We came up to see Andy C at the Guvernment but have been traveling around as there is no parking by the hotel due to some game. I am starting to get a cold. I hope it can hold out till at least tommorow.
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03/22/2013 21:40 #57414
Weekend Trip To TorontoCategory: vacation
03/22/2013 10:50 #57412
the downside of being salariedCategory: work
Sometimes I wish I could get overtime. There are so many things I want to program for work right now and I generally work about 45 hours per week but I would go back to working 50 or 60 if I could get compensated for it.
Like (e:terry), the harder he works the more money he gets. For me there is no benefit, in fact like many of my salaried coworkers, it encourage me to do work elsewhere.
Like (e:terry), the harder he works the more money he gets. For me there is no benefit, in fact like many of my salaried coworkers, it encourage me to do work elsewhere.
jbeatty - 03/24/13 08:31
I'm always fascinated by the workaholic culture that programmers seem to thrive in.
I think being a salaried employee motivates my to do my work quickly and efficiently. There is no threat of me ever receiving a bonus or overtime, or an actual raise that would make a noticeable difference in my finances. I am simply motivated by maximizing my personal time and leaving work early everyday.
I would be a much better worker if there was some incentive to increase my productivity. But since my job is incredibly boring I'm pretty happy to have lots of free time.
I'm always fascinated by the workaholic culture that programmers seem to thrive in.
I think being a salaried employee motivates my to do my work quickly and efficiently. There is no threat of me ever receiving a bonus or overtime, or an actual raise that would make a noticeable difference in my finances. I am simply motivated by maximizing my personal time and leaving work early everyday.
I would be a much better worker if there was some incentive to increase my productivity. But since my job is incredibly boring I'm pretty happy to have lots of free time.
tinypliny - 03/22/13 17:51
Depends on the job too, btw. When you are a professor, postdoc, researcher with a grant etc, hours don't mean much. You just need to do the job regardless of how long it takes.
Depends on the job too, btw. When you are a professor, postdoc, researcher with a grant etc, hours don't mean much. You just need to do the job regardless of how long it takes.
YesThatCasey - 03/22/13 16:58
In my view, the problem has less to do with lack of compensation for overtime, and more to do with the erosion of correlation to average working hours. Salaries were intended to provide independence to workers who had fluctuating workloads and difficult output measurements. Some weeks, you might spend 10 or 20 hours in the office because that is what was needed, while others might see you there for 12 hours every weekday. If, on average, you were putting far more time in than the average worker, another would be employed to help rebalance the workload.
Today, however, the expectation behind salary is that you are at the office for 40 hours a week, and more whenever it is required (which is consistently trending upwards). This expectation deters hiring an additional worker, and strains the already overburdened worker, which at least partially creates the disincentive that you refer to.
Of course, you are not the average worker since you want to work 60 hours a week, and the unionization and politics of your workplace are bigger contributors to the problem than the salary model.
In my view, the problem has less to do with lack of compensation for overtime, and more to do with the erosion of correlation to average working hours. Salaries were intended to provide independence to workers who had fluctuating workloads and difficult output measurements. Some weeks, you might spend 10 or 20 hours in the office because that is what was needed, while others might see you there for 12 hours every weekday. If, on average, you were putting far more time in than the average worker, another would be employed to help rebalance the workload.
Today, however, the expectation behind salary is that you are at the office for 40 hours a week, and more whenever it is required (which is consistently trending upwards). This expectation deters hiring an additional worker, and strains the already overburdened worker, which at least partially creates the disincentive that you refer to.
Of course, you are not the average worker since you want to work 60 hours a week, and the unionization and politics of your workplace are bigger contributors to the problem than the salary model.
tinypliny - 03/22/13 12:29
I am conflicted. I think salaries encourage stability and constancy to work. Of course this comes at a cost - less money. But really, how much money do we all really need to live well? Are all our money wants even really necessary?
I am conflicted. I think salaries encourage stability and constancy to work. Of course this comes at a cost - less money. But really, how much money do we all really need to live well? Are all our money wants even really necessary?
Robert - 03/22/13 11:57
I feel like salaries are such a rip off. i'd watch one of my managers at the hotel work like a maniac while the other ones slacked off and fucked everything up. I felt terrible for her, she should have been making bags of money... but she was salaried.
but wages are just as bad sometimes. if you weren't salaried, then you'd just have your hours tracked and they start freaking out on you about payroll etc...
I feel like salaries are such a rip off. i'd watch one of my managers at the hotel work like a maniac while the other ones slacked off and fucked everything up. I felt terrible for her, she should have been making bags of money... but she was salaried.
but wages are just as bad sometimes. if you weren't salaried, then you'd just have your hours tracked and they start freaking out on you about payroll etc...
03/21/2013 19:35 #57408
Aqua Blue and BrownCategory: clothes
03/21/2013 00:04 #57405
Furniture that makes me think hodownCategory: furniture
I feel like (e:hodown) would enjoy this style furniture.
metalpeter - 03/22/13 18:57
I could be wrong about this but it doesn't look like it is comfy .. that two person love seat hardly fits casey how would another fit there and his arm feels better on the back then the wood... But I could be wrong but it does match the table so..
I could be wrong about this but it doesn't look like it is comfy .. that two person love seat hardly fits casey how would another fit there and his arm feels better on the back then the wood... But I could be wrong but it does match the table so..
tinypliny - 03/22/13 12:31
I wonder if you ever think of me when you look at wood floors. ;-)
I wonder if you ever think of me when you look at wood floors. ;-)
03/19/2013 22:36 #57398
Stupid ComputersCategory: work
Of course, at like 9:30PM on my vacation day yesterday the main db server's hard disk array crashed and required some manual assistance that no one else could help with. Had to go to the data center because the system was totally offline. Don't have access so I had to wait for public safety. A truly annoying night that went till like 1am moving data and sorting out the issue. In the end, everything was fine except for me relaxing on vacation.
tinypliny - 03/22/13 12:32
At least its not some M$hit system!
At least its not some M$hit system!
it's the Spring Rolls on yonge St.
What restaurant is that? Looks delicious!
Something must be going right. All three of you look smashing. :)
You. I blame you. I am on a continuous listening loop to Demi Lovato - of all people. She is pretty good!