Out of 22 full-time employees in our office, eight have quit since I started working here [not including one who quit and came back] and one new position was created. Today I found out two more will be leaving in a couple of weeks to go see America.
The whole point of this story is: I got a callback on that web app developer position at Buff State . Seems I didn't completely fuck up my chances of being hired yet and, despite not having exactly the experience they're looking for [cf: Appendix I] it seems they still want me to have a short 3-hour chat with the search committee, the web team, and the web administration director. Privately I am shitting minibricks because the main reason I applied for the job was because it would be idiotic not to [double my salary, plus benefits, government job, &c.]. I was not really looking for a job. It's more like Laff in the Dark. I'm just cruising along in my uncomfortable little car with, like, bats in my face or something, and then it's like BAM! motherfucker! send us your resume. And then I fall right off the end of the extended metaphor into some kind of Search Committee asking me for references.
Which brings me to another, premature point- anyone want to be a web applications developer here? It involves Macs and Adobe Creative Suite and dealing with weirdoes and PostgreSQL and Zope ... lots and lots of Zope.
Also I saw (e:enknot) and (e:paul) at Cafe 59 at lunch today. We discussed the merits of a column in my paper about extremely dorky things that nobody would ever understand. We think it's a great idea, but I'm not convinced that the public is Ready for that kind of nerdiness.
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Appendix I: They are seeking a web applications developer with custom CMS development experience [this is something I have been doing for several years]. They also want a few years of PHP and Oracle experience. I've used PHP extensively and I was allowed to fiddle with Oracle a little at school, but I have almost nothing to show for either. I've always been of the opinion that the stuff you do is what's important and the language you use is kind of an implementation detail. Employers rarely share this opinion.
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09/06/2006 14:00 #37373
well, shitCategory: work
08/31/2006 18:25 #37372
know what's really weird?Category: rhetorical question
In the United States, we pledge allegiance first to our flag and only secondly to the republic for which it stands. What happens if the flag no longer stands for what it once stood for? If someone draped themselves in the flag while dismantling the republic, would we defend the flag or the power of the people?
- Z
- Z
jason - 09/01/06 00:50
One is symbolic of the other. In this sense they are not separable. At least that's my take on it.
Not one man can turn the country on its head, making it something different than it was before.
Looking back 60 years at the greatest generation, we do not in the least resemble them. In ways both good and bad we are different, and the country is doubtlessly not the same as it was back then.
What do we stand for? I say we stand for nothing. We are lost.
One is symbolic of the other. In this sense they are not separable. At least that's my take on it.
Not one man can turn the country on its head, making it something different than it was before.
Looking back 60 years at the greatest generation, we do not in the least resemble them. In ways both good and bad we are different, and the country is doubtlessly not the same as it was back then.
What do we stand for? I say we stand for nothing. We are lost.
uncutsaniflush - 08/31/06 20:57
(e:carolinian), there has been a 49 star flag see to see with it looks like :::link:::
Also anyone interested in how the stars were configured over the years should check out :::link:::
towards the middle of the page are links to pix of all the official flags of the U.S. over the years.
(e:zobar) perhaps this might explain: ln -s republic flag <g>
(e:carolinian), there has been a 49 star flag see to see with it looks like :::link:::
Also anyone interested in how the stars were configured over the years should check out :::link:::
towards the middle of the page are links to pix of all the official flags of the U.S. over the years.
(e:zobar) perhaps this might explain: ln -s republic flag <g>
carolinian - 08/31/06 20:15
I've always wondered what would happen if we gained or lost a state. 51 stars just can't be placed all nice and symmetric-like, and while 49 stars (7 x 7) could, they would force the blue area to become perfectly square.
If we gain Puerto Rico as a state, do we have to invade another country to make the flag look nice again? Or if Texas secedes, who do we kick out to make the stars even, Utah or New Jersey?
I've always wondered what would happen if we gained or lost a state. 51 stars just can't be placed all nice and symmetric-like, and while 49 stars (7 x 7) could, they would force the blue area to become perfectly square.
If we gain Puerto Rico as a state, do we have to invade another country to make the flag look nice again? Or if Texas secedes, who do we kick out to make the stars even, Utah or New Jersey?
joshua - 08/31/06 19:28
You must have been listening to 1270 WHLD "The Voice Of Treason" today. I happened to be.
You must have been listening to 1270 WHLD "The Voice Of Treason" today. I happened to be.
08/29/2006 18:47 #37371
dear sirsCategory: food
Correspondence with [former staffer] has piqued my interest in the Web Applications Developer position listed on Buffalo State's Human Resources website. I have spent more waking hours of my life developing, maintaining, and updating high-volume and high-readership custom document production and content management systems than I am proud to admit . . .
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Last night we went to Condrell's for improbably enormous sundaes. I decided that if I ever ran my own soda shop, there would be an inscrutable item on the menu labeled:
UNSPEAKABLE ICE CREAM CATASTROPHE . . . . . . . . . . $9.50
It would probably be in small letters jammed in between two sections somewhere, where nobody would find it. And though one must not speak of the Unspeakable Ice Cream Catastrophe, we came up with some sugar-fueled ideas for what would happen when someone ordered it.
The Unspeakable Ice Cream Catastrophe:
[list]
would require a waiver
would require proof of age
would be on the news
would drip out of the ductwork in the ceiling
would come flying at your head from the kitchen
would be a Friendly's cone-head with a butter knife through it
would be different every time
would be served on a Reuben
would be accompanied by shrieks and loud banging from the kitchen
would not necessarily taste awful
would be topped with jagermeister
would be served in a totalled Tonka truck
would involve flaming marshmallows
would somehow degenerate while you were eating it
would look like any other sundae until the ninjas came rappelling in through the window
would somehow pass health inspection
would have a tire track through it
would be like dinner theater
would involve pop rocks
would require goggles and a poncho
would require counseling
[/list]
- Z
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Last night we went to Condrell's for improbably enormous sundaes. I decided that if I ever ran my own soda shop, there would be an inscrutable item on the menu labeled:
UNSPEAKABLE ICE CREAM CATASTROPHE . . . . . . . . . . $9.50
It would probably be in small letters jammed in between two sections somewhere, where nobody would find it. And though one must not speak of the Unspeakable Ice Cream Catastrophe, we came up with some sugar-fueled ideas for what would happen when someone ordered it.
The Unspeakable Ice Cream Catastrophe:
[list]
would require a waiver
would require proof of age
would be on the news
would drip out of the ductwork in the ceiling
would come flying at your head from the kitchen
would be a Friendly's cone-head with a butter knife through it
would be different every time
would be served on a Reuben
would be accompanied by shrieks and loud banging from the kitchen
would not necessarily taste awful
would be topped with jagermeister
would be served in a totalled Tonka truck
would involve flaming marshmallows
would somehow degenerate while you were eating it
would look like any other sundae until the ninjas came rappelling in through the window
would somehow pass health inspection
would have a tire track through it
would be like dinner theater
would involve pop rocks
would require goggles and a poncho
would require counseling
[/list]
- Z
imk2 - 08/30/06 08:04
how about....would be sprinkeld with prozac.
how about....would be sprinkeld with prozac.
08/28/2006 21:30 #37370
wheelsCategory: wheels
(e:dragonlady7) and I missed the (e:mike) & (e:terry) partysplosion this weekend because we took our wheels to Toronto instead [cf: ]. We had a wonderful time, and perhaps I will write about it in more detail later [but, more likely, I will forget].
This afternoon, we got eight more wheels each and tooled around the neighborhood a little [cf: ]. I am less likely to write about them later; suffice it to say that this is a very nice pair of roller skates, and I plan to pick up my old habit of roller skating around the park again [cf: ].
This weekend I got an email from a former editorial assistant informing me that Buffalo State College is seeking a Web Applications Developer . On the one hand, I like doing what I'm doing now - people programming - and, while I'm not exactly upwardly mobile, my department has no choice but to grow.
But when you get a call from a photographer who has not appeared in your publication since longer than you've been working there and whose skills at annoyance and coercion are second only to her skill at photography, blaming a recently-departed coworker for fucking her over, quote and unquote, and that she will have to miss fashion week because she can no longer fool the appropriate authorities into believing that someone publishes her photos [which are actually very good an publishable if only she could find a periodical that actually, say, has a fashion section] - and all this can be avoided if I could sift through somewhere around 4000 of her photos from the last two seasons and put them on our website within the next couple weeks [oh and by the way she just lost her baby and the world hates her] - well, it kinda makes me think that maybe doubling my salary and getting benefits for a cushy and less dramatic government job might not be as bad an idea as it may sound.
Any other disgruntled Web developers want in on this? We can show up for our interviews at the same time and freak out HR by talking trash at each other in the waiting room. We could make the interviewer uncomfortable by offering to 'do this Thunderdome-style.'
- Z
This afternoon, we got eight more wheels each and tooled around the neighborhood a little [cf: ]. I am less likely to write about them later; suffice it to say that this is a very nice pair of roller skates, and I plan to pick up my old habit of roller skating around the park again [cf: ].
This weekend I got an email from a former editorial assistant informing me that Buffalo State College is seeking a Web Applications Developer . On the one hand, I like doing what I'm doing now - people programming - and, while I'm not exactly upwardly mobile, my department has no choice but to grow.
But when you get a call from a photographer who has not appeared in your publication since longer than you've been working there and whose skills at annoyance and coercion are second only to her skill at photography, blaming a recently-departed coworker for fucking her over, quote and unquote, and that she will have to miss fashion week because she can no longer fool the appropriate authorities into believing that someone publishes her photos [which are actually very good an publishable if only she could find a periodical that actually, say, has a fashion section] - and all this can be avoided if I could sift through somewhere around 4000 of her photos from the last two seasons and put them on our website within the next couple weeks [oh and by the way she just lost her baby and the world hates her] - well, it kinda makes me think that maybe doubling my salary and getting benefits for a cushy and less dramatic government job might not be as bad an idea as it may sound.
Any other disgruntled Web developers want in on this? We can show up for our interviews at the same time and freak out HR by talking trash at each other in the waiting room. We could make the interviewer uncomfortable by offering to 'do this Thunderdome-style.'
- Z
zobar - 08/29/06 08:18
Heh.
- Z
probably doesn't have a micromanaging self-defeating hair-trigger CEO
Heh.
- Z
carolinian - 08/28/06 23:55
It's actually kind of funny. The other day, I was thinking about all the bullshit and stupid people(s) I have to deal with in my job, and I thought to myself "Zobar is one lucky bastard. He's working at an artsy place with lots of cool people that probably doesn't have a micromanaging self-defeating hair-trigger CEO. I should aspire to get to the point where he's at."
I totally understand the lure of doing college IT. I really miss the people at the college back in NC that I previously came from, and while I like Buffalo a lot, I think that I would be happier professionally if I would have been able to work at my school full-time.
As for Thunderdome, I'm not doing much web development in my current job, but I can probably hold my own with any variety of blunt instruments. Just name the place and time.
It's actually kind of funny. The other day, I was thinking about all the bullshit and stupid people(s) I have to deal with in my job, and I thought to myself "Zobar is one lucky bastard. He's working at an artsy place with lots of cool people that probably doesn't have a micromanaging self-defeating hair-trigger CEO. I should aspire to get to the point where he's at."
I totally understand the lure of doing college IT. I really miss the people at the college back in NC that I previously came from, and while I like Buffalo a lot, I think that I would be happier professionally if I would have been able to work at my school full-time.
As for Thunderdome, I'm not doing much web development in my current job, but I can probably hold my own with any variety of blunt instruments. Just name the place and time.
mrmike - 08/28/06 23:23
"two dorks enter, one dork leaves......"
"two dorks enter, one dork leaves......"
08/19/2006 13:47 #37369
100Category: poetry
"100," a demented and somewhat fractured love story by the users of (e:strip), as edited by (e:zobar)
I personally like the opposite sex (on a good day, that is). (e:southernyankee,100) What does this say about me? (e:hodown,100) Her nickname is Barbie because she's tall and blond and wears lots of makeup. (e:jenks,100) I picked up the new Artvoice this morning; (e:uncutsaniflush,100) there are lots of pictures of her. Very nice pictures, I must admit. (e:metalpeter,100)
If you wait for more than 48 hours without anyone picking up the phone, hang up and send a letter. (e:mrmike,100) Finally broke down, couldn't take it no more. (e:shawnr,100) I felt like I had a duty to share this information with everyone; (e:lisa,100) some of you might get a kick out of this: (e:joshua,100)
"ur hot
ur pretty
ur sexy
ur adorable
ur sweet
ur a sexy angel in heaven
ur a beautiful centerfold
ur as pretty as a rose (e:theecarey,100)
You're quite the maid of the mist. (e:ajay,100)
I hope you have a great one. (e:mike,100)
Love to you." (e:terry,100)
I just did our grocery shopping tonight. (e:kara,100) There she was! (e:springfaerie,100) Lucky I brought my camera along! (e:ladycroft,100) I can't believe how many pictures I took. (e:maureen,100) She was always screaming at me (e:leetee,100) - no one would believe me that these accidents are not my fault. (e:imk2,100)
I am saving her head. (e:libertad,100) Can we fix this problem? (e:lilho,100)
- Z
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Appropriately demented journal music: Talking Heads, 'Psycho Killer' (Live), from 'Stop Making Sense.' gather:0188079001156010872
I personally like the opposite sex (on a good day, that is). (e:southernyankee,100) What does this say about me? (e:hodown,100) Her nickname is Barbie because she's tall and blond and wears lots of makeup. (e:jenks,100) I picked up the new Artvoice this morning; (e:uncutsaniflush,100) there are lots of pictures of her. Very nice pictures, I must admit. (e:metalpeter,100)
If you wait for more than 48 hours without anyone picking up the phone, hang up and send a letter. (e:mrmike,100) Finally broke down, couldn't take it no more. (e:shawnr,100) I felt like I had a duty to share this information with everyone; (e:lisa,100) some of you might get a kick out of this: (e:joshua,100)
"ur hot
ur pretty
ur sexy
ur adorable
ur sweet
ur a sexy angel in heaven
ur a beautiful centerfold
ur as pretty as a rose (e:theecarey,100)
You're quite the maid of the mist. (e:ajay,100)
I hope you have a great one. (e:mike,100)
Love to you." (e:terry,100)
I just did our grocery shopping tonight. (e:kara,100) There she was! (e:springfaerie,100) Lucky I brought my camera along! (e:ladycroft,100) I can't believe how many pictures I took. (e:maureen,100) She was always screaming at me (e:leetee,100) - no one would believe me that these accidents are not my fault. (e:imk2,100)
I am saving her head. (e:libertad,100) Can we fix this problem? (e:lilho,100)
- Z
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Appropriately demented journal music: Talking Heads, 'Psycho Killer' (Live), from 'Stop Making Sense.' gather:0188079001156010872
Welcome to the club, Jason. Now you understand the source of my frustration in job hunts (your advice comment on my post was very good, though).
There's never any discussion about the stuff that really matters for real programming jobs. Like how well you document your code, learn a new technology, create reusable code, use existing documentation, work with other programmers, use a source versioning system, design solutions that allow for future flexibility, etc. Hell, in my experience negotiating the politics of what end users want/need vs. what their managers want/need by itself takes up more time than actual coding.
While I wouldn't expect a technical recruiter to know how to program in a specific language, I would expect someone whose job it is to recruit such people to have some common sense to look for the kind of stuff that's in the above paragraph.
"Employers rarely share this opinion."
Noooo shit man. Hell, I was told this week....hold on a tick, I wasn't told this straight up, but it was incinuated that if you don't use X language in Y amount of time then you must not know X! Very very very stupid, an opinion of someone who obviously never wrote one goddamn line of code.
Anyway I think you should do what's best for Zobar, and if that means moving on then why not? I know you'll make the right choice.