[inlink]paul,1910[/inlink] I admit I don't look at pictures of prisoner abuse. I don't see the point, they are disturbing. I do belive that all the pictures are real. But when the pictures came out there where a lot of very upset people. It was a huge news story. But the reason the military and government guys where so angery was becuase of the pictures came out, not because of the abuse. Abuse like this has been going on by The CIA, and the Military for years. Tourture and humilation is how they get there information and how they hunt spies and terrorists. But pictures have never really leaked out and wound up on the news before. The pictures reflect the hipocrictical stance of the US. They say we don't tourture others they want the US people to think that we are the good guys and everyone else is evil. This is very true in biological weapons also. The US says one thing and then does the opposite. The US has been using terrorism and violance to inocent people in other countries for a long time. That is why so meny countries hate us. But if this information is out in the open then we the people start to question the government. I hope what I've said is clear. I'm not anti american at all. With it being september 11th we all need to remember what happend and form our own ideas of why. I think The US is responsible for what is has done overseas and the hate we have caused my have lead some people to fly planes into the towers in NY. Yes I understand that The Army has a tough Job, and that they are trying to show that this is what happens if you mess with us you lose it is not worth it to fight us, we will destroy you. But the problem is for everyone the Army kills they wind up causeing people over seas to get upset and some of those people will then become terorists. So the cycle continues. I admit I have no Idea how to stop the cycle my self, but i'm sure something can be done some day to stop it.

[inlink]paul,1907[/inlink] I'm using a libary computer. It has Widows professional not sure what year. It uses Internet explorer the one with that little blue e. I don't know the problem might be the libaries computer. I just clicked on me and maidencateyes names and our journals each came up for a second then the text disappeared and on the widow there is a journal but there is nothing there it is as if the text is gone. the screen is all green and everything else is there. It might not be the site because it only happend with two journals. I wish I had more info.

[size=xl]What is up with some of the entries colapsing. I know mine just colapsed and nothing was there and I think the same thing happens to maidencateyes. I clicked on her name it the enetrys came up then the window close and there where only side ways arrows no down arrows and no entries to read, verry strange. I hope everything is ok.[/size]

Not sure how long most people here have been elmwooders [if that is the right term], but I miss being a sord of true elmwooder. I define a elmwooder is someone who works, lives or counts elmwood as there home or their main hangout. Yes I do like elmwood but I can't afforid to live there nor do I work there anymore. I used to be a stock boy at Wilson Farms. I admit I did get very stressed and didn't have any money, but working on elmwood was fun. I worked with fun people. Does anyone remember when the guy would hang all those hand written signs on the house next to the store. I didn't get most of them they seemed political to me. But that was very interesting. I didn't go out as much as my friends at the store; I didn't have much money. Then when I got a second job I had money but had to get up early so I didn't go out much. But the times I did go out I did have fun. Plus I'm not much of a drinker. I don't like beer and that is what is always the cheepest and what bars like to discount. So the people I worked with went out a lot more then I did. But that time was a lot of fun. I didn't really fit in all the time but I still had fun being with friends. I just Remembered that blockbuster Video used to be a bells I belive and there used to be a post office Next to Coffee& if memory serves me right. But I also don't want to go back to not having money not like a have that much now. I try and walk elmwood everyday now, but that may change in winter. I'm trying to get more invovled, that may happen, the fact that I'm a procrastinantor dosn't help. Ok I will stop my rambiling hopefully it is somewhat cohearant.

[inlink]paul,1904[/inlink] That picture looks like it would fit right into Buffalo. Kinda looks like where the dress shop used to be near where they have the Allen Town Art Festival. I think it would be a cool idea to link togather some how. But for people who where not from either place it could be kinda confussing if they where observing or websearching for Elmwood or Buffalo. I hope I'm being clear expressing myself, some times I'm not clear.



[inlink]paul,1905[/inlink] School loans suck. I will be paying mine back for a long time. I belive if you are in school full time (12 credit hours I think) that you can defer them. Once you leave school you have six months untill you have to start paying them back. I was once thinking about allways going to school full time. Yes it would be expensive. But as long as you are a full time student You don't have to pay it back. If it was some place that you didn't need a loan to go to school then the loan would stay the same size. But when you take out more loans the Debt will grow and grow. But maybe it is possible to go to school for ones entire life. You could even Take breaks during the summer and work all year long. This Is a theory I came up with a couple years ago. I don't know if It would ever really work or not. It would at least make a good idea for a comedy movie. Someday someone may really try it. School loans suck and take time to pay off, plus they generally arn't able to be gotton ride of through bankruptcy. I have no Idea how to refinace them. I can't cobine my loans to reduce them or get a lower interest rate because they are all from the same company from what I uderstand, if i'm correct I wish you the best of luck.