I was reminded recently why I don't eat out anymore. Vegetarian fare, even in prominently vegetarian restaurants such as Merge is so disappointing. I had their "smothered sweet potato fries" with some dairy-substitute called "daiya" last week. It was a hastily put-together mish-mash of soggy fried sweet potato fingers, a cheesy semi-solid bland-tasting thing that I can't describe very well, a smattering of bland french-lentils and wilted bland spinach - all put together in an environmentally unfriendly styrofoam box.
Call me a snob if you want, but I am very sure that I could take each one of these simple components and cook them so that I would want to eat the resulting meal for an entire week without getting bored. I couldn't even get through that one meal from Merge. It was just too bland and too uninteresting. I can see why people turn up their noses at the mention of "vegetarian". Self-proclaimed vegetarian-specialty restaurants such a Merge tarnish what it means to be vegetarian.
Why should I eat bland uninteresting things and pay for it too when I know that I can do a million times better at home?! It's so ridiculous that I forget this fact every now and then. This entry should serve as a reminder. The only thing worth eating out is butter on hot fresh-toasted bread - because really, no one could possibly mess that up however hard they tried.
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02/21/2011 21:15 #53678
Only butter on toast.Category: eating out
02/21/2011 01:04 #53666
Salsa RhythmCategory: dance
After an insane amount of clapping-along to a zillion songs, I think I finally have it.
So in this video the rhythm is a 3-2, Pa Pa Pa Pa-Pa clave.
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 6 & 7 & 8 &.
Pa & 2 Pa 3 & Pa & 5 & Pa & Pa & 8 &
Most of the times, the clave itself is just not discernible. I was trying very hard to listen for individual instruments and their phrasing to discern the clave. I think, in the process, I just stopped hearing the music.
The easiest way is to close your eyes and feel where the music undulates and then snaps back and then repeats this cycle over and over again. The undulation is the three slower-paced beats (Pa Pa Pa) and the snapping back is the quick two beats Pa-Pa. I wonder if Sarah and Sean are listening for this pattern when they dance. It is still hard for me to tell what techniques people are using to decide when to take that first step in any style.
So in this video the rhythm is a 3-2, Pa Pa Pa Pa-Pa clave.
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 6 & 7 & 8 &.
Pa & 2 Pa 3 & Pa & 5 & Pa & Pa & 8 &
Most of the times, the clave itself is just not discernible. I was trying very hard to listen for individual instruments and their phrasing to discern the clave. I think, in the process, I just stopped hearing the music.
The easiest way is to close your eyes and feel where the music undulates and then snaps back and then repeats this cycle over and over again. The undulation is the three slower-paced beats (Pa Pa Pa) and the snapping back is the quick two beats Pa-Pa. I wonder if Sarah and Sean are listening for this pattern when they dance. It is still hard for me to tell what techniques people are using to decide when to take that first step in any style.
02/16/2011 22:21 #53628
It's not a competition?!Category: dance
Get real. When you are the ONLY one flopped in a totally unseemly heap on your mat, while a class of accomplished gymnasts is gracefully twisting into the epic urdhva dhanurasana (or the upright bow) all around you...
(including 1st-time-yogis-by-self-admission such as (e:Paul) and (e:Terry)), you have to admit, it starts to feel like someone gave you the ticket to the Olympics but you accidentally ended up in the competition ring instead of chilling out as a spectator on the stands with buttered and oh-so-salty popcorn. That was, in a nutshell, yoga class today.
But like any regulated sports event, you get detected as a fake very soon and ejected from the ring. Thankfully, I didn't get thrown out of class for ungracefulness but instead, took a massive skid on ice and lacerated my right knee (on the top of a bruise from smashing into a wall on Monday) as I walked back from Pricerite. On the bright side of this minor discomfort, all desire to master the dhanurasana TODAY has been bled out very effectively. I am back to eating massive amounts of chocolate hazelnut butter from my second 1lb bottle - this time blended with yogurt and mixed with frozen blueberries.
It could have been worse though. I could have slipped on ice and impaled my head on a cast-iron fence on the corner of Oakland and Bryant if (e:Paul) and (e:Terry) had not stabilized me in time.
The moral of this tale is almost every second person you see on the street or anywhere really, has had a secret gymnastic past and if you stalked them enough you might also find that they dance the salsa infinitely better than you ever can or will. The trick is to find opportune times to take mighty spills on the pavement and split your knee wide open so that you couldn't care less about your complete lack of skills at transforming yourself into an inverted ancient weapon or doing superawesomecrazy shines at salsa congresses.
(including 1st-time-yogis-by-self-admission such as (e:Paul) and (e:Terry)), you have to admit, it starts to feel like someone gave you the ticket to the Olympics but you accidentally ended up in the competition ring instead of chilling out as a spectator on the stands with buttered and oh-so-salty popcorn. That was, in a nutshell, yoga class today.
But like any regulated sports event, you get detected as a fake very soon and ejected from the ring. Thankfully, I didn't get thrown out of class for ungracefulness but instead, took a massive skid on ice and lacerated my right knee (on the top of a bruise from smashing into a wall on Monday) as I walked back from Pricerite. On the bright side of this minor discomfort, all desire to master the dhanurasana TODAY has been bled out very effectively. I am back to eating massive amounts of chocolate hazelnut butter from my second 1lb bottle - this time blended with yogurt and mixed with frozen blueberries.
It could have been worse though. I could have slipped on ice and impaled my head on a cast-iron fence on the corner of Oakland and Bryant if (e:Paul) and (e:Terry) had not stabilized me in time.
The moral of this tale is almost every second person you see on the street or anywhere really, has had a secret gymnastic past and if you stalked them enough you might also find that they dance the salsa infinitely better than you ever can or will. The trick is to find opportune times to take mighty spills on the pavement and split your knee wide open so that you couldn't care less about your complete lack of skills at transforming yourself into an inverted ancient weapon or doing superawesomecrazy shines at salsa congresses.
tinypliny - 02/18/11 16:52
You know what, (e:metalpeter), you should come to at least one class with us and see what you can do. :)
You never know... you might meet someone hot. ;-)
You know what, (e:metalpeter), you should come to at least one class with us and see what you can do. :)
You never know... you might meet someone hot. ;-)
metalpeter - 02/18/11 16:18
Well there is one reason I would like to take yoga But I won't get into that...HA. That picture it dawns on me there is another way to get into it.... One could also put their hands on the and in theory kick their feet and legs over their body and land on there feet but doing the opposite of that sounds like the better way....
Well there is one reason I would like to take yoga But I won't get into that...HA. That picture it dawns on me there is another way to get into it.... One could also put their hands on the and in theory kick their feet and legs over their body and land on there feet but doing the opposite of that sounds like the better way....
tinypliny - 02/17/11 23:28
Yikes, more secret gymnasts in the yoga class?! Pleae be ready to sign an agreement that you will not twist into crazy poses that I can't do. In blood. Thanks.
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Kidding...
Sort of.
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(e:flacidness) and (e:keithT), I would LOVE to have you come to the class with me!! I am sending you guys an email. :)
Yikes, more secret gymnasts in the yoga class?! Pleae be ready to sign an agreement that you will not twist into crazy poses that I can't do. In blood. Thanks.
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Kidding...
Sort of.
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(e:flacidness) and (e:keithT), I would LOVE to have you come to the class with me!! I am sending you guys an email. :)
heidi - 02/17/11 20:55
(I'd totally take the livingcolors light in payment.)
(I'd totally take the livingcolors light in payment.)
heidi - 02/17/11 20:54
(e:tinypliny) - I am not a lawyer (yet) and hopefully will never know how to file such things. You want a nonprofit organization? a small business? taxes? I can do that.
I love yoga. :-) It's awesome you got all these (e:peeps) interested.
(e:tinypliny) - I am not a lawyer (yet) and hopefully will never know how to file such things. You want a nonprofit organization? a small business? taxes? I can do that.
I love yoga. :-) It's awesome you got all these (e:peeps) interested.
metalpeter - 02/17/11 19:44
The Picture of that women there I used to be able to get that pose well close to it. The way I get to it is by laying on the floor and pushing up with the arms bending the back.... The real way to get to it though is standing and falling back on your hands that I didn't have the body control or the flexibly for........
Now in terms of your body control stuff (never taken yoga) maybe a kung Fu (not joking here) or Karate Class would be good.... You could learn all kinds of positions and stances. The Next time you slip on ice you will know how to fall with out impending death......
All things take practice and you will get there at some point.....
The Picture of that women there I used to be able to get that pose well close to it. The way I get to it is by laying on the floor and pushing up with the arms bending the back.... The real way to get to it though is standing and falling back on your hands that I didn't have the body control or the flexibly for........
Now in terms of your body control stuff (never taken yoga) maybe a kung Fu (not joking here) or Karate Class would be good.... You could learn all kinds of positions and stances. The Next time you slip on ice you will know how to fall with out impending death......
All things take practice and you will get there at some point.....
KeithT - 02/17/11 14:42
Im totally coming next week lil P!! :D
Im totally coming next week lil P!! :D
flacidness - 02/17/11 02:47
We gotta do yoga together when I get back sweetie... :)
We gotta do yoga together when I get back sweetie... :)
tinypliny - 02/17/11 01:26
Do you think they will buy my argument for around a dozen or two of those lamps... (second generation conical ones released in the 4th quarter of 2010 would be perfect, thank you.)? As you can see, I am a very reasonable person. Maybe I can also pay my lawyers in kind after I have finished illuminating every wall in my life with these lamps. Lawyers always have studies and dingy kitchens that they never have time to paint.
Isn't (e:Heidi) training to be one? (e:Heidi), have you had your how-to-file-and-win-unreasonable-and-borderline-frivolous-litigation classes yet? I will pay you in energy-efficient tailored coloured-mood-and-task lighting livingcolors lamps.
What a splendid idea! Just for that, I will also share my litigation-livingcolors with you, (e:Paul)...
Do you think they will buy my argument for around a dozen or two of those lamps... (second generation conical ones released in the 4th quarter of 2010 would be perfect, thank you.)? As you can see, I am a very reasonable person. Maybe I can also pay my lawyers in kind after I have finished illuminating every wall in my life with these lamps. Lawyers always have studies and dingy kitchens that they never have time to paint.
Isn't (e:Heidi) training to be one? (e:Heidi), have you had your how-to-file-and-win-unreasonable-and-borderline-frivolous-litigation classes yet? I will pay you in energy-efficient tailored coloured-mood-and-task lighting livingcolors lamps.
What a splendid idea! Just for that, I will also share my litigation-livingcolors with you, (e:Paul)...
paul - 02/16/11 23:39
This could be your big break. What property did you fall on. Maybe you could just threaten to sue for a livingcolors light.
This could be your big break. What property did you fall on. Maybe you could just threaten to sue for a livingcolors light.
02/16/2011 00:34 #53624
Distro DecisionCategory: linux
I tried out a zillion live-CDs over the past week and the most appealing and uncluttered distro has to be lubuntu. Not only does it not assume that I am an idiot and need a million applications cluttering my operating system, its default browser is Chromium and not Firefox. These two things alone make it super-attractive.
EDIT: I hate lubuntu. It's clunky and quite awful when it comes to remembering any settings. I have switched to WattOS for now.
EDIT2: WattOS was okay but it had its own set of troubles... foremost being lack of activity in its support forums. Just one person supports that distro and that is a surefire recipe for very-long-wait-times and even more frustration.So I switched to Peppermint Ice (runs on LXDE/Openbox desktop environment on top of a Maverick 10.10 kernel). It's very fast compared to ubuntu and has no application bloat because everything is cloud-based. It's almost like a pre-release functioning Chrome OS.
EDIT3: Peppermint Ice was an unstable error-popping joke. I think the whole idea was to have the user install and use the OS for a day or so before unleashing an update from hell on their computers and have it boot to some inane terminal instead of the GUI so that windoze-converts will have an seismic what-do-I-do-NOW panic-attack. I had to google the "startx" command. Peppermint, you are ditched. I am now on Linux Mint on one laptop, Fedora on another (both gnome) and a stripped-down heavily-modified and patched WinXP (I know. I know.) on my oldest laptop.
BodhiLinux came close in terms of minimalism but I just could not figure out how to change simple display options under the Enlightenment GUI. Dual monitor setup was a nightmare. Changing the brightness of the screen required me to learn command line linux. Changing the display resolution was a complicated 1 hour google-hunt without a definite answer. The disappointment list just goes on lengthening.
Deskop Ubuntu has some unwieldy application-bloat. I liked the spiffy-looking Ubuntu-Netbook version but it has bloatware as well. Xubuntu was very display-tweak unfriendly. I am not competent enough yet to build linux from scratch. Someday, I will. Till then, I am settling for a semi-permanent lubuntu install on my Toshiba U305 S7467. I will miss the extremely light version of XP I used to run on the U305. It was just 0.7GB, took 12s to boot, ran just 12 background processes and took up less than 2% of system resources at any given time.
I don't know if and when I will reach that level of hacking comfort with lubuntu. It took me quite sometime to reach that state in XP. I never transitioned to Vista and it's newer evil cousins simply because their bloat was unbearable. I don't think any OS should occupy more than 2GB at the most and take up less than 3% of system resources when it's running.
Or maybe Chrome OS will come out before I get too comfortable with linux. Who knows...
EDIT: I hate lubuntu. It's clunky and quite awful when it comes to remembering any settings.
EDIT2: WattOS was okay but it had its own set of troubles... foremost being lack of activity in its support forums. Just one person supports that distro and that is a surefire recipe for very-long-wait-times and even more frustration.
EDIT3: Peppermint Ice was an unstable error-popping joke. I think the whole idea was to have the user install and use the OS for a day or so before unleashing an update from hell on their computers and have it boot to some inane terminal instead of the GUI so that windoze-converts will have an seismic what-do-I-do-NOW panic-attack. I had to google the "startx" command. Peppermint, you are ditched. I am now on Linux Mint on one laptop, Fedora on another (both gnome) and a stripped-down heavily-modified and patched WinXP (I know. I know.) on my oldest laptop.
BodhiLinux came close in terms of minimalism but I just could not figure out how to change simple display options under the Enlightenment GUI. Dual monitor setup was a nightmare. Changing the brightness of the screen required me to learn command line linux. Changing the display resolution was a complicated 1 hour google-hunt without a definite answer. The disappointment list just goes on lengthening.
Deskop Ubuntu has some unwieldy application-bloat. I liked the spiffy-looking Ubuntu-Netbook version but it has bloatware as well. Xubuntu was very display-tweak unfriendly. I am not competent enough yet to build linux from scratch. Someday, I will. Till then, I am settling for a semi-permanent lubuntu install on my Toshiba U305 S7467. I will miss the extremely light version of XP I used to run on the U305. It was just 0.7GB, took 12s to boot, ran just 12 background processes and took up less than 2% of system resources at any given time.
I don't know if and when I will reach that level of hacking comfort with lubuntu. It took me quite sometime to reach that state in XP. I never transitioned to Vista and it's newer evil cousins simply because their bloat was unbearable. I don't think any OS should occupy more than 2GB at the most and take up less than 3% of system resources when it's running.
Or maybe Chrome OS will come out before I get too comfortable with linux. Who knows...
tinypliny - 02/17/11 23:42
Someday, I need to check out this arsenal of linux boxes you seem to have. I keep imagining it as a row of computers all running different abstract distros lined up and hard-wired together like that scene in the Matrix where we see Neo's flat for the first time (and maybe the last time).
Someday, I need to check out this arsenal of linux boxes you seem to have. I keep imagining it as a row of computers all running different abstract distros lined up and hard-wired together like that scene in the Matrix where we see Neo's flat for the first time (and maybe the last time).
tinypliny - 02/17/11 23:39
Whoa. You know wayy to much Linux. Have mercy on the n00b here! I had no idea about 85% of the things you mentioned in that comment...
Whoa. You know wayy to much Linux. Have mercy on the n00b here! I had no idea about 85% of the things you mentioned in that comment...
uncutsaniflush - 02/17/11 05:29
I didn't get a laptop, I have the Limbo 6000A with a hex-core processor (AMD 1055-T, 6 gigs of RAM and 500 gig hard drive. I also looked at System 76 and for what I was looking Zareason was cheaper.
As I define bloat, no, E17 isn't bloated. E17 is standards compliant, very configurable (sometimes too much) and not based on anything else. I've tried Bodhi. It's a decent implementation of E17 but right now doesn't come in a 64 bit edition so it is not all that interesting to me.
Openbox is a windows manager without bloat. Try CrunchBang :::link::: if you want a debian based distro without desktop shell/window manager bloat.
Speaking of bloat, the geek in me hastens to add that it is important not conflate "operating system" and "distro". Ubuntu may be a full of bloat distro. But it is not the operating system (the linux kernel) that is bloated. It's all the stuff - desktop shell/window manager and apps - on top the operating system. Since Windows comes with just about no apps, lots of distro developers take the kitchen sink approach and throw in lots of apps. Some people like that approach. Obviously you don't.
I didn't get a laptop, I have the Limbo 6000A with a hex-core processor (AMD 1055-T, 6 gigs of RAM and 500 gig hard drive. I also looked at System 76 and for what I was looking Zareason was cheaper.
As I define bloat, no, E17 isn't bloated. E17 is standards compliant, very configurable (sometimes too much) and not based on anything else. I've tried Bodhi. It's a decent implementation of E17 but right now doesn't come in a 64 bit edition so it is not all that interesting to me.
Openbox is a windows manager without bloat. Try CrunchBang :::link::: if you want a debian based distro without desktop shell/window manager bloat.
Speaking of bloat, the geek in me hastens to add that it is important not conflate "operating system" and "distro". Ubuntu may be a full of bloat distro. But it is not the operating system (the linux kernel) that is bloated. It's all the stuff - desktop shell/window manager and apps - on top the operating system. Since Windows comes with just about no apps, lots of distro developers take the kitchen sink approach and throw in lots of apps. Some people like that approach. Obviously you don't.
tinypliny - 02/16/11 23:25
Wait. You have a Zareason????!! I briefly considered them, but almost every one of their better configured laptops was out of stock! So I have ordered from System76 instead. Also, I think Zareason is rather too expensive. Could be just sour grapes though...Which model do you have?
I am just starting out with all this linux mania. I put fedora on my other laptop late last year with (e:Paul)'s encouragement but I never really was this committed to dive in fully. I guess necessity is filling in its matronly shoes here.
I tried Xubuntu as well. Isn't it built with XFCE? I was not very happy.
It gave me a headache with trying to figure out simple display stuff.
I am really interested in hearing why you like E17 so much. Doesn't it seem pretty bloat-ridden? Have you tried BodhiLinux? What is your opinion?
Wait. You have a Zareason????!! I briefly considered them, but almost every one of their better configured laptops was out of stock! So I have ordered from System76 instead. Also, I think Zareason is rather too expensive. Could be just sour grapes though...Which model do you have?
I am just starting out with all this linux mania. I put fedora on my other laptop late last year with (e:Paul)'s encouragement but I never really was this committed to dive in fully. I guess necessity is filling in its matronly shoes here.
I tried Xubuntu as well. Isn't it built with XFCE? I was not very happy.
It gave me a headache with trying to figure out simple display stuff.
I am really interested in hearing why you like E17 so much. Doesn't it seem pretty bloat-ridden? Have you tried BodhiLinux? What is your opinion?
uncutsaniflush - 02/16/11 18:15
Someone else I know likes Lubuntu better than the other *buntus. When I got my Zareason box I promised myself that I would live with Ubuntu Studio for 6 months before I thought about getting rid of it. I'm still not friends with the *buntus, but now at least I don't want to cross the street to get away from an *buntu. I got Linux Mint on another box which I think is better than any of the *buntus despite being Ubuntu-derived. Right now, I am seriously considering farting with the Debian-derived Linux Mint release or perhaps pure Debian.. If time was no object, I would create my own Arch-based custom distro. But I seriously doubt that I will ever get around to it. The only thing that I got Arch on right now is an iBook G3 which I am using more or less as a wi-fi bridge/access point.
I think the only true way to avoid bloat is find a distro that only installs to a CLI and take it from there. Arch is my favie for that sort of thing. Personally, my bug-bear with Linux bloat are the depends for desktop environments like KDE and GNOME. And that is why I think you like Lubuntu, it has LXDE (which I have running on some box but I can't remember what distro). XFCE is another light desktop environment. But, all in all, I'm an Enlightment 17 fanboy. My dream distro would probably be Arch with E17 custom built by me.
Good Luck with Linux. I hope it serves you well.
Someone else I know likes Lubuntu better than the other *buntus. When I got my Zareason box I promised myself that I would live with Ubuntu Studio for 6 months before I thought about getting rid of it. I'm still not friends with the *buntus, but now at least I don't want to cross the street to get away from an *buntu. I got Linux Mint on another box which I think is better than any of the *buntus despite being Ubuntu-derived. Right now, I am seriously considering farting with the Debian-derived Linux Mint release or perhaps pure Debian.. If time was no object, I would create my own Arch-based custom distro. But I seriously doubt that I will ever get around to it. The only thing that I got Arch on right now is an iBook G3 which I am using more or less as a wi-fi bridge/access point.
I think the only true way to avoid bloat is find a distro that only installs to a CLI and take it from there. Arch is my favie for that sort of thing. Personally, my bug-bear with Linux bloat are the depends for desktop environments like KDE and GNOME. And that is why I think you like Lubuntu, it has LXDE (which I have running on some box but I can't remember what distro). XFCE is another light desktop environment. But, all in all, I'm an Enlightment 17 fanboy. My dream distro would probably be Arch with E17 custom built by me.
Good Luck with Linux. I hope it serves you well.
02/15/2011 22:20 #53622
Reverse baby-freezeCategory: dance
I tried around 12 times to do a baby freeze on my left side. Here's a breakdown statistic of the results:
It's impossible. My body just doesn't want to rotate on my right forearm and my left elbow just doesn't stay put on my left waist and slips off the minute I try to stabilize it.
On the other hand, baby-freezing to my right is a happier state of affairs. I managed to stretch the time I could hold the freeze to a whole 30 seconds today. And so I celebrated with another 1/4 lb of Justin's Chocolate Hazelnut Butter. I am dangerously close to a nut butter overload and opening the 2nd bottle. Thankfully, the 3rd bottle belongs to (e:Paul).
- Crash-landed on my head - (2)
- Crash-landed on my left hip - (2)
- Flopped around like a dying fish - (3)
- Leaned too far and felt my elbows give way under me - (2)
- Stopped and stared at the floor in disgust for 10 seconds - (1)
- Acquired a nasty 5-minute-cramp on my left upper arm - (1)
- Acquired a bruise on my left temple - (1)
It's impossible. My body just doesn't want to rotate on my right forearm and my left elbow just doesn't stay put on my left waist and slips off the minute I try to stabilize it.
On the other hand, baby-freezing to my right is a happier state of affairs. I managed to stretch the time I could hold the freeze to a whole 30 seconds today. And so I celebrated with another 1/4 lb of Justin's Chocolate Hazelnut Butter. I am dangerously close to a nut butter overload and opening the 2nd bottle. Thankfully, the 3rd bottle belongs to (e:Paul).
metalpeter - 02/16/11 17:27
Not sure how you would do this but you just have to work at getting better body control on that side. Maybe there are parts of the movement that you can work on by them selves or maybe there are balance and other exercises or tasks you can do that will improve the control you have of that side of your body... That would also help you being able to do other moves in the future on that side or part of your body.......
Not sure how you would do this but you just have to work at getting better body control on that side. Maybe there are parts of the movement that you can work on by them selves or maybe there are balance and other exercises or tasks you can do that will improve the control you have of that side of your body... That would also help you being able to do other moves in the future on that side or part of your body.......
Wait People go to Merge for Food :) ....... I thought that was the place where they perform as you eat so that was the point.... (kinda kidding).. I like my meat and don't get the not eating it.... That being said I think to be a good chef you have to come at stuff from that perspective... You can't have meat as your base and here is this thing with out the meat... The thing with eating vegies is that most of the taste is lost when they get cooked so what you really eat is the spice that is why those fake sausage patties taste so good is you are eating all the spices so your mouth thinks it tastes like the meat ones.......
Heh I did hear it loud and clear. Take a look at the earlier comment. ;-)'
I then recalled that (e:leetee) was a vegetarian so I was wondering if you had ever tried it... I have not tried Olivio. How "buttery" smelling is it?
I forgot that in cyberspace, no one can hear your sarcasm. My point is that vegan "toast and butter" may not be to your liking. And, hence, messed up.
To me, the only thing that tastes like butter is butter. However, there are some non-vegan alternatives are ok. Olivio :::link::: is a product that both (e:leetee) and I use as a butter alternative.
To my tastebuds, the vegan "butter"s that I've had are more unappealing than the cheapest oleo (margarine)
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Do you like "vegan" butter-spread? The hydrogenated content or margarine in most turns me off... And I don't really see any advantage in eating them instead of butter. If I were concerned about calories, I would eat mascarpone instead of butter and still not go the vegetable-oil or margarine based butter-equivalent/alternative spreads.
(e:libertad), I was consumed by (e:paul)-avatar envy, the overwhelming lack of colour in mine and livingcolors-lamp dreams so I splashed my avatar with a riot. :-)
(e:uncutsaniflush) LOL, no. I guess then it is possible to mess it up. hahaha
I assume that you have never had vegan "toast and butter" whilst dining out.
I love your new avatar. Did (e:paul) do that or you?