So, my man
(e:derschlickmeis)ter was in Connecticut supporting Joe Lieberman. Most aren't obsessed over politics like I am so I will provide supporting information for those who aren't aware of what is going on in CT.
Ned Lamont, rich white guy, is running against Joe Lieberman in the Democratic primary and is making hay over Senator Lieberman's staunch support of the Iraq war. This is primarily driven by national left wing activist organizations such as moveon.org, who are essentially hell bent on removing Lieberman from office and are willing to spend millions in donations and grass roots organizing in order to help achieve this. In essence, the national radicals on the left have hijacked the elections for the senate seat in Connecticut in order to attempt to prop up a guy more inclined to see things their way.
Where this gets intriguing is the polling numbers. My feelings on the accuracy of polling numbers is well known, but even these cannot be ignored. Polling suggests that Democrats are split directly down the middle betwen the candidates. However, since Senator Lieberman has said that he will run as an independant if he loses the Democratic primary, polling suggests that if Lamont wins the primary Lieberman will win the Senate seat by a 51% to 27%. Forget landslide - that is a bloodbath. Either way, Lieberman wins, which is truly a relief. How is this possible? If Lieberman runs as an Independant, CT state Republicans are going to bail on whatever New England RINO Republican is running and support Lieberman.
I applaud Bill Clinton for shunning the insanity that is marginalizing his party nationally and supporting one of the only politicians left in Washington that is honest and has integrity. The far left states that Lieberman "isn't really a Democrat" - that logic is hilarious to me and only proves that liberals' collective historical perspective starts at the day of their birth. Ever heard of JFK? There is no Demcrat left that is as close to JFK politically as Lieberman is... Lieberman is more of a Kennedy than Teddy ever was.
Another lefty, Al Gore, refuses to support Lieberman and also refused to support him during his bid for the presidency. The irony is that without Lieberman as his running mate in '00 he would have never garnered the moderate Democrat support that made it possible to be competitive against GWB at the time.
Cheers to the only sane politician in New England.
Are you actually calling into question whether or not MoveOn is left wing? There is absolutely no question. That is like claiming that Sandra Day O'Connor was moderate - the idea is absolutely ridiculous. Nationalized health care, quitting in Iraq, trying to get Karl Rove fired although he didn't break the law, association with Howard Dean and his lunatic viewpoints, outright stating their progressive intentions, the commercials they ran during the 2004 campaign, supporting the right of felons past and present to vote, begging 60 minutes to soften the criticism of Bill Clinton, support for Cindy Sheehan - that is the tip of the iceberg. This is so beyond question as to be absurd.
There is nothing ultraconservative about Joe Lieberman, unless you are a Marxist Berkeley type. You need to put this into proper perspective Shawn - the type of politician he is represents the best of what the Democratic Party *used* to be. Over the past 30 years, the further left that the DNC has shifted the amount of success on a national level they have had has diminished in proportion.
Anyhow, like I said, the polling looks very bad for the libs in CT. Lieberman isn't going anywhere.
hahaha, Leiberman is NOT at all left, democrat, liberal, or any of the above. He's ultra-conservative, socially, and seems as idiotic fiscally as any other republicrats. Kudos to MoveON for working to remove him, although actually I don't think they're opposing him as a major movement, because I'm on their mailing list and haven't heard about it.
And if you think MoveON is left wing... wow. It would be nice to have some leftward representation in the gov't, but that's not likely.
The whole thing stinks. Where do the people of Connecticut fit in the situation? It's a nationwide interest group fuck-fest.
I've always admired JFK and I actually voted for Clinton. You don't know me so you wouldn't know that... similar to your assertion that all Republicans are wingnuts. JFK Democrats made the party great - the DNC would be in alot better shape nationally had they not booted out the Scoop Jacksons of the party.
I'll ignore your Paul Krugmanesque blahblahblahing about Bush lying and the supposed illegality of the things the administration has done. Oh, by the way, I'm still waiting for libbies to win any lawsuits over these supposed illegal activities. The silence is deafening.
Your gross mischaracterizations about Republican support for Lieberman are born from a lack of information about the support. There is no such thing as fundamentalist wingnuts in Connecticut, and the the degree to which right wing fanatics (file that under "all Republicans" as far as liberals are concerned) like Joe Lieberman extends only to a couple points - a) he isn't liberal, and b) Lieberman in Senate is better than a Boxer in Senate. Otherwise, the right wing would obviously prefer a conservative... which in Connecticut is about as likely as a conservative winning the Governor position in New York... aka "fuggedaboudit."
Republicans in CT understand what the voters in Rhode Island don't - that a guy like Lieberman is better than some RINO. Take a look at Lincoln Chafee's voting record and then tell me with a straight face that this guy is a Republican. On the other hand, if you look at Joe Lieberman he's a solid Democrat with consistently high ratings from Americans for Democratic Action. The problem for liberals is that he is not a party line kind of guy if he believes the left wing is wrong. 8 or 9 votes out of 10 isn't enough apparently. Fortunately the liberals will lose this one.
Suddenly our man (e:Joshua) loves JFK, admires Clinton, etc. What have you been smoking, dude? lol...
Isn't Liebermann the same guy who was appalled that Clinton lied about a fucking BJ (no pun intended)? And yet doesn't have the balls to stand up to Bush's lying, which has cost nearly 3000 American lives? Not to mention the illegal wiretaps, unlawful detentions, etc. etc. etc. etc.
Instead of griping about the support that Lamont has from the left, you should be questioning why the fundamentalist right-wing nuts have been supporting Lieberman? Isn't he pro-abortion? Isn't he for gay marriage??