to St. Louis...the mini arch that welcomes you to Missouri was always the "we're almost there" sign...flat flat flat for as far as the eye can see. Missouri (miz-er-ah) was the last stretch before reaching Oklahoma...I haven't been back there since mid-high school but i always feel a strange connection to that place, even though i only lived there for the first two years of my life.
oh and...totally jealous of your cheese store. I <3 cheese. happy thanksgiving!
oh janelle...this reminds me so much of my trips "home" to my birthplace...we would travel through Columbus, then to St. Louis...the mini arch that welcomes you to Missouri was always the "we're almost there" sign...flat flat flat for as far as the eye can see. Missouri (miz-er-ah) was the last stretch before reaching Oklahoma...I haven't been back there since mid-high school but i always feel a strange connection to that place, even though i only lived there for the first two years of my life.
oh and...totally jealous of your cheese store. I <3 cheese. happy thanksgiving!
leetee - 11/26/08 09:45
I hope you have a lovely time! :o)
I hope you have a lovely time! :o)
tinypliny - 11/26/08 09:39
I want to go home to all the pollution! :D
I want to go home to all the pollution! :D
11/09/2008 18:08 #46616
OopsI just set my hair on fire. Yikes! Singed hair smells yucky.
mike - 11/10/08 23:03
ahh singed hair is the worst. I singed my friends hair in technology class in middle school. It smelled so bad!
ahh singed hair is the worst. I singed my friends hair in technology class in middle school. It smelled so bad!
metalpeter - 11/10/08 18:04
I did that once cooking and didn't even know I singed it. When I fried chicken I would put the chicken in then and oil then heat it up. Well this time I heated up the oil and then tossed in the frozen chicken and flames shot right stright up out of the the pan. I turned the heat off and away went the fire later I noticed I burnt some Hair, I never did that again. Maybe the chicken wasn't frozen maybe it was covered in flower and seasoning I can't remember but it was scary, glad you are ok.
I did that once cooking and didn't even know I singed it. When I fried chicken I would put the chicken in then and oil then heat it up. Well this time I heated up the oil and then tossed in the frozen chicken and flames shot right stright up out of the the pan. I turned the heat off and away went the fire later I noticed I burnt some Hair, I never did that again. Maybe the chicken wasn't frozen maybe it was covered in flower and seasoning I can't remember but it was scary, glad you are ok.
mrdeadlier - 11/10/08 11:07
Typing at the computer and playing with fire are not apparently two great tastes that taste great together.
Typing at the computer and playing with fire are not apparently two great tastes that taste great together.
tinypliny - 11/09/08 18:59
Yikes. I hate singed hair smell as well. I once singed both my eyebrows blowing a glass vase. The upshot of that was everyone called me Mona Lisa for a couple months afterwards.
Yikes. I hate singed hair smell as well. I once singed both my eyebrows blowing a glass vase. The upshot of that was everyone called me Mona Lisa for a couple months afterwards.
paul - 11/09/08 18:33
Hope it wasn't too bad!
Hope it wasn't too bad!
Definitely use the pix you took to go with your other stuff if you challenge your assessment - bathrooms are expensive.
I really don't understand of how it can be hit or miss. Is it not measurable where the bathtub is? Its not like the bathtub pipes could be anywhere but behind the bathtub.
To be fair, what he quoted us is the same as someone else quoted us. So it's the going rate it seems. And I suppose he's a plumber not a contractor. It just didn't occur to me that we would have to repair the wall.
Why don't you say their name. SOunds crappy.
If you assess your home the way the city of Buffalo does that should drop your value by at least 20k