Some are saying i have a "agenda". Not true. Our community and neighborhood is at risk. The way we built Elmwood is going to be taken away. We value the "small town feel Elmwood has. Why is it that we need to tear down VIABLE businesses and HOMES that people live in. Does anyone realize that these peole will be forced to pay around 1000 dollars to move? Does anyone know how much money and effort was put into theses businesses?
The ONLY reason any of these buildings look like they do is becasue they have been intentionally neglected for 20 years. Hans Mobius has made little or no attempt to fix anything in any of those buildings. They would not look the way they do if HE let them get that way. Thoses businesses and residents put their own money into them to get them to look at least halfway decent.
Hans Mobius intentionally neglected these places so he can maake a few million like he will. He does not care about the city or the community or about the peole that live there and work there.
So...there are 4 MAJOR hotels in downtown Buffalo...are they ever filled to the max? I called the Adam's Mark, who were not even open. Called 3 times and all 3 the phone rang 20 times or more with no answer. The hyatt said that usually they never have more than 60% filled at any night. So is this hotel going to work?
Also realize that a hotel is not going to bring people to buffalo. Do you think someone in California is going to say "Hey, theres that hotel in Buffalo, lets go there." Hmmm....Something tells me no.
I am being one sided a little. But the truth is, there are plenty of other places, close to the same spot, the hotel can go...see my previous blog. Why not kiddy corner from the same spot....emty space...nothing there. I am sure the hospital could use the money, if they own the land.
We do not need to tear down anything to build anything...look at the Hampton Inn on Delaware. They used an entire abandoned MORE falling apart warehouse and turned it into that fabulous hotel. These houses and busineses are not falling apart that bad.
We need to really look at this and say, Is this the best thing for Buffalo? Will this benefit the neighborhood and community not only soon but in the long run? Most importantly will YOU benefit from this? Just think about it.
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02/21/2006 10:08 #21922
Agenda?02/20/2006 22:17 #21921
Hopes...I have posted a message on SpeakUpWny.com to spread the word on this hotel and posted a link to the petition. I am waiting on an e-mail from BuffaloRising too see how I can post on there as well. If anoyone has any ideas on where I can send this petition or post a link to it, let me know.
flacidness - 02/21/06 09:17
hello jason from panos this is tk
hello jason from panos this is tk
paul - 02/20/06 23:38
Are you sure Buffalo Rising would be against it?
Are you sure Buffalo Rising would be against it?
02/19/2006 21:45 #21920
Zack's 911 videoI just cannot find the words to decribe. I must say shocking, yet truthful...I will admit that there was NOT a time when I did NOT have chills. I have never seen a more well put together piece of work in my life. And yet as I sit here, I struggle to find yet one reason NOT to believe that video. I am just...well just watch it...its about 1 1/2 hours long but if you like movies, and documentaries, then this is the one....I was glued to the screen and could literally not take my eyes away.
02/19/2006 12:27 #21919
Stop the Elmwood Village Hotel!!!Stop the Elmwood Village Hotel!: (link to online petition...PLEASE sign it!) SPREAD THIS LINK LIKE WILDFIRE!
Informational meeting: Tuesday February 21, 2006, 5:00pm, Burchfield Penney-Art Gallery, Buffalo State College, Rockwell Hall, 3rd floor...
I am a freelance journalist. I write for Wikinews and wrote an article on the issue. It has been on the front page of Wikinews for 2 days now. I wrote the article, interviewed the people and took the picture (both pictures on here too)
Ok everyone. Its time to stop the invasion of the Elmwood Strip again. It's time to come together as one and fight for what we know is right. We NEED to STOP the development of the Elmwood Village Hotel. We cannot let viable parts of Buffalo to be demolished. We need to preserve The Elmwood Strip.
The affected businesses are (that I know the names of): Don Apparel, HOD Tattoo, Skunk Tail Glass and Mondo Video (1109-1121 Elmwood). Residents live in the buildings as well. The business appeal to a large amount of the college students and young adult crowds. It is believed that this is a ploy to change the Strip (north end) to a more "upper-class" scene.
Forever Elmwood's goal for their orgainization is clear:" to preserve and protect the unique and historic nature of Elmwood Avenue and its surrounding neighborhoods and encourage neighborhood commercial revitalization."
This hotel is NOT preserving Elmwood. This hotel is NOT protecting Elmwood. And it does NOT benefit the surrounding neighborhood.
I live in Buffalo. Right around the corner from where this hotel is supposed to be. I live right on Elmwood andfForest and I do not need a hotel. I will never use this hotel. Will you?
They want to call this "progress". Even if it were, how is 80 rooms progress? How is closing seven businesses and forcing residents to move, to build one business progress? 80 rooms....is that really enough to say that "jobs" will be created due to this?
Could we not use "empty space" to build this...like across the street in the "field"?
So much right can be done in Buffalo, and this is NOT one of them. Please STOP this development.
Stop the Elmwood Village Hotel!
(link to online petition...PLEASE sign it!) SPREAD THIS LINK LIKE WILDFIRE!Informational meeting: Tuesday February 21, 2006, 5:00pm, Burchfield Penney-Art Gallery, Buffalo State College, Rockwell Hall, 3rd floor...
I am a freelance journalist. I write for Wikinews and wrote an article on the issue. It has been on the front page of Wikinews for 2 days now. I wrote the article, interviewed the people and took the picture (both pictures on here too)
Ok everyone. Its time to stop the invasion of the Elmwood Strip again. It's time to come together as one and fight for what we know is right. We NEED to STOP the development of the Elmwood Village Hotel. We cannot let viable parts of Buffalo to be demolished. We need to preserve The Elmwood Strip.
The affected businesses are (that I know the names of): Don Apparel, HOD Tattoo, Skunk Tail Glass and Mondo Video (1109-1121 Elmwood). Residents live in the buildings as well. The business appeal to a large amount of the college students and young adult crowds. It is believed that this is a ploy to change the Strip (north end) to a more "upper-class" scene.
Forever Elmwood's goal for their orgainization is clear:" to preserve and protect the unique and historic nature of Elmwood Avenue and its surrounding neighborhoods and encourage neighborhood commercial revitalization."
This hotel is NOT preserving Elmwood. This hotel is NOT protecting Elmwood. And it does NOT benefit the surrounding neighborhood.
I live in Buffalo. Right around the corner from where this hotel is supposed to be. I live right on Elmwood andfForest and I do not need a hotel. I will never use this hotel. Will you?
They want to call this "progress". Even if it were, how is 80 rooms progress? How is closing seven businesses and forcing residents to move, to build one business progress? 80 rooms....is that really enough to say that "jobs" will be created due to this?
Could we not use "empty space" to build this...like across the street in the "field"?
So much right can be done in Buffalo, and this is NOT one of them. Please STOP this development.
Stop the Elmwood Village Hotel!
dcoffee - 02/21/06 21:04
Welcome!! Looks like you have some great things to say.
I must admit, I like the idea of making that corner more dense and urban. It’s a city commercial district, and those retail spaces would be more attractive if they were built to the sidewalk with large storefront windows, instead of tucked away in non-descript two family homes. Those businesses are not being removed, the building will be a mixed use development with first floor retail space. I'm all for preservation but these houses are not unique, sure they have nice paint jobs but that's it. Also I'm sure the businesses of the area would benefit from the additional pedestrians a hotel would bring, local businesses need to be reinforced and I see this as a way to do that.
You do have a point about the empty lot on the opposite corner however, not sure what the problem is with building there. But again it think The strip will gain more from the deal than it will lose.
Welcome!! Looks like you have some great things to say.
I must admit, I like the idea of making that corner more dense and urban. It’s a city commercial district, and those retail spaces would be more attractive if they were built to the sidewalk with large storefront windows, instead of tucked away in non-descript two family homes. Those businesses are not being removed, the building will be a mixed use development with first floor retail space. I'm all for preservation but these houses are not unique, sure they have nice paint jobs but that's it. Also I'm sure the businesses of the area would benefit from the additional pedestrians a hotel would bring, local businesses need to be reinforced and I see this as a way to do that.
You do have a point about the empty lot on the opposite corner however, not sure what the problem is with building there. But again it think The strip will gain more from the deal than it will lose.
joshua - 02/19/06 23:04
I remember reading this before in a local publication (paraphrasing) -
"Buffalo may be a dump, but its our dump."
Its obviously not a great idea, and the village is kind of going in this direction anyway, but I think the fact of the matter is that few people want it, but I guarantee nobody wants it more than the developer. Eyesore schmeyesore... putting in a pretty hotel that few people will stay in is like trying to turn chicken shit into chicken salad. And I know I ain't biting.
I remember reading this before in a local publication (paraphrasing) -
"Buffalo may be a dump, but its our dump."
Its obviously not a great idea, and the village is kind of going in this direction anyway, but I think the fact of the matter is that few people want it, but I guarantee nobody wants it more than the developer. Eyesore schmeyesore... putting in a pretty hotel that few people will stay in is like trying to turn chicken shit into chicken salad. And I know I ain't biting.
paul - 02/19/06 19:56
Here is another online journal talking about this :::link:::
It even has a rendering of what it will look like. Man is it huge.
Here is another online journal talking about this :::link:::
It even has a rendering of what it will look like. Man is it huge.
ladycroft - 02/19/06 15:40
welcome :) i read about this in the artvoice i think...but thanks for the extra info
welcome :) i read about this in the artvoice i think...but thanks for the extra info
jenks - 02/19/06 13:16
I am not saying I am in favor of a megaplex hotel moving in next door. However, it would not be the end of my world if a local video store, tattoo parlor, and head shop had a little competition. I like a "college town" feel, but you have to admit those places are pretty dumpy. We don't need to strive to attract the lowest common denominator...
I am not saying I am in favor of a megaplex hotel moving in next door. However, it would not be the end of my world if a local video store, tattoo parlor, and head shop had a little competition. I like a "college town" feel, but you have to admit those places are pretty dumpy. We don't need to strive to attract the lowest common denominator...
metalpeter - 02/19/06 12:55
If I where going to build a hotel I would buy the building Subway is in and platoh and that lot and then I would rent space to all thesubway or maybe even buy india gate and rent them the space. I think the owner should give all the businesses space in the new place for the same amount of rent he is charging them now but he problably won't. That Hotel Chain is one of the most Prestious Chains in the world so I'm guessing there will be nothing local in there. I think some compromises could be reached but I know that won't happen.
If I where going to build a hotel I would buy the building Subway is in and platoh and that lot and then I would rent space to all thesubway or maybe even buy india gate and rent them the space. I think the owner should give all the businesses space in the new place for the same amount of rent he is charging them now but he problably won't. That Hotel Chain is one of the most Prestious Chains in the world so I'm guessing there will be nothing local in there. I think some compromises could be reached but I know that won't happen.
paul - 02/19/06 12:54
So you have more infromation about this? Or are their links to drawing of the plans/ a list of what will be demolished to create the hotel?
So you have more infromation about this? Or are their links to drawing of the plans/ a list of what will be demolished to create the hotel?
I'm not saying I'm FOR the hotel- I agree it will impact me and I don't think I want it there and I don't know it's necessary or will succeed. But I just think there must be another side to the story...
and the empty lot on the corner (I think) belongs to the psych center and isn't really an option.
Anyway... we're neighbors... I don't mean to be a pissy bitch... Just think all arguments deserve to be looked at from both sides, and I think people should make up their own minds rather than being told to sign on the dotted line without thought.