Ahhhh, just got back from a long leisurely stint at spot. And Holy Peep Sighting, Batman! I think we counted seven... Myself, (e:ladycroft), (e:theecarey), (e:joshua), (e:jason), (e:salvatore) and (e:decoyisryan). Whew!
And I even have photographic evidence that the mythical Larson brothers do indeed exist: (pleasure meeting you, boys. We'll have to do it again.)
I'm starting to see a trend in Jason's expression...
yeah and for some reason Sal and Ladycroft are totally out of focus...
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01/29/2006 21:13 #23781
Proof of lifeCategory: peeptalk
01/29/2006 13:18 #23780
peepitudeCategory: :)
You know, this place is great.
I love being around mature adults who can argue and disagree but still be friends and respect each other...
I was kind of nervous after posting some of what I wrote about religion etc, thinking 'oh boy what if I offended people'. And then came back to see the debate that ensued...
Maybe I did offend people. But that doesn't mean they hate me.
And I felt a little comforted to think that even if Jason and Ajay are going at it, it's still a civil debate. (For the most part...) ;)
And I like that I don't have to be afraid to say 'no, I don't believe in god." I know most people do believe, and I'm in the minority, and I usually don't bother telling people because I don't want a lecture.
I dunno, this is rambly and I'm not sure I'm getting my point across.
But what I'm trying to say is thanks everyone. :)
It's nice to be around people who can debate like adults and not have it turn into a hissy fit- even when they disgree 100%, it doesn't become a personal thing.
aww shucks.
Warm fuzzies.
I think I'm gonna cry....
I love being around mature adults who can argue and disagree but still be friends and respect each other...
I was kind of nervous after posting some of what I wrote about religion etc, thinking 'oh boy what if I offended people'. And then came back to see the debate that ensued...
Maybe I did offend people. But that doesn't mean they hate me.
And I felt a little comforted to think that even if Jason and Ajay are going at it, it's still a civil debate. (For the most part...) ;)
And I like that I don't have to be afraid to say 'no, I don't believe in god." I know most people do believe, and I'm in the minority, and I usually don't bother telling people because I don't want a lecture.
I dunno, this is rambly and I'm not sure I'm getting my point across.
But what I'm trying to say is thanks everyone. :)
It's nice to be around people who can debate like adults and not have it turn into a hissy fit- even when they disgree 100%, it doesn't become a personal thing.
aww shucks.
Warm fuzzies.
I think I'm gonna cry....
twisted - 01/29/06 21:32
(I believe) inevitably, we will occasionally get derailed. But the important thing is whether we can get back on track again. Sometimes I lose hope - but then I try to hope for the best.
Certain people make the risk of "hoping for the best" worthwhile. Thanks for being one of those people.
(I believe) inevitably, we will occasionally get derailed. But the important thing is whether we can get back on track again. Sometimes I lose hope - but then I try to hope for the best.
Certain people make the risk of "hoping for the best" worthwhile. Thanks for being one of those people.
theecarey - 01/29/06 13:41
ha, yeh, that pops up in my posts once in awhile.. how the peeps speak their minds-debate-spar- and the atmosphere stays positive. I love that here, as in any of my interactions with people.
ha, yeh, that pops up in my posts once in awhile.. how the peeps speak their minds-debate-spar- and the atmosphere stays positive. I love that here, as in any of my interactions with people.
metalpeter - 01/29/06 13:39
I will say this it is easy to talk to someone who you agree with. I don't think and I hope no body takes it personaly. Yes some of the AJ debate does sound personal at times, and it shouldn't be. (kidding) I'm deeply offendend that you don't belive (sarcastic). What makes this place so interesting is that we all don't agree and are all very differant. Hope you keep speaking your mind.
I will say this it is easy to talk to someone who you agree with. I don't think and I hope no body takes it personaly. Yes some of the AJ debate does sound personal at times, and it shouldn't be. (kidding) I'm deeply offendend that you don't belive (sarcastic). What makes this place so interesting is that we all don't agree and are all very differant. Hope you keep speaking your mind.
jenks - 01/29/06 13:33
Yeah, I guess that's what I meant.
Even when it gets personal, it's still among friends.
(I think? I'm still new here...)
And I know my thoughts on war, but I tend to stay far away from that one. And politics too. I just don't feel like I can speak intelligently enough about it, so I stay quiet.
Yeah, I guess that's what I meant.
Even when it gets personal, it's still among friends.
(I think? I'm still new here...)
And I know my thoughts on war, but I tend to stay far away from that one. And politics too. I just don't feel like I can speak intelligently enough about it, so I stay quiet.
joshua - 01/29/06 13:24
It does get personal here quite a bit, especially on the subject of war. But nobody here (at least to my knowledge...) takes any of it to heart.
It does get personal here quite a bit, especially on the subject of war. But nobody here (at least to my knowledge...) takes any of it to heart.
01/28/2006 12:43 #23779
halle-fuckin-lujahCategory: relief
Ok.... thank god that is finally over with. Until next year.
I think it went better than last year, but i hope better-enough to improve on last year's pathetic performance.
There was a lot of stuff on there that I wasn't sure about, but that I knew I had seen studying- the kind of stuff that would have been a gimme if I'd prepared better.
Oh well. Nothing I can do about it now, so I'm not going to stress.
Now I can finally stop thinking about it, and try to enjoy myself a little...
But on my way back I was behind a crappy old beater of a car with a bumper sticker that said 'stay back 300 feet. LIBERAL ELITE on board.' I wanted to ram him.
Ok, shower time, and maybe even a disco nap before I go to work.
Later peeps. It's a beautiful day out there, enjoy your weekend!
A
I think it went better than last year, but i hope better-enough to improve on last year's pathetic performance.
There was a lot of stuff on there that I wasn't sure about, but that I knew I had seen studying- the kind of stuff that would have been a gimme if I'd prepared better.
Oh well. Nothing I can do about it now, so I'm not going to stress.
Now I can finally stop thinking about it, and try to enjoy myself a little...
But on my way back I was behind a crappy old beater of a car with a bumper sticker that said 'stay back 300 feet. LIBERAL ELITE on board.' I wanted to ram him.
Ok, shower time, and maybe even a disco nap before I go to work.
Later peeps. It's a beautiful day out there, enjoy your weekend!
A
ladycroft - 01/28/06 12:58
Congrats!!! Now we can chill like the rock star mamas we are!
Congrats!!! Now we can chill like the rock star mamas we are!
01/27/2006 17:15 #23777
Involuntary insomniaCategory: stress
Not that most people are insomniacs by choice...
But right now I feel like the opposite- I think most insomniacs WANT to sleep, they TRY to sleep, but they CAN'T. (correct me if I'm wrong.)
But right now I DON'T want to sleep (can't afford to, not enough hours left in the the day), and I would be asleep before my head hit the pillow if I lay down, but I have to fight it.
I slept about 2 hours on wednesday (i was on call), and about 5 yesterday. i can barely keep my eyes open, but I fear that I will have to pull the old all-nighter tonight. Which scares me. If my brain is mush now, (i was RETARDED at work today- at one point I thought they were going to send me home [which would have been fantastic]), I don't want to imagine what it's going to be like tomorrow for my test. :( scary. Then unfortunately I have to go straight to work from the test, and stay awake until probably noon on sunday. So 7 hrs of sleep for wed-sun? Man that sucks.
But I really shouldn't complain, since it's totally my own damn fault.
(though I blame work, being sick, the ex, and estrip for my lack of focus lately.) ;)
Fortunately I tend to work well under pressure- we'll see if that's enough to save my ass this time. I wish I wasn't such a procrastinatrix extroadinaire. (though actually I love it. And so I have to pay the price once in a while)
Ok kids, over and out. Time to lock up the computer, put on the coffee, and get to work...
Wish me luck!
(and if you catch me on here tonight, kick my ass!)
God sunday morning can't come fast enough!
Then I can drink and procrastinate and hang out with people again to my heart's content without feeling guilty about it.
But right now I feel like the opposite- I think most insomniacs WANT to sleep, they TRY to sleep, but they CAN'T. (correct me if I'm wrong.)
But right now I DON'T want to sleep (can't afford to, not enough hours left in the the day), and I would be asleep before my head hit the pillow if I lay down, but I have to fight it.
I slept about 2 hours on wednesday (i was on call), and about 5 yesterday. i can barely keep my eyes open, but I fear that I will have to pull the old all-nighter tonight. Which scares me. If my brain is mush now, (i was RETARDED at work today- at one point I thought they were going to send me home [which would have been fantastic]), I don't want to imagine what it's going to be like tomorrow for my test. :( scary. Then unfortunately I have to go straight to work from the test, and stay awake until probably noon on sunday. So 7 hrs of sleep for wed-sun? Man that sucks.
But I really shouldn't complain, since it's totally my own damn fault.
(though I blame work, being sick, the ex, and estrip for my lack of focus lately.) ;)
Fortunately I tend to work well under pressure- we'll see if that's enough to save my ass this time. I wish I wasn't such a procrastinatrix extroadinaire. (though actually I love it. And so I have to pay the price once in a while)
Ok kids, over and out. Time to lock up the computer, put on the coffee, and get to work...
Wish me luck!
(and if you catch me on here tonight, kick my ass!)
God sunday morning can't come fast enough!
Then I can drink and procrastinate and hang out with people again to my heart's content without feeling guilty about it.
01/27/2006 20:05 #23778
response to ejtowerCategory: religion
(I started this as a comment, but it got way too long.)
Oy, this is a huge topic... But I think valid points can be made on both sides.
I don't believe in God just b/c I think it's a bunch of impossible crap. (hell I'm a scientist.) Some big mysterious force that made the universe in a few days? Bullshit. Immaculate conception? Bullshit. Resurrection from the dead? Bullshit. Heaven/hell? bunch of crap. Turning water into wine, no way. and on and on and on. Yeah yeah I know, the Bible isn't meant to be taken so LITERALLY, it's all in the translation, etc. Maybe. But I think the majority of people out there who do believe the bible, believe it literally. I have a problem with organized religion in most incarnations because it brainwashes people... it makes excuses. it justifies things. and punishes other things.
That said, it is maybe a little scary to think that maybe we really ARE all that there is. I mean I'm ok with it, but I think for many people it's comforting to believe in SOME sort of "higher power"- just to think and hope that maybe there's a point to it all.
So religion to some degree is fine with me. If it gives people comfort to have something to believe in, if it helps them cope with hard times, that's great. I think that's what it's meant for. If it helps them cope with things that are just too cruel to imagine otherwise (loss of child, etc)- great. Good for them. And I think most major organized religions are founded on a set of 'rules to live by'. Thou shalt not kill, etc. Most of which are pretty good advice.
Believe what you want, I couldn't care less- as long as (this is the key)- you don't force it on me. My problem comes when religion (or atheism even) is taken to either extreme- the zealots and fanatics.
The obvious extreme is war.... annihilating whole countries/societies/cultures because they don't believe in your God? How fucking stupid is that??
Fine, you believe "murdering babies" is "against the bible". Then don't have an abortion. that's your choice. But don't you dare try to tell me what I can do! And what is mind-boggling is when abortion clinics are blown up. It's not ok to "kill" a bunch of non-viable cells (that are most likely destined to a crappy life since they are unwanted)- but it's just fine to blow up a building containing a bunch of productive adults because you don't like what they do? WHAT?
You think evolution is bullshit? Fine. But don't tell me I can't let my kid learn it in school.
You think it's wrong that I use birth control? Fine, then you can raise my unwanted kids. You think I'm a sinner because i'm not married and I've had sex? all I can say to that is I feel sorry for you, you're missing out. haha.
I don't like FORCING people to believe things. I don't like the concept of "god-fearing". The whole catholic guilt thing. And jewish guilt. And making muslim women cover their faces... a lot of it just isn't decent... It's counterproductive.
I could go on forever, but I'll try to reel it in... I think the bottom line is that religion, like anything else- has to be done in moderation. If it's not for you, great. Yeah, I kind of laugh at people who believe all that god/miracle crap- but whatever. If it makes you feel good, if it makes you treat your fellow man better- it's no skin off my back if you want to go to church. Even I can see the pleasure in sitting in a cool dark stone building and hearing some music once in a while...
All I'm really trying to say is- can't we all just love each other? And sing and dance and hug and kiss and play in the flowers with the angels and unicorns? ;)
Come join the church of alex.
The main tenets-
Be a good person. (i.e. don't kill, rape, steal, etc).
Respect each other- even if you disagree.
Enjoy yourself.
If you fuck up or hurt someone, say sorry.
If someone hurts you but apologizes- move on.
Didn't we all learn this in first grade?
"do unto others as you would have others do unto you?"
It's pretty simple.
Oy, this is a huge topic... But I think valid points can be made on both sides.
I don't believe in God just b/c I think it's a bunch of impossible crap. (hell I'm a scientist.) Some big mysterious force that made the universe in a few days? Bullshit. Immaculate conception? Bullshit. Resurrection from the dead? Bullshit. Heaven/hell? bunch of crap. Turning water into wine, no way. and on and on and on. Yeah yeah I know, the Bible isn't meant to be taken so LITERALLY, it's all in the translation, etc. Maybe. But I think the majority of people out there who do believe the bible, believe it literally. I have a problem with organized religion in most incarnations because it brainwashes people... it makes excuses. it justifies things. and punishes other things.
That said, it is maybe a little scary to think that maybe we really ARE all that there is. I mean I'm ok with it, but I think for many people it's comforting to believe in SOME sort of "higher power"- just to think and hope that maybe there's a point to it all.
So religion to some degree is fine with me. If it gives people comfort to have something to believe in, if it helps them cope with hard times, that's great. I think that's what it's meant for. If it helps them cope with things that are just too cruel to imagine otherwise (loss of child, etc)- great. Good for them. And I think most major organized religions are founded on a set of 'rules to live by'. Thou shalt not kill, etc. Most of which are pretty good advice.
Believe what you want, I couldn't care less- as long as (this is the key)- you don't force it on me. My problem comes when religion (or atheism even) is taken to either extreme- the zealots and fanatics.
The obvious extreme is war.... annihilating whole countries/societies/cultures because they don't believe in your God? How fucking stupid is that??
Fine, you believe "murdering babies" is "against the bible". Then don't have an abortion. that's your choice. But don't you dare try to tell me what I can do! And what is mind-boggling is when abortion clinics are blown up. It's not ok to "kill" a bunch of non-viable cells (that are most likely destined to a crappy life since they are unwanted)- but it's just fine to blow up a building containing a bunch of productive adults because you don't like what they do? WHAT?
You think evolution is bullshit? Fine. But don't tell me I can't let my kid learn it in school.
You think it's wrong that I use birth control? Fine, then you can raise my unwanted kids. You think I'm a sinner because i'm not married and I've had sex? all I can say to that is I feel sorry for you, you're missing out. haha.
I don't like FORCING people to believe things. I don't like the concept of "god-fearing". The whole catholic guilt thing. And jewish guilt. And making muslim women cover their faces... a lot of it just isn't decent... It's counterproductive.
I could go on forever, but I'll try to reel it in... I think the bottom line is that religion, like anything else- has to be done in moderation. If it's not for you, great. Yeah, I kind of laugh at people who believe all that god/miracle crap- but whatever. If it makes you feel good, if it makes you treat your fellow man better- it's no skin off my back if you want to go to church. Even I can see the pleasure in sitting in a cool dark stone building and hearing some music once in a while...
All I'm really trying to say is- can't we all just love each other? And sing and dance and hug and kiss and play in the flowers with the angels and unicorns? ;)
Come join the church of alex.
The main tenets-
Be a good person. (i.e. don't kill, rape, steal, etc).
Respect each other- even if you disagree.
Enjoy yourself.
If you fuck up or hurt someone, say sorry.
If someone hurts you but apologizes- move on.
Didn't we all learn this in first grade?
"do unto others as you would have others do unto you?"
It's pretty simple.
ladycroft - 01/28/06 12:32
Yes, lets’ be good one another.
Yes, lets’ be good one another.
salvatore - 01/27/06 21:47
CHEAP TRICK!
CHEAP TRICK!
metalpeter - 01/27/06 20:22
What upsets me most about differant religons is how they think they need to spread there ideas to you (wait I gotta go there are some Witnesses, and mormons at my door, who else will show up). It implies that since they belive they are better then you and that your beliefs take you to hell. What if there is a god and they are the ones praying to the wrong one. I also don't like that most of them try to control people. Also if you have belifs based on a teachin and not your own tohoughts you tend to look down on others. Beliving is fine but organised religon is verry dangerous.
What upsets me most about differant religons is how they think they need to spread there ideas to you (wait I gotta go there are some Witnesses, and mormons at my door, who else will show up). It implies that since they belive they are better then you and that your beliefs take you to hell. What if there is a god and they are the ones praying to the wrong one. I also don't like that most of them try to control people. Also if you have belifs based on a teachin and not your own tohoughts you tend to look down on others. Beliving is fine but organised religon is verry dangerous.
Jesus that is the WORST picture of me ever - my face is swollen up like a basketball!!!
haha that too... but I think you are trying to make a peace sign?
I'm seeing a trend in flipping the bird.