Haha. Just kidding. Maybe.
I just want to point out a few things before I go.
I'm all for political cartoons and irreverent humor in general. I like the way it can keep us from taking ourselves too seriously. Sometimes it makes me uncomfortable - but usually on behalf of someone more reverent than I am.
I am NOT for methodically "testing the limits of free expression" by intentionally lampooning one group's religious leader in a 12 cartoon spread just to see if you can get away with it. Do I think that should be outlawed? Of course not. Test the limits all you want. I wish it could be done more responsibly, respectfully, and/or discreetly than the Danish newspaper chose to do it. But I don't want to impose my moral conscience on them or on anyone else.
If you're a vegetarian and come to my house for dinner I'm going to make damn sure there's something for you to eat even if I'm a confirmed carnivore. Maybe hoping "accommodations" like that could be the norm on a global scale or in the media is asking too much. But can't we at least do that for each other on the strip? Is that really asking too much? Just give each other room to be who we are. (Well, who you are. I don't know who died and made me hall monitor, but looks like it's going to be a very short tenure.)
I'm sorry if I made anyone uncomfortable by stepping into this pissing match. Yes, I was stupid enough to think I might be enlightened enough [inlink]uncutsaniflush,152[/inlink] (I could not agree with you more (e:uncutsaniflush) - good post) to diffuse the situation and point out where "logic" was sometimes built on half-truths. No, I'm not the keeper of truth. But I can recognize when a person or group is provoked, then retaliate. No, the retaliation is not justified, and yes, it may very well be a much "worse wrong" than the provocation. But that still doesn't justify the provocation. Hate has come full circle, and for what?
I wish I could keep my mouth shut and just have my little journal here, but I can't. I have more to say, but no time to say it. I hesitate to post something only half thought-out considering how my fully-thought-out posts have been received, but try to hold that thought until I can finish. Then you can strap me to the stake and set me ablaze.
Interim update (not that anybody's waiting with bated breath) -
Just letting you know I'm taking my two smashed fingers (ya, I managed to smash the other one all by myself) to the beach. In my perpetually preoccupied state I managed to sabotage my night out last night, and I'm having no luck scoring a ticket to Violent Femmes tonight. So I'm doing the only sensible thing and heading for the beach. No more "words of wisdom" from me for awhile. So go ahead - string me up in the meantime and put me out of my misery.
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02/03/2006 16:10 #36638
Coming soon to myspace...Category: last words
02/02/2006 14:23 #36637
books 'n blogsHey, this seems like a good idea. Maybe we should start a book club? If Oakland [inlink]twisted,139[/inlink] can come together through reading books, there's hope for (e:strip). Maybe start with the book (e:theecarey) mentions in her comment to (e:jessbob)'s [inlink]jessbob,136[/inlink] post?
And another totally unrelated news item:
GPS-toting pigeons latest flock of bloggers (WHY am I not a headline-writer?)
And another totally unrelated news item:
GPS-toting pigeons latest flock of bloggers (WHY am I not a headline-writer?)
codypomeray - 02/03/06 16:42
thats a cool idea. books in blogs. you might want to check out the site bookslut. i know its not really what you are trying to organize but its a cool site none the less. definately a good idea a book club for estrip
thats a cool idea. books in blogs. you might want to check out the site bookslut. i know its not really what you are trying to organize but its a cool site none the less. definately a good idea a book club for estrip
02/01/2006 00:44 #36636
owwie!I just smashed my thumb helping my downstairs tenant break into her unit (don't ask). I would take a pic, but it's pretty trivial compared to some peep [inlink]matthew,634[/inlink] injuries. Matt - I hope you've healed completely! No more dishes for you.
I've had a few more thoughts on religion (don't worry! I'm not going to go there) and on negativity (probably will go there - some day). But for now just wanted a virtual xxoo to make it better.
So Steve called tonight. He's definitely the best thing that almost happened to me. I'm glad he still wants to stay in touch.
I don't think I'm going to make it to the beach this week. It's pulling me pretty hard too. So much for living in the moment.
Happy Year of the Dog! Woof!
I've had a few more thoughts on religion (don't worry! I'm not going to go there) and on negativity (probably will go there - some day). But for now just wanted a virtual xxoo to make it better.
So Steve called tonight. He's definitely the best thing that almost happened to me. I'm glad he still wants to stay in touch.
I don't think I'm going to make it to the beach this week. It's pulling me pretty hard too. So much for living in the moment.
Happy Year of the Dog! Woof!
twisted - 02/01/06 23:25
My thumb is looking pretty damn blue. And I do mean that literally!
My thumb is looking pretty damn blue. And I do mean that literally!
codypomeray - 02/01/06 14:35
No Beach this week!!! oh no. cmon you have to make it to the beach. it will make your thumb feel better
No Beach this week!!! oh no. cmon you have to make it to the beach. it will make your thumb feel better
paul - 02/01/06 11:05
"he is the best thing that almost happened to me" - that is screaming, "I want be a teeshirt"
"he is the best thing that almost happened to me" - that is screaming, "I want be a teeshirt"
ladycroft - 02/01/06 03:50
((hug))
((hug))
01/30/2006 22:51 #36635
userpicOk. What's the password for "computer?" It's time for a real userpic. I mean, how lame is it that "computer" has defaultface?
Ok, maybe I don't have the rights to either of these pictures. Still! I seem to recall a conversation about a default initial userpic gallery and someone said "anybody can easily make a custom userpic."
p.s. - I don't' really have it in for (e:Paul), it just seems like it lately.
p.p.s. - omGAWD! Would you LOOK at that dead-on soul-piercing gaze! How could you not love him?
Ok, maybe I don't have the rights to either of these pictures. Still! I seem to recall a conversation about a default initial userpic gallery and someone said "anybody can easily make a custom userpic."
p.s. - I don't' really have it in for (e:Paul), it just seems like it lately.
p.p.s. - omGAWD! Would you LOOK at that dead-on soul-piercing gaze! How could you not love him?
leetee - 02/01/06 01:04
You need to take up a "i need this dvd" fund. It's research, say...
Poor dude looks like Tom Cruise... i swear, that is so gonna give me nightmares.
You need to take up a "i need this dvd" fund. It's research, say...
Poor dude looks like Tom Cruise... i swear, that is so gonna give me nightmares.
twisted - 01/31/06 21:09
That's Steve :::link::: Jobs. If you've never seen Triumph of the Nerds :::link::: on PBS I highly recommend it. I would buy it in a heartbeat but I don't want to shell out $50 :::link::: for a DVD!
That's Steve :::link::: Jobs. If you've never seen Triumph of the Nerds :::link::: on PBS I highly recommend it. I would buy it in a heartbeat but I don't want to shell out $50 :::link::: for a DVD!
leetee - 01/31/06 13:11
Who the heck is that person with that "soul piercing gaze"? I'm not the comp geek in this family! He looks like Tom Cruise, the poor guy!!
Who the heck is that person with that "soul piercing gaze"? I'm not the comp geek in this family! He looks like Tom Cruise, the poor guy!!
uncutsaniflush - 01/31/06 00:02
i changed the computer userpic. i'm an amiga fan and i offer no apologies
i changed the computer userpic. i'm an amiga fan and i offer no apologies
01/29/2006 15:00 #36634
Losing my religionTwo things I firmly believe. One is, no one person can hold all the answers. We may strive to find the answers through science, religion, intuition, drugs, listening to records backwards, or any combination of the above (including science AND religion). But there are always going to be unsolved mysteries, and I personally like that. You might think immaculate conception is inconceivable (pardon the pun) - and I completely agree. But hell, I think the carnal variety is pretty freaking miraculous too. Oh sure, I understand the whole egg and sperm thing - and I see the results of that experiment walking by me every day. Then again, I still find radio waves and satellite TV amazing and wondrous things, so maybe that's just me.
Suffice to say, I think science goes a staggering way toward illuminating the mysteries around us. I love learning about stuff, even if I don't completely understand it. I think I fall into the "glass half empty" view of science though. Seems to me the more we learn, the more apparent it is how much we don't know. And I actually like that too. I'm more afraid of answers that presume to definitively close a topic than of answers that beg more questions. Again, that's just me.
Which brings me to the second thing I firmly believe. Everyone should be able to express their views/beliefs in a way that does not impose or force them on others. I think estrip is an ideal forum for that. I love reading everyone's journal, even when I fundamentally disagree with some or all of what they're saying. If I had "your" upbringing, education, lucky breaks, tragic losses, supporters, dependents, betrayals, triumphs, regrets - hell, even hormones - I'd have a different point of view than I do now. And my point of view will undoubtedly change over time. Your post may or may not contribute to that, even if I don't think it will right now.
Ok, how many of you have already picked your "side" and started formulating your response to my post? Well, that means you've STOPPED LISTENING and I'M NOT DONE YET!!! Yeah, it's human nature, and I do it too. But I at least try to hear the other point of view. If I have a different point of view, I'm free to voice it and I hope you will too. We may agree or disagree. But if we get hung up on "I'm right and you're wrong" or "the group you affiliate yourself with is wrong for these specific reasons, therefore you're wrong" - that I object to.
Here's my plea:
To the scientists - before you respond to a post, test for these criteria. Does your response hold one person accountable for the specific failings of a larger group, and/or make a blanket judgment on a group based on insufficient/contextural data? If so, reformulate. Don't worry - you'll still piss people off.
To the religionists - before you respond to a post that targets any specific group remember this. Sometimes openly being a member of a group makes you an easy target. I personally don't think that means you're automatically in agreement with or accountable for every action of that group. In other words, don't let someone else make you throw out the baby with the bath water. If anyone is a member of a group that comprehensively embodies exactly what they're about, then either they really are a fanatic/extremist, or they're a member of a group of one. So pick the points you disagree on and expound all you want. If a pissing match ensues, I guess all I can say is, turn the other cheek. And I think you know which cheek I mean.
As for the clairvoyants, druggies and reverse lyricists - contact me directly and I'll see what I can come up with for you. ;-)
I've been reluctant to call anyone on this in the past because I hate to get in the middle of a pissing match. Come to think of it, I could use a really long shower right about now. I have a lot more to say, but I already know it will be taken out of context and used against me. So why bother.
Suffice to say, I think science goes a staggering way toward illuminating the mysteries around us. I love learning about stuff, even if I don't completely understand it. I think I fall into the "glass half empty" view of science though. Seems to me the more we learn, the more apparent it is how much we don't know. And I actually like that too. I'm more afraid of answers that presume to definitively close a topic than of answers that beg more questions. Again, that's just me.
Which brings me to the second thing I firmly believe. Everyone should be able to express their views/beliefs in a way that does not impose or force them on others. I think estrip is an ideal forum for that. I love reading everyone's journal, even when I fundamentally disagree with some or all of what they're saying. If I had "your" upbringing, education, lucky breaks, tragic losses, supporters, dependents, betrayals, triumphs, regrets - hell, even hormones - I'd have a different point of view than I do now. And my point of view will undoubtedly change over time. Your post may or may not contribute to that, even if I don't think it will right now.
Ok, how many of you have already picked your "side" and started formulating your response to my post? Well, that means you've STOPPED LISTENING and I'M NOT DONE YET!!! Yeah, it's human nature, and I do it too. But I at least try to hear the other point of view. If I have a different point of view, I'm free to voice it and I hope you will too. We may agree or disagree. But if we get hung up on "I'm right and you're wrong" or "the group you affiliate yourself with is wrong for these specific reasons, therefore you're wrong" - that I object to.
Here's my plea:
To the scientists - before you respond to a post, test for these criteria. Does your response hold one person accountable for the specific failings of a larger group, and/or make a blanket judgment on a group based on insufficient/contextural data? If so, reformulate. Don't worry - you'll still piss people off.
To the religionists - before you respond to a post that targets any specific group remember this. Sometimes openly being a member of a group makes you an easy target. I personally don't think that means you're automatically in agreement with or accountable for every action of that group. In other words, don't let someone else make you throw out the baby with the bath water. If anyone is a member of a group that comprehensively embodies exactly what they're about, then either they really are a fanatic/extremist, or they're a member of a group of one. So pick the points you disagree on and expound all you want. If a pissing match ensues, I guess all I can say is, turn the other cheek. And I think you know which cheek I mean.
As for the clairvoyants, druggies and reverse lyricists - contact me directly and I'll see what I can come up with for you. ;-)
I've been reluctant to call anyone on this in the past because I hate to get in the middle of a pissing match. Come to think of it, I could use a really long shower right about now. I have a lot more to say, but I already know it will be taken out of context and used against me. So why bother.
jason - 01/30/06 19:14
I think you have the most reasoned, honest and intelligent response. It was a really good read.
I think you have the most reasoned, honest and intelligent response. It was a really good read.
metalpeter - 01/30/06 18:42
To be honest not sure. There are so many differant places I want to travel to. I really need to decide whare I want to visit the most and than take cost into account also.
To be honest not sure. There are so many differant places I want to travel to. I really need to decide whare I want to visit the most and than take cost into account also.
twisted - 01/29/06 20:29
Thanks Metalpeter. No worries. When are you going to come out here? I don't have as much room as I did in Alameda, but you're still welcome to stay with me. Take care.
Thanks Metalpeter. No worries. When are you going to come out here? I don't have as much room as I did in Alameda, but you're still welcome to stay with me. Take care.
metalpeter - 01/29/06 19:46
Interesting post I do admit. I'm in that middle group myself who belives both in beliving in a spirtual being and science. I am also a beliver in the balance of nature (diaseses like aids, and famine and floods) are caused by humans throwing off the balance of nature, so lots of people have to die. For people like my self and others who have seen cancer kill people it really sucks. I can understand your relucktance to say anything. Sometimes it seems like AJAY/Jason and Josh's debates have gotton personal a few times. I don't think either side ment to get personal but sometimes heated debates do. On another note it is nice to see you post here since I hardly ever post on your site. I know I really should and I mean to, but I forget, sorry about that.
Interesting post I do admit. I'm in that middle group myself who belives both in beliving in a spirtual being and science. I am also a beliver in the balance of nature (diaseses like aids, and famine and floods) are caused by humans throwing off the balance of nature, so lots of people have to die. For people like my self and others who have seen cancer kill people it really sucks. I can understand your relucktance to say anything. Sometimes it seems like AJAY/Jason and Josh's debates have gotton personal a few times. I don't think either side ment to get personal but sometimes heated debates do. On another note it is nice to see you post here since I hardly ever post on your site. I know I really should and I mean to, but I forget, sorry about that.
jenks - 01/29/06 15:47
hear hear...
hear hear...
I'm your biggest fan here. :(
I think your posts have been as even-keeled and well thought out as anyone's.