These are prunes.
If they were as good as this girl makes them seem, every kid in America would devour them. Truth be told, to me they seem like they have a consistency similar to the abdomen of a tarantula.
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11/20/2008 16:38 #46777
This picture is a fraud11/14/2008 14:14 #46688
These people are cluelessregarding social compliance and Uncle Wally.
You have no idea how badly I could eviscerate this article if I were allowed. Social compliance audits on behalf of W-M have been going on all over the world for at least 5 years.
I wish I could get into it but I can't. These outside observers are so ignorant and clueless regarding this topic that I'm sure they are unaware of how off the mark they really are. This is why advocacy groups annoy me at times.
You have no idea how badly I could eviscerate this article if I were allowed. Social compliance audits on behalf of W-M have been going on all over the world for at least 5 years.
I wish I could get into it but I can't. These outside observers are so ignorant and clueless regarding this topic that I'm sure they are unaware of how off the mark they really are. This is why advocacy groups annoy me at times.
joshua - 11/14/08 15:25
I'm legally bound so I can't. I knew you'd post!
You're right that I'm being a tease... I knew it as soon as I hit "publish" that I was leaving out a ton. Without getting into it too much I can say that this is sort of like getting an invitation to something that is brand new, only to find out that it isn't so new.
When they are talking about 3rd parties auditing their suppliers who do suppose they are talking about?
Like I've said to you before - advocacy groups have their place but more often than not they are lacking information and driven by ideology. In other words, from our experience they usually have preconceived notions but without them, the industry I'm in wouldn't exist.
China is a bit of a special case... corruption is an enormous problem and I can tell you that the single biggest problem in China's factories right now is the existence of double books. Next time I see you I promise I won't be so elusive with my explanations... ok? :)
I'm legally bound so I can't. I knew you'd post!
You're right that I'm being a tease... I knew it as soon as I hit "publish" that I was leaving out a ton. Without getting into it too much I can say that this is sort of like getting an invitation to something that is brand new, only to find out that it isn't so new.
When they are talking about 3rd parties auditing their suppliers who do suppose they are talking about?
Like I've said to you before - advocacy groups have their place but more often than not they are lacking information and driven by ideology. In other words, from our experience they usually have preconceived notions but without them, the industry I'm in wouldn't exist.
China is a bit of a special case... corruption is an enormous problem and I can tell you that the single biggest problem in China's factories right now is the existence of double books. Next time I see you I promise I won't be so elusive with my explanations... ok? :)
janelle - 11/14/08 14:54
Joshua, you're being a tease. I read the article and I see no red flags, because I don't have your insiders perspective. So why post if you're not going to explain more??
So now I'm horribly curious as to why these outside observers are ignorant and clueless.
And to what extent might you be considered an outsider as well, so how far do I trust your opinion?
In my field, outside observers have been the impetus for a lot of change in how DD people are changed (i.e. Geraldo and Willowbrook). And I think in general outside observers and advocates are an important part of social tension that allows for resolution of social issues.
I'm very interested in the work you do, so I hope you'll share a little more.
Joshua, you're being a tease. I read the article and I see no red flags, because I don't have your insiders perspective. So why post if you're not going to explain more??
So now I'm horribly curious as to why these outside observers are ignorant and clueless.
And to what extent might you be considered an outsider as well, so how far do I trust your opinion?
In my field, outside observers have been the impetus for a lot of change in how DD people are changed (i.e. Geraldo and Willowbrook). And I think in general outside observers and advocates are an important part of social tension that allows for resolution of social issues.
I'm very interested in the work you do, so I hope you'll share a little more.
11/13/2008 09:23 #46671
Don't Go Here, WoW Players...11/07/2008 13:06 #46587
Election AftermathI think I've been pretty even keeled. The country ain't blowing up like a lot of people believe. I want the best for the country and will grant Obama six months or so before I get critical (with the possible exception of his cabinet - Rahm getting picked to be his right hand man is a bad sign). The thing about Obama that people who didn't vote for him need to understand is that he's a decent man. You might not agree with him but you can trust beyond doubt that he's pragmatic and a good man. I am willing to put some confidence in Obama and give him a shot, and in my opinion so should everyone else.
Americans don't and shouldn't care about world opinion when selecting their candidates - we are a sovereign nation. However, nobody should short change or denigrate the opinions of the world. We've lived through eight years where GWB was granted the good will of planet earth, particularly after 9/11, and shortly squandered it. Look, the world *wants* to have confidence in and follow the United States. On the other hand, they don't want to feel marginalized and shut out. We have plenty of admirable and not so admirable qualities, but in the end we are the lone superpower for the time being and we have to be proper stewards. I think all the world is asking of us is to be a decent, fair and just nation. The rhetorical flourishes in Europe regarding Barack Obama have been fascinating. They seem to see it as no less than a rebirth, a recreation, a correction of one of our original sins. I sat and stopped after he tipped 270, and all I wanted to do was listen to what he had to say. Really, for a second I felt like the world stopped... it was time to soak it in a bit and realize that once again in America we've flipped the script. It was a historic and momentous occasion - I only regret that I didn't have the foresight to run out and get a paper, like we did when 9/11 happened.
However, I've been entertained with some (presumably) good-natured ribbing on my MySpace page. I'm not sure if he's being a dick or not, honestly. One of my brother's former co-workers is in Lazlo Hollyfeld, and after the election he drunkenly posted some pictures on my page, which I have to admit entertained me. Not to be outdone though, I bombarded him with the following -
He posted the shittiest little Obama logo - I'd have kept it on my page if it wasn't so small. Afterwords he posted a picture of GWB kissing Cindy McCain at a podium, while John watched. Now, I could go the famous Al Gore/Tipper route on this one - that was the single most uncomfortable embrace by a politician and his wife in American history. He doesn't want to bring a knife to a gun fight - I've got some shocking GWB pictures that are the de facto coup de grace.
Americans don't and shouldn't care about world opinion when selecting their candidates - we are a sovereign nation. However, nobody should short change or denigrate the opinions of the world. We've lived through eight years where GWB was granted the good will of planet earth, particularly after 9/11, and shortly squandered it. Look, the world *wants* to have confidence in and follow the United States. On the other hand, they don't want to feel marginalized and shut out. We have plenty of admirable and not so admirable qualities, but in the end we are the lone superpower for the time being and we have to be proper stewards. I think all the world is asking of us is to be a decent, fair and just nation. The rhetorical flourishes in Europe regarding Barack Obama have been fascinating. They seem to see it as no less than a rebirth, a recreation, a correction of one of our original sins. I sat and stopped after he tipped 270, and all I wanted to do was listen to what he had to say. Really, for a second I felt like the world stopped... it was time to soak it in a bit and realize that once again in America we've flipped the script. It was a historic and momentous occasion - I only regret that I didn't have the foresight to run out and get a paper, like we did when 9/11 happened.
However, I've been entertained with some (presumably) good-natured ribbing on my MySpace page. I'm not sure if he's being a dick or not, honestly. One of my brother's former co-workers is in Lazlo Hollyfeld, and after the election he drunkenly posted some pictures on my page, which I have to admit entertained me. Not to be outdone though, I bombarded him with the following -
He posted the shittiest little Obama logo - I'd have kept it on my page if it wasn't so small. Afterwords he posted a picture of GWB kissing Cindy McCain at a podium, while John watched. Now, I could go the famous Al Gore/Tipper route on this one - that was the single most uncomfortable embrace by a politician and his wife in American history. He doesn't want to bring a knife to a gun fight - I've got some shocking GWB pictures that are the de facto coup de grace.
tinypliny - 11/14/08 08:38
I was following your argument till this came up: What does this mean - Rank 128 in liberal voting?
The lesser the number the more liberal/left you are? What would be considered as a "non-partisan" balanced score-range in this scale?
I was following your argument till this came up: What does this mean - Rank 128 in liberal voting?
The lesser the number the more liberal/left you are? What would be considered as a "non-partisan" balanced score-range in this scale?
joshua - 11/14/08 03:59
(e:tiny) - Rahm is one of the most staunch partisans in Washington at a time where our new President is suggesting that his Administration would be post-partisan. On the other hand though, I can see his utility to Obama. He's going to have every Demo in Congress up his rear and he needs someone on his side with sharp elbows. Besides that stuff though, I'll give Rahm some credit. To be fair he's a brilliant, brilliant guy. Forget the political connotations for a sec - center left, whatever. Lefties are going into his Administration. I think the contention is exactly how far left the people he has in mind will be. Rahm ranks 128 in terms of liberal voting record in Congress -
(e:imk) - What the fuck are you getting at? I'm offended by your idiotic question. I read your rant - I think you have more hangups regarding the situation than a staggeringly large percentage of Americans do. Are you having a bad week or something?
(e:tiny) - Rahm is one of the most staunch partisans in Washington at a time where our new President is suggesting that his Administration would be post-partisan. On the other hand though, I can see his utility to Obama. He's going to have every Demo in Congress up his rear and he needs someone on his side with sharp elbows. Besides that stuff though, I'll give Rahm some credit. To be fair he's a brilliant, brilliant guy. Forget the political connotations for a sec - center left, whatever. Lefties are going into his Administration. I think the contention is exactly how far left the people he has in mind will be. Rahm ranks 128 in terms of liberal voting record in Congress -
(e:imk) - What the fuck are you getting at? I'm offended by your idiotic question. I read your rant - I think you have more hangups regarding the situation than a staggeringly large percentage of Americans do. Are you having a bad week or something?
imk2 - 11/13/08 18:30
ditto to tiny's question and....
"Really, for a second I felt like the world stopped... it was time to soak it in a bit and realize that once again in America we've flipped the script. It was a historic and momentous occasion..."
would you have felt the same if mccain won? and if not, then why would you vote for him? surely it's not just because it's the first black guy in office that is was so historic, right?
plus...refer to my post to hear my rant on calling obama black. (i'll have it up in a bit)
ditto to tiny's question and....
"Really, for a second I felt like the world stopped... it was time to soak it in a bit and realize that once again in America we've flipped the script. It was a historic and momentous occasion..."
would you have felt the same if mccain won? and if not, then why would you vote for him? surely it's not just because it's the first black guy in office that is was so historic, right?
plus...refer to my post to hear my rant on calling obama black. (i'll have it up in a bit)
tinypliny - 11/07/08 23:23
Why is "Rahm getting picked to be his right hand man is a bad sign"?
Is it because he is too centre of left and was responsible for most of dem vote on the $700bn bailout?
Why is "Rahm getting picked to be his right hand man is a bad sign"?
Is it because he is too centre of left and was responsible for most of dem vote on the $700bn bailout?
11/04/2008 23:06 #46535
Congratulations to Barack ObamaAll partisanship aside, it is an absolutely amazing achievement. We're witnessing the popular election of the first African-American as the President of the United States and it is something I was hopeful we'd see in our lifetimes but was never sure about. This is America at its grandest.
mrmike - 11/05/08 11:33
I think this is a tremendous first step. I agree with Jenks and Jason. It's a great thing and a terrific sign of progress, but when the hoopla dies down, there is a crapload of work to be done. He has a breaktaking tough road ahead. McCain gave the type of speech that made me remember why I liked him in the first place. Here's hoping both are committed to the laudable words of last night.
I think this is a tremendous first step. I agree with Jenks and Jason. It's a great thing and a terrific sign of progress, but when the hoopla dies down, there is a crapload of work to be done. He has a breaktaking tough road ahead. McCain gave the type of speech that made me remember why I liked him in the first place. Here's hoping both are committed to the laudable words of last night.
jenks - 11/05/08 09:16
Me too.
I'm really proud of the US for voting beyond color. That's huge.
But that isn't enough in and of itself- I just hope things go well.
Me too.
I'm really proud of the US for voting beyond color. That's huge.
But that isn't enough in and of itself- I just hope things go well.
hodown - 11/05/08 09:09
I agree with Josh that this is an amazing achievement for America. However, like Jason I'm a bit skeptical. The real battle lies ahead to see if he really can change anything.
I agree with Josh that this is an amazing achievement for America. However, like Jason I'm a bit skeptical. The real battle lies ahead to see if he really can change anything.
drew - 11/05/08 08:33
McCain did a great job of setting the tone--gracious in defeat. I wouldn't be surprised if Bush followed suit today.
McCain did a great job of setting the tone--gracious in defeat. I wouldn't be surprised if Bush followed suit today.
jason - 11/05/08 08:25
I know you're being gracious here, which I'm proud of, but this isn't a transformative event for America as of yet. Frankly, too many people still have flimsy respect for the office. This election season has proven beyond all question that Americans are still slanderous, hateful little bastards and Obama being President won't fix that. I want to believe we can be more unified too, but that requires both sides to cool it. Does anyone think that is going to happen?
I know you're being gracious here, which I'm proud of, but this isn't a transformative event for America as of yet. Frankly, too many people still have flimsy respect for the office. This election season has proven beyond all question that Americans are still slanderous, hateful little bastards and Obama being President won't fix that. I want to believe we can be more unified too, but that requires both sides to cool it. Does anyone think that is going to happen?
hahaha!
(e:Joshua) thanks. In terms of the getting dumping on the chest it isn't my thing. I kinda took some of that Idea from a spoof movie, might be "not another teen movie".
mmm I like prunes too. i need to get me some. only thing i don't like is reaching my hand in the bag to get them. maybe i need to put them in a bowl like her.
She should have a comment bubble above her head that reads - "I just have to smile, right? I don't really have to eat this shit, do I?"
Reminds of that time we went on a week-long hiking trip in the Algonquin Park (up in Canada). One of my buddies took a pound of prunes, planning on eating them all week long.
Well, after the first day we realized that our packs were too heavy, and decided to get rid of extra stuff. But he liked the prunes, and didn't want to throw them away. So he ate a good number of them.
Needless to say, the hiking next day was slow, with repeated stops requested by him while he ran off into the bushes.... :-D
This photo is a fraud.
I happen to love prunes like Drew and Tiny. But look at that color scheme? Death by beige. Beige is the color of a long suburban death that starts with vinyl siding, progresses to inflatable holiday lawn ornaments, and ends with a prescription pain killer addiction. Beige is a fake color. And so even her smile is beige. She knows she is rotting inside, and she fills the void with insoluble fiber.
I can't stand them. Growing up, Grandma always had them around, exactly because she wanted to poop more. The cans seemed antique... Lord knows how old those prunes actually were. Prunes and yogurt are the only two foods that made me throw up when I first tried them.
(e:peter) - you've left the greatest comment anyone has ever left on my journal. My God! Haha. You keep it real, man.
She Smiles because she likes prunes and she just took a huge dumb that shot out of her and almost felt orgasmic and almost broke the toilet. Later her hot sexy self will get asked to do the same on some guys chest, HA. I love raisins but not prunes, yuck.
I like prunes, too. I would eat them all the time if it were not for the, ahem, side effects.
I happen to <3 prunes. So there.