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02/03/2006 15:36 #33638
On ReligionPersonally I feel that criticism is necessary to validify any concept or theory. I see nothing wrong with a satirical cartoon of Islam. However I know nothing much about that religion. I do know what Baptist think, thanks to my mother who dragged me along with her to church the first 12 years of my life.
Here is what I remember about that. Baptists are simple people. They have very little ornamentation in the church, maybe stain glass windows at the end of their little wooden benches but that's about it. The churches are also simple wooden buildings. There is God's rule, "Do not worship false idols" something like that. That is why Baptists think Catholics are especially crazy with their relics and everything. It is interesting that it is ok to portray Jesus in Christianity but not Muhammad in Islam. I wonder do muslems portray anything? It is very rare for a Christian artist to actually try to portray god, he is supposed to be to brilliant for human eyes.
In my little church they believed that everyone is a sinner and getting baptized washes your sins away. Dancing wasn't allowed but it was ok to use birth control. Gospel music was important and was not uncommon to see an old man slap his thigh in rhythm to the music. Sometimes people would speak out with a personal story and ask you to pray for them. I remember when my teenage cousin cried up in front of everyone because one of her non-Christian friends died and she was afraid they would burn in hell. That was a big threat that preachers loved to talk about, hell fire and damnation. It was ok for preachers to have families. There were other important men in the church called deacons.
When I was a child I remember sitting in a church meeting with my Mama one night. Some man stood up. He was new to the church. He said, "I think my wife here has as many important things to say as I do, I think we should have a vote so that women can speak during these meetings" so they had a vote so that women could speak in meetings. When I got older and more critical I asked my Mama "didn't that piss you off, that you couldn't speak"? She told me that a woman's husband should speak for her. The ironic thing about that is my Daddy never went to church. He always said, "I don't like Baptist." My Dad was raised Methodist. He's told me before that his personal philosophy is "always agree with you mother (aka his wife)" This may be valuable advice for someone who studied anthropology and married a creationist.
Maybe religion is some kind of dated thing that protects family so that the human race doesn't die out. In the industrial and service economies of the world it seems that this is no longer as important as it used to be. I guess that's why the enlightenment started.
The last time I went to church I was an older teenager and I hadn't been in years. I remember the preacher was preaching on tidings and how you should not me a miser and hoard your money away because you can't take it into the afterlife with you. I started joking with my Mama, "you heard what the preacher said, you'd better give me some money"
02/03/2006 03:12 #33637
boredbored bored
please write more
please write more
01/30/2006 15:54 #33634
be there or be squareCategory: artsy fartsy
01/28/2006 17:55 #33633
remember01/31/2006 04:27 #33635
Banned but not for longCategory: information economy
I was just typing a huge post when firefox crashed! ah fuck it. I'll try to remember what I was talking about...
First It was about "Robbie McCauley" I was looking her up because I watched a documentary tonight that included part of her play "Sally's Rape" . I looked up McCauley on wiki but no info. Then I became distracted by one of wiki's features on Dixie, the song and it's history . This article lead me to Foghorn Leghorn and that lead me to a search for "southern dialect cartoon characters." I was also looking up VHS tapes on amazon that I could use for some audio appropriation.
This search lead me to a banned tape called "cartoon scandals" but that was kind of a dead end as that tape is to expensive for me to purchase for audio clippings.
Then I found this article and that lead me to looking up "Song of the South" they say the movie is banned but I remember seeing it in the theater. It was my second movie. Little Shop of Horrors with Rick Moranis
was my first but enough of that scarring. A few months later I must have seen Song of the South. I remember when the little boy gets hurt by the bull because Uncle Remus was leaving him just like his daddy did. Shit. It was heart wrenching. I think this movie was special for my parents and that is why they took me to the theater. It came out when they were children. It's controversial because it paints a happy picture of race relations in the south right around the time when share- cropping had started. As a child I was happily oblivious to the social connotations and completely immersed in the drama of the poor little rich white boys life.
Although this movie hasn't has a legal release (in the USA) since 1986 I read in it's wiki article that it will resurface in a special DVD edition for it's 60th anniversary in November.
My little niece, Kiah is 5 this year, the same age I was when I saw this movie. I would love to video tape her watching this movie and then ask her opinion on the social political situation of the reunited union.
and one last thing,
the folk tales uncle Remus (fictinal character by the way) tells in this movie are a significant part of southern heritage. The question for me is who do they belong to? Jim Crow laws really fucked the progress of the south but at the same time maybe a certain time for autonomy was good to help with the shifting from slave economy to industrial economy. I say that not for the white people though, the whites were the villains and the blacks the victims of that situation. How does one go from being an oppressor to being a friend and how does one go from being the oppressed to being a friend, and just hanging out, you know? Exactly what happened and why is still puzzling 150 years later. I wonder if time helps or does it make things more confusing? If it helps then why is there still these statistical economic inequalities among races? Why is their still a concept of race?
... but what i think about the tales is they belong to anyone who has an interest and just like the mythologies of the bible or the koran are worthwhile so are these moral oral tales. The whole oral tradition thing is slowly going down the toilet since literacy came along. I like telling stories but it's difficult to get a listener and also difficult to learn how to tell a good story. I wonder if my life would be more or less difficult it I were illiterate? I imagine I would have to be more physically active. I'd be even more poor but probably less in debt.
back to Uncle Remus, these tales were recorded in a hard dialect. I can't read them unless I speak them aloud in my head. Here is a link where you can find some info on this archiver that used the Remus character
First It was about "Robbie McCauley" I was looking her up because I watched a documentary tonight that included part of her play "Sally's Rape" . I looked up McCauley on wiki but no info. Then I became distracted by one of wiki's features on Dixie, the song and it's history . This article lead me to Foghorn Leghorn and that lead me to a search for "southern dialect cartoon characters." I was also looking up VHS tapes on amazon that I could use for some audio appropriation.
This search lead me to a banned tape called "cartoon scandals" but that was kind of a dead end as that tape is to expensive for me to purchase for audio clippings.
Then I found this article and that lead me to looking up "Song of the South" they say the movie is banned but I remember seeing it in the theater. It was my second movie. Little Shop of Horrors with Rick Moranis
was my first but enough of that scarring. A few months later I must have seen Song of the South. I remember when the little boy gets hurt by the bull because Uncle Remus was leaving him just like his daddy did. Shit. It was heart wrenching. I think this movie was special for my parents and that is why they took me to the theater. It came out when they were children. It's controversial because it paints a happy picture of race relations in the south right around the time when share- cropping had started. As a child I was happily oblivious to the social connotations and completely immersed in the drama of the poor little rich white boys life.
Although this movie hasn't has a legal release (in the USA) since 1986 I read in it's wiki article that it will resurface in a special DVD edition for it's 60th anniversary in November.
My little niece, Kiah is 5 this year, the same age I was when I saw this movie. I would love to video tape her watching this movie and then ask her opinion on the social political situation of the reunited union.
and one last thing,
the folk tales uncle Remus (fictinal character by the way) tells in this movie are a significant part of southern heritage. The question for me is who do they belong to? Jim Crow laws really fucked the progress of the south but at the same time maybe a certain time for autonomy was good to help with the shifting from slave economy to industrial economy. I say that not for the white people though, the whites were the villains and the blacks the victims of that situation. How does one go from being an oppressor to being a friend and how does one go from being the oppressed to being a friend, and just hanging out, you know? Exactly what happened and why is still puzzling 150 years later. I wonder if time helps or does it make things more confusing? If it helps then why is there still these statistical economic inequalities among races? Why is their still a concept of race?
... but what i think about the tales is they belong to anyone who has an interest and just like the mythologies of the bible or the koran are worthwhile so are these moral oral tales. The whole oral tradition thing is slowly going down the toilet since literacy came along. I like telling stories but it's difficult to get a listener and also difficult to learn how to tell a good story. I wonder if my life would be more or less difficult it I were illiterate? I imagine I would have to be more physically active. I'd be even more poor but probably less in debt.
back to Uncle Remus, these tales were recorded in a hard dialect. I can't read them unless I speak them aloud in my head. Here is a link where you can find some info on this archiver that used the Remus character
joshua - 02/01/06 19:58
The more you post the more I begin to wonder about what the "pre-college Robin" was like compared to the "post-college Robin."
The more you post the more I begin to wonder about what the "pre-college Robin" was like compared to the "post-college Robin."
metalpeter - 01/31/06 19:47
I saw Song of The south. I remember the part about the bull. I also remember the birds singing on his shoulder. There have been some great breakthroughs with Humans and animation being combined toghather so that characters interact with each other. Movies that come to mind are Roger Rabit (wich was huge at the time) and a couple bugs bunny movies. I know there where other movies to. I wonder if Song Of The South was the first one to combine them. I to have heard it is verry controveral but don't remember enough of the movie to really know.
I saw Song of The south. I remember the part about the bull. I also remember the birds singing on his shoulder. There have been some great breakthroughs with Humans and animation being combined toghather so that characters interact with each other. Movies that come to mind are Roger Rabit (wich was huge at the time) and a couple bugs bunny movies. I know there where other movies to. I wonder if Song Of The South was the first one to combine them. I to have heard it is verry controveral but don't remember enough of the movie to really know.
That is what is so odd about Chistiantiy is that there are so many differant forms of it. It is the same religon but the beliefs and practices are differant. I should say there are differant forms of it, that is more acurate.
Haha. Always agree with your wife. That's good advice for any married man if he wants to live a happy existence.