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04/06/2013 23:49 #57469
PrivilegeCategory: ideas
I'm posting these links as part of an ongoing conversation between me & (e:Terry) but also informed by various conversations with/between (e:bluevelevetjac)k and (e:yesthatcasey).
The classic piece by Peggy McIntosh:
A more modern take using gaming as a metaphor:
I heard an excellent piece on The Best of the Left about white privilege but couldn't find the actual story... maybe I'll spend some time tomorrow searching more.
Peace & love
The classic piece by Peggy McIntosh:
A more modern take using gaming as a metaphor:
I heard an excellent piece on The Best of the Left about white privilege
but couldn't find the actual story... maybe I'll spend some time tomorrow searching more.Peace & love
YesThatCasey - 04/08/13 22:00
I'm asking these questions for a reason before I chime in.
I'm asking these questions for a reason before I chime in.
Robert - 04/08/13 20:15
(e:yesthatcasey) since i've grown out of adolescence i see more and more the priveleges i get, or rather, i see what i am afforded because i see what friends of mine are denied in the exact same situations exhibiting the exact same behaviors as myself, while i am allowed to just glide on through jolly as i please thinking life is just peachy. life IS peachy, but sometimes it's not if you aren't a straight white male (or don't have passing status (you pass as a straight white male although you are not one/some/all of those categories)) and rarely, sometimes it's not if you ARE a (straight) white male. which is something i experienced as a child, but mostly for the white part, which if i'm not mistaken, you may have shared that experience. I grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood and went to a predominatnly black school, and i was regular other'd by my friends and classmates. think of any racial slurs for whites and i was called any one, or all of them on any given day with creative additions or variations. There's nothing quite like being told "shut the fuck up, you white cracker faggot ass bitch" i was also very feminine looking.
so i definitely understand perhaps where your frustration may stem from... but having been living in equally distributed or predominantly white neighborhood for the majority of my adult life, i see the differences in treatment and attitude toward whites by whites and men by men, and women by men in any combination of those adjectives, and then the subsequent change in treatment towards non-white men or women by white men or women. it's in the details, the tiny things that we have our priveleges, the small things we're afforded or what's overlooked or accepted...
(e:yesthatcasey) since i've grown out of adolescence i see more and more the priveleges i get, or rather, i see what i am afforded because i see what friends of mine are denied in the exact same situations exhibiting the exact same behaviors as myself, while i am allowed to just glide on through jolly as i please thinking life is just peachy. life IS peachy, but sometimes it's not if you aren't a straight white male (or don't have passing status (you pass as a straight white male although you are not one/some/all of those categories)) and rarely, sometimes it's not if you ARE a (straight) white male. which is something i experienced as a child, but mostly for the white part, which if i'm not mistaken, you may have shared that experience. I grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood and went to a predominatnly black school, and i was regular other'd by my friends and classmates. think of any racial slurs for whites and i was called any one, or all of them on any given day with creative additions or variations. There's nothing quite like being told "shut the fuck up, you white cracker faggot ass bitch" i was also very feminine looking.
so i definitely understand perhaps where your frustration may stem from... but having been living in equally distributed or predominantly white neighborhood for the majority of my adult life, i see the differences in treatment and attitude toward whites by whites and men by men, and women by men in any combination of those adjectives, and then the subsequent change in treatment towards non-white men or women by white men or women. it's in the details, the tiny things that we have our priveleges, the small things we're afforded or what's overlooked or accepted...
YesThatCasey - 04/08/13 19:19
If this was about the title, “Privilege”, we would be having a much more productive discussion. But it isn’t. This is about white privilege, or white male privilege, or white straight male privilege, or white cisgender male privilege, and so on, which is just one of many indications of the problem that I wanted to address in my original point on the subject (which was inspired by Rita's comment to me).
Some initial questions for you or anyone that cares to join the discussion:
1) In what situations is stereotyping acceptable?
2) Following your groups approach to this systemic problem, how will we identify when (subset) privilege is no longer a problem?
3) Do you agree that there is a vast spectrum of privilege that being in a subset confers, when analyzing the individuals within that subset?
4) How do you measure and compare privilege between subsets?
If this was about the title, “Privilege”, we would be having a much more productive discussion. But it isn’t. This is about white privilege, or white male privilege, or white straight male privilege, or white cisgender male privilege, and so on, which is just one of many indications of the problem that I wanted to address in my original point on the subject (which was inspired by Rita's comment to me).
Some initial questions for you or anyone that cares to join the discussion:
1) In what situations is stereotyping acceptable?
2) Following your groups approach to this systemic problem, how will we identify when (subset) privilege is no longer a problem?
3) Do you agree that there is a vast spectrum of privilege that being in a subset confers, when analyzing the individuals within that subset?
4) How do you measure and compare privilege between subsets?
Robert - 04/07/13 14:22
Rita was also talking with Casey about privilege recently! ha... seems like these topics are in our consciousness lately!
Rita was also talking with Casey about privilege recently! ha... seems like these topics are in our consciousness lately!
I will admit I don't really like to dress up but love those red shoes guess if one gets those they have to get a red suit to go with ....