Even the Buffalo News hates the Seante Healthcre Bill. And for all the right reasons.
"No to Health Bill:"
It's a good article, make sure to take the time to read it.
I don't know what to do.... *sigh* this issue is so important to me, you guys have no idea how many hours I've spent reading about it, researching, calling my representatives, calling and emailing leaders in congress, talking to people, blogging about it, even working with my church on a statement of conscience about the issue.... damn, it really has been like a part time job. I know way to much about the personalities of moderate US Senators who aren't even in my state, and how much campaign contributions they get from the health insurance industry, and who their spouse works for....
Our healthcare system is just wrong, and the debate about fixing it has been disgusting. We have some shady double dealing Democrats in this Senate, and the Republicans have been no help at all... ok, I don't know if you want to hear my rant, because I'm too tired to be careful with my words. I keep struggling to use language you can play on the radio.
What kind of healthcare system do I want to see? Medicare for All !!!!! But that's just out of the question because nobody will make a profit except for the actual freaking doctors, oh that would be awful. We might actually spend money on medical care.
Don't give me that bull about socialized medicine and the magical free market, unless you can tell me this; What value does the insurance industry bring to the system? They're just middle men, skimming off a few dollars off the top (33%) for no reason except to create a few more millionaires in their corporate offices by denying people care. We spend 16% of our national wealth on healthcare, at least 5% more than every other nation on earth.
You're sick? Pay or die. Oh we're scared of 'rationing care', and 'death panels', too bad that's what we have now! They're called "Insurance Companies" they decide what treatments we all get, and how much to charge for them, but they don't even see the patient! Doctors actually have to hire an extra person just to call the 1-800 number for the insurance company to find out if they can treat their patients or not. oh screw it, I'm ranting.
Why not Medicare for All? They tell me that Medicare doesn't pay enough to doctors and hospitals. Gee, no way we could possibly fix that... uh, maybe, raise the payments? Seriously, I bet it's a lot easier to raise the Medicare payments than it is to get the insurance industry to take care of their customers. How about I take my $360 per month that I pay my healthcare company, I give $200 to Medicare to help pay doctors more, and I take the other $160 and put it in my pocket, because that's what I save by cutting out the Insurance CEO who is making a million a month by trying to deny people care.
We also need to get rid of the Fee-for-Service system, which pays doctors and hospitals to provide more care, not better care. This often leads to duplicating tests, expensive procedures, and excessive prescriptions. 'Take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning' is bad for business. Our system isn't about keeping people healthy, it's about waiting to you're sick and then trying to cure you with heroic and expensive medical procedures.
Why is our system so stupid? and why is it so hard to fix it? I'm just watching the Senate in disbelief.
Truth is, it's not that hard to fix. Just lower the age for Medicare, every few years, until everyone is covered. Get rid of the fee for service billing system. And lower the cost of education for doctors so we have enough of them to go around.
Study that graph for a minute, it says that our government pays more per person than any other government on earth, and that doesn't even count what we pay out of pocket for premiums, or what our employers pay into the system. Over all, we're $2,000 more per person than the next guy, which is Switzerland. Yes, it really is that out of control.
And for all that money we get lame results.
So back to the current bills in congress. I don't know what to do. The bill in the House was mostly better, but in the Senate we have a bunch of corrupt senators who are willing to take us all down for their own greed and arrogance. And I'm angry with the Republicans for not even trying to be constructive. I watched the Senate Finance Committee hearings, don't try and pretend that Republicans give a damn about doing anything, they refuse to cooperate with Democrats on principle (that principle is 'you suck, I hope you fail, and bring the country down with you so we can have power back'). Arlen Specter was already thrown out of the Republican party, and Olympia Snowe is probably next if she keeps talking to Democrats.
alright, I'm rambling. I'm not ready to give up on Healthcare Reform, maybe this is just the first step. But I really think the first step should be lowering the Medicare age to 55.
I'll close with the statement on Healthcare from my church.
"We are deeply concerned that medical treatment currently provided in the United States, is beyond the reach of many people.
Our belief is that every person should be treated compassionately. Each of us has unique value, and all deserve to live to the best of our potential. Healthcare is a basic necessity of life which our society has an obligation to provide. Medical treatment should not depend on one's current occupation, income, race, gender, age, disability, or medical background.
Every person will require healthcare at some point in their lives, and should receive the treatment they need.
We seek a more just, sustainable and simplified healthcare solution."
peace
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12/23/2009 09:18 #50641
Healthcare!?!?!?!Category: healthcare
12/10/2009 16:11 #50530
BlizzardCategory: life
freaking crazy. There are cars getting stuck at the end of my street. The snow is coming down, and up off the ground. There's about a 40 mph wind non stop. mmtornow actually went to work today, it took about 20 minutes to travel 5 blocks.
I am not taking my camera outside! Here's the view from my windows.
This is my front porch. notice that it has WINDOWS! all this snow came through a 2 inch gap along the bottom. There's a bird in there now too, and it can't figure out how to get out.
Seems fitting that the world is gathered in copenhagen to talk climate change.
this is not natural. it was 45 here yesterday!
I am not taking my camera outside! Here's the view from my windows.
This is my front porch. notice that it has WINDOWS! all this snow came through a 2 inch gap along the bottom. There's a bird in there now too, and it can't figure out how to get out.
Seems fitting that the world is gathered in copenhagen to talk climate change.
this is not natural. it was 45 here yesterday!
metalpeter - 12/13/09 12:20
Great pictures
Great pictures
tinypliny - 12/10/09 20:22
Poor bird - don't they all migrate south? What is it doing still in Buffalo?!
Poor bird - don't they all migrate south? What is it doing still in Buffalo?!
theecarey - 12/10/09 18:28
wow! That is my cue to now say, "omfg". I am in awe of the porch picture and the one below it.
wow! That is my cue to now say, "omfg". I am in awe of the porch picture and the one below it.
11/06/2009 16:49 #50235
Healthcare Bill Moving forward.Category: healthcare
The Updated Healthcare Bill is about to be voted on in the House, they're voting tomorrow, Saturday.
I support the Healthcare Bill in the House. I wish it did more, but it's a good start. and it will help millions of people.
Here's a sweet breakdown from FCNL, the Quaker Lobby
AARP and the AMA have both endorsed it
that's a good sign. AMA is the American Medical Association, made up of doctors and hospitals and such. the AARP, most of us know, that's for retired people. So I guess we can assume, based on their endorsement that the bill will not 'pull the plug on grandma'.
I'd definitely prefer it over the Republican proposal that was finally released this week.
A key difference between the two bills is that the Democrats forbid companies from denying you based on preexisting conditions. Actually here's an in depth and specific look at what the CBO said about the Republican bill, from the NY Times
well, there's the best analysis I've found so far to compare the Healthcare Bill from the Republicans and Democrats, if you find any better links, hook me up.
Democrats Plan
Republicans Plan
and I'm not going to discuss Republican fear mongering right now because I'm being civil :)
I support the Healthcare Bill in the House. I wish it did more, but it's a good start. and it will help millions of people.
Here's a sweet breakdown from FCNL, the Quaker Lobby
AARP and the AMA have both endorsed it
that's a good sign. AMA is the American Medical Association, made up of doctors and hospitals and such. the AARP, most of us know, that's for retired people. So I guess we can assume, based on their endorsement that the bill will not 'pull the plug on grandma'.
I'd definitely prefer it over the Republican proposal that was finally released this week.
A key difference between the two bills is that the Democrats forbid companies from denying you based on preexisting conditions. Actually here's an in depth and specific look at what the CBO said about the Republican bill, from the NY Times
well, there's the best analysis I've found so far to compare the Healthcare Bill from the Republicans and Democrats, if you find any better links, hook me up.
Democrats Plan
Republicans Plan
and I'm not going to discuss Republican fear mongering right now because I'm being civil :)
11/04/2009 22:16 #50219
war on the environmentCategory: politics
I just wanted to mention this.
the Republicans are boycotting the committee meetings for the Environment and Public Works committee.
That committee is trying to work on the Clean Energy Jobs and American Power Act. That's how we build a 21st century economy so we can start making solar panels and other cutting edge stuff in America. I think that stuff is kind of important. But the Republicans aren't showing up. This is a video from the hearing, notice that the bottom half of the table is empty. The only Republican is James Inhofe, he stops buy for 2 minutes, drops off a statement and leaves. This is the video of that.
one of the things I hate about politics is when people put loyalty to their political party over loyalty to the country and its citizens. I think we should be talking about the environment right now.
This is especially a problem in light of the fact that the World is meeting to discuss Climate Change in Copenhagen in mid December
We need to get our act together.
jenks - 11/06/09 15:41
nice civil informative debate, guys. Thanks. Kudos!
nice civil informative debate, guys. Thanks. Kudos!
jason - 11/06/09 09:55
David,
Again you prove to be a fair guy yourself. My indictment of lefties on this particular theme doesn't include you. A lot of people would have ignored me or changed the subject. If you notice I'm not on here all the time complaining about Dems being bullies, I sort of expect it, they're the majority. I only get pissy is when it's suggested they're being saints.
And you know what, getting back to your original thought that you want things to not be so god damned partisan, I agree with you. One thousand percent. The politicians have things to think about like will I get the best table at the best restaurant? Will I get the most desirable office? How can my friends get their palms greased?
One of the happiest days in American history will be when we can tell the Middle Eastern oil nations to fuck off. I don't want to deal with those assholes anymore. I'm all about developing technology. I would invest HUGE, HUGE money in developing technology for clean, reliable, abundant, cheap energy. The thought of people not having heat during winter because it's too expensive is just not acceptable for us. Old folks in France dying because of a lack of AC, not acceptable! I'm all about creating new jobs and retraining people who have permanently lost their manufacturing jobs. I want us to EXPORT energy. Wouldn't that be a nice change? I want us to be a leader, same as you.
No more entanglements and relationships of convenience with backwards ass countries, or engagement in violence over it. Unacceptable! This is a conservative position, not like the jerks in Congress would know.
David,
Again you prove to be a fair guy yourself. My indictment of lefties on this particular theme doesn't include you. A lot of people would have ignored me or changed the subject. If you notice I'm not on here all the time complaining about Dems being bullies, I sort of expect it, they're the majority. I only get pissy is when it's suggested they're being saints.
And you know what, getting back to your original thought that you want things to not be so god damned partisan, I agree with you. One thousand percent. The politicians have things to think about like will I get the best table at the best restaurant? Will I get the most desirable office? How can my friends get their palms greased?
One of the happiest days in American history will be when we can tell the Middle Eastern oil nations to fuck off. I don't want to deal with those assholes anymore. I'm all about developing technology. I would invest HUGE, HUGE money in developing technology for clean, reliable, abundant, cheap energy. The thought of people not having heat during winter because it's too expensive is just not acceptable for us. Old folks in France dying because of a lack of AC, not acceptable! I'm all about creating new jobs and retraining people who have permanently lost their manufacturing jobs. I want us to EXPORT energy. Wouldn't that be a nice change? I want us to be a leader, same as you.
No more entanglements and relationships of convenience with backwards ass countries, or engagement in violence over it. Unacceptable! This is a conservative position, not like the jerks in Congress would know.
dcoffee - 11/06/09 09:28
Yea, I guess both sides are acting like bullies, I looked up some of that stuff, turning out the lights instead of letting republicans debate offshore drilling, moving meetings, Locking committee rooms :::link:::
Maybe that means there's no place to hide, our government is completely dysfunctional. I'm sick of the game of party politics.
Yea, I guess both sides are acting like bullies, I looked up some of that stuff, turning out the lights instead of letting republicans debate offshore drilling, moving meetings, Locking committee rooms :::link:::
Maybe that means there's no place to hide, our government is completely dysfunctional. I'm sick of the game of party politics.
jason - 11/06/09 08:58
Not every Republican is an Inhofe on the issue. Besides, our Congress is filled with certified big mouths - remember it was Boxer who went all "I got this black group that contradicts what you as a black man say" on Henry Alford at the EPW hearing.
Guys, let's be perfectly honest here, there isn't one single thing they could have put forward that the Democrats would have accepted, outside of a letter-for-letter approval of the Democrat-authored bill. There is no need for debate, or bipartisan shaping of the bill, or for including the opposition. I'm okay with that, you won the elections and have a big enough majority to not have to compromise. What I can't abide is whining about the reaction from the opposition. That takes a hell of a lot of cheek.
David, your characterization of the nature of the Democrats can't be more flawed, it really can't. How about the House rushing a bill through before anyone could read it? How about Waxman dropping a 300 page amendment in the dead of night? How about Democrats turning off lights and locking people out of rooms? How about Democrats more or less telling 50% of America FUCK YOUR REPRESENTATION? That's just a taste, I've got a dossier on them a mile long.
Too many lefties don't think the Republicans offer anything concerning Energy because A) They don't bother to look into it, and B) They don't particularly care to know, they just want to bitch that the opposition isn't bending over and begging to be fisted.
I'm not going to say that Republicans aren't partisan. They are. I won't defend that. That's the nature of our politicians. They chiefly want to consolidate power. But to say the Democrats have been non-partisan, and fair?!? They are partisan to a fault. And fair to who? They haven't even been fair to you and me with their bullshit, particularly in the House. The problem is that people think that by default their partisan position is the only one that could be non-partisan. I can't talk someone out of that, I only can say it needs to be re-thought.
And...again...who cares if not one single Republican votes on things? I don't. You can do what you want with nobody else's approval.
Not every Republican is an Inhofe on the issue. Besides, our Congress is filled with certified big mouths - remember it was Boxer who went all "I got this black group that contradicts what you as a black man say" on Henry Alford at the EPW hearing.
Guys, let's be perfectly honest here, there isn't one single thing they could have put forward that the Democrats would have accepted, outside of a letter-for-letter approval of the Democrat-authored bill. There is no need for debate, or bipartisan shaping of the bill, or for including the opposition. I'm okay with that, you won the elections and have a big enough majority to not have to compromise. What I can't abide is whining about the reaction from the opposition. That takes a hell of a lot of cheek.
David, your characterization of the nature of the Democrats can't be more flawed, it really can't. How about the House rushing a bill through before anyone could read it? How about Waxman dropping a 300 page amendment in the dead of night? How about Democrats turning off lights and locking people out of rooms? How about Democrats more or less telling 50% of America FUCK YOUR REPRESENTATION? That's just a taste, I've got a dossier on them a mile long.
Too many lefties don't think the Republicans offer anything concerning Energy because A) They don't bother to look into it, and B) They don't particularly care to know, they just want to bitch that the opposition isn't bending over and begging to be fisted.
I'm not going to say that Republicans aren't partisan. They are. I won't defend that. That's the nature of our politicians. They chiefly want to consolidate power. But to say the Democrats have been non-partisan, and fair?!? They are partisan to a fault. And fair to who? They haven't even been fair to you and me with their bullshit, particularly in the House. The problem is that people think that by default their partisan position is the only one that could be non-partisan. I can't talk someone out of that, I only can say it needs to be re-thought.
And...again...who cares if not one single Republican votes on things? I don't. You can do what you want with nobody else's approval.
dcoffee - 11/05/09 18:42
I just think most people are tired of the bickering in politics and they want to see people get something accomplished. It's not about what team wins, this isn't football. I feel like the Democrats have been pretty fair, all the amendments that have been considered and adopted, dragging the process out, getting estimates, and making sure to release the text of the bills in advance. If the Republicans disagree with the Democrats policies offer something constructive, don't just boycott meetings. Isn't the climate getting a little weird? Do we want to be a leader in green jobs? I think Americans are pretty concerned about the climate. If you don't like one solution offer another. But we need a government that works right now. In Healthcare the majority of people in this country want a public option like Medicare. It seems like the Republicans are kind of boycotting everything, and it's almost forcing the Democrats to become more partisan.
I'm looking for NON-partisanship.
I just think most people are tired of the bickering in politics and they want to see people get something accomplished. It's not about what team wins, this isn't football. I feel like the Democrats have been pretty fair, all the amendments that have been considered and adopted, dragging the process out, getting estimates, and making sure to release the text of the bills in advance. If the Republicans disagree with the Democrats policies offer something constructive, don't just boycott meetings. Isn't the climate getting a little weird? Do we want to be a leader in green jobs? I think Americans are pretty concerned about the climate. If you don't like one solution offer another. But we need a government that works right now. In Healthcare the majority of people in this country want a public option like Medicare. It seems like the Republicans are kind of boycotting everything, and it's almost forcing the Democrats to become more partisan.
I'm looking for NON-partisanship.
james - 11/05/09 15:25
Republican input would be welcome if they had something useful to say.
We still hear from members of congress that climate change is a hoax and that man has nothing to do with it. It might be difficult to say something at the grown up table when you just babbling.
Republican input would be welcome if they had something useful to say.
We still hear from members of congress that climate change is a hoax and that man has nothing to do with it. It might be difficult to say something at the grown up table when you just babbling.
jason - 11/05/09 13:35
Republican input isn't really welcome. I wouldn't show up either. As I've said before, bipartisanship means effectively fisting someone into submission. Anyway, what does it matter if they don't show up? Not one single Republican vote is necessary for them to pass any type of legislation they choose.
Republican input isn't really welcome. I wouldn't show up either. As I've said before, bipartisanship means effectively fisting someone into submission. Anyway, what does it matter if they don't show up? Not one single Republican vote is necessary for them to pass any type of legislation they choose.
matthew - 11/05/09 13:14
Hmmm, I thought (e:dcoffee) was suggesting that "one of the things I hate about politics is when people put loyalty to their political party over loyalty to the country and its citizens." I completley agree with that.
Hmmm, I thought (e:dcoffee) was suggesting that "one of the things I hate about politics is when people put loyalty to their political party over loyalty to the country and its citizens." I completley agree with that.
joshua - 11/05/09 13:02
"one of the things I hate about politics is when people put loyalty to their political party over loyalty to the country and its citizens."
Are you suggesting that people who do not support a left wing climate change bill are being unpatriotic? What about Blue Dog Dems who are surely going to jump ship on the health care debacle/debate? Are you suggesting that Democrats are never guilty of toeing the party line regardless of public sentiment? Ask Americans how they feel about so-called torture - we generally don't care. Ask Americans about Guantanamo Bay - we would rather keep it open. Ask Americans about drilling our own oil - we want to do this IN CONJUNCTION with everything else. I've just named three issues Democrats are losers on but do what they prefer to do anyway - I could go on.
You are making the mistake of assuming that everything Democrats do is good for the country, and everything opposite to what Democrats are doing is bad for the country. I'm amused at the liberal notion of bipartisanship - libs NEVER look for bipartisan bills, they only wish for bipartisan votes for generally ill-conceived bills of their own. This bill was marked up with no Republican input prior to "deliberation" in committee. What exactly do you expect?
Republicans wanted further cost analysis and Democrats said no - what is up with that? This is tantamount to ignoring vital facts for the purposes of political expediency. Ask Barbara Boxer and John Kerry what the economic impacts really are from the bill - they can't tell you. Democrats will not wait for an EPA study before trying to pass the bill in the Senate. Due diligence my ass! That is, unless due diligence means passing bills with insufficient information or knowledge of the consequences of the bills they are writing.
Personally I don't support any climate change bill with a cap and trade element, similar to the fact that I'd never support a health care bill without a serious tort reform element or government funded abortions. Follow the money, particularly with the climate change bill.
BTW, this health care bill in the House included a giveaway to trial lawyers by offering incentives with a HUGE caveat - do not cap awards to trial lawyers! linky - :::link::: - Democrats are exchanging major political donor support for tens of billions of dollars in wasted taxpayer money. Who is playing politics again?
"one of the things I hate about politics is when people put loyalty to their political party over loyalty to the country and its citizens."
Are you suggesting that people who do not support a left wing climate change bill are being unpatriotic? What about Blue Dog Dems who are surely going to jump ship on the health care debacle/debate? Are you suggesting that Democrats are never guilty of toeing the party line regardless of public sentiment? Ask Americans how they feel about so-called torture - we generally don't care. Ask Americans about Guantanamo Bay - we would rather keep it open. Ask Americans about drilling our own oil - we want to do this IN CONJUNCTION with everything else. I've just named three issues Democrats are losers on but do what they prefer to do anyway - I could go on.
You are making the mistake of assuming that everything Democrats do is good for the country, and everything opposite to what Democrats are doing is bad for the country. I'm amused at the liberal notion of bipartisanship - libs NEVER look for bipartisan bills, they only wish for bipartisan votes for generally ill-conceived bills of their own. This bill was marked up with no Republican input prior to "deliberation" in committee. What exactly do you expect?
Republicans wanted further cost analysis and Democrats said no - what is up with that? This is tantamount to ignoring vital facts for the purposes of political expediency. Ask Barbara Boxer and John Kerry what the economic impacts really are from the bill - they can't tell you. Democrats will not wait for an EPA study before trying to pass the bill in the Senate. Due diligence my ass! That is, unless due diligence means passing bills with insufficient information or knowledge of the consequences of the bills they are writing.
Personally I don't support any climate change bill with a cap and trade element, similar to the fact that I'd never support a health care bill without a serious tort reform element or government funded abortions. Follow the money, particularly with the climate change bill.
BTW, this health care bill in the House included a giveaway to trial lawyers by offering incentives with a HUGE caveat - do not cap awards to trial lawyers! linky - :::link::: - Democrats are exchanging major political donor support for tens of billions of dollars in wasted taxpayer money. Who is playing politics again?
10/30/2009 14:49 #50154
South Buffalo Fall Photos / HealthcareCategory: life
One little note about Healthcare... Right now, it's action time.
Now is the crucial point to make your voices heard. Over the next week big decisions will be made. The Senate needs to feel the heat.
You know why people always break their campaign promises? Because after the election the voters are out of the picture, and the politicians are in fundraising mode. So they listen to the lobbyists and they don't hear a peep out of us till next election.
We can't sit back and hope the politicians hear us screaming through the TV. We have to make phone calls and send emails to lobby and make sure people in Washington Listen to us.
To Contact Congress call this number and ask for someone, 1-800-828-0498 it's toll free, call somebody new every day.
Or you can write to them, type something up and send a copy to everyone. You can look at the letters I quoted in my last post for ideas.
Here are the Senators that may need a bit of persuading.
Joe Lieberman, Connecticut
Bill Nelson, Nebraska
Evan Bayh, Indiana
Blanche Lincoln, Arkansas
Kent Conrad, North Dakota
Mary Landrieu, Louisiana
Susan Collins, Maine
Olympia Snowe, Maine
I know none of them are in our state, but just shoot them an email anyway, that's how lobbying works. You find out who's making the decisions and you target them. If you know anyone in these states reach out and ask them to call.
Thanks,
Now the fun pictures
The House
Tuscarora rd. Cute South buffalo Street that runs paralel to Caz Park.
Love the brick roads.
This is a little triangle park, off Tuscarora
Caz Park Casino
Looking Out
Caz Park Soccer Game
Now is the crucial point to make your voices heard. Over the next week big decisions will be made. The Senate needs to feel the heat.
You know why people always break their campaign promises? Because after the election the voters are out of the picture, and the politicians are in fundraising mode. So they listen to the lobbyists and they don't hear a peep out of us till next election.
We can't sit back and hope the politicians hear us screaming through the TV. We have to make phone calls and send emails to lobby and make sure people in Washington Listen to us.
To Contact Congress call this number and ask for someone, 1-800-828-0498 it's toll free, call somebody new every day.
Or you can write to them, type something up and send a copy to everyone. You can look at the letters I quoted in my last post for ideas.
Here are the Senators that may need a bit of persuading.
Joe Lieberman, Connecticut
Bill Nelson, Nebraska
Evan Bayh, Indiana
Blanche Lincoln, Arkansas
Kent Conrad, North Dakota
Mary Landrieu, Louisiana
Susan Collins, Maine
Olympia Snowe, Maine
I know none of them are in our state, but just shoot them an email anyway, that's how lobbying works. You find out who's making the decisions and you target them. If you know anyone in these states reach out and ask them to call.
Thanks,
Now the fun pictures
The House
Tuscarora rd. Cute South buffalo Street that runs paralel to Caz Park.
Love the brick roads.
This is a little triangle park, off Tuscarora
Caz Park Casino
Looking Out
Caz Park Soccer Game
metalpeter - 10/30/09 18:16
great looking photos
great looking photos
Just like the prescription "reform" passed under Bush. The insurance companies are running the government. It's ridiculous. Good post.
Interesting how it's a dog shit bill that neither the left nor the right wants. The public doesn't want it. But we'll get it anyway.