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Journal 44769 by Heidi

06/24/08 16:19 - 68ºF - ID#44769Category: movingSubway?

So I just talked to a property management person and when I said I wanted to take public transportation to UB North, he said, "My guess is that you'll take it once or twice but you'll be so grossed out that you'll never take it again." Thoughts?

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zobar writes at 08:17:12 06/25/08 - Comment #36454

The public transportation in Buffalo is no more or less gross than MTA or NJ Transit, but it is significantly less convenient. It is ok for regularly-scheduled or well-planned trips, but routes are sparse in the suburbs and schedules are infrequent off-peak and on weekends. UB North, eg, is served by one NFTA route: 44 Lockport

- Z

leetee writes at 06:55:19 06/24/08 - Comment #36429

yeah, i'm with ya, Tiny...

to further that, i say that there does seem to be a snob factor and elitist attitude towards public transportation. not just here, but in a lot of places. other than giant cities like new york, chicago, paris, london... hell, even toronto.

gross? just hit toronto subways after a game with all the drunk jock guys pissing onto the tracks. or how about some seedy areas of london, where the blokes don't even bother to get off the train to piss. on a hot summer day, with at least 12 hours to go before maintence gets round to cleaning. now THAT'S gross!

heidi writes at 05:02:58 06/24/08 - Comment #36415

OMG I'm dying, Tiny! You're too funny...

I'm totally with ya on the attitude! I'm most familiar with the super-clean, tourist-friendly DC metro & metrobusses but how bad could Buffalo NFTA be??

tinypliny writes at 04:52:54 06/24/08 - Comment #36414

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!! COME ON!! (THIS IS IN CAPS, because I am frankly OUTRAGED!)

The tube is great. I am quoting myself verbatim from some other blog I posted on recently (because I am lazy and I should really not be stalking (

) at this time, but I am. :P):

Going with a flawed preconception that Buffalo's public transport is bad is the underlying reason why cars have become a "necessity". Have you ever lived in a place where there is no metro? (Hint: Neighbouring Rochester, for instance?) Compared to such a place, Buffalo's public transport is a dream! There is a train every 12 minutes or less. If you are not too much of a snob to share sitting spaces with some of the less-privileged, travelling in the metro is one of the most convenient things to do. I know people have told me in the past that it is unsafe. But after a year of living here, I have no evidence to substantiate this ominous sounding warning. I am close to attributing all this paranoia of attacks to a lack of common sense. Any public transport, even in the world's safest cities becomes unsafe, if you dress up to the nines, attract a lot of attention to yourself by being peculiarly a model representative of the wealthy or the privileged. You are in *public transport*. Behave and act like public, not the elite. It does NOT require a lot of effort, just some sense of surroundings. That being said, I use the metro quite regularly and I have seen a lot of suited-booted people in there. It's not the warzone it is made out to be. Not even close. Again, my definition of a warzone comes from a somewhat crazy city where I lived for 2 straight years. Plus, the buses here actually connect to all the most important places and in fact, most places of interest. If you live out in the boondocks suburbs and then complain about the lack of buses and public transport, then, you have the definition of public transport quite wrong. The "public" does not usually live in far off inaccessible suburbs.

jbeatty writes at 04:51:21 06/24/08 - Comment #36412

If you end up near allen street there is a UB stampede bus that runs free from allen medical station to UB south for students and I think employees.

There is a bus from south to north campus. Although it isn't the quickest or most convenient way to travel there, it is free.

jenks writes at 04:40:06 06/24/08 - Comment #36410

i haven't used public transportation (aside from cabs) ONCE since I moved here. I have the feeling the guy is right.

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06/09/08 17:15 - 85ºF - ID#44594Category: movingApartments in Buffalo

Wow. Y'all rock.

It looks like I should focus on the Utica Ave. metro stop (do you call it metro or subway or light rail or train?). I'm looking for a studio, 1 br or 2 br (if i can find a roommate) that will accept 1 small dog and 1 cat. I'm downsizing from a house, so I have lots of stuff but I also plan on getting a storage unit so stuff storage isn't very important. I will need one parking spot. I can start renting as early as 8/1 and as late as 8/15. I think my rent range is about 500-550, up to 650 with all utilities but that's stretching things. I've got tentative plans to visit Buffalo either 6/26 or 6/27 to check stuff out. Linwood looks like a great option.

I must admit, I'm used to my brand new kitchen, dishwasher and garbage disposal, washer & dryer on second floor next to my huge bedroom... but of course I'll be living on a student budget and expect to downscale considerably. Um... how do I provide references when I haven't rented in 10.5 years?

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libertad writes at 01:38:33 06/12/08 - Comment #35969

773-4246. It is advertised as a large one bedroom. I don't have any other details except it is on Norwood Ave and is very close to the Co-OP. Not sure it is the best place for you, but you may want to call for details.

chico writes at 09:41:26 06/11/08 - Comment #35936

(e:leetee) makes a good point. North Buffalo in the University Heights/UB South area is a distinct possibility and would probably be a little cheaper for rents, too. I think it's a little bit tricky for two reasons: (1) the neighborhoods change kinda quickly around there, so one block has beautifully maintained old owner-occupied homes and the next block has run-down rentals, and (2) I'm guessing that there's lots of crappy absentee landlords because of the off-campus student housing (though that's just a guess based on experience in other college towns).

Some advantages are: being close to a major supermarket (Tops) and a smaller supermaket (Aldi), a grungy but lovable vegan- and student-friendly luncheonette, a Walgreens, the Metro station (either for Metro rail heading downtown or for the UB shuttle to North campus), and a variety of restaurants and takeout joints.

Some disadvantages are: potentially loud neighbors (that you'd never know about till school is in); sketchy characters floating around Main Street (also true near Utica Station too); not being within walking distance of Elmwood (you'd have to drive or bike).

I suppose one important consideration is how often you'll be going to North campus and how often you'll be going to Elmwood. If it's like a 5:1 or 5:2 ratio each week, University Heights might be a good bet because it will make your UB commute that much easier and more efficient.

tinypliny writes at 12:22:58 06/10/08 - Comment #35894

Hey. :)

I live at the Mayflower (66 Summer) as (e:leetee) mentioned. I found it through craigslist (an excellent source, btw. They always have something available. If not at the Mayflower, maybe at their other buildings around the area. Check out their website and give them a call:

Rents are semi-reasonable - hovering around $600 and above (upto $850) for a studio/1BR (All utilities paid). The management is fairly decent. The flats are a hit or miss. The building as a whole is well-maintained, but depending on your luck you may or may not have:
a) a decent heating coil (mine punished me throughout the winter with erratic heating. I have chosen to carefully block that aspect out now that summer is here.)
b) hot water (my showerhead specializes in spouting out mostly lukewarm water. I am not sure I know what hot water is anymore.)
c) Light (My windows are south-facing and I live on the 5th floor so the lighting in my flat is a DREAM come true for someone who loves sunlight and natural light.) Some flats face brick walls of the adjacent building with crappy light, so beware. Check it out in person.

Check out my posts from last month. I went on a flat hunt and was somewhat successful but not quite... Let me know if you have any questions! Cheers and Good Luck!

leetee writes at 09:02:55 06/09/08 - Comment #35881

Belated Welcome to (e:Strip).

Wish i could help you more with the apartment hunt... the only experience we have is at the building (e:Tinypliny) lives in, since we lived there about a year or two before she did. Not sure if they allow pets.

If you have a car (you did mention needing a space, so i am assuming), Buffalo isn't a particularly big place, so the commute, even if it is in another part of the city, will not be very long. Not like a big metropolitan area where commuters spend an hour or more in traffic and/or on trains.

You might want to consider finding a place near UB South, too. Way less of a commute with their free South/North campus shuttle. Anyone else know anything about the neighbourhoods up there?

terry writes at 09:00:16 06/09/08 - Comment #35880

Have you looked into Artspace?

It's right on Main St. I think the closest subway stop is Summer/Best, though it's also not far from Utica. Their whole "thing" is atist loft + studio. Rents are supposed to be pretty decent. Check it out:

fellyconnelly writes at 06:11:45 06/09/08 - Comment #35875

esquared is nice... we are at 367 elmwood - and they are really nice here. if you have a problem, they really try to fix it for you. We pay 675 a month for a 1 bedroom - includes everything except electric. heat too! you sometimes lose hot water, but i find that everywhere.

pet friendly.

off street parking.

and if you get a place next door to us, our kitties can chat at eachother from the balconies!

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06/04/08 21:47 - 64ºF - ID#44547Category: movingChurches, bars, daycares and more...

e:drew asked if I work with nonprofits or churches... you betcha! I've started a nonprofit (was prez, currently treasurer), am secretary for another, and consult for several others. I've worked with all kinds of clients, from retail (QuickBooks Point of Sale, QuickBooks, web/ecommerce integration), bars, social clubs, churches, local Pennsylvania municipalities and quasi-governmental agencies, daycare/preschools, professionals, you get the picture... I'm a certified QuickBooks professional advisor, versions 2005-2008, although I've used every version since 2000 at one time or another. I've been doing web design (to various degrees of difficulty) since 1995, and computer and small network repair/troubleshooting and planning since 1998. I will need a crash course in NYS employment laws and sales tax to be as effective as I am here, but I'm sure that won't be hard to pick up.

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I currently share office space with a roofing contractor and a daycare/preschool owner. We also work on our nonprofit org from there. I wish I had an estrip.org type platform for my town! I'm just not sure how many people would write fairly consistently.

One of the joys of where I live is that I can walk to my neighborhood bar and the grocery store. My nonprofit is partly focused on revitalizing our downtown (like the Elmwood Village campaign but on a much smaller scale - our population is about 1500) and I really do value walkability. I lived in the DC suburbs from Silver Spring to Laurel and I don't want to have to drive everywhere again. I've got a bike (with basket for the puppy) but I've never ridden in a city.

e:imk2 asked why I'm moving to Buffalo... graduate school. I plan to show up 8/15. Uh... I guess I need to find housing before then... would you consider craigslist a good option for looking? the weekly housing section of the newspaper? or is it best to spend some time in Buffalo and look in person?

e:joshua - I'm in Tioga County *waves*

all - thanks so much for the warm welcome and advice!

My next question: Is there a practical public transportation option from Elmwood to UB North? Or should I look for carpools? Or just expect to drive?

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libertad writes at 06:51:49 06/05/08 - Comment #35778

Like (e:paul) says if you choose to live closer to Elmwood it will be a hassle to get to UB North. You would have to get a bus to Main street where the subway line is, then you would have to take the subway to S. Campus and then take the shuttle bus to North. I'm not sure how frequently you have to go but the more often the more you are going to get burnt out doing it. Linwood probably would be a great street for you. You have to check ads constantly on craigslist because the good ones go fast. Chico is right to check the artvoice late on Wed. Buffalo News was never a great source for me. I wish you best of luck. We definitely welcome you and I will keep my eye out for apartments for rent for you.

chico writes at 09:48:14 06/05/08 - Comment #35770

Hi! welcome to e-strip and to b-lo!

In response to "would you consider craigslist a good option for looking? the weekly housing section of the newspaper? or is it best to spend some time in Buffalo and look in person?"

Yes, yes, and yes. (e:tiburon1724) gives good advice. Artvoice is the newspaper to use; check online on Wednesday afternoons for the newest listings before many people see them in print (Thursday). If it were me, I wouldn't bother with the Buffalo News. Craigslist is pretty good; it's at its best when there are photos, and some people will send photos on request. Visiting is a big plus, even if you have a limited number of appointments you can make some on the fly and you can drive, bike, or walk around neighborhoods to get a feel for the place.

Finally, if you get a rough idea of where you want to be and how much space/amenities you need, post it on (

) or communicate directly with some of us. We might see signs go up in the local neighborhood and help you get phone numbers and leads for places that never get listed in the paper. There are good people here at (

) ... when I moved to B-lo in 2006, an ( estrip

per) helped me find my first apartment (thanks again David!)

Good luck and be in touch.

james writes at 11:34:36 06/04/08 - Comment #35761

welcome to estrip, UB, and Buffalo.

paul writes at 10:08:20 06/04/08 - Comment #35759

I made it from Linwood to north campus a lot. You probably would be best nearer to delaware or Linwood as the subway goes straight down main street to South campus and then their is a free bus to north campus. Plus you aren't very far from the strip when you want to be. As long as you can get to the subway you are fine.

tiburon1724 writes at 10:00:36 06/04/08 - Comment #35758

I'd definitely suggest coming up to look...schedule some appointments and come on up...and ask us about the neighborhood :) Buffalo, oddly, can be perfectly safe on one street and the next over be a ghetto, so it's tough. When I moved here about a year ago, I came up and checked out some places. I have to admit, I opted for an apartment in the suburbs because I knew them better and knew it would be safe. Now I've bought a house in the city so I guess I've atoned for my suburban sins. That being said, in my opinion you can find the best listings in Artvoice. Craigslist can be pretty good too. I found one listing on Craigslist that linked to a complete video tour of the apartment.

It's a good hike to UB North, it's north of the city. Really no viable highway route. I really hate that campus. UB South is at least in the city and more compact. Will you have any classes on South?

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06/04/08 12:12 - 66ºF - ID#44542Category: movingHello!!!

Hi! I'm Heidi, a new poster here at estrip... I've been reading the blogs here for about a month and love the glimpses into folks' lives in Buffalo.

I'll be moving in August, hopefully to the Elmwood area. Got any apartment suggestions for me? I've got two pets - Nisha, a quiet 1.5 year old toy poodle and China Cat Sunflower, a sweet fat lazy black cat. I'll be very sad to leave my elderly grey tiger cat Kitten (17-19 years old) but she needs the stability of our current housing situation and easy access to the outdoors. The closer to Lexington Market the better.

Currently I'm a geek for hire, specializing in QuickBooks and small business financial and IT consulting. I'd love to find an office to hang out in - I'm handy to have around and we can trade my services for space.

I'm so excited about moving! I lived in the DC/Baltimore area for nearly nine years, then moved "home" to northcentral Pennsylvania in 2003. I've missed good food and diversity the most. I'll miss the intergenerational long-term relationships from here...

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