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03/08/2006 12:09 #21942
Just a noteRE: Why do I feel like no one is listening? Because the reasons some of you give are just plain rediculous.
I am all fdor something happening on this corner, but I see absolutely no reason whatsoever that all these homes and businesses need to be demolished to do it. If these buildings were abandoned, empty, half burned, or unrepairable, then I might agree to a hotel right here. But the truth is, Mobius and the developers would rather ruin lives that fix a few things.
If we let this happen, then we may as well let it happen everywhere in Buffalo. Everyday people buy buildings and then just let them sit and rot. Why does a development company HAVE to do this? They don't HAVE to. All they want is their 7 million dollars. Honestly, I really think they could care less about us or anyone's houses.
Well anyways. It seems there is probably only one thing stopping this hotel from going up, and that's this house. They need 60 feet from the house to the hotel, and they don't have it. And the owner, is not selling this house. Unless this house goes, then there will be no hotel. I fear that imenent doamin might take a play in this house and the one next door if the city agrees to the project. Some say if that happens then I have lost, but lawsuits are a bitch. If they try to force the owner to sell through imenent domain, then I can almost promise you lawsuits will be filed, and this project would be delayed indefinately.
Myabe we do need a hotel. I am NOT saying we do not. We just do not need to destroy all of this end of Elmwood to do it. Where will they shop? Well not on this end. They will go to Auburn and Elmwood. Or allentown. Or Hertel. There will be NO shops other than the overpriced ones in the hotel. Where is this benefiting us or Elmwood?
Jason
03/07/2006 23:57 #21941
I disagreeStores like, Everything Elmwood, Urban, and etc have a real advantage over the businesses in these homes, one reason is that they have big windows right on the sidewalk. They're more inviting because when you walk by you can see what's in the store, and therefore you feel more comfortable walking in and hopefully purchasing something from them.
Have you even read anything I wrote? Have you seen Rocco Termini's design? Seven strofronts, all tenants stay and theres room for more. They will look just as you described.
How many more college students would be spending their beer money at these stores if they could easily see what the place is selling,and who is inside, right from the sidewalk?
Last time I checked, there are many many college students who go to these shops. I have seen them. How many college students will spend their "beer money" in this hotel?
furthermore, think of the parents coming to visit their sons and daughters at the college. Many of us went to college, I went to Fredonia, it was far away enough to be your own person, but close enough that mom can come down for lunch. How many students from Elma, Clarance, Hamburg, Rochester, batavia, and elsewhere have parents coming to visit them at Buff State?
Are you serious? You make it sound like those places are hours and hours away from Buffalo. And as far as I know most students go home on breaks and such anyway. But I could be wrong, you seem to have the answers for that one I guess.
and how many take their children out for lunch at some nearby restaurant, and wander down the street? With a big new commercial building on the corner, this shopping district will look a lot more attractive to visiting parents who may not have ventured down there to shop yet
So where will they shop again? the 2 or 3 possible shops in the hotel? Remember, there is no gurentee that any shops can afford to move in there and if they can afford it, then they will be overpriced as the rent will be outragous. So will these visitors shop at another resturant? We Never Close? Mobil? Give me a break. The shops that do exist on this end of elmwood will be demolished. So we are sending these people all the way to Auburn and Elmwood. Build the hotel there then.
and the businesses would really appreciate visiting parents because they are likely to spend money with their children while in town. A new 4 story building would create a grand commercial gateway, and make this part of the city seem as active as it really is.
So the students and their parents will go eat at a resturant then proceed to Coles and Mr. Goodbar to get drunk? Right...Active? You mean see the wandering puking drunks right? The bums asking for change 24/7?...the crazy people from the hospital?...yeah real attractive. And when they see a seven million dollar hotel there then they will flock to this corner like there is no tomorrow.
It is a commercial strip, that is it's purpose, and if the businesses there succeed and expand, then the area is doing well. If you don't like living on an active commercial strip, move to linwood, richmond, colvin, ashland, or any one of the million Buffalo streets that are residential. the greatest challenge for the city today is for it to reestablish itself as the commercial center of WNY, and take some of the money away from the big box chains, which are trampling our farms and forests as the suburbs sprawl ever outward. You know?
No. Elmwood is not a "active commercial strip." There are people that LIVE on Elmwood too. So your statement is wrong. Elmwood is not a strip mall. If we allow a hotel, we may as well call Walgreens back and offer them the site where We Never Close is. Ok...so Wyndham Hotels is not a big Chain? Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't they International? Tell me to move? I live in this neighborhood, and again who are you to tell me or anyone else whats good for OUR neighborhood? If you love the hotel so much, let them tear your home down.
That corner deserves more, and this hotel is far better than anything I expected, someone is really willing to put some serious money into that corner. it never had a great corner building like some of those in my neighborhood and around the city. this is an awesome step in the right direction.
Don't get out much do ya. Pay attention. I wrote all about Rocco's plan. Whats wrong with it? So far no one has given any reason as to why his design is not worth it. Afterall Elmwood is a VILLAGE not a damn mall. Let them say your house is next and you tell me you want a hotel.
Jason
that's exactly what I was about to say Jenks. It seems like Dragonfire didn't really comprehend a thing I said because he doesn't want to see my point of view.
I understand that you live next door Dragonfire, and you probably won't like the ruckus in your neighborhood. Of course, no matter what, construction, change, uprooting businesses and all this stuff, is going to be a big hassle for neighbors. But please, take one for the team. The city is finally seeing some investment from new developers, (instead of Paladino and the bunch), and we have a fresh shot at working together to make sure that our neighborhoods will get some investment, and get it in a positive way. Don’t just say 'NO!!!!!!' work with people.
It's not like this is out of place, or destroying beautiful architecture. It's a perfectly logical idea to put more density on the Elmwood strip, it's where people want to live and do business, you're lucky to have someone ready to spend millions in your neighborhood. Grant isn't so lucky, and we can't force the guy to change his plans and move there, he’ll just go to another city and figure it's too hard to do business in Buffalo just like his developer friends probably told him.
Yes. Your concerns are valid. But just ignoring/shooting down any viewpoint that isn't the same as yours is not very productive.
I just think you aren't necessarily seeing both sides clearly, since it is PERSONAL for you.
Why do you feel like no one is listening to you? because they didn't sign the petition? maybe it's because they don't agree, not because they aren't listening. Or maybe they're busy. Or sick of hearing about it.
I like Rocco's idea too.
But my primary goal is to improve the neighborhood. Not make sure your rent stays low.
I can't talk about this anymore. I feel like a broken record.
Jenks put yourself in my shoes...how would you feel? I feel lke no one is listening to me, although I think my concerns are very justified.
jason i can't take this anymore.
Just a tip-
if you want people to listen to you, you have to listen to them.
not just scream 'oh fine! let them tear down your house!'
That kind of reaction is childish and uncalled for.
Sorry to be harsh, but I'm getting really sick of this.
We need to talk about this like adults, or not at all.
I'm not doing this hyperbole and sensationalism.
03/07/2006 22:06 #21940
Hotel Shmotel ReplyQ: If Hans Mobius had kept his properties to code and wasn't such a slumlord, then perhaps all the tennants in those houses would have had way way way way higher rent, perhaps even not been able to afford to do business or live there?!?
A: Possibly, but he has owned these properties for twenty years. For twenty years, he has not made a single major repair to any of those properties. As a landlord, he is required BY LAW to keep them to code.
Q: So, the options are for him to sell the property to someone else and be rewarded or continue to be a scumbag slumlord? Neither are attractive. If he ends up in jail because he is a slumlord, what happens to the buildings and the tennants?
A: What would change if he was in jail? The business owners would not go anywhere. They pay rent. He broke the law, not them. The buildings could be better, but also keep in mind that any repairs done to the buildings were done by the tenants. Also keep in mind, that people live in these buildings too.
Q: Does the city take over? What the heck would they do with the buildings? Condemn them and boot out the tennants? Or sell them to the highest bidder and then the tennants would be out anyway?
A: The city could yes. Have you heard of Rocco Termini? read my previous enteries or see my article here: you can scroll to Related Wikinews and see the oldest article at the bottom of the list. Anyways, there is one about Rocco in there and a picture of what he wants to do. Remember Elmwood and Auburn? why not do something like that? He has said that all the tenants and businesses can stay and offers 7 storefronts as opposed to the 3 with the hotel.
Q: Instead of telling me what is wrong with Hans Mobis and him being a slumlord and wanting to sell to a developer that will do things you thing aren't good for you, your neighbourhood and the tennants of those buildings, how about what you are hoping will happen?
A: I hope that Rocco will do what he says he will do. His Idea is what Elmwood needs. What we do not NEED is a hotel. Plus with his Idea, it seems the tenants will get the option to buy.
Q: What is your suggestion in an ideal world? Really, i am not being sarcastic or arguing, i really want to know...
A: Please read my articles as there is too much to type :) But my suggestion: Progress is not demolishing homes and businesses. The Waterfront is progress. The Canal District is progress. The Burchfield Art Museum? is progress. Get the tourists here and then worry about a hotel.
Jason
03/07/2006 16:32 #21939
Another delay...YeS WooHooI want to organize a protest of those OPPOSED to the hotel. We will have signs and a bagel company will supply coffee and bagels if we do this. Anyone who is interested please send me a post it note with you e-mail address and I will send the information to you when we organize it.
Only three residents spoke that were for the hotel. At least 5, including myself were againsty it and spoke.
I will be writing my next article now, but it will take a bit.
Watch WB 49 News at 10 TONIGHT for an update and to see me on TV :)
03/07/2006 09:23 #21938
New FacesMy friend jen, who i have not seen in a year, just got a jo at the resturant. We used to work together at City Grill, downtown. That resturant is part of a few chains. They used to own Ya-Ya's on Main Street, across from the old Marcella's, but it has since closed. I hear none of their places are doing all that great, and I am glad I got out of there before I was out of a job. BTW, I worked at Pano's for two years then quit to go to City Grill. I was there for a year exactly and went back to Pano's where I am at now.
I am glad to finally see someone I know, and like again. It's about time we got some reliable help :)
Jason
I hope you will remember my first comment on this issue. I'm very excited that someone is taking such an active interest in the city. doesn't really matter if I disagree with you or not, this is the court of public opinion, and that's the way democracy works.
I'm so glad another person is taking such an active interest in Local politics. I feel like local politics is what really matters, the game in washington is useless. everything starts locally, the federal government doesn't just pass ground breaking legislation out of the blue, every program is tried and tested locally before the federal government ever touches it. if everyone simply takes responsibility for their own communities naturally the best ideas will reach the top. I hate how most americans just vote once every 4 years and think they are doing their patriotic duty. Local politics are most important.
so again, welcome, check out some of my links, you might enjoy them. glad you are taking part, but I guess your proximity to the project made your participation in this particular event somewhat inevitable.