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11/20/2010 21:54 #53142
Scientific SalsaCategory: dance
The dance is a fascinating study in body dynamics. Quoting Joanna Bosse, who conducted ethnographic research into Salsa...
One of the most difficult aspects of salsa dance to convey to newcomers is the distinctive counter-body motion—a product of a particular combination of knee, hip, and ribcage movements.
Generally, the basic position requires one bent knee while the other remains straightened, and the basic movement involves alternating bent and straight knees. This juxtaposition of one bent knee and one straightened knee causes a secondary response as the hip above the straight knee juts out slightly. Simultaneously, the ribcage moves in the direction of the bent knee, opposite the direction of the extended hip.
The position of the ribcage serves to balance the weight distribution of the extended hip. With each beat of the music, salsa dancers alternate bent and straight knees and direction of the ribcage, maintaining a level height (with little rise and fall or bobbing of the head) and a balanced center of gravity. Another secondary result of this motion (in addition to the hip movement) is that the arms move forward and back in small circles, following the direction of the ribcage and shoulders.
This combination of movements is very subtle and can be executed in a number of ways, depending upon other elements such as arm movement, posture, foot placement, and direction of knee movement; however, it was present to varying degrees among most, if not all, of the Latin American salsa dancers with whom I worked. This is not to say that all Latin Americans were great salsa dancers, but generally speaking this particular issue was not a problem. During my six years of fieldwork I never personally witnessed a salsa dancer specifically reference this aspect—the counter-body motion—in any way. They generally focused on the rhythm and placement of the footwork.
{and this is such an interesting observation...}
Though the Latin American salsa dancers I worked with understood that their hips were moving, their focal awareness was invested in the active engagement of the knees and virtuosic footwork.
In contrast, outsiders to the genre overlooked the complex interplay of body movements and singled out only the movement of the hips as the root of salsa’s energy and perceived sexual appeal. Many fixated on the hip movement and worked exclusively on its performance, forsaking the necessary footwork and knee and ribcage movements that actually make it possible. This movement was not a typical component of their movement dialect and as such, it was very difficult to master and became something upon which newcomers fixated. This fetishization of hip movement on the part of my informants who were new to salsa resulted, in part, from the fact that the requisite counter-body movement was not a typical component of their movement dialect.
References (Taken in whole from):
Joanna Bosse. "Salsa Dance and the Transformation of Style: An Ethnographic Study of Movement and Meaning in a Cross-Cultural Context." Dance Research Journal 40.1 (2008): 45-64.
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11/20/2010 00:02 #53136
Spin baby Spin!Category: dance
I guess I need to practise something called "spotting". It is described in detail at this
Apparently...
It takes practice and you have to go verrrry slowly at first to get the hang of it... but you will be rewarded by non-wobbly turns, balanced stops, and a better feeling in your stomach all around.
Dancing is best learned visually, so I strongly suggest asking your teacher to teach you how to spot your turns.
You know how if you get motion sick, you're supposed to look at a stationary point? That's the idea behind spotting. If you're looking at something stable, your body will feel stable.
Here's a basic way to practice it without worrying about turn technique:
1. Facing straight ahead, find something to fix your eyes on that is eye level or slightly above. This is your "spot". It may be a wall clock, poster, anything that isn't going to move.
2. Slowly start to turn your body, keeping your focus on the spot *and your head stationary*. At this point your body is turning under your head, almost as if your head is floating. Once your body has turned as far as it can without moving your head, turn a little more so that your eyes are looking sideways at the spot. You are looking over your shoulder.
3. Without moving your feet, and keeping your body as still as possible, turn your head to find the spot looking over the other shoulder. This is the opposite of what happened in step 2 - now your head is turning above your body!
4. Always focussing on the spot, complete the turn with your body.
So your body starts the turn, your head whips around to catch up and go ahead of it, and then your body catches up. Your eyes are on one spot except for when it turns so fast you don't have a chance to get dizzy.
Practise this slowly, stopping at each step to make sure there is full separation between the head and body turn. Do it in each direction. Once it starts feeling familiar, do it without stopping the (still slow) rotation.
Then, do it for the types of spins you do, and work it up faster and faster. While practicing alone, you'll have to find a suitable spot in the room. If you're doing partner dancing, often you'll be spotting on your partner's face.
The other way of avoiding dizziness while spinning only applies if you are not generating the spin or unable to spot without disturbing your position; that is, if you are spinning in a lift, or in a super-fast spin where the partner is really powering it and you are basically turning on the spot. In those cases, you have to learn to "blank out" and not see the room, just sense your own balance and then focus as soon as you exit the spin. Those are special circumstances though!
But I am afraid all that detail sounds a bit like this right now...
Maybe I just need shoes that will not put a brake on my spinning all the time...
I think that is a similar idea. I am getting there but my core balance is spotty. Maybe my core muscles are too light and I need to focus on getting them stronger.
I never knew there was this kind of spotting. I thought you meant spotting as in, "He spoted me doing a backflip by holding his arms under my back."
11/19/2010 22:00 #53135
Stormy WeatherCategory: music
ahead for Buffalo.
But mainly, I wanted to dwell on just how awesome Etta James ALWAYS manages to sound.
I love that surly little grittiness in her voice.
I was listening to the song that (e:Paul) posted on his miss-you-already-(e:terry) post (e:paul,53129) today morning and I could only think of Etta James and didn't she capture the very feelings in her own twisty way so many decades back?!
I could hear this song so clearly in my head that I had to hunt it down!
Oh, and (e:libertad) reminded me of this one!
Beyonce's songs are sometimes insanely catchy and they stick in my head - but I don't like them so much. (For eg. the single ladies is SO annoying, I have actually walked out a store and waited till it played out and then gone back making sure it was not on.) I just hate how that tune gets trapped in cobwebs in your brain and doesn't go away for hours! It's not even pleasant like Etta's songs.
Apparently, she was on Alzheimer's medication.
Etta-haters. What an ugly drama!
Who doesn't like Etta James? Some Beyonce fans. Beyonce sang "At Last" for President Obama and Etta James said “I tell you that woman he had singing for him, singing my song, she gonna get her ass whooped… The great Beyonce … but I can’t stand Beyonce. She has no business up there, singing up there on a big ol’ president day … singing my song ["At Last"] that I’ve been singing forever.â€
Read more: :::link:::
If you want to find some of this anti-Etta James Beyonce, try google with "I hate Etta James".
LOL - who doesn't like Etta James?! Name one non-believer!!
I think that the variety of musical genres that she listens is one of the wonderful things about (e:tinypliny)
It is tough to believe you listen to this and the Death Metal Crap, kidding about the death metal. I love heavy guitars just the growling turns me off to it..... Seriously though sometimes one needs to listen to this, and sometimes speedy guitars and then sometimes a rap about how dirty the sex is going to be.....
11/19/2010 20:44 #53134
Teach me how to DougieCategory: dance
You have to appreciate how popularly arcane urban art can be! haha
PS: I saw this video first in my salsa class. My dance teachers were fascinated by the new moves. I was fascinated watching them so immersed. I love how involved they are with dance. It's almost as if dance flows like art and blood through them and they live for the thrill of dancing. They inspire me so much it's hard to express in words. They ARE art.
11/19/2010 00:28 #53123
Hip Hop Love HateCategory: music
Does it all have to be about crime or calling women all kind of juvenile names?! It irritates me so much because I really dig the whole rhythm and the complex multi-layered arrangements of several hip hop artists but I just don't want to listen to them singing about how they clobbered someone to death (and not in a black noir way, either) or how their guns and drugs are so cool.
Of course, I have the option of turning off the vocal frequencies, but the problem is the vocals are so much a part of the melody and rhythm in the song, the song loses a LOT if you eliminate the vocals.
Man, how I wish they all sang/rapped in French!
Hippety hop dilemma.
Hmm ok first...I think we started somewhere around summer or fall of 2009, although I checked through my old journals for confirmation of that and I couldn't tell for sure. Stacy is the first girl who dances in the gray hoodie. She actually started after Felly and I did, but kept going after we left. It's funny you mention the acrobatics side of b-boying, because that is part of why I stopped going.. I was very into the hip hop movement aspects of it, but not so much into the tricks part (which of course takes more upper body strength, which I am seriously lacking.) If you are looking to get to work quicker, have you checked out parkour? If not, do!
And, I have never heard of hip hop yoga!! I have never taken any yoga at all, although I have always thought it sounded pretty awesome...but hip hop yoga sounds super awesome. Hmm...something to consider!
Btw, did you ever consider hip hop yoga? :::link::: It sounds contrary - but might be balance between super-frenzied battles and getting a smidgen too calm.
I must admit that the only motive driving me to take the hip hop classes is not all the lofty battling but maybe... just maybe a graceful way to vault over the numerous walls on my way to and fro from work (I know. Its right DOWN there in the list of über-pathetic motives that anyone can have to take hip hop lessons!)
WOW - that was very impressive! Is she the one in black or the rainbow colours! Did she actually start with you - as a complete beginner? When was it again that you first went to the class - 2009 fall?
Unfortunately, Felly and I don't take classes anymore. Honestly, it was way more physically demanding than I think either of us had expected and we weren't getting anywhere because we weren't doing the work outside of class. There is, however, a girl who we used to take classes with who has gotten amazingly good over the last year and now battles with the guys, which I think is awesome. This is her: :::link:::
Everything is good with us...Felly is a jerk and never comes on here...I always read everybody's stuff, I just don't post! So I am lurking :)
Thank you!! Thank you!! I will check them out!!
I know about the battles (from your and (e:heidi)'s numerous posts!) but somehow never made it to them or to your hip hop class but I am determined that I will these coming months. Do you still take the classes or am I thinking too elementary - and you and (e:Felly) have gone on to the next stage and actually battle people? :-)
How is everything?? You rarely post! (e:Felly) never posts! I miss you guys SO MUCH!
Dearest Tiny. First, check out Nappy Roots :::link:::
... I wouldn't say they are all positive, but that have that Southern sound that I love and hopefully you will love it too. As far as hip hop goes, there is a ton of really good hip hop that isn't so marketed and offensive. If you haven't heard of Outkast, definitely check them out. Also, I recommend Tribe Called Quest, Mos Def, The Fugees/Lauryn Hill,and K-OS.
Also, perhaps Sara has talked about Battle @ Buffalo in class...I highly recommend going there to hear some really good music that you just can't find anywhere else, and if you feel so inclined, buy one of DJ Simple's mixed CD's at the Battle. He has amazing taste.
There is another facet to all hip hop though... It somehow evolved as a form of expression for the oppressed and in some way, the wronged. So maybe its unfair of me to say that I like the melodies and the rhythm but I am not comfortable with the content - because its almost like saying, hey I love your body, but please don't open your mouth. Very shallow in a way. :(
OH MY MY! Pigeon John ROCKS! \m/ NICE one (e:enknot)! Please could you link more?!!!!! I especially like southern-influences hip hop (think T.I., Petey Pablo, Lil Boosie, Missy Elliot, Chamillionaire).
Their is Asian Hip Hop! Not sure where you would find it though and how you would understand it not sure. I relative of mine who works lives in Korea got back into it over there. See Not to sterotype to much but when Asain's get into it they take the positive out of it and don't go all gangsta...
Now Point #2 all the negative stuff is what you see and hear in Videos. There used to be a lot of positve artists who they are now I have no idea......... Sure you can look them up... Oh Yeah when bands like NWA and Ice Cube later blew up (Gangsta Rap) there where bands Like Pete Rock & CL Smooth and Boogie Down Productions that where an entirly different thing so I'm sure there is another movement (two local groups to looks up are Type Relevet and Constant Climax [not sure if they are still together I knew some one in the band]. I'm no expert seeing as I got sick of rap and hip hop or what ever you want to call it, you just have to look it up...
I am sure there is french hip hop. I used to listed to a lot of German hiphop. It wasn't quite as degrading but it still did seem to have a lot of bravado.
Article is excellent! Thanks for posting it.
I think you will really like that article. She views the way people move as a function of who they are, their gender, their culture and their past and present shared experiences. I too, really like the way she describes dance as an extension of language. Give it a read! I am uploading the PDFs in the post now.
I love the concept of "movement dialect".