Wow! So much resistance against vinegar! That's OK because I too was a vinegar hater. I can prove it
Trust me, vinegar is an acquired smell. Regardless if you don't like the smell or not, the smell doesn't linger at all. People actually put out dishes of vinegar to absorb odors. It works. I have never heard, "yuck, your house smells like vinegar" or "please stop using vinegar in my house I hate the smell." That is because it doesn't stay around more than a half hour. So unless your allergic to the stuff, buy a gallon of it. It cleans, removes stains and odors, softens fabrics (2 or even 4 tablespoons in the rinse cycle will not make your clothes smell of vinegar), removes deposits and is healthy rather than toxic to ingest.
If you have real tile floors, vinegar is by far the best cleaner. Vinegar, as great as it is, should never be used to clean marble.
(e:joshua), try the Method all purpose cleaner found at Wegmans and Target. $2.99, but worth the price.
(e:metalpeter), if you don't clean, than I would be more worried that your house just smells because it is dirty rather than because you used vinegar to clean it...JK!!! ;)
(e:jenks), I would rather work for Method than a vinegar company, that is where the money is!
UPDATE 6/11/07
I forgot to mention that vinegar should be diluted when washing floors. Just put as much or as little as you like in a bucket of hot water. Besides using hands and knees, do your research on finding a nice mop. Don't buy things that will go in landfills in a year or two if you can help it.
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07/10/2007 20:25 #40041
Vinegar07/10/2007 09:03 #40034
Attention grabber07/07/2007 20:47 #39995
Green CleanI have finally realized the absurdity of using toxic chemicals to clean in the hopes that I will be healthier and more germ free. Clean is healthy, but toxins are not, so why would we want to spread them all over our homes and bodies in the hopes to be cleaner? The problem here is brainwashing. These chemical companies have convinced us that we NEED them?!
Maybe you think, well fine, I'm not an environmentalist, so why does this matter to me, but the fact is that it does. These toxic products cause extreme amounts of harm to our bodies the more frequently we are exposed to them. We clean to make our homes safer, not to cause neurological disorders, cancer, respiratory problems, birth defects and infertility by their noxious odors and residues. Somehow these chemical companies have convinced us that if we don't use their product, than we are not safe. Clean is NEVER toxic because it just doesn't make sense.
I don't know everything there is to know about cleaning without damaging chemicals, but I hope to learn from you if you have any tips of your own. I'll provide the basics of what I have learned so far from my own experience cleaning.
Dust is bad. Dust is all the particles in the air we really don't want to be breathing. Dust is the pollutants in the air that settle on everything we have. In Buffalo and surrounding areas, we have a lot of dust and much of it is from chemical factories. To remove the dust safely is easy. Don't use products that contain cancer causing petroleum dissilates, rather us an electromagnetic cleaning cloth. It is a dry cloth that dust is attracted to. They are a prerequisite for a clean home. Instead of throwing them away you keep them and wash them with your regular laundry. You can clean the dust away from virtually anything with a smooth finish. I use the cloth to clean televisions, computers, glass, pictures and frames, furniture, stereo equipment etc. They really can hold a lot of dust before needing to be washed.
Glass cleaners should not contain ammonia which is listed by the EPA's Community Right-to-Know list as a toxic chemical. A good alternative is vinegar. Even Windex, who makes the noxious blue version that contains ammonia, offers a clear vinegar alternative, but hey why buy vinegar and water? Make it yourself.
To wash floors, use vinegar. Vinegar is one of the best cleaners around. I thought I hated vinegar and the smell, but now I love it. Most people don't know that it has disinfecting properties without chemicals. Vinegar is especially great with tile. For wood try using the brand Ecover's version of Murphy's oil soap. You can find it at the co-op or Wegmans.
The most important thing to have in cleaning is a good vacuum. Vacuums are a huge source of allergens and molds. You need something that really SUCKS and traps the dirt well. Bag less vacs are the worst! That is what I have because I haven't been able to afford a new one. Every time you have to empty the dirt you breath in everything that accompanies the dust cloud that follows after emptying it. Vacuums should have bags. Unfortunately, most of today's vacuums are the bag less ones. You should vacuum as the last part of cleaning before washing the floors, but this doesn't apply to bathrooms. Bathrooms should be vacuumed before cleaning because you can get all the hairs before they get wet when they are impossible to pick up. You can even vacuum the shower, bath and sink before it gets wet. Don't wash hair down the sink, because that causes blocked drains. Vacuuming gets rid of dirt, dust and mites that can cause allergies and respiratory problems.
The next thing you need is a non-toxic all-purpose cleaner. So far I have found Method, found at Wegmans and Target to be the best. This cleaner works better than every toxic chemical I have used and everything smell better and cleaner. Method is great for cleaning counter tops, sinks, toilets, microwaves and stove tops. I use the grapefruit kind and just love it. Dissolves grease better than toxic alternatives.
To clean inside toilet bowls, just use vinegar. Remember vinegar disinfects and removes deposits.
To clean kitchen sinks, use a baking soda paste. Scrub it around to get rid of food gunk. Finish the sink off by wetting a sponge and pour white vinegar over it. Always use white vinegar. Scrub the wet sponge in the baking soda paste. The fizzling cleaning action from the baking soda and the vinegar is the CLEANEST and also very fun. Not only will the sinks be disinfected and odor free, but this will also keep your drains free from blockage. Preventing blockage means that you won't be tempted to buy chemical drain openers that are far from safe for living organisms. Keep food from being washed down the drain by using your sinks food catchers or buying them if you don't have them. Never pour fats down the drains. I pour fat into old coffee cans and store them in the fridge.
The other product I'm in love with from Method is the eucalyptus and mint soap dissolver and shower stain remover. This stuff is good and works better than their toxic cousins. You spray it on shower tile and wipe with a sponge. To clean tubs and shower floors Bon Ami scouring powder is good. It doesn't have that bleach in it that gets into your lungs every time you pour it out. The stuff works well too, and can also be used to clean sinks as well.
Instead of cleaning with paper towels as my predominate method of cleaning, I switched to these blue cloths that come in a familiar paper towel roll. These cloths leave no lint and can be rinsed again and again. Always work from most clean to least clean. For example, clean the kitchen with one rag, the bathroom sink and then the toilet. When you get to the toilet, throw the rag away, you don't want to spread those germs and bacteria to other surfaces. They never leave lint like ordinary paper towels which can't be rinsed like the blue cloths. Recycled paper towels are a great concept, but unfortunately, they are inferior. Washable, lint free rags would be a better alternative if you didn't want to use the blue coths.
Use products that don't contain bleach to clean. To clean shower stalls and bathtubs use Bon Ami, this cleaner is great at scrubbing away stains, dirt, mildew, odors and bacteria. You don't need toxic chlorine.
On that note, I'm looking for laundry tips. I haven't found an eco-friendly detergent that I can afford. If you know of an economical alternative let me know.
LAUNDRY
In place of ridiculously scented fabric softeners, use just plain white vinegar. About 2 tablespoons in the rinse cycle is perfect. This is better than all of the commercial fabric softeners available. If you want to enhance your detergent, use less of the product, but add Baking Soda to the wash cycle. If you want to add the vinegar to the rinse cycle, just put in the fabric softener dispenser, a Downy ball or just add it manually.
Baking Soda to the wash cycle is so beneficial. It makes brights and whites more vibrant while acting as a fabric softener and odor deodorizer. Your clothes will never be fresher or softer. Baking Soda is so diverse. It absorbs odors. Put in your refrigerator or sprinkle on your carpets in order to trap odors. To test effectiveness, add vinegar and see if it sizzles. Buy big boxes of baking soda, because it is so universal. Don't ever buy little bottles of vinegar, you must have lots of vinegar! Soak things in vinegar, it works better without toxins. Get rid of water deposits by soaking shower heads and sink sprayers in vinegar.
To clean hardwoods, after vacuuming use water and vinegar, or something similar to Murphy's Oil Soap. I use Ecover which has a similar, but is more eco-friendly by using linseed oil as their base. You can get on your hands and knees which is a time tested method or if you have large surfaces try a flat wet mop head that can easily be washed.
I think this is enough for now (If you are still with me), but I'm sure as time goes on I'll have more tips or new and improved ones, or others I forgot to mention. I learned a lot from Deidre Imus who seems way more sheik than her husband.
Toxic=NOT clean
UPDATE 6/11/07
I forgot to mention that vinegar should be diluted when washing floors. Just put as much or as little as you like in a bucket of hot water. Besides using hands and knees, do your research on finding a nice mop. Don't buy things that will go in landfills in a year or two if you can help it.
Maybe you think, well fine, I'm not an environmentalist, so why does this matter to me, but the fact is that it does. These toxic products cause extreme amounts of harm to our bodies the more frequently we are exposed to them. We clean to make our homes safer, not to cause neurological disorders, cancer, respiratory problems, birth defects and infertility by their noxious odors and residues. Somehow these chemical companies have convinced us that if we don't use their product, than we are not safe. Clean is NEVER toxic because it just doesn't make sense.
I don't know everything there is to know about cleaning without damaging chemicals, but I hope to learn from you if you have any tips of your own. I'll provide the basics of what I have learned so far from my own experience cleaning.
Dust is bad. Dust is all the particles in the air we really don't want to be breathing. Dust is the pollutants in the air that settle on everything we have. In Buffalo and surrounding areas, we have a lot of dust and much of it is from chemical factories. To remove the dust safely is easy. Don't use products that contain cancer causing petroleum dissilates, rather us an electromagnetic cleaning cloth. It is a dry cloth that dust is attracted to. They are a prerequisite for a clean home. Instead of throwing them away you keep them and wash them with your regular laundry. You can clean the dust away from virtually anything with a smooth finish. I use the cloth to clean televisions, computers, glass, pictures and frames, furniture, stereo equipment etc. They really can hold a lot of dust before needing to be washed.
Glass cleaners should not contain ammonia which is listed by the EPA's Community Right-to-Know list as a toxic chemical. A good alternative is vinegar. Even Windex, who makes the noxious blue version that contains ammonia, offers a clear vinegar alternative, but hey why buy vinegar and water? Make it yourself.
To wash floors, use vinegar. Vinegar is one of the best cleaners around. I thought I hated vinegar and the smell, but now I love it. Most people don't know that it has disinfecting properties without chemicals. Vinegar is especially great with tile. For wood try using the brand Ecover's version of Murphy's oil soap. You can find it at the co-op or Wegmans.
The most important thing to have in cleaning is a good vacuum. Vacuums are a huge source of allergens and molds. You need something that really SUCKS and traps the dirt well. Bag less vacs are the worst! That is what I have because I haven't been able to afford a new one. Every time you have to empty the dirt you breath in everything that accompanies the dust cloud that follows after emptying it. Vacuums should have bags. Unfortunately, most of today's vacuums are the bag less ones. You should vacuum as the last part of cleaning before washing the floors, but this doesn't apply to bathrooms. Bathrooms should be vacuumed before cleaning because you can get all the hairs before they get wet when they are impossible to pick up. You can even vacuum the shower, bath and sink before it gets wet. Don't wash hair down the sink, because that causes blocked drains. Vacuuming gets rid of dirt, dust and mites that can cause allergies and respiratory problems.
The next thing you need is a non-toxic all-purpose cleaner. So far I have found Method, found at Wegmans and Target to be the best. This cleaner works better than every toxic chemical I have used and everything smell better and cleaner. Method is great for cleaning counter tops, sinks, toilets, microwaves and stove tops. I use the grapefruit kind and just love it. Dissolves grease better than toxic alternatives.
To clean inside toilet bowls, just use vinegar. Remember vinegar disinfects and removes deposits.
To clean kitchen sinks, use a baking soda paste. Scrub it around to get rid of food gunk. Finish the sink off by wetting a sponge and pour white vinegar over it. Always use white vinegar. Scrub the wet sponge in the baking soda paste. The fizzling cleaning action from the baking soda and the vinegar is the CLEANEST and also very fun. Not only will the sinks be disinfected and odor free, but this will also keep your drains free from blockage. Preventing blockage means that you won't be tempted to buy chemical drain openers that are far from safe for living organisms. Keep food from being washed down the drain by using your sinks food catchers or buying them if you don't have them. Never pour fats down the drains. I pour fat into old coffee cans and store them in the fridge.
The other product I'm in love with from Method is the eucalyptus and mint soap dissolver and shower stain remover. This stuff is good and works better than their toxic cousins. You spray it on shower tile and wipe with a sponge. To clean tubs and shower floors Bon Ami scouring powder is good. It doesn't have that bleach in it that gets into your lungs every time you pour it out. The stuff works well too, and can also be used to clean sinks as well.
Instead of cleaning with paper towels as my predominate method of cleaning, I switched to these blue cloths that come in a familiar paper towel roll. These cloths leave no lint and can be rinsed again and again. Always work from most clean to least clean. For example, clean the kitchen with one rag, the bathroom sink and then the toilet. When you get to the toilet, throw the rag away, you don't want to spread those germs and bacteria to other surfaces. They never leave lint like ordinary paper towels which can't be rinsed like the blue cloths. Recycled paper towels are a great concept, but unfortunately, they are inferior. Washable, lint free rags would be a better alternative if you didn't want to use the blue coths.
Use products that don't contain bleach to clean. To clean shower stalls and bathtubs use Bon Ami, this cleaner is great at scrubbing away stains, dirt, mildew, odors and bacteria. You don't need toxic chlorine.
On that note, I'm looking for laundry tips. I haven't found an eco-friendly detergent that I can afford. If you know of an economical alternative let me know.
LAUNDRY
In place of ridiculously scented fabric softeners, use just plain white vinegar. About 2 tablespoons in the rinse cycle is perfect. This is better than all of the commercial fabric softeners available. If you want to enhance your detergent, use less of the product, but add Baking Soda to the wash cycle. If you want to add the vinegar to the rinse cycle, just put in the fabric softener dispenser, a Downy ball or just add it manually.
Baking Soda to the wash cycle is so beneficial. It makes brights and whites more vibrant while acting as a fabric softener and odor deodorizer. Your clothes will never be fresher or softer. Baking Soda is so diverse. It absorbs odors. Put in your refrigerator or sprinkle on your carpets in order to trap odors. To test effectiveness, add vinegar and see if it sizzles. Buy big boxes of baking soda, because it is so universal. Don't ever buy little bottles of vinegar, you must have lots of vinegar! Soak things in vinegar, it works better without toxins. Get rid of water deposits by soaking shower heads and sink sprayers in vinegar.
To clean hardwoods, after vacuuming use water and vinegar, or something similar to Murphy's Oil Soap. I use Ecover which has a similar, but is more eco-friendly by using linseed oil as their base. You can get on your hands and knees which is a time tested method or if you have large surfaces try a flat wet mop head that can easily be washed.
I think this is enough for now (If you are still with me), but I'm sure as time goes on I'll have more tips or new and improved ones, or others I forgot to mention. I learned a lot from Deidre Imus who seems way more sheik than her husband.
Toxic=NOT clean
UPDATE 6/11/07
I forgot to mention that vinegar should be diluted when washing floors. Just put as much or as little as you like in a bucket of hot water. Besides using hands and knees, do your research on finding a nice mop. Don't buy things that will go in landfills in a year or two if you can help it.
james - 07/10/07 21:08
Before there was house cleaning chemicals there was vinegar. Well, vinegar and mercury, but this was long ago. I don't understand why people are afraid of germs when everything we touch, eat, and breath is covered with germs. Oh ya, you went all Chernobyl on those germs? Great, they will be back in two minutes plus you also have a toxis chemical to contend with.
in summation, right on.
Before there was house cleaning chemicals there was vinegar. Well, vinegar and mercury, but this was long ago. I don't understand why people are afraid of germs when everything we touch, eat, and breath is covered with germs. Oh ya, you went all Chernobyl on those germs? Great, they will be back in two minutes plus you also have a toxis chemical to contend with.
in summation, right on.
jenks - 07/10/07 18:58
Do you have stock in the vinegar company? ;) haha, just kidding.
I can't believe all you people hate vinegar- i LOVE it. At least, to eat... I don't know how I'd feel about my house smelling like vinegar, but it's worth a try.
Thanks, lib.
Do you have stock in the vinegar company? ;) haha, just kidding.
I can't believe all you people hate vinegar- i LOVE it. At least, to eat... I don't know how I'd feel about my house smelling like vinegar, but it's worth a try.
Thanks, lib.
metalpeter - 07/10/07 18:50
Very interesting stuff when ever I decide to clean again I will have to relookup this journal. The only issue I have is the Vinagear I really don't like the smell of it and can't picture myself using it to clean stuff and how it would make my place smell. I really should find a place to get those clothes dust builds up quickly in my house it seems and at work also. Thanks for all the info, I wish I could help you with what you are looking for but i have no information on that.
Very interesting stuff when ever I decide to clean again I will have to relookup this journal. The only issue I have is the Vinagear I really don't like the smell of it and can't picture myself using it to clean stuff and how it would make my place smell. I really should find a place to get those clothes dust builds up quickly in my house it seems and at work also. Thanks for all the info, I wish I could help you with what you are looking for but i have no information on that.
joshua - 07/10/07 13:16
I don't think I'll ever use vinegar for anything other than cleaning the coffee maker - seriously, the smell for me (and worse for Jason) makes it impossible to use in any widespread way.
When it comes to the inside of the toilet bowl, I'm not so concerned with using a chemical because, well, its a toilet bowl. I'm not drinking out of it nor am I coming into contact with anything in any meaningful way. If that makes me an eco-sinner so be it - I like the liquid products with the Teflon coating included.
With respect to the countertop - I have a serious concern about using things with bleach, etc. After all, we do work on and use our contertops all the time. As a general cleaner I use Orange Clean or sometimes the Weg brand. If I could find a more natural product that I could live with that is safer and I feel confident will clean thoroughly enough I'd definitely switch. Again - can't use vinegar for that in our house. Maybe I'll try Method! I prepare food all the time on those counters, and I am always thinking about what we use to clean them.
Cleaning dust - do people actually use a chemical for that? I've always used a cloth or those glove-shaped Swiffers, which are fun and do a good job. I hate it when the blinds get dusty though - I find that to be the biggest pain. I've heard of people soaking them, but to mixed reviews. In the case of blinds, your standard window blinds are now made so cheaply (and out of petroleum-based plastics) that its far easier to simply replace them.
I don't think I'll ever use vinegar for anything other than cleaning the coffee maker - seriously, the smell for me (and worse for Jason) makes it impossible to use in any widespread way.
When it comes to the inside of the toilet bowl, I'm not so concerned with using a chemical because, well, its a toilet bowl. I'm not drinking out of it nor am I coming into contact with anything in any meaningful way. If that makes me an eco-sinner so be it - I like the liquid products with the Teflon coating included.
With respect to the countertop - I have a serious concern about using things with bleach, etc. After all, we do work on and use our contertops all the time. As a general cleaner I use Orange Clean or sometimes the Weg brand. If I could find a more natural product that I could live with that is safer and I feel confident will clean thoroughly enough I'd definitely switch. Again - can't use vinegar for that in our house. Maybe I'll try Method! I prepare food all the time on those counters, and I am always thinking about what we use to clean them.
Cleaning dust - do people actually use a chemical for that? I've always used a cloth or those glove-shaped Swiffers, which are fun and do a good job. I hate it when the blinds get dusty though - I find that to be the biggest pain. I've heard of people soaking them, but to mixed reviews. In the case of blinds, your standard window blinds are now made so cheaply (and out of petroleum-based plastics) that its far easier to simply replace them.
leetee - 07/10/07 09:46
I use baking soda a lot to clean all of the stainless steel we have... particularly the kitchen sink.
But i don't use vinegar much because it gives me a rash. I used to work somewhere that always used white vinegar and water to clean the plexiglass displays and i always got a bad rash from it..
I've heard it does wonders, but i just can't use a lot of it.
Oh, but i do use white vingar and table salt to clean tea stains from my cups and tea pots. Just mix it into a paste and rub. Then i clean it with usual soap and water to make sure i don't drink any vinegar.
I use baking soda a lot to clean all of the stainless steel we have... particularly the kitchen sink.
But i don't use vinegar much because it gives me a rash. I used to work somewhere that always used white vinegar and water to clean the plexiglass displays and i always got a bad rash from it..
I've heard it does wonders, but i just can't use a lot of it.
Oh, but i do use white vingar and table salt to clean tea stains from my cups and tea pots. Just mix it into a paste and rub. Then i clean it with usual soap and water to make sure i don't drink any vinegar.
drew - 07/10/07 09:23
Wow. You worked hard on this. Thanks. I am too toxic and will use some of your tips to become less so.
Wow. You worked hard on this. Thanks. I am too toxic and will use some of your tips to become less so.
07/06/2007 01:29 #39938
Mighty HeartTonight I saw Mighty Heart, the movie featuring Angelina Jolie as Marianne Pearl. Great film with superb acting. Angelina's skills as an actress were above and beyond my normal expectations of good acting. There are some I saw online who object to a white woman playing a mulata who has more black than white, but I think that Angelina fit the part well. If Marianne Pearl is not offended, than why should anyone else? Angelina could be mistaken for a Cuban mulata more so than Halle Berry. If Angelina can play the part so convincingly than why should the part be given to someone who has some black in them? Angelina actually looked very similar to Marianne with her wig on. Interesting thing is that Angelina became friends with Marianne before the idea of a movie materialized. I think that my favorite part about Angelina was her very believable French accent.
Maybe one day I will meet Marianne, she practices with the same Buddhist organization I do, so it is possible. Her Buddhist practice is very subtly interwoven in the film. It makes me think of how difficult it would be to retain your faith in such a difficult time. Regardless of the faith you have, I think that this would be a difficult situation. Anger is such a strong life condition and can become so overpowering. Marianne did well in changing her anger into something positive. She defeated terrorism in a way that war and violence could never do because war and violence is terror itself.
Too bad the movie opened with a commercial for the National Guard. Someday people will laugh at us in the future when they are watching the vintage US propaganda films that compel us into the US Army to kill and be killed so we can kick terrorisms ass. I see we are doing a great job killing all the terrorists. Everything is so much safer now that we have "smoked em out of der holes".
Maybe one day I will meet Marianne, she practices with the same Buddhist organization I do, so it is possible. Her Buddhist practice is very subtly interwoven in the film. It makes me think of how difficult it would be to retain your faith in such a difficult time. Regardless of the faith you have, I think that this would be a difficult situation. Anger is such a strong life condition and can become so overpowering. Marianne did well in changing her anger into something positive. She defeated terrorism in a way that war and violence could never do because war and violence is terror itself.
Too bad the movie opened with a commercial for the National Guard. Someday people will laugh at us in the future when they are watching the vintage US propaganda films that compel us into the US Army to kill and be killed so we can kick terrorisms ass. I see we are doing a great job killing all the terrorists. Everything is so much safer now that we have "smoked em out of der holes".
metalpeter - 07/06/07 19:30
I admit I think Agelina Jolie is a hottie and I won't go into what I would let her do to me, I also think she is a pretty good actor. That being said I'm sorry I have never heard of the movie or the person she is playing. IN terms of the ad for the national guard: I think they are one of the better military branches. The reason I say that is that they do stuff for the community. When there is a diaster they are usaly the first ones there. I see no reason why the military shouldn't have ads. However that being said i think the ones where they make it look like a video game are wrong. There are people who will make the jump that it is like a video game and not think about the danger aspect.
I admit I think Agelina Jolie is a hottie and I won't go into what I would let her do to me, I also think she is a pretty good actor. That being said I'm sorry I have never heard of the movie or the person she is playing. IN terms of the ad for the national guard: I think they are one of the better military branches. The reason I say that is that they do stuff for the community. When there is a diaster they are usaly the first ones there. I see no reason why the military shouldn't have ads. However that being said i think the ones where they make it look like a video game are wrong. There are people who will make the jump that it is like a video game and not think about the danger aspect.
fellyconnelly - 07/06/07 11:30
angelina.... halle berry... this post has it all! except photos of both...
angelina.... halle berry... this post has it all! except photos of both...
07/04/2007 18:44 #39914
4th of July messageUPDATE
6/05/07 Yes my shirt was made in China and I ate fried dough off of a Styrofoam plate while I wore it. If I knew that it was going to be served on that piece of oily trash I would have declined. I do have to say that I am a hypocrite because I contribute to warming, but I am trying to change my ways. Too bad I am eating the flesh again. Next post Green Clean.
6/06/07 CORRECTION my shirt was made in Honduras and my next post is Mighty Heart not Green Clean.
museumchick - 07/05/07 14:31
Very cool shirt.
Very cool shirt.
joshua - 07/05/07 09:22
Ok - I like this t-shirt.
Ok - I like this t-shirt.
james - 07/04/07 19:33
What you talking about, Global Warming is the hippest dope on the street fool!
ahem, that was my attempt to sound 'hip'
But, right on brother!
What you talking about, Global Warming is the hippest dope on the street fool!
ahem, that was my attempt to sound 'hip'
But, right on brother!
my mom used to wash my hair in vinegar when i was a kid when lice was going around. Supposedly it kills the eggs. i LOVE the smell of vinegar, and it would make my hair really, really soft. when i was older i washed my hair in vinegar just for the hell of it.
Malt Vinegar on fish and freshly cut chips(fries) is one of my great joys in life.
I have been known to cross the bridge over to Canada just experience that taste that one cannot find anywhere around here.
wow... all you vinegar haters. Like salt and vinegar potato chips- just THINKING about them makes my mouth water. If I make a salad, sometimes I skip the oil and just put vinegar on. yummm!
I also have to admit that I can't stand the smell of Bleach either. Not to mention breathing in stuff that has bleach in it is so bad. I don't hate on vinager I mean chips with it are ok, but there is just an aspect to the smell of it that bothers me. Off course I gueess after I used it I could allways burn incense. My theory on cleaning is that I wait untill things are bad enough that I can see that something is dirty. What I did use once and really liked that I wonder if there is some more natural and less chemical version of is that critus stuff that is orange. I don't know if the citrus really cleans anything or if it is just a nice smell. The thing about smell is that what is nice to some is nasty to others. I love the smell of Gas and hate fish and some people it is just the opposite. But who knows I may try it I know I do have some vinager in my house but not sure if it the right kind or if it is the apple stuff.
Vinegar is my mortal enemy. I know it cleans coffee pots really well, but it triggers my gag-reflex. I don't eat salad dressing, and bitch and moan about Chiavetta's, strictly because of the vinegar. I don't know if I could ever use straight up vinegar. I will say though the vinegar Windex doesn't smell all that vinegary. Not that I clean anyway, Josh does that stuff.