Most importantly, I am a mac user thst loves mac os x but the iphone/ipod touch OS is not to windows mobile what the mac OS is to windows XP unless you mean in terms of eye candy.
Arch, I can't finish editing the bottom of the post because the edit box has no scroll on the iPhone and there are no arrow keys.

I have an ipod touch at work for testing websites and i really hate it - much more than the iphone which at least has its own gsm chip - and it is definitely less sophisticated than the nokia n800/n810.

I would not buy unless all you want is an ipod that can surf the web at home where you already have a computer ;( Or if you have a huge collection of music the ipod touch might be better becaus eit can be 32GB. I do not have that much music.

In fact, the advantage of the iphone over the nokia wifi devices is that it has its own phone connection. Buffalo is not connected enough to have a wifi only device.

That being said in addition to wifi the nokia n800/n810 can also piggy back off a cell phones connection via bluetooth which is a huge bonus in a city like buffalo that does not wifi everywhere. So it offers more functionality and more connectivity options. In fact San Francisco really doesn't have open wifi very much either in my limited experience. I just wish the n810 has a gsm chip. So sad that it doesn't and I think that is what kills its market share. On the other hand, you have no monthly service fees, same with the ipod touch.

Can the real winner please stand up
But he real winner to me for an all in one, high speed mobile convergence/communication/entertainment device is windows mobile 6 on HTC. All in all, windows mobile on an HTC device like the AT&T Tilt is by far the best hardware, software combo out there. I think the mac stuff only has a large market share because of sexier hardware design and much sexier marketing.

The interface is not as pretty as either of the other two especially by default but once you add the HTC home screen and apps it does everything, play music/video, email, outlook sync, flash, phone, streaming radio, IM, keyboard, cut/copy paste, real gps, and HSPDA super speedy 3G connection. Not to mention there are hundreds if not thousands of free programs that do everything else you need.

Here is a great review of the AT&T tilt vs the iphone that someone else wrote

Here is one about speed comparisons in the browsers

I can't wait to get the iphone so that I can officially hate it and not have everyone thinking I hate it because I haven't experienced it.

Nice things coming:
activesync so I can use my outlook stuff on the phone

Things that I just can't be happy with:
Still no freakin cut copy paste.
no 3G
no real keyboard
no styles
no video camera
emails still only send one image called photo.jpg
the ability to mass move and delete emails
no flash
no streaming radio

And then, this I totally cannot believe but just read on CNET

The SDK item drawing the most attention Friday, however, is that third-party applications will not be allowed to run in the background. TechCrunch's Mike Arrington wrote, "Instant-messaging applications (we saw a demo of an AIM version at the event today), can't run in the background and collect messages while you are doing something else. Leave the application to take a phone call, and it shows you offline."

That is insane. Every phone in the world besides series 40s nokia and a few starter phones that are free from the telcos have the ability to run things as background tasks. It is a major step backwards to not have that ability.

This is what the apple docs have to say:


Writing Code for iPhone OS

The iPhone SDK supports the creation of graphically-oriented applications that run natively in iPhone OS. The applications you create reside on the user's Home screen, along with the other system applications, such as Photos, Weather, and Clock. After it is launched, aside from the kernel and a few low-level daemons, your application is the only application running on the system. While running, your application occupies the entire screen and is the focus of the user's attention. And when the user presses the Home button, your application quits and the system displays the Home screen again. Having the system to yourself is advantageous because it gives you full access to the underlying system resources. You can take advantage of built-in hardware such as the accelerometers, camera, and graphics hardware to run just your code.

So wow, it really can't run multiple apps. that seems so silly like that old palm OS that didn't let you run programs in the background. Somes the notphone or tilt have 10 programs or more running at once.

Nokia n810 notphone vs iPhone

Screen
The resolution of the nokia n810 not phone kicks the iphone's ass. The clarity of the colors, the brightness and the 800 x480 pixel screen kicks the iphones 320 x 480 screen.

Keyboard
The keyboard makes the not phone a little bigger but I would say it is definitely a great tradeoff for a couple millimeters on both side and neatly tucks away

The zoom vs the stylus
When you really break it down, the pinch zoom feature of safari is required to overcome the lack of styles. Essentially, the links need to be big enough to click them. This results in lots of zooming in and out. When looks cool as a novelty and then becomes really old. The notphone is so high resolution that pages display much more full size.

File Uploads
Iphone has no fucking file uploads form the browser. That is ridiculous in today's world of web sites that you contribute images too. Why limit this? Even my series 40 phone running opera mini can do this. Not phone has fully featured file uploads.

Email
Again, no cut copy paste. Only one image in the email.

SMS
No cut, copy, paste - no picture mail

Load time
site take longer to load on the iphone and then require all kind of zoomin g in and out to make it readible. The higher resolution, larger screen and stylus of the notphone make it way easier.

Sound
The headset free sound on the iphone is worse than any of the phones in our including (e:matthew) and (e:terry)'s free phones. Maybe there is something wrong with the speakers. the notphone is loud and clear enough to be used as an audio entertainment device for the whole room.

Radio
The iphone is limited to my mp3s, the notphone has streaming radio of multiple variaties out of the box.

It also has an FM radio built in for those times when there is no internet.

Cut Copy paste
Again, the lack of it sucks

GPS
The not phone has it, the iphone has it only simulated. On its defense, google maps is way better on the iphone minus lack of cut, copy paste. The zoom interface works really well. Compared to the tilt, they both suck, The tilt running yahoo maps with GPS over HSPDA is the best combo in my opinion.

Summary
I was doubtful before I really had it to play with, but while I think that the iphone is a great consumer, idiot proof device - the nokia n810 is definitely the cooler device for a true technophile.

Some of it is hardware, like the screen and keyboard and gps but the main thing is that the iphone is gimped by the lack of software (bluetooth, email, picture sms, cut/copy/paste, browser upload, streaming radio, flash)

Now if only the nokia n810 has its own GSM chip I would never ven be having this discussion.

Sorry about the quality of the pics. It is dark in the room I am in.



The best part is that the not phone lets you run instant messenger with a keyboard, and you can leave it open while other programs are running. It also bluetooth transfers files to all my other devices and also acts as a UPnP for my playstation.

Hillary is not the greatest woman candidate but I think it would be way more radical to have a woman president than a black one.

I mean black men had the right to vote fifty years before any woman. Why not let it be the other way around this time and let the woman have a first, first. What really surprises me is that making fun of Hillary for being a woman, calling her bitch, etc is acceptable while calling racially demeaning names at Obama is considered unacceptable. I guess woman still are just less equal in the main stream - thats sad. On democracy now they just had a news brief saying that on average woman are paid 16% less then men for he same job. That just blows my mind.

According to it looks like Blacks are only 12.4% or 37.1 million of the US population while women are probably closer to 50% of the US population and maybe more.

I guess I always thought there were more black people. Probably because I grew up in buffalo which has such a large black population and then moved to South Carolina for a while which also had a lot of black people. Before reading that I seriously thought blacks were like 40%+ of the population. I guess I was just judging on my own observations.

Really, I need another mobile device says my inner phone whore to myself this evening. Do I spend the money now on the iphone only to have to buy an android phone and iphone 2 in June or not?

Luckily, fate and ATT answered this for me. Turns out that the iphone sim works in my tilt and the the iphone sim is cheaper per month than the tilt plan so I can switch back and forth and pay less.

So then I just needed to find an iphone. I bid on one on ebay that was reasonably price and lost in the last few seconds. Then I remembered a friend of mine had one and hated it and she loved my new nokia 7900. They cost about the same. So I IMed her and we scheduled a trade for tomorrow. I, however, am having a little bit of pre-partum depression as the nokia 7900 was the cutest, smallest, fastest 3G, tethering dream phone I ever had ;( At least my friend can tether now too.



On a side note this is the second night I worked on work from work till midnight. I think I might be a loser?