Hi,
Over the last month or so I have been rehashing reports about how backwards Russia is on Gay rights. Backwards, my history training tells me, is both a word considered insensitive as well as often heard in reference to Russia. And while smuggling a radioactive agent across several borders to poison a states enemy is pretty hot shit, where as having fat bearded priests gathering hordes of dull eyed ass midgets to harass gay people at a meeting place is backwards. Yes, not permitted to love in public we will fuck on the fringes of society. That is how it works Mr.Bishop. Sorry it happened to be a shrine. Boo hoo.
backwards Russia, backwards.
Say it with me, backwards.
But then, something like this happens and for some reason two guys can have hot oral sex in public with a cheering crowd around them.
And Russia, I have to think that maybe you aren't all bad.
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06/14/2007 21:04 #39662
Oh Mother Russia, I Take it All Back!06/14/2007 14:38 #39658
The GoonsI love Metafilter.
It means that if I find a good link I can waste the better part of an afternoon. In this case though, it was a comment on a question in which the person didn't know what he was talking about. An irrelevant introduction to what I am talking about: the goons.
Before there was Money Python there were (WIKIPEDIA - The_Goon_Show). A comedic trio, deadpan BBC announcer, and a live band. The show was broadcast before a live audience on radio in the early 1950's and had a very brief incarnation as a TV program.
The show lives on the sort of absurd puns that made Python iconic and which influenced generations of comedians. For example:
There is the reoccurring villain the Red Bladder. Or in the riding hood sketch a nervous elderly noblewoman asks her stage coach driver "where are we" to which he replies "Riding in a coach madam." Which, on its own isn't that funny but each line in the show is a rhythm of set up and punch line. The collective chuckle of each mediocre joke gets a weigh of immense hilarity. It is the sort of writing and performance that is at a break neck pace. You wonder how the heck anyone could have the stamina to do this.
The three principle comedians involved are Spike Milligan, Harry Secombe, and Peter Sellers of Being There and [i]Pink Panther[i] fame.
The show makes heavy use of special effects. The sort of sureal noises created in a lab and used in really strange context. Stranger still are the various voices the actors use. A beloved retarded man who when asked a question replies "hold on, I have it written down on a piece of paper" even when asked 'what time is it' or 'who are you?' it is a reoccurring character. You just wet yourself when you hear it.
And you should hear it. There is a streaming podcast, which is getting me through work today. Check it out.
It means that if I find a good link I can waste the better part of an afternoon. In this case though, it was a comment on a question in which the person didn't know what he was talking about. An irrelevant introduction to what I am talking about: the goons.
Before there was Money Python there were (WIKIPEDIA - The_Goon_Show). A comedic trio, deadpan BBC announcer, and a live band. The show was broadcast before a live audience on radio in the early 1950's and had a very brief incarnation as a TV program.
The show lives on the sort of absurd puns that made Python iconic and which influenced generations of comedians. For example:
There is the reoccurring villain the Red Bladder. Or in the riding hood sketch a nervous elderly noblewoman asks her stage coach driver "where are we" to which he replies "Riding in a coach madam." Which, on its own isn't that funny but each line in the show is a rhythm of set up and punch line. The collective chuckle of each mediocre joke gets a weigh of immense hilarity. It is the sort of writing and performance that is at a break neck pace. You wonder how the heck anyone could have the stamina to do this.
The three principle comedians involved are Spike Milligan, Harry Secombe, and Peter Sellers of Being There and [i]Pink Panther[i] fame.
The show makes heavy use of special effects. The sort of sureal noises created in a lab and used in really strange context. Stranger still are the various voices the actors use. A beloved retarded man who when asked a question replies "hold on, I have it written down on a piece of paper" even when asked 'what time is it' or 'who are you?' it is a reoccurring character. You just wet yourself when you hear it.
And you should hear it. There is a streaming podcast, which is getting me through work today. Check it out.
06/13/2007 10:18 #39635
Zombie TV makes me happyHowdy,
Doesn't talking about tax bases and city planning just get your week off to a lovely start? And now for something completely different....
its
James Burke.
One of my favorite TV shows has been posted on youtube until some copyright privateer ruins the party. Connections by and staring James Burke was a BBC show in which Burke began with something very simple and shows how that one invention was a trigger for immense historical change. I have a few books from grad school all about such triggers, and let me tell you, James Burke delivers it in a much more enjoyable way.
For example.
In one episode he shows a village square full of medieval peasants laughing, feasting, playing music, and dancing. The camera angle is from the ground looking straight up and Burke says "Now, I want you to do me a favor, look up the ladies dresses. Yup, that is right, the trigger for historical change is frilly knickers" and 20 minutes in the program later you have the computer.
The show is wonderful. When/if I become a social studies teacher I hope to do a James Burke routine with a few topics. Hear that? He is inspirational. That is a damn good show.
Anyway, here is the first part of the first episode. All of them are on youtube, all of them are cut up into five, ten minute bits. All are wonderful. Enjoy them while you can.
Doesn't talking about tax bases and city planning just get your week off to a lovely start? And now for something completely different....
its
James Burke.
One of my favorite TV shows has been posted on youtube until some copyright privateer ruins the party. Connections by and staring James Burke was a BBC show in which Burke began with something very simple and shows how that one invention was a trigger for immense historical change. I have a few books from grad school all about such triggers, and let me tell you, James Burke delivers it in a much more enjoyable way.
For example.
In one episode he shows a village square full of medieval peasants laughing, feasting, playing music, and dancing. The camera angle is from the ground looking straight up and Burke says "Now, I want you to do me a favor, look up the ladies dresses. Yup, that is right, the trigger for historical change is frilly knickers" and 20 minutes in the program later you have the computer.
The show is wonderful. When/if I become a social studies teacher I hope to do a James Burke routine with a few topics. Hear that? He is inspirational. That is a damn good show.
Anyway, here is the first part of the first episode. All of them are on youtube, all of them are cut up into five, ten minute bits. All are wonderful. Enjoy them while you can.
fellyconnelly - 06/14/07 22:50
swedish monarch jokes can get rather racey... i may need some pepto first.
swedish monarch jokes can get rather racey... i may need some pepto first.
james - 06/14/07 15:40
Depends, how well can you tolerate jokes about Swedish monarchs? If you are of a strong stomach then you got it ^_~
Depends, how well can you tolerate jokes about Swedish monarchs? If you are of a strong stomach then you got it ^_~
fellyconnelly - 06/14/07 15:05
you have a BA in history? will you be my bestest buddy friend?
you have a BA in history? will you be my bestest buddy friend?
james - 06/13/07 16:15
Yup, have my BA in history, working on my certification and MA in Social Studies education. It is like a very long dental procedure, but I am strapped to the chair.
And please watch it. James Burke is for lovers.
Yup, have my BA in history, working on my certification and MA in Social Studies education. It is like a very long dental procedure, but I am strapped to the chair.
And please watch it. James Burke is for lovers.
museumchick - 06/13/07 14:21
It sounds very interesting. I can't wait to watch it (the computer keeps freezing when I try to play something).
Are you going for social studies ed right now?
It sounds very interesting. I can't wait to watch it (the computer keeps freezing when I try to play something).
Are you going for social studies ed right now?
james - 06/13/07 14:21
I had the day off when I found these.
I spent four hours watching *_* it was like magic
I had the day off when I found these.
I spent four hours watching *_* it was like magic
fellyconnelly - 06/13/07 13:50
dammit james, why do you have to supply me with fascinating distractions?
dammit james, why do you have to supply me with fascinating distractions?
06/12/2007 00:28 #39620
A post in which nothing funny happensPoliticians don't get me hard.
Oh ya, those young left leaning kids love Obama, and certainly he is spreadable like butter. But no hard on, just limp with missed expectations.
And activists? Unless you want to add Emma Goldman's face to Mt. Rushmore, well, you might as well just smell like patchouli and volunteer for NYPIRG.
But then, there is Kevin Gaughan.
Kevin is not a politician. Yes, he has run for mayor, but not being a gear in the local machine he missed out.
Kevin isn't a 'all wet but no boner' activist. He isn't saving Pandas or documenting the east side as it crumbles into memory. The man has done research, crunched his numbers, has lifted a veil, and he has a plan to stick it to the bride.
This, is The Cost.
A site in which Kevin has tabulated the cost of running the local governments and compares them to a comparable city. The findings are absurd.
It is like this. Decades ago Atlanta was the sort of city you were as likely to find a McDonald's as you were to be having sex with your first cousin. That is to say, it was a place you wouldn't want to live. But as corporations moved down and took the population of New Jersey with them the city grew. As the city expanded so did the city line. Atlanta ate hamlets and villages and all became one big city with a normal rate of web-toed incest babies.
Buffalo never has.
Kenmore is a good place to start. It has 15,555 people living there and six elected officials. Buffalo has a population of 279,745 with 24 elected officials. That means, if Buffalo had the same ratio of people to elected officials there would be 90 members of the common council instead of 10.
The figures in his report jump off the page and makes us wonder just why the hell we are spending so much money on government. How many officials do we need to pick up the trash anyway? If Kenmore were to become apart of Buffalo we could save over $600,000. And that is just dinky Kenmore. Imagine what would happen if villages like Sloan or Brant were incorporated into municipalities? Not necessarily Buffalo, but a greater Williamsville, or Amherst.
How does all this stack up to the comparable cities. This is a real hoot.
What Kevin is calling greater Buffalo has 439 elected officials and 45 governments. Somehow New York City with ten times the population manages to get by with one government and half the elected officials. Indianapolis, which has a similar population to us has 14 governments and half the elected officials.
Gaugen solution isn't as draconian as the research suggests. The hatchet sounds really nice to me, but Kevin is nicer than me. He proposes that local governments each drop two elected officials by attrition, for a total of 84 politicians.
That doesn't sound to bad, does it?
Oh ya, those young left leaning kids love Obama, and certainly he is spreadable like butter. But no hard on, just limp with missed expectations.
And activists? Unless you want to add Emma Goldman's face to Mt. Rushmore, well, you might as well just smell like patchouli and volunteer for NYPIRG.
But then, there is Kevin Gaughan.
Kevin is not a politician. Yes, he has run for mayor, but not being a gear in the local machine he missed out.
Kevin isn't a 'all wet but no boner' activist. He isn't saving Pandas or documenting the east side as it crumbles into memory. The man has done research, crunched his numbers, has lifted a veil, and he has a plan to stick it to the bride.
This, is The Cost.
A site in which Kevin has tabulated the cost of running the local governments and compares them to a comparable city. The findings are absurd.
It is like this. Decades ago Atlanta was the sort of city you were as likely to find a McDonald's as you were to be having sex with your first cousin. That is to say, it was a place you wouldn't want to live. But as corporations moved down and took the population of New Jersey with them the city grew. As the city expanded so did the city line. Atlanta ate hamlets and villages and all became one big city with a normal rate of web-toed incest babies.
Buffalo never has.
Kenmore is a good place to start. It has 15,555 people living there and six elected officials. Buffalo has a population of 279,745 with 24 elected officials. That means, if Buffalo had the same ratio of people to elected officials there would be 90 members of the common council instead of 10.
The figures in his report jump off the page and makes us wonder just why the hell we are spending so much money on government. How many officials do we need to pick up the trash anyway? If Kenmore were to become apart of Buffalo we could save over $600,000. And that is just dinky Kenmore. Imagine what would happen if villages like Sloan or Brant were incorporated into municipalities? Not necessarily Buffalo, but a greater Williamsville, or Amherst.
How does all this stack up to the comparable cities. This is a real hoot.
What Kevin is calling greater Buffalo has 439 elected officials and 45 governments. Somehow New York City with ten times the population manages to get by with one government and half the elected officials. Indianapolis, which has a similar population to us has 14 governments and half the elected officials.
Gaugen solution isn't as draconian as the research suggests. The hatchet sounds really nice to me, but Kevin is nicer than me. He proposes that local governments each drop two elected officials by attrition, for a total of 84 politicians.
That doesn't sound to bad, does it?
james - 06/13/07 00:43
Jessbob: Thanks for letting us know. I will file that under "holy crap this is awesome".
Spitzer makes happy
Jessbob: Thanks for letting us know. I will file that under "holy crap this is awesome".
Spitzer makes happy
paul - 06/12/07 23:14
Jessbob, who has the power to change this. Would residents of places like Kenmore have to vote to be part of Buffalo or would like just be merged by the state or county government.
Jessbob, who has the power to change this. Would residents of places like Kenmore have to vote to be part of Buffalo or would like just be merged by the state or county government.
jessbob - 06/12/07 22:20
The governor actually appointed a Commission about a month ago to look at this and they are having a hearing in Buffalo in the next couple of months. The website is :::link::: and it has a lot of background on local government. If you want any more information let me know. In the interest of full disclosure, I do work for the commission so this is a bit of a plug and I am a bit biased.
The governor actually appointed a Commission about a month ago to look at this and they are having a hearing in Buffalo in the next couple of months. The website is :::link::: and it has a lot of background on local government. If you want any more information let me know. In the interest of full disclosure, I do work for the commission so this is a bit of a plug and I am a bit biased.
metalpeter - 06/12/07 19:29
I can't remember his user name might be ejtower but he is very passionate about consolidating Buffalo into one unit. I think the way that it could work would be combine Kenmore and Buffalo along with the tonawandas. Then as you move away from the City you have Chektowaga West Senca, Depew in some area's across from Depew you have lancaster. If you combined all of those that would make a preaty good Buffalo. After that I'm not sure how much further it should be expanded.
I can't remember his user name might be ejtower but he is very passionate about consolidating Buffalo into one unit. I think the way that it could work would be combine Kenmore and Buffalo along with the tonawandas. Then as you move away from the City you have Chektowaga West Senca, Depew in some area's across from Depew you have lancaster. If you combined all of those that would make a preaty good Buffalo. After that I'm not sure how much further it should be expanded.
james - 06/12/07 11:36
Joshua: The situation is not hopeless. One day the greasy fat necks of our corrupt politicians will swing on ropes tied to city hall. On that day all our problems will be solved.
Paul: ya, you did that just to siphon off my comments you attention hog ^_~
Mr.Mike: As much as the politicians are to blame for being unresponsive to change, the population feels fit to elect the same machine ass hats to office time and time again. It isn't a Republican vs Democrat issue, it is a Incompetent Pork Face vs Incompetent Pork Face. The spirit of the populists should be evoked here.
Joshua: The situation is not hopeless. One day the greasy fat necks of our corrupt politicians will swing on ropes tied to city hall. On that day all our problems will be solved.
Paul: ya, you did that just to siphon off my comments you attention hog ^_~
Mr.Mike: As much as the politicians are to blame for being unresponsive to change, the population feels fit to elect the same machine ass hats to office time and time again. It isn't a Republican vs Democrat issue, it is a Incompetent Pork Face vs Incompetent Pork Face. The spirit of the populists should be evoked here.
mrmike - 06/12/07 10:01
The only thing more frustrating than what Joshua pointed out is the lengths that these bozos will go to to protect what they have now. There's no sense of compromise, working together, any of it. Gaughan got a couple of memorable "Conversations" to be held, that were well attended. The population showed up, but our supposed representatives paid it lip service. Precious few reformers in the rath building, which costs us
The only thing more frustrating than what Joshua pointed out is the lengths that these bozos will go to to protect what they have now. There's no sense of compromise, working together, any of it. Gaughan got a couple of memorable "Conversations" to be held, that were well attended. The population showed up, but our supposed representatives paid it lip service. Precious few reformers in the rath building, which costs us
joshua - 06/12/07 09:53
The financial breakdowns are interesting - our Erie County legislators actually get more benefits and contributions than anybody in the State Assembly, which is old news but is still a damn scandal. After all, the legislators make $40k a year plus "better than elected state assemblyman" benefits for a PART TIME POSITION.
The Erie County DA gets $20k in health care benefits, which is $5k more than the County Executive and $14k more than the pigs in the legislature - is that really necessary?
Actually, the more I look at Erie County the more irritated I get... and in all honesty I feel like our government situation in our area is hopeless.
The financial breakdowns are interesting - our Erie County legislators actually get more benefits and contributions than anybody in the State Assembly, which is old news but is still a damn scandal. After all, the legislators make $40k a year plus "better than elected state assemblyman" benefits for a PART TIME POSITION.
The Erie County DA gets $20k in health care benefits, which is $5k more than the County Executive and $14k more than the pigs in the legislature - is that really necessary?
Actually, the more I look at Erie County the more irritated I get... and in all honesty I feel like our government situation in our area is hopeless.
james - 06/12/07 09:30
Is it a joke? No, not at all.
Sloan is its own town with its own government and is located just south of central terminal.
Brant is some podink town outside of Hamburg.
I am fully confident that Buffalo or Lackawanna could swallow Sloan and Hamburg could incorporate Brant without too much of a problem. Less government, more money for local governments to get out of the red and give back to the tax payers.
dig?
Is it a joke? No, not at all.
Sloan is its own town with its own government and is located just south of central terminal.
Brant is some podink town outside of Hamburg.
I am fully confident that Buffalo or Lackawanna could swallow Sloan and Hamburg could incorporate Brant without too much of a problem. Less government, more money for local governments to get out of the red and give back to the tax payers.
dig?
jenks - 06/12/07 08:31
"Imagine what would happen if villages like Sloan or Brant were incorporated into municipalities?"
Is this a joke? what/where are Sloan and Brant?
"Imagine what would happen if villages like Sloan or Brant were incorporated into municipalities?"
Is this a joke? what/where are Sloan and Brant?
06/08/2007 11:17 #39579
27 Million Dollars of StupidHow much ignorance can $27 Million buy? A whole heck of a lot it seems. In fact you can build a whole museum! A monolith to the perpetual dull glaze that shall keep zombie science at bay.
Specifically, the Creation Museum in Kentucky is what I am talking about. Now, if you care to chime in with the Evolution is 'just' a theory thing, best not read ahead and read a little on just what the heck that science thing is and how amazingly nontrivial something like a theory is.
A dandy little slide show can be found here and boy is it worth it! The second photo is a triceratops with a blanket and saddle. Some poor child is being hoisted on top for a photo op that I hope become regrettable one day. It is worth the visit just for that photo alone.
There is a fun little bit of logic here. Evolution takes millions of years, right? So all those changes we see evolving in life couldn't possibly have explained the difference between a fox and a Doberman if the flood was only a few thousand years ago, right? So god must have built all this genetic variation into the original couple taken onto Noah's ark.
Yup, evolution is too slow in the time frame of the bible, and thus God has something built in. I wish the same could be said for my aging computer.
Another fun moment is how deformed, web-toed incest babies don't spring for from Adam/Eve and Noah and his crew (arrg! Shiva me timbers!) Genetic mutation has, despite all evidence, anything to do recessive traits. Rather, it is all about sin.
You see, mutations are mistakes (it says so right there); mistakes caused by sin. People did not mutate as much because their sins weren't as accumulated or as great (so, why the whole flood thing again?) And, and this is my favorite part, close relatives today are more likely to have mutant incest babies because their sins are similar.
I will give you a second to giggle snort your beverage through your nose.
Look, this isn't about religion. This is about religion throwing on the mantle of science and parading around like a buffoon. Nor is this a Christian thing. I would be snotty at any creation museum be it Christian, Hindi, Wiccian, or what ever. The joke is that willfully ignorant people spending 27 million to give something unscientific a shred of scientific validity. 27 million that could be spent in far more Christian ways like, oh, let us just say, an endowment fund to keep charities perpetually running. WWJD? I hope he would be clutching his belly and laughing right next to me.
good day
Specifically, the Creation Museum in Kentucky is what I am talking about. Now, if you care to chime in with the Evolution is 'just' a theory thing, best not read ahead and read a little on just what the heck that science thing is and how amazingly nontrivial something like a theory is.
A dandy little slide show can be found here and boy is it worth it! The second photo is a triceratops with a blanket and saddle. Some poor child is being hoisted on top for a photo op that I hope become regrettable one day. It is worth the visit just for that photo alone.
There is a fun little bit of logic here. Evolution takes millions of years, right? So all those changes we see evolving in life couldn't possibly have explained the difference between a fox and a Doberman if the flood was only a few thousand years ago, right? So god must have built all this genetic variation into the original couple taken onto Noah's ark.
Yup, evolution is too slow in the time frame of the bible, and thus God has something built in. I wish the same could be said for my aging computer.
Another fun moment is how deformed, web-toed incest babies don't spring for from Adam/Eve and Noah and his crew (arrg! Shiva me timbers!) Genetic mutation has, despite all evidence, anything to do recessive traits. Rather, it is all about sin.
You see, mutations are mistakes (it says so right there); mistakes caused by sin. People did not mutate as much because their sins weren't as accumulated or as great (so, why the whole flood thing again?) And, and this is my favorite part, close relatives today are more likely to have mutant incest babies because their sins are similar.
I will give you a second to giggle snort your beverage through your nose.
Look, this isn't about religion. This is about religion throwing on the mantle of science and parading around like a buffoon. Nor is this a Christian thing. I would be snotty at any creation museum be it Christian, Hindi, Wiccian, or what ever. The joke is that willfully ignorant people spending 27 million to give something unscientific a shred of scientific validity. 27 million that could be spent in far more Christian ways like, oh, let us just say, an endowment fund to keep charities perpetually running. WWJD? I hope he would be clutching his belly and laughing right next to me.
good day
fellyconnelly - 06/09/07 11:07
James: I will now suggest that we take a midnight train to kentucky and liberate that poor triceratops from the evil of those who do not recognize its heratage!
VIVA LA EVOLUTION!
James: I will now suggest that we take a midnight train to kentucky and liberate that poor triceratops from the evil of those who do not recognize its heratage!
VIVA LA EVOLUTION!
drew - 06/08/07 22:09
a few thoughts are on my page.
I might to a longer post about faith/science later.
a few thoughts are on my page.
I might to a longer post about faith/science later.
james - 06/08/07 20:07
Peter: A museum for religion or faith is dandy. A museum that ignores an irrefutable amount of scientific data and turns it into its own magic faery land is lame. Faith can't give a scientific explanation and has no business disguising its theology as such. No, science can't explain everything. But if you put faiths explanations up to the rigors of science then it can't explain anything.
Felly: That image shocked me. Not so much because it was land of the lost, dribbling stupid mayhem, but because it roused the green demon in me and I am next in line to ride it.
Ajay: I think it might be a lamb. And as we all know lamb is for sacrifice and sheep are for fucking. So really, either way that animal should be appalled.
Peter: A museum for religion or faith is dandy. A museum that ignores an irrefutable amount of scientific data and turns it into its own magic faery land is lame. Faith can't give a scientific explanation and has no business disguising its theology as such. No, science can't explain everything. But if you put faiths explanations up to the rigors of science then it can't explain anything.
Felly: That image shocked me. Not so much because it was land of the lost, dribbling stupid mayhem, but because it roused the green demon in me and I am next in line to ride it.
Ajay: I think it might be a lamb. And as we all know lamb is for sacrifice and sheep are for fucking. So really, either way that animal should be appalled.
ajay - 06/08/07 19:24
I like this display: :::link:::
The sheep looks like he's just been caught doing something baaad....
I like this display: :::link:::
The sheep looks like he's just been caught doing something baaad....
fellyconnelly - 06/08/07 19:01
oh my god. I'm not even going to involve myself in any type of intellectual conversation about this. it hurts my brain too much to consider the reality of this place. the only thing my mind can wrap itself around is that it is in kentucky.
that being said....
i want to ride a triceratops.
oh my god. I'm not even going to involve myself in any type of intellectual conversation about this. it hurts my brain too much to consider the reality of this place. the only thing my mind can wrap itself around is that it is in kentucky.
that being said....
i want to ride a triceratops.
metalpeter - 06/08/07 17:20
I will admit that I don't know much about the creation muesum. But I don't think it is a waste at all. Some people belive in science only some believe in Faith only and some people believe in both. Faith and Science are two different ways to answer the big questions. Having a tellascope that can see the stars or having a science muesum is the equivalent to someone who only belives in science to the musuem of creation for the faithfull.
What bothers me is often that people of faith and science often don't understand that there view of the world is done through a different process then each other. The other thing that bothers me is that a lot of people think that believing in creationism means you can't belive in evolution. You can believe that they are both true and work togather. But part of the problem with that is often people have to insisit that they have all the answers and that none of there thoughts are wrong. But evolution and createtism can work togathrer. Here is one example. God created the world then he created all the animals. Then lastly he created man or if you want Adam and Eve. If you look at Adam & Eve literly a snake got them to give into temptation then they saw eachother nude and that is where sin comes from (sort of). Once they had sex they had kids. (this assumes that there was one adam and eve and not multiple ones all over the world). To populate the world one brother would have to have sex with his sisster or even mother. Over time these kids spread out over the world. If you believe in conteintal drift one could even guess that all the humans or what ever they where called lived in one area and when the land split it slowly moved away. As the climate slowly changed people had to adapt or die. That would explain why people where there is bright sun and it is hot have dark skin and why the irish are light skined white.
A second theory (ok it is my way of thinking about things). is that the Bible isn't literal but is figurative. The seven days isn't really seven days it is the amount of time that has gone by since the world was created. So on the sixth day man was made. The 7th day would have been the present day then meaning that god was going to rest and let the world devolop on its own. This man that was created was an animal like all animals but it was slightly advanced. It is kinda like god playing with a chemistry set where he mixes things up and evolution is what causes things to change. It could even be that man when he was created was a step ahead of an ape and had better DNA that could change. We where made in god's image and he isn't perfect so the apes didn't go right. If god is resting and not interfearing this could also be an explaintion for why people do evil things and why bad things happen.
My point is that I don't have all the answers. Science dosn't have all the answers. Faith doesn't have all the answers. So people have to stop acting like there way of thinking is the only right way and there way of thinking answers all the questions and that there is no doubt. If people where a little more open then someday someone might answer all the really cool really tough questions, like why are we here?
I will admit that I don't know much about the creation muesum. But I don't think it is a waste at all. Some people belive in science only some believe in Faith only and some people believe in both. Faith and Science are two different ways to answer the big questions. Having a tellascope that can see the stars or having a science muesum is the equivalent to someone who only belives in science to the musuem of creation for the faithfull.
What bothers me is often that people of faith and science often don't understand that there view of the world is done through a different process then each other. The other thing that bothers me is that a lot of people think that believing in creationism means you can't belive in evolution. You can believe that they are both true and work togather. But part of the problem with that is often people have to insisit that they have all the answers and that none of there thoughts are wrong. But evolution and createtism can work togathrer. Here is one example. God created the world then he created all the animals. Then lastly he created man or if you want Adam and Eve. If you look at Adam & Eve literly a snake got them to give into temptation then they saw eachother nude and that is where sin comes from (sort of). Once they had sex they had kids. (this assumes that there was one adam and eve and not multiple ones all over the world). To populate the world one brother would have to have sex with his sisster or even mother. Over time these kids spread out over the world. If you believe in conteintal drift one could even guess that all the humans or what ever they where called lived in one area and when the land split it slowly moved away. As the climate slowly changed people had to adapt or die. That would explain why people where there is bright sun and it is hot have dark skin and why the irish are light skined white.
A second theory (ok it is my way of thinking about things). is that the Bible isn't literal but is figurative. The seven days isn't really seven days it is the amount of time that has gone by since the world was created. So on the sixth day man was made. The 7th day would have been the present day then meaning that god was going to rest and let the world devolop on its own. This man that was created was an animal like all animals but it was slightly advanced. It is kinda like god playing with a chemistry set where he mixes things up and evolution is what causes things to change. It could even be that man when he was created was a step ahead of an ape and had better DNA that could change. We where made in god's image and he isn't perfect so the apes didn't go right. If god is resting and not interfearing this could also be an explaintion for why people do evil things and why bad things happen.
My point is that I don't have all the answers. Science dosn't have all the answers. Faith doesn't have all the answers. So people have to stop acting like there way of thinking is the only right way and there way of thinking answers all the questions and that there is no doubt. If people where a little more open then someday someone might answer all the really cool really tough questions, like why are we here?
james - 06/08/07 12:31
Zobar,
I am not in the habit of trusting anyone who sticks up for catholicism. For that, I require [link=http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp]the real record[/link] as written and published by the only trustworthy source, Jack Chick.
This entry wasn't about particular groups of Christians, or Christianity at all for that matter. The only group I was gnashing my teeth against were the willfully ignorant. I do have to admire the stance you linked to. Basically, admitting to a divine influence. Not really worried about mechanics. Which is a smart move after that whole geo-centric universive debacle. Rock on RCC
Zobar,
I am not in the habit of trusting anyone who sticks up for catholicism. For that, I require [link=http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp]the real record[/link] as written and published by the only trustworthy source, Jack Chick.
This entry wasn't about particular groups of Christians, or Christianity at all for that matter. The only group I was gnashing my teeth against were the willfully ignorant. I do have to admire the stance you linked to. Basically, admitting to a divine influence. Not really worried about mechanics. Which is a smart move after that whole geo-centric universive debacle. Rock on RCC
zobar - 06/08/07 11:59
I'd just like the record to show that the Catholic Church showed some rare taste in avoiding the evolution issue. The official stance is that God created the world and guided its development, but the precise mechanics and schedule are more or less irrelevant. And I'm kind of down with that - there are people whose entire career is based on doing acrobatics to fit the development of the entire universe into seven days, but for the life of me I can't see why that particular detail matters so much to so many people.
:::link::: with imprimatur.
- Z
I'd just like the record to show that the Catholic Church showed some rare taste in avoiding the evolution issue. The official stance is that God created the world and guided its development, but the precise mechanics and schedule are more or less irrelevant. And I'm kind of down with that - there are people whose entire career is based on doing acrobatics to fit the development of the entire universe into seven days, but for the life of me I can't see why that particular detail matters so much to so many people.
:::link::: with imprimatur.
- Z
james - 06/08/07 11:36
I should have added that this post wasn't even about evolution.
Well, naked human apes couldn't survive here in Buffalo. Sure, we would get through a summer, but dead by November. Technology is our own species peculiar way of evolving. Rather than breaking off into dozens of other species with different amounts of fur adjusted to our climate, we just wear different cloths here than we would in Rio (which would be no cloths, ironically, the same dress code applies in chilly Montreal)
So why does the flesh have to evolve when technology will do it for us? Weird.
I should have added that this post wasn't even about evolution.
Well, naked human apes couldn't survive here in Buffalo. Sure, we would get through a summer, but dead by November. Technology is our own species peculiar way of evolving. Rather than breaking off into dozens of other species with different amounts of fur adjusted to our climate, we just wear different cloths here than we would in Rio (which would be no cloths, ironically, the same dress code applies in chilly Montreal)
So why does the flesh have to evolve when technology will do it for us? Weird.
jason - 06/08/07 11:26
Evolution must be pretty damned slow, after all we still don't have any innate way of protecting ourselves against the forces of nature, or of integrating ourselves into our environment naturally. We engineer everything, and have lost the instincts (and the cool hair!) passed down to us from our Gorilla parents, and our ancestors who lived in the primordial goo. We are in less harmony with our world than any other species I would imagine.
Evolution must be pretty damned slow, after all we still don't have any innate way of protecting ourselves against the forces of nature, or of integrating ourselves into our environment naturally. We engineer everything, and have lost the instincts (and the cool hair!) passed down to us from our Gorilla parents, and our ancestors who lived in the primordial goo. We are in less harmony with our world than any other species I would imagine.
Amen, James. Amen.
No, I would say that the whole of Russia is backwards. The state hates them some homos, and there is always a ton of people to back it up.
Such as when an international group of people working for GLBT rights brought a petition to the Moscow municipal government and a gang of citizen fascists beat the fuck out of them and then the state arrested the petitioners, not the fascist assholes. Following that there have been something like nine stabbings in Moscow of gay people. This is all in the last month.
So, when two guys in some outling town can get it on in public and be cheered, man... that would be like electing a black, muslim, lesbian president of the US. I suspect an Atlantis cruise was in town or something.
Tis a strange, strange world.
would you say then that the state is quite backwards, while the general population is more accepting? or is it just a chance happening that everyone was cheering?