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03/07/2008 22:05 #43580

Post iphone drama
Category: mobile
Nokia n810 notphone vs iPhone

Screen
The resolution of the nokia n810 not phone kicks the iphone's ass. The clarity of the colors, the brightness and the 800 x480 pixel screen kicks the iphones 320 x 480 screen.

Keyboard
The keyboard makes the not phone a little bigger but I would say it is definitely a great tradeoff for a couple millimeters on both side and neatly tucks away

The zoom vs the stylus
When you really break it down, the pinch zoom feature of safari is required to overcome the lack of styles. Essentially, the links need to be big enough to click them. This results in lots of zooming in and out. When looks cool as a novelty and then becomes really old. The notphone is so high resolution that pages display much more full size.

File Uploads
Iphone has no fucking file uploads form the browser. That is ridiculous in today's world of web sites that you contribute images too. Why limit this? Even my series 40 phone running opera mini can do this. Not phone has fully featured file uploads.

Email
Again, no cut copy paste. Only one image in the email.

SMS
No cut, copy, paste - no picture mail

Load time
site take longer to load on the iphone and then require all kind of zoomin g in and out to make it readible. The higher resolution, larger screen and stylus of the notphone make it way easier.

Sound
The headset free sound on the iphone is worse than any of the phones in our including (e:matthew) and (e:terry)'s free phones. Maybe there is something wrong with the speakers. the notphone is loud and clear enough to be used as an audio entertainment device for the whole room.

Radio
The iphone is limited to my mp3s, the notphone has streaming radio of multiple variaties out of the box.

It also has an FM radio built in for those times when there is no internet.

Cut Copy paste
Again, the lack of it sucks

GPS
The not phone has it, the iphone has it only simulated. On its defense, google maps is way better on the iphone minus lack of cut, copy paste. The zoom interface works really well. Compared to the tilt, they both suck, The tilt running yahoo maps with GPS over HSPDA is the best combo in my opinion.

Summary
I was doubtful before I really had it to play with, but while I think that the iphone is a great consumer, idiot proof device - the nokia n810 is definitely the cooler device for a true technophile.

Some of it is hardware, like the screen and keyboard and gps but the main thing is that the iphone is gimped by the lack of software (bluetooth, email, picture sms, cut/copy/paste, browser upload, streaming radio, flash)

Now if only the nokia n810 has its own GSM chip I would never ven be having this discussion.

Sorry about the quality of the pics. It is dark in the room I am in.
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The best part is that the not phone lets you run instant messenger with a keyboard, and you can leave it open while other programs are running. It also bluetooth transfers files to all my other devices and also acts as a UPnP for my playstation.
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paul - 03/08/08 17:26
(e:tiburon), the tilt is awesome, but if you get it - I can help you get the AT&T crap off and get the cool stuff on it. I wrote about my feeling about it here (e:paul,43583) Ya, it is expensive to have a plan for it though. I think without text messages it is $30 for the dataplan and $35 with 200 messages. You could use it on t-mobile if you bought an unlocked one but then you would have to use edge speed even though it would be cheaper.
tiburon1724 - 03/08/08 17:21
what do you think of the tilt overall? I'm thinking about getting it, though with AT&T adding the data plan to the basic plan plus texting makes it like $95/month + taxes :(
james - 03/08/08 11:54
Paul, have you ever considered getting employment reviewing these little gizmos? Imagine, every wireless device company sending you products so you can try them out. How sweet would that be?
jason - 03/08/08 11:48
Damn, I didn't realize the iPhone tech was so limited. I've been itching to buy an iPod Touch, but doesn't it share some of the features with the iPhone? But then what would I do if I had the iPhone plugged into the car, playing my music, and the phone rang? What would I do? How would it work?

I just feel like I'm stuck with two devices, my iPod and my phone, and it would be annoying to me to be in a situation where I have to live with duplicity. The iPod Touch seems cool but I don't know if it would even be useful in Buffalo as compared to San Fran.

My requirements in a mobile device might not be as stringent as yours, but I definitely sympathize in terms of not having something that satisfies everything you want. What do you think of iPod Touch as a device?

03/07/2008 17:59 #43578

iphone pre drama
Category: mobile
I can't wait to get the iphone so that I can officially hate it and not have everyone thinking I hate it because I haven't experienced it.

Nice things coming:
activesync so I can use my outlook stuff on the phone

Things that I just can't be happy with:
Still no freakin cut copy paste.
no 3G
no real keyboard
no styles
no video camera
emails still only send one image called photo.jpg
the ability to mass move and delete emails
no flash
no streaming radio

And then, this I totally cannot believe but just read on CNET


The SDK item drawing the most attention Friday, however, is that third-party applications will not be allowed to run in the background. TechCrunch's Mike Arrington wrote, "Instant-messaging applications (we saw a demo of an AIM version at the event today), can't run in the background and collect messages while you are doing something else. Leave the application to take a phone call, and it shows you offline."



That is insane. Every phone in the world besides series 40s nokia and a few starter phones that are free from the telcos have the ability to run things as background tasks. It is a major step backwards to not have that ability.

This is what the apple docs have to say:


Writing Code for iPhone OS

The iPhone SDK supports the creation of graphically-oriented applications that run natively in iPhone OS. The applications you create reside on the user's Home screen, along with the other system applications, such as Photos, Weather, and Clock. After it is launched, aside from the kernel and a few low-level daemons, your application is the only application running on the system. While running, your application occupies the entire screen and is the focus of the user's attention. And when the user presses the Home button, your application quits and the system displays the Home screen again. Having the system to yourself is advantageous because it gives you full access to the underlying system resources. You can take advantage of built-in hardware such as the accelerometers, camera, and graphics hardware to run just your code.



So wow, it really can't run multiple apps. that seems so silly like that old palm OS that didn't let you run programs in the background. Somes the notphone or tilt have 10 programs or more running at once.

03/06/2008 10:11 #43565

Hillary Clinton is unfairly treated
Category: politics
I have to say, I think she is unfairly treated by the media. I know you might hate her, or her policies but seriously she is constantly slammed by the media in little ways that add up.

She is not fat. But look at this picture at the top of google news. Its so messed up.

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Or this one, where its all about Chelsea Clinton and the Clinton campaign but the pic is of Obama.
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mrdeadlier - 03/06/08 21:46
Wait-a-minute, wait-a-minute, wait-a-minute, wait-a-minute, WAIT-A-MINUTE!

STOP!

...You mean Hillary's *not* an ugly, manic fatty?

I'm confused.
dcoffee - 03/06/08 16:56
Ha, the picture thing has become obvious to me too, whether the Buffalo News or some online outlet, Clinton usually looks Manic or pissed, and Obama looks Presidential, this is even true when they put the 2 photos next to each other in the same article.

The other point is that the media is far to important in elections these days. Let's face it, the vast majority of people get their news from TV, and newspeople have far too little space to have any serious discussion between commercial breaks. Network news only has about 40 minutes to cover the entire world, and cable newspeople don't seem to take their duty of being the gatekeepers of Democracy very seriously.
megan - 03/06/08 14:43
Ugh I really hate a lot of parts of this election. It seems like the media is playing against Hillary for being a woman and are kissing Obama's ass because he is black. And that is not to his discredit, it just seems like people are afraid of making a bigoted remark but have no problem with being sexist. And NOW they are starting to talk about how unfair the media has been to Hillary (a little late I'm sure I don't need to add). Hey maybe she can win it all back by crying publicly, blaming it on her period, and apologizing to the country the next day.
jason - 03/06/08 13:46
I tend to agree, at least as it pertains to putting up "ugly" photos of her. It seems with her there is no middle ground - the photos are usually the gratuitous "looking off into the distance with the American flag in the background" kind or the really ugly kind. I don't get it. I'm sure there are normal photos of her somewhere.
zobar - 03/06/08 13:35
While she was losing they kept running really happy pictures of her … but it wasn't like 'happy' happy, it was like 'i have some sort of manic disorder' happy.

And dammit I can't find a single one, now.

- Z
james - 03/06/08 11:39
Overly Hard: they used a fat, wrinly picture of her.

Overly Generous: She has not changed the delegate dynamic. She was down a 100. Now she is down around 90.

And did you see the ad against Obama she put out where she made his skin darker?

:::link:::
joshua - 03/06/08 10:53
You are right (e:paul) - the media have been ganging up on her a bit, in particular the past few months. Someone would have to be naive to think that this horribly unflattering picture ended up being used by happenstance.

The truth is (at least in my estimation) that the cult of personality that is Barack H. Obama has overtaken many of the journalists in the media. Its patently obvious who they want elected. Don't even get me started on how the media is treating his wife in comparison with McCain. The New Yorker recently had a 10-page fluff piece on Michelle Obama that referred to her as "regal" etc. - in the same article they do not mention McCain's wife by name but specifically mention "Stepford Wives" to contrast the others from Michelle. It was patently obvious who they were referring to.
jacob - 03/06/08 10:52
I saw this and thought of you.

:::link:::

03/07/2008 10:06 #43573

Black vs Woman President
Category: politics
Hillary is not the greatest woman candidate but I think it would be way more radical to have a woman president than a black one.

I mean black men had the right to vote fifty years before any woman. Why not let it be the other way around this time and let the woman have a first, first. What really surprises me is that making fun of Hillary for being a woman, calling her bitch, etc is acceptable while calling racially demeaning names at Obama is considered unacceptable. I guess woman still are just less equal in the main stream - thats sad. On democracy now they just had a news brief saying that on average woman are paid 16% less then men for he same job. That just blows my mind.

According to it looks like Blacks are only 12.4% or 37.1 million of the US population while women are probably closer to 50% of the US population and maybe more.

I guess I always thought there were more black people. Probably because I grew up in buffalo which has such a large black population and then moved to South Carolina for a while which also had a lot of black people. Before reading that I seriously thought blacks were like 40%+ of the population. I guess I was just judging on my own observations.

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james - 03/07/08 21:00
I try to not to get hard over things like "a black president" or "a woman president" because having one or the other isn't going to change the reality that both are marginalized in our society.

We should elect a S&M gimp to the presidency. Now that would be progress!

03/07/2008 01:27 #43571

iphone tommorow?
Category: mobile
Really, I need another mobile device says my inner phone whore to myself this evening. Do I spend the money now on the iphone only to have to buy an android phone and iphone 2 in June or not?

Luckily, fate and ATT answered this for me. Turns out that the iphone sim works in my tilt and the the iphone sim is cheaper per month than the tilt plan so I can switch back and forth and pay less.

So then I just needed to find an iphone. I bid on one on ebay that was reasonably price and lost in the last few seconds. Then I remembered a friend of mine had one and hated it and she loved my new nokia 7900. They cost about the same. So I IMed her and we scheduled a trade for tomorrow. I, however, am having a little bit of pre-partum depression as the nokia 7900 was the cutest, smallest, fastest 3G, tethering dream phone I ever had ;( At least my friend can tether now too.

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On a side note this is the second night I worked on work from work till midnight. I think I might be a loser?
jenks - 03/07/08 14:28
wait, what iphone 2 in june? I've heard rumors about a 3G iphone, but not that soon... but they are releasing the app store in june, and iphone software v2... is that what you mean? (or do you know something I don't know?)

Anyway, you totally need an iphone, and you need the SDK (downloadable NOW!) so you can write awesome iphone programs.

Yes. do it.

(and I thought i would use my iphone sim in my treo, but haven't done it once. but i like knowing I could.)
fing - 03/07/08 10:01
If you don't want to risk anything you probably should be getting one of these:

:::link:::
james - 03/07/08 09:57
Paul, I would be careful if I were you. I knew this guy who switched phones on a regular basis and then he got chlamydia.

Play safe.
mrdeadlier - 03/07/08 09:34
So does that make him a phone swinger?
fing - 03/07/08 09:31
You know your a phone whore when:

1) You meet someone for a phone swap
2) see #1

However, seeing that you know the person then I might let you slide on this one.
mrdeadlier - 03/07/08 08:45
I wouldn't say your inner phone self is a whore per se - just the "love 'em and leave 'em" type.
imk2 - 03/07/08 02:08
well if that makes you a loser than i am one too, every week.