To change the 2 party system we need a persistent threat of "spoiling" and "stolen votes" not an occasional surprise candidate. The two parties should expect a Green candidate and a Libertarian candidate who mess up their pretty little duopoly, not the current "aww crap, Nader's running again". The only way the system will change is if it's in the Democrats and Republicans self interest to change it. A determined third-party can accomplish this, an individual can not.
So even though I may defend Nader's candidacy, he is a jerk for failing to inspire a third party to agitate the system in the long run. The Greens should run a candidate every year, and embrace the anger of Democrats, tell them if they don't like it, do something about it, because there are a lot of people out there who don't believe in either of the 2 parties. For example, 90% of the people who will read this. Carolinian, Jason, Josh, James, Jim, Terry, Metalpeter etc etc
About fixing the electoral system, (e:metalpeter) commented that we should have each state divide its electoral votes based on the percentage each candidate receives. Good idea, but it doesn't fix the Ralph Nader Spoiler problem though. If some third candidate goes through the election with 5%-20% of the vote from all the states combined, it's similar to "spoiling" Florida or Ohio except Nationwide. We could end up with neither of the two popular candidates receiving a majority of the vote (ie. winning with 44%), so we still don't know who the majority of Americans actually prefer. In order to find out who would have beaten all other candidates in a 2 way race, we would still need a runoff election, or IRV to figure out the majority candidate.
It does however make my vote count here in Blue NY, and it eliminates the "swing state" garbage. I'm pretty sure at least one state does it that way (can't find a reference source). I do like that Democratic Primaries are done this way, makes a lot of sense, but it still pushed Edwards out and gave us only two. (It's a start Sign a petition to support this

The solution I recommended is to have each state do their own Instant Runoff Election. Voters rank candidates so that even if there are more than 2, we can still find out who the majority of the voters in that state support. If you voted for Nader you also put down a second choice. if nobody gets 50% your second choice is counted and Nader's votes are reallocated. This should be done nationally but it would require a constitutional amendment. States could either give the majority winner all their electoral votes, but a better system would be to divide the votes by percentage after the runoff is complete.
Instant Runoff Voting explained

Healthcare - going to make this quick -
I'm starting to see a system like Social Security. The government guarantees some basic insurance, and it is paid for through a percentage of your taxes automatically. With Social Security you can still invest in additional retirement accounts, or if an employer is trying to compete for skilled workers by offering a hefty retirement account they can do that too.
Same with Universal Healthcare, you won't get screwed if you break your arm no matter what, you can go to the hospital and they will help you. You won't end up a cripple who can't work just cause you couldn't afford the hospital bill, and you tried to deal with it on your own. If you have money, or a good job, you may get some fancier service, but everyone is at least covered.
And it would be cheaper, because of less paperwork, and a more purchasing power. I paid $1000 in healthcare this year, you bet your uninsured ass my healthcare tax would be less than that.
Please spare me the criticisms of Social Security going bankrupt, etc. Those problems come from our lazy and corrupt politicians not following the rules. And I said "like" Social Security.
We need a new system, and yes it will include the private sector, no matter who calls it Socialized.
Peter, you're not alone in thinking Instant Runoff Voting is confusing. And thanks for admitting it :-). That's why every time I mention IRV I give a new description, I hope that by explaining it in different circumstances the idea might just click in one more persons head. You might want to watch the animation I linked to :::link::: Let's say Obama, Nader, Gore, and McCain are running for president. Gore Obama and Nader agree on most things, and their supporters probably would not vote for McCain right? But when the election comes around McCain gets 35% of the vote, and he wins, even though 65% of the country hate the guy. McCain does not have a majority of the country supporting him. A majority is 50% +1 no matter how many candidates there are. Check out the video to see how IRV solves this. Once you figure it out, you'll see why even Drew and his dad can agree it's a good idea.
Josh, I don't want to ignore Social Security, I just think the Hype is BS. Bush couldn't get us to agree on Social Security Reform (read 'Abolition') but he did succeed in getting many people to agree that it probably won't last much longer. For the FDR New Deal haters that's success. You're right that the longer we wait the more drastic the changes will be, but now minor reforms would fix it. Currently people only pay social security on the first $90,000 they earn, if you raised that cap to say $200,000 or eliminated it all together, you could fix Social Security. (Gasp! Raising Taxes) That brings me to my next point.
Even if my taxes are raised to pay for a new Healthcare program, my total _expenses_ will go down. Like I said, I paid $1000 for healthcare this year, and I'm positive the government could standardize the system and do it cheaper without losing quality. American Companies provide most of the Health Insurance in this country, imagine how much their expenses would go down. Why can Toyota sell a better car for less money than American Companies? Because they don't have to pay for Healthcare. Not only is it Humane and Morally right to provide Healthcare for everyone, it removes the burden from our companies, and that means they can compete better in the international marketplace. We have a $700 billion trade deficit, :::link::: that's why our standard of living has suffered, we need to bring money into the country, instead of consuming foreign lead paint toys.
Single payer Healthcare would help the country in more ways than one. By pooling our resources, distributing the risk, and cutting down on the waste that Insurance middlemen create, both citizens and corporations would end up saving money. Other countries may have tried to have their cake and eat it to, by keeping taxes level. If the government took better care of my money I wouldn't mind giving it to them for a good product. Instead they have been flushing it down $2,000 toilets built in Iraq under no-bid contracts. Government has failed in many ways, but the solution isn't as simple as taking our money away from them, We need better oversight, and we as citizens need to hold them accountable.
(e:Joshua) I had no idea they used that system in California, I now think it is great that they do. I would like them to use that in every state. I admit I don't get the runoff thing to me it doesn't make sense and is complicated what Happens If there are say 4 People and I Only pick one person cause he is the only one I like. The thing I like about the percentage thing is that it seems very fair. I don't think 51% makes a Majority even though that is how it is defined currently. I think the majority is 100/ the number of people running so if 5 people (to many I know ran) then you could win the Majority vote with (20% would tie everyone)21% Of the votes or at least the elctoral votes. I say that the person who gets the most votes should win and not use the current system but the powers that be will never get rid of it, so that is why I say you tweak as in California and have all the states do it. That way a 3rd party has a chance at winning. Not only that but currently votes don't count. Say it obama Vs. McCain say Obama takes New York by 2 Million votes that is that many votes minus one that don't mean jack shit. But if it was done on percentage and then every vote would count. That could be said for McCain also he might lose but at least his voters would get him some points. I think that would make votes more important and it would send people who don't vote out to the polls. I think it would do that for 3rd parties also cause if a third party guy is 3% behind in every state currently he would get zero nothing no points, but with what I suggest it would be a close race and with a couple big wins he would have a shot at winning the presadentcy.
I love your journal... you do think things through carefully and if I may pay a compliment its my favorite journal of the bunch.
Couldn't agree more. Our nation needs a change in mindset to make this happen. Many liberal Democrats freak out about Nader because they know what his role will eventually be - I see that view as incredibly undemocratic.
I don't know if Nader is even capable of inspiring a person, let alone a party. In my view Bloomberg would have even been more of an third adequate candidate than Nader. The man is dull. Even if I smoked an eighth I don't think I could find something amusing about him.
One observation is that no matter how much tinkering we do with the system, there is no way to erase close elections and how a third candidate can ruin it for somebody. The system Peter mentioned is already in place in the state of California.
The last Presidents to have gotten more than 50% of the popular vote -
GWB 2004 50.7%
GHWB 1988 53.4%
RR 1984 58.8%
RR 1980 50.7%
Carter 1976 50.1% (this was the closest election for 25 years)
Nixon 1972 60.7% (WOW! He won by 23%. BTW they call Obama the new McGovern, and I hate to say it but Nixon is more charismatic than McCain - should be interesting this year).
The only two Democratic presidents to have won with a majority vote in the past 44 years has been Carter and LBJ, and LBJ is the only one to have won in a landslide. He crushed Goldwater that year as Nixon crushed McGovern 8 years later.
You ignore Social Security at your own peril though David. The next President *will* have to address this, and as my brother has previously stated, taxes are about to go up for everybody, not just the rich... and this is before we ever discuss a national healthcare system.
As I've said to you previously I do not oppose a healthcare system. However I have to say this to you -
I still remain unconvinced that having the government manage this is a good idea. Take a look at how California and New York manage health care costs - I don't think it will likely be any different unless a radical set of changes and outlooks occur. Socialists in the UK (otherwise known as the Labour Party) are now examining the idea of cutting obese people out of the system. When costs spiral in these systems, as they inevitably do, the contradictions and problems with national healthcare become obvious. If a fatty gets cut off of the system, do they get to keep the tax money that goes into it? "Fat" chance. I'm not even mentioning the moral contradiction of a system set up for humane reasons only to do an incredibly inhumane thing.
I like social security too. I fear it won't be there for us. No President, Democrat or Republican, want to be the one responsible for raising taxes during a likely recession. By the time its over, its going to be too late without some incredible sacrifices that no American will find palatable yet will be forced to accept. Taxes are going up eventually though, and the middle class will not escape it!
I honestly feel very, very pessimistic about the next few years no matter who wins. We have a bunch of careerist milquetoasts in office.
The need for instant runoff voting is one of the few issues my Dad and I agree on. It's far past time.