I just got back home from my walk to the bank. What an awesome day for a walk. I would have taken pictures to show you some things but (e:Joshua) broke the digi, and hasn't replaced it yet. ASSHOLE! Anyway, I saw something interesting today - a HUGE vapor trail that arced all the way across the sky.
It got me thinking, what the hell flew across our sky? No Joshy, I don't think it was a UFO so I'm going to preempt you right now. I stare at the sky enough to know that commercial jets leave smaller vapor trails that dissipate eventually. This thing was solid. The best guess I could make was that the vapor trail was left by a C-130 flying to Niagara Falls. I wish I would have seen it - those things are enormous and make a lot of noise.
I remember one day playing golf at the country club in PA when I saw no less than FIVE of these giant planes flying really low across the sky. It was really impressive. They carry tanks, and very large amounts of cargo in support of our military operations, as well as innumerable international aid missions. The pilots fly insanely long missions, not as long as B2 missions but it is probably an awfully boring job.
I also remember something I read in the book Inside Delta Force by founding member Eric Haney. Well, I vaguely remember it but I can give you the gist. It's been a while since I read the book. Anyway you remember our bungled Iran hostage rescue mission around 25 years ago, yes? Haney and his fellow Deltas, as well as some other troops, fuel and cargo, were in some of these C-130s flying to a classified staging area where the US forces would prepare for and launch the main rescue operation.
The guy in charge of the mission was a Navy Admiral, and so he wanted his branch in particular to shine. Generals and Admirals are like this - they love getting credit and getting promotions. So this Admiral employed Navy choppers to ferry our guys from the staging area to the main operational theater. They were completely inadequate for the job. On the way to the staging area a sandstorm kicked up and some of the Sea Stallions were unable to proceed. It was a failure of planning. The mission was aborted, but not before one of the Navy choppers lost control and collided with a C-130, with Haney and his Deltas inside of it.
The C-130 started to explode, and Haney saw that the pilots and a couple of marines immediately were torched. He was certain that he was going to die. Somehow his base human instinct kicked in and he decided if he was going to die he was going to die trying his ass off to get out. He booked it and miraculously made it out before the entire plane burst into flames. Right out of an action movie. Talk about a bad day at work!
Naturally Eric Haney is no fan of Jimmy Carter, even though both of them are natives of Georgia. I guess I don't blame him.
The bums are out in force today. Keep your heads low.
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08/21/2006 14:02 #23674
Beautiful Day RamblingsCategory: potpourri
07/27/2006 23:55 #23670
Unanswered PostiesCategory: potpourri
For some reason I just wasn't able to view the posties that have been sent to me in the last week. So a few people have unanswered posties, and I feel badly about it.
Soo....
1) LC - Yeah I should be able to help you out on that day.
2) Nej - I have your answer - look for something in your e-mail soon.
Last, but certainly not least -
3) Libertad - Thank you for inviting me. As I've said I'm very fascinated. LC actually e-mailed also and asked if I wanted to go, I said yes, but I couldn't because I had to pick up Josh at the airport during that time. Of course, as shit happens sometimes, he didn't actually arrive until 2:30 AM! Terrible. Anyhow I appreciate the thought, and next time I definitely want to check it out!
Soo....
1) LC - Yeah I should be able to help you out on that day.
2) Nej - I have your answer - look for something in your e-mail soon.
Last, but certainly not least -
3) Libertad - Thank you for inviting me. As I've said I'm very fascinated. LC actually e-mailed also and asked if I wanted to go, I said yes, but I couldn't because I had to pick up Josh at the airport during that time. Of course, as shit happens sometimes, he didn't actually arrive until 2:30 AM! Terrible. Anyhow I appreciate the thought, and next time I definitely want to check it out!
08/15/2006 13:46 #23673
My Response to DCoffeeCategory: war
Since I don't want to leave a long comment on his journal, I'll just post my own response like Libertad.
Firstly, before I get into it too far, Hezbollah isn't "correct" about anything. They are stone cold killers. They famously devalue the lives of the people they purport to represent by using them as shields. Their chief goal is to kill Jews and destroy the Jewish state, and their supporters wholeheartedly agree. They are not a good example for anyone who wants peace.
I agree that our abuse of the UN hasn't helped things. They are a corrupt and ineffective organization when it comes to keeping people alive and fed. The UN is famous for not being able to enforce law they write. Today millions are being destroyed, starved, persecuted and tortured, right under their nose, and all we see them doing is sitting at a table with fine china and wine, smiling. The newest resolution is probably the best the UN can do, and it is horribly inadequate. I think (and I've been guilty of this in the past) that the UN doesn't need to be piled upon, rather we should have been more "diplomatic" with our complaints, and worked harder to restore the UN, to make it better. Our choices have not been wise.
I wish that we could live in a world without war, but I am realistic in the sense that war will never cease to exist as long as someone has it in them to spill the blood of another in anger. More importantly, as long as there are people who pooh pooh, make excuses for, and mitigate terrorist bombings and killings there will always be a violent response because people resort to violence especially when the world ignores their dead, looking the other way.
In other words, I think the left has to take terrorism seriously, you have to be appalled by it, as much as the Israel bombings, if you want to see peace in our world. Nobody should make excuses for them. Nobody should gloss over despicable terrorist butcher jobs. If we want to see the end of war we also have to see the end of terrorism as well.
As much as it's the en vogue thing to do in some circles, it isn't correct to say that Bush is responsible for the world's violence. He in fact did not give anyone incentive to kill Jews, Indians, Muslims, Christians, or anyone else - people who hate do not need incentive. People kill Jews because they have gone through decades of indoctrination and hate training. Pakistanis kill Indians because of a long, ongoing territorial feud, among other things that I'm sure Ajay can elaborate on. To suggest that Bush is responsible for all of these things is only an exercise in blind partisan politics, something we all should be above if we really want to solve these problems. Now, if you want to say that the US and others fighting back would cause a bloody response from the Islamofascists, I could agree with that.
The problem for the Democrats is that they really don't have an answer for terrorism. People may not like the Republican response, but what the Republicans are offering (fight over there instead of over here) is a whole lot better than a vaccuum of ideas. I do have my quibbles, especially concerning Iraq, which was only attacked because it was an easy mark instead of a very important terror target. This Gore/Hillary (which I regret, ugh)/Shumer voter can be convinced to vote for a Democrat, but they have to have something other than some kind of vaporware "plan" they talk about (Kerry is famous for this) while bashing Republicans.
The Democrats are largely bullshit artists, doing what is politically convenient, to the anger and frustration of Democrats and Liberals everywhere who want a real anti-war candidate, and also to the frustration of other Americans who see them as appeasers and weak concerning our safety. They need to take a stand and stick with it. If all the left has to offer us is "Well, we're not Bush, we would be doing things differently" then they could very well crash and burn, despite the outrage against Republicans. I want to know what course is going to change. I want to know what Democrats are going to do about terrorism other than complain about every last thing the Bush Administration does. I am sick and fucking tired of this posturing and faking - I want a real plan from them if I'm going to give them my vote. I don't think it's too much to ask for. You, David, in this respect are 1000 times better than the politicians.
Anyhow, the real point here is that in order to see the end of war and terrorism, we need to be realistic in our approach, and we do need to convince the rest of the world that it is a serious problem that everyone on earth has a vested interest in. Us because we don't want our civilians getting slaughtered, and them because they definiitely don't want to experience a "real" assault on their populations as a result of terrorist bombings. It is good for nobody. We can talk honestly about our own policies that exacerbate the problems we see. We can change things. We can be better. We can ensure that we give the Islamofascists little to no excuse for their awful killing sprees. Do I think it is realistic to see the end of war, the end of violence? No, not in our lifetimes, but we can, no we must be honest about all of the problems and replace partisan hackery with ideas that set the end of violence and war in motion. We are the world's leaders, and it is our responsibility to show the world a better way. If we quit and resign war and terror to be utterly unsolvable, we can be sure that our days are numbered. Our lives depend on it.
Firstly, before I get into it too far, Hezbollah isn't "correct" about anything. They are stone cold killers. They famously devalue the lives of the people they purport to represent by using them as shields. Their chief goal is to kill Jews and destroy the Jewish state, and their supporters wholeheartedly agree. They are not a good example for anyone who wants peace.
I agree that our abuse of the UN hasn't helped things. They are a corrupt and ineffective organization when it comes to keeping people alive and fed. The UN is famous for not being able to enforce law they write. Today millions are being destroyed, starved, persecuted and tortured, right under their nose, and all we see them doing is sitting at a table with fine china and wine, smiling. The newest resolution is probably the best the UN can do, and it is horribly inadequate. I think (and I've been guilty of this in the past) that the UN doesn't need to be piled upon, rather we should have been more "diplomatic" with our complaints, and worked harder to restore the UN, to make it better. Our choices have not been wise.
I wish that we could live in a world without war, but I am realistic in the sense that war will never cease to exist as long as someone has it in them to spill the blood of another in anger. More importantly, as long as there are people who pooh pooh, make excuses for, and mitigate terrorist bombings and killings there will always be a violent response because people resort to violence especially when the world ignores their dead, looking the other way.
In other words, I think the left has to take terrorism seriously, you have to be appalled by it, as much as the Israel bombings, if you want to see peace in our world. Nobody should make excuses for them. Nobody should gloss over despicable terrorist butcher jobs. If we want to see the end of war we also have to see the end of terrorism as well.
As much as it's the en vogue thing to do in some circles, it isn't correct to say that Bush is responsible for the world's violence. He in fact did not give anyone incentive to kill Jews, Indians, Muslims, Christians, or anyone else - people who hate do not need incentive. People kill Jews because they have gone through decades of indoctrination and hate training. Pakistanis kill Indians because of a long, ongoing territorial feud, among other things that I'm sure Ajay can elaborate on. To suggest that Bush is responsible for all of these things is only an exercise in blind partisan politics, something we all should be above if we really want to solve these problems. Now, if you want to say that the US and others fighting back would cause a bloody response from the Islamofascists, I could agree with that.
The problem for the Democrats is that they really don't have an answer for terrorism. People may not like the Republican response, but what the Republicans are offering (fight over there instead of over here) is a whole lot better than a vaccuum of ideas. I do have my quibbles, especially concerning Iraq, which was only attacked because it was an easy mark instead of a very important terror target. This Gore/Hillary (which I regret, ugh)/Shumer voter can be convinced to vote for a Democrat, but they have to have something other than some kind of vaporware "plan" they talk about (Kerry is famous for this) while bashing Republicans.
The Democrats are largely bullshit artists, doing what is politically convenient, to the anger and frustration of Democrats and Liberals everywhere who want a real anti-war candidate, and also to the frustration of other Americans who see them as appeasers and weak concerning our safety. They need to take a stand and stick with it. If all the left has to offer us is "Well, we're not Bush, we would be doing things differently" then they could very well crash and burn, despite the outrage against Republicans. I want to know what course is going to change. I want to know what Democrats are going to do about terrorism other than complain about every last thing the Bush Administration does. I am sick and fucking tired of this posturing and faking - I want a real plan from them if I'm going to give them my vote. I don't think it's too much to ask for. You, David, in this respect are 1000 times better than the politicians.
Anyhow, the real point here is that in order to see the end of war and terrorism, we need to be realistic in our approach, and we do need to convince the rest of the world that it is a serious problem that everyone on earth has a vested interest in. Us because we don't want our civilians getting slaughtered, and them because they definiitely don't want to experience a "real" assault on their populations as a result of terrorist bombings. It is good for nobody. We can talk honestly about our own policies that exacerbate the problems we see. We can change things. We can be better. We can ensure that we give the Islamofascists little to no excuse for their awful killing sprees. Do I think it is realistic to see the end of war, the end of violence? No, not in our lifetimes, but we can, no we must be honest about all of the problems and replace partisan hackery with ideas that set the end of violence and war in motion. We are the world's leaders, and it is our responsibility to show the world a better way. If we quit and resign war and terror to be utterly unsolvable, we can be sure that our days are numbered. Our lives depend on it.
dcoffee - 08/17/06 00:45
Great points Jason
First I want to mention that I am not a pacifist, I know that sometimes military action is needed to create peace. To last example of this was World War 2, perhaps the first Gulf War. I know we cannot disarm because somebody else will inevitably develop weapons.
What I am saying is that a proactive military and a policy of preemptive war does not lead toward security. It simply encourages retaliation and perpetuates the cycle of violence and revenge.
We need to put bad people on trial, to show why they are truly bad and why we are the good guys for stopping them. Bombing an entire city to kill some people that we have labeled terrorists does not prove that the United States is a just country, nor does it prove that the ‘terrorist’ disserved to die. Instead, it proves that we do not care about their people, and that the terrorists were right to build up an army to defend their people from the US.
I’m not sure about your claim that Hezbollah uses people as human shields. It is easy for a right wing radio host to say this in a fit of argument, but they may not have any proof. They are likely to assume that all terrorists are beasts, and may be making wild claims based on that assumption. I would like to see some proof of this before I take it as a fair measure of the character of Hezbollah.
Also I’m not a Democrat, I hope they win in November but I do not think that their party is much better than the Republicans. I think the two party system has run its course in America, and it’s time to move toward a more representative democracy that uses Instant Runoff Voting and therefore has more parties.
The classification of “conservative†and “liberal†is much too simplified. I think we have at least 4 parties in this country. The most substantial party split can be seen within the conservatives. You have Neo-cons, who love deficits war and corporate welfare, and then you have fiscal conservatives that are concerned with a balanced budget, market competition, and personal liberty. Very different but both are lumped under the term “Republicanâ€
As for a war strategy, I don’t think it is wise to try and hold Iraq together, there are 3 separate cultures living within borders that we drew after WWII. They want self governance, they are emerging from centuries of colonial rule and they want their own independence. Our best plan of action would be to enable a peaceful 3 state transition in Iraq. Might not be so great for our short term interests, but bringing the world back from the brink of World War 3 is more important.
“We are the world's leaders, and it is our responsibility to show the world a better way.â€
Very insightful, we had been doing this by relying on Human Rights and international law. Preemptive war is not a better way.
Great points Jason
First I want to mention that I am not a pacifist, I know that sometimes military action is needed to create peace. To last example of this was World War 2, perhaps the first Gulf War. I know we cannot disarm because somebody else will inevitably develop weapons.
What I am saying is that a proactive military and a policy of preemptive war does not lead toward security. It simply encourages retaliation and perpetuates the cycle of violence and revenge.
We need to put bad people on trial, to show why they are truly bad and why we are the good guys for stopping them. Bombing an entire city to kill some people that we have labeled terrorists does not prove that the United States is a just country, nor does it prove that the ‘terrorist’ disserved to die. Instead, it proves that we do not care about their people, and that the terrorists were right to build up an army to defend their people from the US.
I’m not sure about your claim that Hezbollah uses people as human shields. It is easy for a right wing radio host to say this in a fit of argument, but they may not have any proof. They are likely to assume that all terrorists are beasts, and may be making wild claims based on that assumption. I would like to see some proof of this before I take it as a fair measure of the character of Hezbollah.
Also I’m not a Democrat, I hope they win in November but I do not think that their party is much better than the Republicans. I think the two party system has run its course in America, and it’s time to move toward a more representative democracy that uses Instant Runoff Voting and therefore has more parties.
The classification of “conservative†and “liberal†is much too simplified. I think we have at least 4 parties in this country. The most substantial party split can be seen within the conservatives. You have Neo-cons, who love deficits war and corporate welfare, and then you have fiscal conservatives that are concerned with a balanced budget, market competition, and personal liberty. Very different but both are lumped under the term “Republicanâ€
As for a war strategy, I don’t think it is wise to try and hold Iraq together, there are 3 separate cultures living within borders that we drew after WWII. They want self governance, they are emerging from centuries of colonial rule and they want their own independence. Our best plan of action would be to enable a peaceful 3 state transition in Iraq. Might not be so great for our short term interests, but bringing the world back from the brink of World War 3 is more important.
“We are the world's leaders, and it is our responsibility to show the world a better way.â€
Very insightful, we had been doing this by relying on Human Rights and international law. Preemptive war is not a better way.
dcoffee - 08/16/06 23:55
Jason, I just typed 3 friggen paragraphs and my computer restarted. Reply comming soon.
Jason, I just typed 3 friggen paragraphs and my computer restarted. Reply comming soon.
metalpeter - 08/15/06 20:15
I have heard it said the the Republicans are the party of Bad ideas and the Democrats and the party of No ideas and you post does say that and I must agree with you there.
I aslo think that the UN has been run badily and as you said just sat by and watched Genocides happen. Us going to the UN then going counter to what they said may have Killed any creditablity they had. If the UN worked the way it should when we invaded then UN Troops would Have had guns on us and said I don't think so we said NO!! But That UN wouldn't let genocides happen either. I think race has a lot to do with it. If it would have been a European Country doing it then it would have been big deal but africans who gives a fuck.
I think Bush has made things worse in the Middle East, but they were allready preaty fucked up. I don't like the guy but it isn't all his fault. I was going to say more but I forgot my next point.
I have heard it said the the Republicans are the party of Bad ideas and the Democrats and the party of No ideas and you post does say that and I must agree with you there.
I aslo think that the UN has been run badily and as you said just sat by and watched Genocides happen. Us going to the UN then going counter to what they said may have Killed any creditablity they had. If the UN worked the way it should when we invaded then UN Troops would Have had guns on us and said I don't think so we said NO!! But That UN wouldn't let genocides happen either. I think race has a lot to do with it. If it would have been a European Country doing it then it would have been big deal but africans who gives a fuck.
I think Bush has made things worse in the Middle East, but they were allready preaty fucked up. I don't like the guy but it isn't all his fault. I was going to say more but I forgot my next point.
08/12/2006 21:19 #23672
TimikaCategory: phone
My freakin shit ran out of battery too! I literally just got home. Anyhow if you have any other probs or questions regarding Mr. Thick (and not in a good way) let me know.
ladycroft - 08/15/06 14:07
haaaaaaaaa. thanks!
haaaaaaaaa. thanks!
08/08/2006 12:55 #23671
The Sophia of JasonCategory: potpourri
Have you noticed lately that things seem to be moving faster and becoming more intense? Violence, emotions, actions, time.....everything is perceived to be going at a crescendo...but to what?
To better understand, visualize the water poured down the drain. The water swirling closest to the drain appears to move the quickest.
To better understand, visualize the water poured down the drain. The water swirling closest to the drain appears to move the quickest.
libertad - 08/08/06 13:08
yes. are we about to be flushed now?
yes. are we about to be flushed now?
Guess who got two very close eyeballs full of Pinehurst #1 and #2 today? Those greens are NASTY.
First of all it is a great day out. Some of the bums are Ok. But there is this one that I can't stand he is black short hair and little indents in his face. I walked up Brynt as I often do then went to the bank and go to Rite Aid and it looks like he runs at this guy and is all up in his face, but they looked like he they are togather. Some white guy comes out of rite aid and gets in his car and he is yelling Yeah get in the car cause the niggers or was it niggas can't remember are out here. He luckly didn't bother me to much this time. I belive that was on saturday.
C-130's have been flying around Bflo a lot lately. The had a recent airshow in NF too. But I saw the trail too and I think I heard it earlier...if so the sound lasted a long time.