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03/11/2008 15:17 #43623
Hey guys - my iPod will look like me nowHa!
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03/09/2008 19:21 #43595
Chinese death camp for cats...I wish I were kidding - congratulations to the people that run the Olympics for being a bunch of fucking assholes. I love people who reward historically proven brutality against their own people and now apparently animals.
I'm not gonna lie - this is disturbing.
Josh
I'm not gonna lie - this is disturbing.
Josh
megan - 03/10/08 21:09
"Paranoia is so intense that six stray cats -including two pregnant females - were beaten to death with sticks by teachers at a Beijing kindergarten, who feared they might pass illnesses to the children."
...wow I bet that was memorable for the kids. That'll teach them to listen to their teacher.
"Paranoia is so intense that six stray cats -including two pregnant females - were beaten to death with sticks by teachers at a Beijing kindergarten, who feared they might pass illnesses to the children."
...wow I bet that was memorable for the kids. That'll teach them to listen to their teacher.
metalpeter - 03/10/08 17:47
First of all Paul does make a great point that we in the USA do the same thing sort of. We round up animals and give them 3 weeks and if they don't get picked up they are killed.
But there is a difference we don't have the government telling us how bad these animals are and how they will kill our kids. We also don't do that to peoples pets. The government is getting people to get rid of there pets and why? Well for the same reason ever place that gets an olympics does something like this. They Want to clean up the city for the people who are coming to the country for the first time. Granted you want your city to be at its best but it should be how it really is. If I go to China I want to see the games but I want to see the real china and maybe go find some adult fun someplace to, I don't want everything all cleaned up an AMericanised or europised. I remember something like this made the news with the sydney games, it had something to do with aborginal people being moved. I understand you don't want SARS to break out, but I have never seen wild chinesse cats that roam the streets and it would be cool to see them.
First of all Paul does make a great point that we in the USA do the same thing sort of. We round up animals and give them 3 weeks and if they don't get picked up they are killed.
But there is a difference we don't have the government telling us how bad these animals are and how they will kill our kids. We also don't do that to peoples pets. The government is getting people to get rid of there pets and why? Well for the same reason ever place that gets an olympics does something like this. They Want to clean up the city for the people who are coming to the country for the first time. Granted you want your city to be at its best but it should be how it really is. If I go to China I want to see the games but I want to see the real china and maybe go find some adult fun someplace to, I don't want everything all cleaned up an AMericanised or europised. I remember something like this made the news with the sydney games, it had something to do with aborginal people being moved. I understand you don't want SARS to break out, but I have never seen wild chinesse cats that roam the streets and it would be cool to see them.
james - 03/09/08 22:07
self-aware or not, animals definitely suffer if you make them.
self-aware or not, animals definitely suffer if you make them.
paul - 03/09/08 20:54
Seriously, pigs definitely are as smart as dogs. Even my pet tortoise comes to me when I call it because he knows when I call there is food. Same with mice?
Seriously, pigs definitely are as smart as dogs. Even my pet tortoise comes to me when I call it because he knows when I call there is food. Same with mice?
tiburon1724 - 03/09/08 20:51
I hear what you're saying paul and can't say I totally disagree, but cats and dogs are self-aware while I don't feel the animals we eat here are..if I call my dog he'll come to me but a chicken probably not so much!
I hear what you're saying paul and can't say I totally disagree, but cats and dogs are self-aware while I don't feel the animals we eat here are..if I call my dog he'll come to me but a chicken probably not so much!
paul - 03/09/08 20:33
Wow, my hatred for cats is so great I really don't care.
You realize in America we take all the stray cats that get brought to the pound and kill them too. Same with the animal control people, they round up and kill the animals or sell them to industry for animal testing.
I could never understand why some animals were treated so differently than others and why it outrages people so much when its a cat or a dog but not when its a chicken or a veal calf. You also have to consider that in many parts of china, cats are food animals
Barely anyone one cares how chickens are treated to make our eggs, or milk cows are treated not to mention all the animals that are outright killed for their meat or as pests such as rats.
Is it any more morally objectionable rounding up and killing these cats, than it is have a legally sanctioned animal testing policy in America.
I would much rather be beaten to death than be subjected to chemical tests.
I just don't see it as that outrageous when you look at in the the general sense of how humans treat animals.
Wow, my hatred for cats is so great I really don't care.
You realize in America we take all the stray cats that get brought to the pound and kill them too. Same with the animal control people, they round up and kill the animals or sell them to industry for animal testing.
I could never understand why some animals were treated so differently than others and why it outrages people so much when its a cat or a dog but not when its a chicken or a veal calf. You also have to consider that in many parts of china, cats are food animals
Barely anyone one cares how chickens are treated to make our eggs, or milk cows are treated not to mention all the animals that are outright killed for their meat or as pests such as rats.
Is it any more morally objectionable rounding up and killing these cats, than it is have a legally sanctioned animal testing policy in America.
I would much rather be beaten to death than be subjected to chemical tests.
I just don't see it as that outrageous when you look at in the the general sense of how humans treat animals.
jenks - 03/09/08 20:01
yeah... I don't really like cats- but that's awful.
Reminds me of this one: :::link:::
"Indian authorities to poison 100,000 stray dogs
Slaughter aimed at combating rabies; activists decry plan"
yeah... I don't really like cats- but that's awful.
Reminds me of this one: :::link:::
"Indian authorities to poison 100,000 stray dogs
Slaughter aimed at combating rabies; activists decry plan"
james - 03/09/08 19:29
If only cats had a one child policy they wouldn't have this problem.
If only cats had a one child policy they wouldn't have this problem.
02/29/2008 16:50 #43510
Communist ParadiseViva la revolucion!
Watch the video too.
You won't be hearing about any of this on Radio Havana Cuba, by the way.
Josh
EDIT: Interesting story about Obama's leftward-leaning economic policies and how even people sympathetic to him are beginning to worry - - I told you people he is naive.
Watch the video too.
You won't be hearing about any of this on Radio Havana Cuba, by the way.
Josh
EDIT: Interesting story about Obama's leftward-leaning economic policies and how even people sympathetic to him are beginning to worry -
- I told you people he is naive.02/27/2008 18:49 #43486
William F. Buckley, Jr.1925 - 2008
Today is a sadder day in American life if you are into political and civic discourse. William F. Buckley, Jr. is one of the people that influenced my interest in politics. For many years he hosted a debate program on PBS called Firing Line, which was the best debate show on any network before or since. He routinely hosted legends of political, cultural, intellectual, political and academic persuasions - the roster of his past guests is without peer and is pretty impressive.
He was the only conservative in American public life for many, many years. He is generally credited with laying the groundwork for the modern conservative movement, which is something the evangelical conservatives have utterly, utterly bastardized and twisted around into an embarrassing mishmash of bigotry, hypocrisy and hubris. Buckley was famous for denouncing the John Birch Society and he was criticized by conservatives for doing so. If he's the grand poobah of the conservative movement, if you ask me which side I'd pick in a debate I'll take the guy who was the grand poobah of it all. He and Barry Goldwater were virtually identical in terms of political and philosophical outlook, although in Goldwater's case what he lacked in eloquence he made up for in humor.
Buckley was a Connecticut WASP, Yale educated and spoke with an aristocratic patois that you'd certainly pin to his upbringing... and you wouldn't necessarily be wrong. What people do not know is that English was Buckley's third language that he had learned by the age of 7. He had spoken Spanish and French prior to that, having lived in Mexico and France with his parents at an early age. As a result, his English accent was idiosyncratic and sounded somewhere between northeastern WASP and English. During his life he routinely described himself as a libertarian or a conservative, which in the absolutely purest academic sense of conservatism that he subscribed to, could ultimately be interchangeable terms although in today's society what it means to be a libertarian is defined a hundred different ways. When Bill Buckley was around, conservatism and the church were not intertwined as it is now.
Hands down - the best debater to ever have appeared on television. He was an intimidating person to debate against because of his deep intellect, verbosity, steely gaze and sometimes uncomfortable line of questioning. The Hoover Institution at Stanford University has archived his past television shows; links to 5-minute clips from various shows have been provided. Many of the shows topics are provocative and at least one should pique your interest. Click here -
In London they now charge $15 or so if you want to drive a car into the city center. A lot of people think its a great idea. Guess who proposed that 43 years ago when he ran for mayor of New York? He also proposed installing bike lanes. Bloomberg has been suggesting ideas like this for New York these days and people think he's a genius. Buckley finished third in that race.
The main reason why we are poorer for his passing today is because he was the last remaining credible debater/pundit who insisted on intelligent, polite, civil public discourse in our society (with the possible exception of the Gore Vidal debacle). The days where we could simply talk to each other seem so long gone when you watch Firing Line. We don't talk to each other like this any more. Buckley showed that it was good, even great, to argue with each other if we're going to thoughtfully consider the issues in our society. What makes him different from most is that he maintained great personal friendships with people he had vehement philosophical differences with. Its an incredibly telling thing, when you are greatly loved by people who otherwise would be considered an "enemy."
I don't know if we'll ever have people like this anymore. Its a shame because our country needs more people with the same outlook on how to proceed with civic discourse as he had. I hope its our generation that returns to this way of thinking and talking. And why can't we be funny about it? Buckley was interviewed in Playboy in the late 60's/early 70's and people wondered why he agreed to appear in a bawdy publication such as that. His response was classic - "to communicate my views to my son!"
Today is a sadder day in American life if you are into political and civic discourse. William F. Buckley, Jr. is one of the people that influenced my interest in politics. For many years he hosted a debate program on PBS called Firing Line, which was the best debate show on any network before or since. He routinely hosted legends of political, cultural, intellectual, political and academic persuasions - the roster of his past guests is without peer and is pretty impressive.
He was the only conservative in American public life for many, many years. He is generally credited with laying the groundwork for the modern conservative movement, which is something the evangelical conservatives have utterly, utterly bastardized and twisted around into an embarrassing mishmash of bigotry, hypocrisy and hubris. Buckley was famous for denouncing the John Birch Society and he was criticized by conservatives for doing so. If he's the grand poobah of the conservative movement, if you ask me which side I'd pick in a debate I'll take the guy who was the grand poobah of it all. He and Barry Goldwater were virtually identical in terms of political and philosophical outlook, although in Goldwater's case what he lacked in eloquence he made up for in humor.
Buckley was a Connecticut WASP, Yale educated and spoke with an aristocratic patois that you'd certainly pin to his upbringing... and you wouldn't necessarily be wrong. What people do not know is that English was Buckley's third language that he had learned by the age of 7. He had spoken Spanish and French prior to that, having lived in Mexico and France with his parents at an early age. As a result, his English accent was idiosyncratic and sounded somewhere between northeastern WASP and English. During his life he routinely described himself as a libertarian or a conservative, which in the absolutely purest academic sense of conservatism that he subscribed to, could ultimately be interchangeable terms although in today's society what it means to be a libertarian is defined a hundred different ways. When Bill Buckley was around, conservatism and the church were not intertwined as it is now.
Hands down - the best debater to ever have appeared on television. He was an intimidating person to debate against because of his deep intellect, verbosity, steely gaze and sometimes uncomfortable line of questioning. The Hoover Institution at Stanford University has archived his past television shows; links to 5-minute clips from various shows have been provided. Many of the shows topics are provocative and at least one should pique your interest. Click here -
In London they now charge $15 or so if you want to drive a car into the city center. A lot of people think its a great idea. Guess who proposed that 43 years ago when he ran for mayor of New York? He also proposed installing bike lanes. Bloomberg has been suggesting ideas like this for New York these days and people think he's a genius. Buckley finished third in that race.
The main reason why we are poorer for his passing today is because he was the last remaining credible debater/pundit who insisted on intelligent, polite, civil public discourse in our society (with the possible exception of the Gore Vidal debacle). The days where we could simply talk to each other seem so long gone when you watch Firing Line. We don't talk to each other like this any more. Buckley showed that it was good, even great, to argue with each other if we're going to thoughtfully consider the issues in our society. What makes him different from most is that he maintained great personal friendships with people he had vehement philosophical differences with. Its an incredibly telling thing, when you are greatly loved by people who otherwise would be considered an "enemy."
I don't know if we'll ever have people like this anymore. Its a shame because our country needs more people with the same outlook on how to proceed with civic discourse as he had. I hope its our generation that returns to this way of thinking and talking. And why can't we be funny about it? Buckley was interviewed in Playboy in the late 60's/early 70's and people wondered why he agreed to appear in a bawdy publication such as that. His response was classic - "to communicate my views to my son!"
02/25/2008 11:28 #43453
Obama Ad SpoofI'll give you one guess as to who originally came up with this, but I was surprised to hear this "ad" on KGO 810 San Francicsco last night in the middle of liberal talk host Karel's show.
As for Nader - shrug. I think the liberals hate him despite the fact that he's done more good for the common man in America than they ever will. Like I always say, as a voter if you like to pontificate about how you hate the 2-party system, don't bitch when a third candidate actually enters the race! He will take Democrat votes, but how many remain to be seen. I think I agree with (e:james) in that he will have a limited effect, with the libs having been down this road before and feeling like they are hip to the political game. Then again, another side of me knows all too well that many Democrats feel beholden to vote for the party despite not really liking either Obama or Hillary... this I believe is why Nader entered in the first place. Throw in the independent vote and I could be totally wrong about Nader's effect in the election. He knows he isn't going to win, but he knows that he has a constituency that in his mind should be represented in the vote. Call it "spoiling" if you will but like I always say, if your case to the American people was strong enough to begin with then you wouldn't have had to worry about a Ralph Nader.
As for Nader - shrug. I think the liberals hate him despite the fact that he's done more good for the common man in America than they ever will. Like I always say, as a voter if you like to pontificate about how you hate the 2-party system, don't bitch when a third candidate actually enters the race! He will take Democrat votes, but how many remain to be seen. I think I agree with (e:james) in that he will have a limited effect, with the libs having been down this road before and feeling like they are hip to the political game. Then again, another side of me knows all too well that many Democrats feel beholden to vote for the party despite not really liking either Obama or Hillary... this I believe is why Nader entered in the first place. Throw in the independent vote and I could be totally wrong about Nader's effect in the election. He knows he isn't going to win, but he knows that he has a constituency that in his mind should be represented in the vote. Call it "spoiling" if you will but like I always say, if your case to the American people was strong enough to begin with then you wouldn't have had to worry about a Ralph Nader.
metalpeter - 02/25/08 17:39
Here is my problem with Nader. It isn't that his ideas are bad it that he pulls shit like this. It is ok to be independent or is that Green Party but he is the only guy they have it isn't like he beat anyone out for it. The point could be made that he not Florida lost the Election for gore. He is smart enough to know this. Bill Mahr allways jokes around and I remmeber him back a long time ago told Him not to run when Carey was running. If anything him running will help the republicans and he deep down knows it, but he figures if he brings up topics that neither side brings up as long as that causes them action on that it is a win and that is worth taking a chance at causing the Democrats to lose. I'm all for a Multiple party system but this isn't that, this is him on his own waiting till We know who all the front runners are where were you months ago. Oh I know you wanted to out wait gore in case he decided to run again. I think a real Multi party election would be good. But you have to get rid of the electoral College and do a most votes win thing.
Here is my problem with Nader. It isn't that his ideas are bad it that he pulls shit like this. It is ok to be independent or is that Green Party but he is the only guy they have it isn't like he beat anyone out for it. The point could be made that he not Florida lost the Election for gore. He is smart enough to know this. Bill Mahr allways jokes around and I remmeber him back a long time ago told Him not to run when Carey was running. If anything him running will help the republicans and he deep down knows it, but he figures if he brings up topics that neither side brings up as long as that causes them action on that it is a win and that is worth taking a chance at causing the Democrats to lose. I'm all for a Multiple party system but this isn't that, this is him on his own waiting till We know who all the front runners are where were you months ago. Oh I know you wanted to out wait gore in case he decided to run again. I think a real Multi party election would be good. But you have to get rid of the electoral College and do a most votes win thing.
james - 02/25/08 16:27
Vintage Chesterfields please. The kind before they even had filters.
Vintage Chesterfields please. The kind before they even had filters.
jason - 02/25/08 16:12
Goddamn, James, that is a quality rant. I have to give credit where credit is due. You need a smoke after you got that off? Heheh.
Goddamn, James, that is a quality rant. I have to give credit where credit is due. You need a smoke after you got that off? Heheh.
james - 02/25/08 12:24
Nader entered the race because he is a megalomaniac.
And having a novelty third party candidate is not the same are diverging from the two party system. Here is a man, driven by his own ego, just taking up space. There is no viable third party here, just a mound of horse shit that loves seat belts. Parties are not built from the top down, they are built from the bottom up. So this turd burger should just go advocate for consumers instead of fueling his own heated masturbation fantasies.
well... I feel better letting that out. ^_^
Nader entered the race because he is a megalomaniac.
And having a novelty third party candidate is not the same are diverging from the two party system. Here is a man, driven by his own ego, just taking up space. There is no viable third party here, just a mound of horse shit that loves seat belts. Parties are not built from the top down, they are built from the bottom up. So this turd burger should just go advocate for consumers instead of fueling his own heated masturbation fantasies.
well... I feel better letting that out. ^_^
good choice in tunes, too. :)
ha! cute!
ok, so cute!